This will serve as an unboxing and table top review thread for the Girsan 1911 tactical. Model MC1911S.
I promised to review it when I put it on layaway in December so hopefully I can keep the thread alive long enough for people to find interest.
General information
>M1911A1 copy made in Turkey by Girsan
>Chambered in .45acp with a 5" barrel
>Single action only (Duh) with an aluminum trigger that I measured at 5.5lbs
>Uses standard 1911 magazines, ships with a single 8 round magazine made by ACT-MAG in Italy
Manufacturer website.
>http://www.girsan.com.tr/en/mc-1911-s
>>28636224
What's in the box?!
>>28636224
Congratulations, how does it feel to...-up your duq!
>>28636234
Who gets the box?!
>>28636240
Dude... Were you just fucking waiting for me to post this thread?
>>28636224
Initial view of the case and contents.
>>28636252
I was munching on dinner watching YouTube. Then decided to check the catalog after finishing with both. Just happened to have been there when it got started.
>>28636252
Here's what you get.
>Pistol
>One 8 round magazine
>Set of (Rubber tipped, nice touch) cleaning brushes
>Patch rod (Plastic, flexible but not bad)
>Bottle of some shitty oil
>One fired cartridge
>Manual in turkshit and English
>>28636251
How much is what's in the box worth?!
>>28636272
Oh, good timing
>>28636289
Contents out of the case. I really like the rubber tipped cleaning rods, nice touch. I'll never use them but it's a good starter kit for people that are buying their first pistol.
>>28636289
>Manual in turkshit
it's telling other kebab to commit to jihad on the rest of the world.
Are these Turkshit 1911s any good? Or at least on par with Rock Island?
>>28636302
If you're going to spam my thread with quotes from the Major please use images.
>>28636316
Alright let's just get to it, disassembly.
>Full length guide rod
>Standard bushing
>Crazy reflective barrel
>Very nice Novak style sights, for the price I am blown away
A note from disassembly, the frame/slide fit is fucking ridiculous. Makes almost no noise when you shake it, no movement when you grip the slide and fame in opposite hands. Very tight, but the slide still slid off like silk.
>>28636302
hehe, storage wars.
>>28636397
I was only the last three.
>>28636320
We may never know. But I have a feeling the spirit of JMB would not allow it.
>>28636364
This one is actually moles ahead of the RIA pistols I have held and fired.
>>28636397
We're getting into the close up shots now, I'm happy with the finish on the gun, feels tough and looks good.
their M9 copies were solid so I suspect these would be decent at least.
>>28636418
>Inside of slide
Note the lack of fucked up tool marks and general shit you expect from a budget 1911
>That's a shiny spot from oil, not chipped finish
>>28636443
Solid is a good word for this gun, feels like one block of steel in the hand.
>I think I could pistol whip a horse to death with this thing.
>>28636450
Continuing the tour.
>>28636479
>Back of grip
At this point you should have noticed something is off about the dimensions. I'll address it in the next post.
>>28636525
>The grips
They are fucking HUGE, it's my only complaint about these pistols, the grips that ship with them are fat as an 11b's wife.
>>28636552
We will talk about the grips later, there is another problem with them because fucking Turkshits
>Bore from clamber end
Sorry for the potato picture, but this is the barrel.
>>28636579
ooooh shiny.
>>28636579
Anybody ITT or am I talking to myself?
>Sights
The sights are flat black Novak style and sit nice and high on the gun. I have no trouble picking them up in good lighting conditions and while I'd put a fiber optic or Tritium front sight on for CC these will do excellent for the range.
>Note: The front sight appears thicker than this when held at arms length.
>>28636642
You'll probably get more going when you hit the range.
>>28636642
Guess it's just me and other Barry.
>Sights on something other than a flat surface
For the rice I paid this is really great, fuck RIA in the as this should be THE go-to poorfag 1911
>>28636704
Should have started off with how much I paid. Saving it for the last post.
>>28636705
>Magazine
seems like a good mag, no issues locking open when screwing around dry fire. Drop free and shoots up about an inch from the mag well when you hold the gun upside down and depress the mag release (Both locked open and slide forward)
>>28636752
>Follower
>>28636768
Now, about those grips. Fuck those grips.
Lurkin'.
>>28636834
But, there is a problem. The fucking Girsan 1911 line does not use standard 1911 grip screws.
There are four possible solutions to this problem so you can use after market grips
>Have a gunsmith remove the stock bushings and tap the frame for GI bushings
>Buy a matching set of four metric hex head screws that fit the stock bushings, you can do it but you won't have the GI look. It's pure aesthetics.
>Reduce the head size of the stock screws so they fit aftermarket grips (Cheapest option if you want wood grips) they are the right height just too wide for GI grips
>The fourth option is what I went with, just get a set of Houge rubber grips, the rubber allows the over sized screw heads to squeeze down and sit flush, they also hold the grips on tight as hell
Now, if you choose to make the grip screws narrow enough for standard grips the best way to do it us chuck them in a drill or dremel and use a file and sand paper to size them down evenly. Take a little at a time and check for fit often.
>Pic related
>>28636838
Good to know, thanks. Just wait until I tell you how much I paid.
>>28636925
>With the new grips
Just bought the cheapest grips I could at Cabelas, $10 Houge black rubber replacements.
The grip screws slipped right into place and are comfortable.
>>28636981
>Other side
The thing I like most about the appearance over RIA 1911's is the lack of logos.
>>28636479
Whats up with this hole first time ive seen any 1911 with it
>>28636996
my old RIA had the mini logo.
>>28636981
>>28636996
I really like the look now. I was just going for "Quick and cheap" but I'm warming up to it quite a bit. Maybe I'm just a pleb.
>>28636224
>made in Turkey
Terrorist supporter
>>28636752
act mags are considered shit and the exact same mags that ship with rias
>>28637026
I was about to buy the Canik TP9V2 but then I found out how big of cunts the Turks are and decided against it.
>>28637056
>but then I found out how big of cunts the Turks are and decided against it.
tell me who in this world aren't being cunts in one form or another. Hell, our government are cunts themselves.
>>28637015
You put oil through there which coats the FCG, and main spring strut.
>>28637047
I can confirm. the ACT mag that came with my RIA won't feed hollowpoints reliably. Consider as range mag only.
>>28637072
They're fucking ISIS.
>>28637075
Does it say that in the manual?
>>28637026
Suck a dick it was cheap. I'd buy it again just to fund shooting down Russians.
>>28637047
Thanks for the heads up, we'll find out on the range (This will be a three part review)
>>28637022
Yeah I've seen those, huge improvement IMO
>>28637023
New grip dimensions.
>>28637095
Wait, I thought they fuck goats over there?
>inb4 Milsurpdude
>>28637124
Dude, don't fucking summon that shit into my thread.
>>28637120
Everything fits in the box nice and comfy.
>>28637091
but they're from Italy, you're saying that the spaghetti niggers messed that one up?
>>28637015
Do the turks make a model with a schwartz safety?
>>28637137
With this particularly mag, yes.
I've owned 2 RIAs and both of the ACT mags have problems with hollowpoints.
They feed 230 ball just fine.
>>28637194
the RIA mag that I had with mine was a Metalform mag. That one sperged out on my friend when he was loading it.
>>28636705
i'm here and interested.
how much?
>>28637274
$452
Not OP but I'm pretty sure Bud's is the only place that sells them and that's their price
>>28637245
Cool, here is the last bit of info, please ask any questions you have.
>>28637134
Surprise! I bought two.
This is going to be an experiment, I want to really work these guns out and let /k/ know how good/bad they are. They might be rock stars, they might be heaps of shit, I'm spending my money and taking the risk for you.
Here is how it will work.
>One pistol will remain stock for the course of testing
>One pistol will be given cost effective upgrades that are focused on improving reliability and shootability while keeping the over all price as low as possible.
The work to be done is as follows.
>Polish feed ramp barrel and frame with dremel polishing kit (Free, I own the tools already)
>Replace all springs in the gun with Wilson Combat springs, including an 18.5lb recoil spring ($15, I have them already)
>Polish the contact points on the trigger and other internal components for improved trigger pull and reduced chance of ice/frost having something to hang on to and choke the gun (I live in Alaska)
>>28637325
>>28637274
Total cost (As promised)
>MC1911S
$350 each
>Shipping
$25 for both guns
>Transfer fee
$40
>Total
$765, or $382.50 each gun out the door.
>Wilson combat spring kit
$15 each
>Houge grips
$10 each
>Grand total for black tactical beginners 1911 with reliability and action improvement and new grips
$407.50
>>28637383
Shit nigger, where'd you get a railed Girsan for $350?
>>28637383
thanks, family. i look forward to seeing more of these roach guns.
>>28637425
Sorry to burst the bubble, it was a Christmas sale, they're $400 now.
>>28637441
No problem, I can't wait to get them to the range and test the fuck out of them. I'll also be getting some WC mags to see if they run better with them.
So far I fucking love this thing.
>>28637471
Well shit. Still, where from? Bud's price says $452 now.
>>28637471
>be getting some WC mags to see if they run bet
WC mags will never fail you. you don't even have to put them in a 1911.
>>28637490
Only one in stock BUY BUY BUY!!!!
>https://www.pistolandpawn.com/wp/product/girsan-1911-1-mag/
>>28637383
you should start a youtube channel for yourself. You speak well, and you are very detail oriented.
Also, this is the spring kit I'm using. Have not installed the springs yet.
>http://www.midwayusa.com/product/207411/wilson-combat-complete-spring-set-1911-government
>Current trigger pull before polishing and new springs
>5.5lbs
Hoping to drop that by 1.5lbs with new springs and some elbow grease.
>>28637571
THIS
>>28637609
>>28637571
Er... Thanks, I'm flattered, but I really don't have the time or the money. And I don't even know what I'd do that everyone else isn't already covering.
Seeing this thread and holding my demo 1911 makes me really wish I had one :(
>>28637597
wait, you're going to be using wenis grease?
>>28637630
Hell man, you don't need to post regularly and it doesn't cost much if you use basic cameras
and good lighting. I would sub asap.
>>28637633
The best kind.
>>28637631
Go get one?
>>28637646
It would mostly be me tinkering with my 80% AR's/AK's and shooting pistols at 100+yds
I might set one up, if I do I'll make a thread on /k/ or it will be part of the third update to the Girsan saga and I'll just call it poorfag gunsmithing.
>>28637676
You'll be the Flandre of Alaska. Also, I'm hoping that this doesn't happen to your 1911.
>>28637676
Dude your channel would be amazing... you should contact me outside of /k/ when you set it up!
Also, I would get a 1911 but I am currently poor
>>28637676
Does anyone have any other questions or comments? Anything they want to know about the guns that I can put into my review or comment on right now since I have the guns in hand? Any pictures of parts you want? I'd ask now since I'm going to work soon.
>>28637737
Gimme dem digits... or email or kik or something
>>28637737
You're going to need to start tripping once you gain some popularity.
>>28637726
>Flandre of Alaska
I'd have to shit out a Groza copy for that to be a valid assessment.
And what the fuck happened?
>>28637733
Can't beat $400 man. The place I linked has a layaway program. (Although I would wait for me to beat up on mine first so you know about any issues that crop up)
Pic related is my 80% build collection so far. The AK's are a little beat up because I was learning on them and trying new things and I abuse my guns a lot.
>>28637749
[email protected]
>>28637812
the plunger tube took a shit and needed to be (re)staked by the factory.
>>28637812
you know, you could see about getting a business loan to get you started on a gunsmithing business.
>>28637383
Do they make a GI model?
I was looking at the TISAS, but it has a lawyer mark.
>>28637812
Thats a long ass email... okay
>also
Nice rifles!
>>28637866
They do, in fact, make a GI model. Complete with shitty sights and all.
>>28637865
Never going to happen, I live in AK and the market is saturated.
>>28637847
That happened to my friends RIA 1911.
>>28637887
It's my non-work email, my professional email in my full name so it never sees the light of day around here.
Thanks, the 20" AR triggers the fuck out of MilsurpDude and I love it. Both the AR15's are built on raw 80% receivers using the EasyJig and finished with GunKote.
Built them from the ground up not with complete uppers (Not that it's hard)
>>28637901
I was replying to you asking me what happened to my 1911. Perhaps I should trip again just so you could keep track.
>>28637901
>Complete with shitty sights and all.
Yeah, I know, but I wont be shooting anything at more than like 30 feet. I have other pistols for that.
I just really want a WWII/Korea/'Nam style 1911.
Not saying there's anything necessarily wrong with modified variants, I acknowledge they're more practical, but they just don't do it for me.
>>28637926
Yeah man... That pistol AR with the short retro forend is damn sexy.
>>28637939
Do eet.
>>28637943
Totally understand, GI 1911's are sexy.
>>28637969
I love that gun, I was going to go in a CAR15 607A direction with it but I don't have access to the tools to build the stock correctly. So I put a flat top rail on it and a bungee sling.
This is my full collection minus the 1911's
>>28638050
Oh, I know. But there are so many other guns out there I need first.
>>28638018
You need a USP .40 Elite
>>28638018
3rd down on the left?
>>28638018
I completely forgot you had your model 8.
>>28638085
Remington Model 8 chambered in .35 Remington.
>3rd year of production
>Great shape
>Joy to shoot
Pro tip, they are clip fed guns, and Springfield M1A 7.62x51 stripper clips fit the .35Rem model.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsQXksP-YhI
>>28638114
Damn... I could have bought one of these for $700
>>28638114
How is .35 Rem as a cartridge?
>>28638114
You know, I'm thoroughly amused at how lazily your Model 8 ejects your rounds.
>>28638145
Different anon, have the same gun and a 336 chambered in 35 rem.
Ammo is not easy to find
It is easy to reload, very versatile.
It is a fun to shoot, chunky little cartridge designed to fell any game one might encounter in North America. At ranges less than 150yrds, it preforms very well.
>>28638145
God's very own deer round. When the Model 8 was first put on the market (110 years ago, mine is 107 years old) they were called the "One Ton Gun" because they had chamberings packing 2000ft/lbs of muzzle energy. They were primarily dangerous game pack rifles because you could dump 5 rounds of fuck you on a bear as fast as you could pull the trigger.
Modern .35 Rem is even more powerful.
>>28638143
I got mine for $400
>>28637137
It's Italy anon. In Italy things are either amazing or shit when it comes to engineering. There is no in-between.
>>28638193
Also, every single Model 8 and 81 ever made is a takedown rifle. Cool as hell.
>>28638178
Top ejecting glory. Helps me save brass
>>28638186
It really is a great round, shame it's so hard to find components.
>>28638193
Thank you for the poster anon
>>28638232
I enjoy it immensely.
The only component I have any problem with is brass. Nearly every 357 mag bullet is a 35rem bullet waiting to happen.
>>28638232
We have liftoff
>>28636705
>MFW fence is talking to me
>>28638284
Go look into them, coolest guns ever. Bonnie and Clyde got shredded by one with extendo mags.
>>28638275
I need to hunt down some Unique+.357 mag 158gr plinking recipes.
>>28638268
No problem, I love sharing that stuff. (Wow, my Girsan 1911 thread went another direction entirely)
>>28638320
I just made some plinkers today out of 160gr solid lead scroggins and 30grs of H4895.
And good luck trying to find Unique. I have not seen any for sometime in stores, which sucks, because I need it for 7.62 nagant loads.
>>28638351
>TFW I got two pounds on Unique in front of me.
That's cool, I'll have to look more into loads for it.
Can you post a pic of the girsan next to another common handgun for size comparison?
>>28638399
Sure, give me a minute.
You want them by the Makarov, Sig P228, CZ, or the Shield?
>>28638428
228 please
>>28636364
Better.
/k/ is just full of RIA fanboys, but indeed Girsan and Tisas are just as good if not better. And often cheaper.
>>28638450
Here you go
>>28638548
Well, we're going to find out. I think after I tinker with these ones a bit they will blow any GI model RIA out of the water.
>>28638591
>>28638450
I took a couple other pictures since I had the guns out anyway.
>>28638618
>>28638591
>>28638623
SIG makes fuck huge guns.
>>28638662
Seriously, even the trigger is fat.
>>28638320
>That pic
What a fucking gangster
>>28636289
>>One fired cartridge
So the ballistics for that fired round are on record somewhere.
>>28639583
What? No. That's not how that works at all.
>>28639773
Tell him how it works then.
>>28639919
>>28639583
The casing is just from the function test, it's invluded so places like CA can retain it in the police choose to, but it being in the case means nothing
>>28639953
>but it being in the case means nothing
But it means everything, without the case you can't have the bullet.
>>28640079
Point.
Thread has ded. Not a ton of interest in $350 1911 I guess.
>>28640185
personally I wouldn't mind getting a S&W 1911 here sometime in the future.
>>28640221
Bet the $350 turkshit 1911 out preforms it.
>>28636224
>UPDATE
I think I figured out why the grips are so thick.
They used a very poor quality of wood with crumbly porous veins running through it. It's stabilized with about a gallon of lacquer each side, and between that and the sheer thickness they're not going to break, but making GI thickness grips from this stuff would cause cracking. The over sized grip screws is likely another way yo distribute force to avoid cracking.
Honestly, I get the wood grips on the GI model. But they should have shipped the tactical with synthetic grips over these.
>Not going to cry over a $350 1911 though.
>>28640459
Does anyone know if getting decent quality wood is difficult in Turkey? Why would they use this shit?
Sent an email btw :)
>>28640496
>Does anyone know if getting decent quality wood is difficult in Turkey? Why would they use this shit?
To make it cheap?
>>28641031
Well yeah, but you'd think using twice as much wood and lacquer to keep them from breaking would be offset by just using good wood.
>>28640301
Don't care, free market.
>>28641532
Go to work you.
BTW, doing trigger job on 1911 tonight
>>28641615
But I am at work, also how long do you think it'll take for you to do your trigger job?
>>28641911
Couple hours, why?
>1911 get
Noice
>>28641925
>couple hours
Eh, I don't think I'd be willing to do that, I'm too lazy.
>>28641925
You know, I wonder r if you could use the frame of a retro and put the Pre B slide on it. It'd be cool if you could.
>>28636224
>UPDATE
Just finished polishing the fed ramp and internals. Dropped the trigger pull by 1/2 a pound and I can now chamber a spent casing with the slide release.
>MFW it chambered
>>28644142
Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tjV-xtCWKU
Picture related, quick and low res picture of the polishing job. I dare a hollow point to FTF in this gun.
>>28645102
>I dare a hollow point to FTF in this gun.
If it was 9mm it might.
>>28645226
Good thing it's not an abomination.
Seriously though, I'm impressed. This is pretty cool. I have even been riding the slide forward with my hand and can't get it to FTF with an empty case.
Also, one of the cheeky fucks ITT bough the last Girsan from the website I linked.
>>28645282
I still would get a S&W 1911, whenever that happens.
>>28645549
Going to do any work on it?
>>28645549
BUY THIS! BUY IT NOW!
>http://alaskaslist.com/1/posts/9_General/63_Guns_Hunting/432939_Springfield_1911_A1_45_ACP.html
>>28645587
Leave it in its good 'ol glorious stock American design.
>>28645662
No, I want a S&W 1911. Or a Cz 1911
>>28645690
Dude. You have absolutely no taste.
I'm checking out for a bit. Buy the fucking Springfield, it's sexy.
>>28645758
No, and I don't give a shit on your idea taste.
>>28645758
>check link
>that middle pic
I didn't know they made 1911s in .38 Special....how bizarre.
>>28646006
Yeah, wadcutters only, for bullseye shooting.
>>28646405
Oh yeah, I think you mentioned something like that before.
