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Hey /k/, so today is my birthday. I've got $1000 saved for gun purchases and I'd like to get myself something nice. What are some cool C&R or antique guns you guys would recommend?
Also C&R General
>>28667450
m1903
>$1000
Do you want like one or two nice military rifles or would you like a decent variety of stuff?
>>28667515
More guns is always better than one gun. Depends on what they are though
i've been thinking about getting a K31, even if it is a meme gune
>>28667583
That's what I've been thinking of too, but I heard GP11 is about dried up
>>28667563
What do you already have?
>>28667597
and exactly the reason for my hesitation, too
>>28667614
The rifles in the OP pic, along with 6 mosins and a star model B
>>28667450
Yeah, i just got a ton of scholarship money and need to spend some before i get audited. I want to start my collection but I am living in an apartment and only have a truck, so storage seems like a bit of an issue
>>28667622
OK, so you've already got a solid start in collecting. I think you need more semi-auto milsurp. Something like an M1 Garand, Swedish AG42, Egyptian Hakim, or an FN49.
>>28667450
Mas 49. Not the 49/56 (which is still cool but not nearly as sexy).
Or reloading equipment and a bunch of dies, because if you like shooting milsurp regularly you should reload.
>>28667667
I had a Hakim a while back but it wasn't really my cup of tea. May have been my fault but I kept getting stuff blown in my face from the DI system. What's a good price for an 8mm FN49?
>>28667667
How much do FN49s go for?
>>28667450
An M1A is always fun :D
>>28667691
Reloading equipment has definitely been on my mind lately but with school+work I've barely had enough time to shitpost on /k/ let alone reload
>>28667769
>Unreliable meme rifle
>>28667781
It takes a couple hours a week. Surely you can squeeze that in. Unless you don't like shooting much, which is perfectly fine.
>>28667922
What press would you recommend? I hear RCBS is nice, and some people have said to avoid Lee for some reason
>>28667450
contributing.
I'm planning on getting an M1 soon, what other C&R guns should I get?
How much do you have to pay for a high quality K98k in the U.S.?
>>28668078
german or something else?
How much does a real fuckin NATO MAS-36 usually go for?
>>28668107
German one from WW2, 1943 or earlier (qualitiy went down the drain in late 1944 and 1945)
>>28668078
Depends on what you mean by high quality.
You can pick up perfectly fine yugo captures for around $300
>>28667450
assuming the pic is of your collection, a k31, 1903, mas 36, 1917, krag, or fn/hakim
>>28668145
>Quality went down the drain
Not really. Besides a few changes in the stock the quality isn't much different from early war examples
>>28668145
assuming
>high quality
russian capture about $600-$800
no russian capture, reich marks only, a fuckload.
quality really didnt go down, only real difference is early war models had no sight hood, which i prefer.
>>28668153
>>28668224
>300-800$
>K98k
>mfw I realize I am from Germany and will never have a chance to own this rifle
>tfw I would happily pay 2 grands and more for it
>>28668340
you'd probably be thrown in jail for owning it based purely on the "dont do anything that even slightly resembles nazis" law
>>28668363
I dont think that would be the problem, since there are no NS insignias on it (wearing old medals is a problem indeed). But there are so many restrictions to owning the gun (not even using it) that it is virtually impossible to legally own it
>>28668398
There are definitely k98's with swatstikas and/or SS runes
>>28668431
Oh, I didnt knew that.. But its just another reason to ban it over here...
>>28668487
sorry freund.
>>28667450
i read the thread and it looks like you need another semi auto. someone suggested an m1 garand, but its a wayyyy over rated service rifle. its too heavy to want to carry it too long, its too long to weild effectively indoors, it recoils like hella (thats not an "owee it hurts" recoil thats a "holy shit this thing kicks too hard how can i double tap anything" recoil) its ammo capacity is weird and ineffecient, it can have trouble with modern ammunition (newer ammo is hotter and can cause excessive wear) and when youre done shooting its a pain in the ass to have to look around in the grass for your clip
go get an m1 carbine, it did everything the plastic and alumium of the m16 was supposed to do but with good old walnut and steel.
>tl;dr m1 carbine
>>28667983
I have the RCBS Rok Chucked and it's great for the volume I use. Great to learn on and even if you upgrade to a progressive press you can still keep it for your smaller volume calibers.
I don't have a Lee or any experience with one, but I've not heard any negatives about them.
>>28668957
Rock Chucker you fucking stupid machine.
>>28668145
I got mine for $650. Probably a bit high, but the important numbers matched and it was SS stamped. I was honestly paying for the lightning bolt.
>>28668814
>too heavy
>too long
>bad recoil
>hating the M1 Garand this much
Either you were raped by an M1 Garand when you were younger or you're just a bitch
Does it have to be C&R long guns?
Bless the based historian who got the BATFE to declare these C&R.
>>28669404
do want
>>28667662
>Yeah, i just got a ton of scholarship money and need to spend some before i get audited
Huh?
>>28669662
Interesting, what does C&R mean specifically? I've just spent a bit reading about it, but what exactly does it entail? I've only been able to get that normal rules don't apply, but I haven't been able to find a list of the rules that DO apply.
Unsurprisingly, the ATF's website was of little help.
>>28670542
>apply for C&R
>costs $30
>basically just do a lot of paperwork
>get guns shipped to your doorstep
To be recognized as C&R items, 478.11 specifies that firearms must fall within one of the following categories:
Firearms which were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas of such firearms;
Firearms which are certified by the curator of a municipal, State, or Federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest; and
Any other firearms which derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or because of their association with some historical figure, period, or event.
>>28668132
Trash
So I walked out of a gun show with a M1917 Enfield for $550. How'd I do?
>>28670576
>Any other firearms which derive...
This is the main part that didn't seem to be clarified, i.e. what is "substantial" and fucking everything is associated with a historical period, etc.
I assume this is one of those things that was written in as a loophole for someone with lots of cash that doesn't apply to us poor folk, but seriously, the wording of this law basically allows literally everything.
>>28670642
its one of the three categories listed. pretty sure the most important is 50 years or older and youre good to go, there is a lsit of all the C&R eligible guns too IIRC
>>28670634
post pics then we'll assess
swiss contract Luger
>>28667996
Werent those two M39s for sale down in CO springs for $350 for the pair?
>>28667515
Is that a Spanish Mauser?
>>28668957
I recently went with Dillon 650 because of the volume I shoot in competition. Before that I used Lee turret press and it worked fine.
>>28669662
>mfw he's right
What the actual fuck, man? I mean, I knew the ATF was a lawless organization, but I thought they were at least consistent in oppressing people.
Need to update this got another mosin. Will probably do it tomorrow. I love these guns.
>>28669476
Anon, I hate to inform you but it's probably fake
It's not c&r presay but I saw some Mk II and Mk III Hi-Powers pistols on aimsurplus for around 435-495ish.
>>28670576
>>basically just do a lot of paperwork
Hearty kek bruh. It was like 2 pieces of paperwork, the most work being the drive to the police station to get the Chief's signature on the form.
>>28670576
>Section 1
Old Armalite models will soon be available.
>>28676531
to some people its a lot, but yeah its basically just a longer 4473
>>28677781
watch the ATF not make them C&R eligible because
>muh scary black rifles
>>28674452
Czechoslovakian/Turkish Vz.98/22.
>>28676531
Why do you need police approval? Is that a state law? Fed regs say: inform your chief LEO, so I wrote a letter to Sheriff.
>>28678535
Yeah all you legally need is to notify them.
