So HMG has actually now built some Sturmgewehrs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwdNPQxL04E
>>28611543
Never going to understand why people like a shitty meme rifle
>>28611569
Wehraboo's
>>28611569
Cause they're cool. If you relegate a historically significant weapon to "Meme" status then I don't think you are actually interested in firearms.
>>28611569
Being the first ever assault rifle
YEA IT'S KINDA IMPORTANT
>>28611641
>first ever assault rifle
There were multiple automatic individual weapons chambered in intermediate calibers before the StG44. It's only relevant because it was the first mass produced assault rifle.
Was there ever a mention of a price point for these things?
>>28611543
MY
F U C K I N G
D I C K
I
C
K
>>28611705
$1800
>>28611569
for me its because of the rebel alliance
>>28611712
That's actually not that terrible
>>28611705
1700
>>28611722
I know right? I was expecting these things to exceed $4000 easy.
>>28611543
neckbeards talking about a shit ak copy what's the problem here?
>>28611569
>haven't fired the shitty rifle
>haven't fielded or tested the shitty rifle
>don't know the durability or effectiveness of the shitty rifle
>don't know anything about it
>call it shifty regardless
Riiiiight...
>>28611569
because even modern militaries that dont know the weapons history ask if they can be equipped with them instead of their AKs
>>28611543
Woooooh Weee!
>>28611803
no problem friend
:^)
>>28611821
No, they don't.
>>28611803
Come on anon. It's a waste of time and money but it has far more in common with a CETME or G3.
>>28611713
THIS.
ALLIANCE STRONK.
>already have my ATACS-FG Poncho
>A280 when
>>28611569
>>28611590
People being interested in the first rifle of its class.
>wehraboo
Yeah they couldn't possibly just respect Schmeisser's design for what it is.
>>28611698
If it wasn't mass-produced, it might as well be a prototype. If it's a prototype, it doesn't count.
>>28611985
>No, they don't.
watch a few other videos about the HMG STG
>>28612198
>they couldn't possibly just respect Schmeisser's design for what it is
literal shit?
>>28611822
The wood looks kinda shitty but atleast its new. If it was $1500 it would be an instabuy for me.
>>28611543
Question is,
This gun (stg44 clone) or Galil Ace?
>>28612569
Thought the same thing. To be fair most you see are old war relics so it's probably tainting our perception. That said, if I get one, the first thing I'll do is refinish the wood darker and make it look old.
>>28612671
A dark wood finish would be great. Also, I can't wait to puke when I see the first cerakoted STG's coming out
*insert puking loli*
>>28611543
Who cares? I want them to make more CETME Model Ls!
>>28611569
>>28611590
>Interesting rifle that isn't another AR-15 or 7.62 AKM
>ONLY NAZIS COULD LIKE THIS WEAPON!
You faggots are as insufferable the brady campaign faggots calling all gun owners rednecks. Guess Ian is a now a /pol/ Nazi for owning a semi auto FG-42 and showing interest in this reproduction weapon.
>>28611822
>doesnt ship to maryland
*cuts wrists*
>>28612837
Move to VA/PA/etc. My dad and I live in PA and he works in Maryland. No excuse
>>28612848
I cant afford it mane :/
>>28612870
Southern VA is cheap
>>28612872
hows the job market?
>>28612904
Depends on what field you're in.
>>28612929
High school diploma, I can learn pretty much anything if you're wiling to train me
>>28612939
I'd recommend going to a trade school
No matter where you live, someone is gonna need their acģplumbing/car fixed
>>28611543
Holy shit Ian and Karl are so adorably hyped. Fuck that's cute.
>>28611543
>had a chance to shoot a real STG in Budapest but didn't have the cash on hand
sadness consumes me as I watch this video
>>28613014
Go to battlefield vegas
>>28611543
AHA YES
IANPOSTING
>>28611569
>meme anything
strong smell of underage emanating from this post, opinion swiftly discarded
>>28611543
>most people are getting it in x39
What the fuck kameraden?
Isn't .300blk more powerful than x39 on the high side? And stanag mag commonality is awesome.
What kind of x39 mags does that config use, besides the historical repo mag? I'm guessing NOT ak mags.
>>28613126
>Isn't .300blk more powerful than x39 on the high side?
If you're comparing hot handloaded .300 BLK to factory Wolf 7.62x39, yes
otherwise not so much
>>28611543
>HK trigger pack
My fucking dick, yes. I forgot they planned to do that.
God damn son.
>>28613187
Well, what is the objective difference between the two?
>>28613212
X39 is (factory) cheaper, easier to find and really there's not much diffrence in wounds.
>>28613212
one goes in normal AR mags
>>28613212
Both are similar ballistically but the reloading components for .30O are easier to get. And >>28613241
>>28613237
Why were they saying the x39 rifle will kick more, were they not accounting for the .300blk?
>>28613271
I think they were comparing the original caliber to x39. Maybe they did over look the .300blk out.
>>28611543
Hnnnnnnng
>>28611569
This is a board mostly populated by people in animal costumes fucking each other's asses with FALs and you feel the need to suggest there's something objectionable about wanting an STG?
>>28613271
They said the most popular caliber will probably be x39 and due to the increased weight of the gun and the increased kick of x39 it would provide a more authentic feel. I'd imagine the 300 would be the sameish.
>>28613348
I want to see the totally tacticooled folding stock, sbr, acog variant looks; especially with a stanag mag.
>>28613367
No skin off my back seeing that but I would question why anyone would do that when AKs and variants are cheaper/ have aftermarket.
Is there something the STG does better?>>28613367
>>28613404
>Is there something the STG does better?
Only one thing really, everything.
>>28611569
Why are you even here?
>>28611543
>Tfw Canadian, so it'll be many many years before the RCMP even bother to look at it
>They're just going to go LOLNOPE and ban it
i like how they're acting like little kids.
>>28613688
>tfw guns have become boring to me
>sold off my guns so I only have two Glocks , a mid range AR a Mossberg 500A
>last machine gun shoot I've been to was boring and expensive
How do I reclaim the joy?
>>28613688
>I hate fun
>>28613843
i wasn't being sarcastic
>>28613667
dude its obviously an AK variant :^)
t. RCMP weapons wiz
Any opinions on new production m1 carbines? They will retail for $1,100
>>28613333
>>28613761
Vacation to Britain and try to buy a butter knife.
>>28613899
>new production
>$1100
Why
>>28613899
>Any opinions on new production m1 carbines?
Why?
Chiappa makes one in a more available caliber.
http://www.chiappafirearms.com/products/171
>>28613899
i'd personally rather a military or police m1 carbine, which can be had for cheaper even.
some people want new production and warranty though.
>>28613899
What are the specs and if you say MIM I swear to god I will do nothing and be kind of upset.
>>28613944
It's a blowback design with more in common with a HiPoint carbine than a M1 and ontop of that are notoriously shit and poorly made.
>>28613944
And with rather poor reviews as well.
>>28613986
>It's a blowback design with more in common with a HiPoint carbine than a M1 and ontop of that are notoriously shit and poorly made.
>I buy an M1 for the gas system
/k/ can be so fickle.
>>28613999
maybe he buys m1s for quality
>>28613999
Check'd and I am not a fan of the Garand action for reliability though I think it's very neat and appreciate it's place in history but if you manage to make a fucking blowback unreliable there is something wrong with you.
Also:
>/k/ is one person
I FUCKING LOVE AMERICA FUCK YA!
>>28613950
Where? All the milsurp m1 carbines I've seen have been upward of $900
>>28613993
>And with rather poor reviews as well.
>>28614031
>maybe he buys m1s for quality
Which is hard to find among M1 repros anyway.
>>28614032
>but if you manage to make a fucking blowback unreliable there is something wrong with you.
It looks like Chiappa went with having a fuckhuge bolt and really strong return spring making it way too strong of an action for 9mm. I'm sure it would function better if you ground the bolt mass a little and put some mildly lighter return springs in there.
It's also appreciable that it uses M92 magazines instead of some proprietary shit.
Meh, its nice and all, but im still jealous of the cancuks. They have norinco surplus, and $150 sks rifles as far as the eye can see.
>>28614078
There are a lot of neat ideas that went into it but it honestly would have done a better job if it just tried being it's own rifle like a modern Camp 9.
>>28611698
the federov is not a salt rifle, if that is what you are implying.
>>28611543
I knew they were going to pull through with the project, I'm honestly more impressed with how short of a time frame it was from prototype to production
What I will be REALLY impressed with is if they make a STANAG x39 mag that isn't shit.
>>28614054
I've some in the 800 range, though not in the best condition. Thai police M1s, which are made by howa and are good quality, typically are around 600-800 last i checked a year ago. If you can find them.
>>28614318
They will have a proprietary mag that looks like the real deal (hopefully will not have to be down loaded like the real deal) why would you want a x39 STANAG type mag anyway?
>>28614523
The HMG-44 is based of using a STANAG magwell. The only proprietary mag is going to be the one for 8 Kurz, all others are going to be STANAG Compatible. That compatibility has been an issue with x39 in the past, and I want to see if they can do it.
Also, I wonder if they would be willing to make a 5.45 version
>TFW I want to get it in the kurz but the ammo is expensive as fuck
>>28614639
We reverse pakis now https://youtu.be/eQUzdmxJ8zY
>>28613667
Stgs are restricted
>>28611569
antifa detected
>>28611543
>tfw can't afford it right now.
>>28611743
They cut down unit cost a lot by investing to produce large numbers and by using H&Gay trigger packs.
They'll be in the red for the first few months or years, but if sales go as well as I think they will, HMG stands to make a nice profit.
>>28613944
>shitty blowback gun that barely works and beats itself to death
No thanks.
>>28615142
>yfw you cant order one anymore till public release
![indestructible_captain_scarlet_by_phantom_abridging-d5fbjv5[3].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EMZ4bIU.jpg "indestructible_captain_scarlet_by_phantom_abridging-d5fbjv5[3].jpg")
>TFW poorfags on here said that they would never have one done in time for SHOT,
>TFW I have a X39 one on Pre order since day one
>TWW X39 is the most popular caliber for the same reasons why I got mine
>TFW Ian and his buddy are getting one in the same caliber for my exact same reasons
TFW Alpha as fuck
>>28611543
karl looks and sounds like he is going to cream his pants
>>28617432
The dude could just have sex with the rifle right there and then if it wasn't the camera and the presence of Ian.
>>28617509
Whatever floats his boat, I guess
>>28615104
These ones, you mean? Because actual StGs are Prohibited.
>>28613897
>They'll probably just call it a G3 variant
I need to know either way. I'm gonna email him and tell him to try and get a classification ASAP. If it's available in 7.62x39 and Non-Restricted, us Syrups will eat that shit up like candy.
>>28617341
x39 stanag magazine is going to look cheesy as fuck
calling it now
>>28617341
Thank you for beta testing for me.
>>28617341
You do realize that the 39 mags are using the same STG mag tubes as all the other calibers that they are producing
>>28617630
I spoke with the owner on the phone and he said this,
>>28617658
>>28611543
Oh my GOD
>>28617664
They are going to have reliability issues then, x39 stanag mags are curved at an extreme angle for a reason.
![274[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dhJGlRi.jpg "274[1].jpg")
>>28617689
Ehh... No big deal actually, If they have feeding issues, and / or need to cuck the mag I'll switch to 5.56
>>28617689
There is no such thing as a STANAG x39 mag because x39 is not NATO standard
I want InRange/Forgotten Weapons shills to fucking leave, don't come here and shit on the board with crap nobody cares about.
![30w2n9u[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/U31KuxP.jpg "30w2n9u[1].jpg")
>>28617808
I think he means these type of mags
>>28617860
Not NATO standard, thus not STANAG you fucking retard. Holy shit were you dropped as a child, son?
>>28617885
That was a different person, just saying what he thought the person was talking bout...
>i'll get to use a real sturmgewehr in the coming race war
thank you god
>>28611543
It's not a goddamn fucking assault rifle jesus fucking christ it was the first intermediate rifle that was mass produce for the german army not a goddamn assault rifle that term was invented by the liberals to make guns sound scary and both sides the dems and reps both brought into that stupid name brand.
That's like saying magazine a clip and clip a magazine.
>>28618038
bruh lay off the vodka
what do you think sturmgewehr means in german
>>28617885
>not STANAG
>implying that wouldn't fit in a STANAG AR lower
>>28618038
> retards getting angry at the wrong phrases: The Post
>>28613333
>check'd and kek'd
![latest[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RCqRWjM.jpg "latest[2].jpg")
brb waiting for this to be a real gun
>>28618079
Sturm means storm, as in bad weather.
Gewehr means appliance, device or tool.
It's basically a sidearm for guards in case it starts raining. If you wanted a real gun for fighting you'd try to get your hands on an SVT-40
>>28618152
Had a solid kek
>>28618152
Gewehr has literally never meant anything in german except rifle or gun.
Sturm doesn't mean bad weather, if they meant bad weather they would say schlechtes wetter. It means fucking storm.
>>28618279
catch up with the memes gramps
>>28618152
A good, solid kek.
>>28618152
lel
>>28618152
>for when it starts raining
>d-day
>IT'S RAININ MEN
> HALLELUJAH
>IT'S RAININ MEN
Why does the wood look so shitty?
>>28618038
Assault weapon is a made up word, assault rifle is a real military word. You could argue that it isn't an assault rifle because it has no full auto, but you should chill the fuck out.
>>28617885
Fuck off, retard.
>>28614639
You are FUCKING STUPID.
The authentic looking mag will be in whatever caliber you order, and you can get more if you like.
They also happen to be able to use stanag-style mags.
this excites me
>>28619442
all words are made up
>>28620431
But unlike words, memes have been with us ever since the dawn of time.
>>28614197
The custom Remington Model 8s
>>28619627
Wot?
you literally missed the entire point of my post you acoustic nigger. I've said that in the past using x39 rounds in a Stanag style magazine, even one purpose built, has caused reliability issues.
> The authentic looking mag will be in whatever caliber you order
No shit, I think most people would be pretty pissed if they bought a 5.56 gun and got x39 mags
Lrn2 reading comprehension and maybe your jimmies wouldn't be so rustled all the time
>>28618152
Actual native german speaker here.
In the most literal way, Sturmgewehr translates into "storm rifle". But because we all know that's not how it works, let's have a look at the verb "stürmen", which means "to assault / to attack / to storm sth."
Considering how this rifle was applied, assault rifle IS the most fitting translation. At the same time, even in german that name has the same ring to it as "storm rifle" has in english, i.e. something devastating
Also Gewehr translates directly into rifle. A tool would be "Werkzeug", device would be "Gerät" or "Apparat".
7/10 bait, you actually made me reply to your bullshit, well done.
>>28611713
>>28612003
Me too kek.
Also
>A-tacs
>not doing the actual spray-painted camo on tan BDUs
wouldnotevenremoveimpswith/10
My body is ready
>>28611569
Nathaniel F please go
>>28617537
In Trudeu's gov? Not likely going to happen.
>muh Nazi salt riffle
>only intolerant racists would want this
>>28613333
>>28613126
I ordered mine in .300 BLK because of mag commonality. I didn't want it in 5.56 and 8mm Kurz and 7.62 would have required me to get a bunch of new magazines.
As far as I can tell the x39 ones are going to use those dopey looking AR mags which is why I didn't want that one. In addition to not owning any, the curvature ruins the aesthetics for me. Also because I have a decent pile of AR magazines anyway. I might buy a few more 40rd pmags though to keep the profile.
>bump
