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Resources:
>Armyranger.com
For Ranger info, obviously.
>Shadowspear.com
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.
>http://www.corpsman.com
For Navy Corpsman info.
>http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-Recon
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.
>http://www.uscg.org
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.
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Hawaii is hell
>>28600251
It's not that bad, I live there
>>28600269
So have I, the big Island is hell.
Are there qt girls in the military?
>>28600269
>>28600301
Also you're a ckuck bitch for not thinking the gun laws equate to hell.
>>28600301
maybe I'm just stronger than you, I'm on the big island right now
>>28600305
If there were they're now a venereal disease dispenser
>>28600317
No you're just dumber. Hawaii is the worst state, worse than New Jersey.
>>28600235
High school - 1:1 male:female
Military - 5:1
If you weren't appealing enough to get your dick wet in high school, you probably aren't appealing enough to attract your peers in the military.
>>28600288
White trash of the crazy flavor, frequent flyer at the medical clinic, and pregnant by her 4th month out of AIT. She actually got moved to another station because she was basically disrupting her whole section with drama.
>>28600345
couldn't take it bitch boiiiii>????/
>>28600349
but was she hot
>>28600353
>Have to get permission to own guns from banana niggers
>Shit for gun stores
>No ranges
>No CC/OC
>Humid shithole
If you like it in Hawaii you should stay there so your stupidity can't fuck up other states
>>28600353
Where do you live? I was outside Hilo.
>>28600411
Hilo, Waikea Uka
Are army wives as bad as they say?
>>28600363
Definitely not. Had a bit of the crack whore spooky skellington thing going on.
Well this thread is off to a great start: haoles and trailer trash, think I'll go eat something and play some ARMA.
>>28600455
she probably knew what she was doing then. don't lie, you tagged her a few times
If you want to do spooky stuff as an officer, is AFSC 13DXB or SF the better option?
>>28600444
No shit? Pepeekeo was where I lived. Only good part of Hilo was the surplus store.
>>28600489
There's no pussy in the Army worth my career, anon.
>>28600127
>you will never fight in a cold-war-gone-hot scenario with Vietnam era tech on the moon
How fucked am I?
MOS 35A
Basic to BOLC option
FEB 8
-Ship to Benning
fug
>>28600532
;-)
>>28600305
The qt one are rare but there are plenty of decent ones
>>28600546
>MOS 35A
>Basic to BOLC option
You're not a 35A, anon, you're an 09S. Halfway through OCS you'll get branched into what the fuck ever. MI is the third hardest branch to get out of OCS after finance and aviation.
I would start researching 42B, 74A, 88A, and 92A to see which one you like best.
>>28600477
I tried the 3rd one and still can't figure out half of the keybindings. I am enjoying Squad though, it will be interesting to see how it improves over time
Underage incoming 35G reporting.
Two anons kept mentioning the dangers of underage drinking. Are you talking about at AIT or right now at home? Hypothetically how could they possibly find out during my TS clearance background check?
>>28600629
he's talking about AIT
Is going to the navy's nuclear propulsion school a trap, or should I go for it?
How much actual homo shit goes on in the military? Any else remember that gif just chock full of military dudes fucks each other? Mostly Russians though lel
>>28600582
>You're not a 35A, anon, you're an 09S. Halfway through OCS you'll get branched into what the fuck ever. MI is the third hardest branch to get out of OCS after finance and aviation.
I guess things are different for the regular Army. I'm going NYARNG
Apparently they had 3 MI slots open that needed to be filled. I've selected one of those vacancies for myself.
Basically I looked at a spreadsheet and picked the three I wanted. The others were also awesome, essentially Human Resources.
If I fail out of OCS, I'm contracted for all 35 series MOS's. No 35P's were open though, a shame really. I pick up languages easily and already speak German fluently.
I'm mostly afraid of being 8 years older than other recruits at basic. Christ, how much more shit do you get for being older than 25?
>>28600715
>NYARNG
Oh, yeah, carry on then.
Just be prepared for OCS to be full retard. It's not hard. There's no training, it's just stupidity and hazing. Endure it for 12 weeks and it's over.
>I'm mostly afraid of being 8 years older than other recruits at basic. Christ, how much more shit do you get for being older than 25?
It's NBD. I was 26 in basic, there were up to 41 year olds in there with me. Same in OCS.
>>28600781
>there were up to 41 year olds in there
Holy shit, I was worried about being 28
How fucked is that guy in the last thread with a 11xop40 with a 15min/2mile time?
I assume with 2 months BCT and more in AIT he could get that down to 13? If he takes it seriously thats more than a few months of good conditioning
>>28600806
27 commissioning into the air force. I know that pain.
>>28600695
Imagine being trapped on a boat for months on end in close quarters with other men, it's like prison gay but with more discipline
>>28600813
He's entering unprepared. It's not the numbers it's what they infer about the person.
>>28600806
I'm 29, my recruiter says he shipped out a 33 year old and a 34 year old last month
Can officers go to sniper school?
>>28600864
I think you mean imply.
The man decided to be a Ranger, quit his job, gave up the reg pussy, and quit his hobby to try out.
That would seem to imply a fair bit
>>28600865
Goddamn. All the other people at my ASVAB test and MEPS were straight out oh high school, or still in it.
Letterman jackets and so on. All the Marine hopefuls at the ASVAB test were dressed a bit "urban."
>>28600929
oh yeah. my "class", i've got ten years on them all. and they're all "urban"
>>28600715
i was 23 when i went through.
i wanted to kill each and every motherfucker in basic because they were such retards by default because they were young.
shit was cancer.
have fun trying not to strangle every person you see there.
any 92w's here
>>28601186
holy shit watching that army mos video of that made me want to kill myself
i hope youre not active joe. LMAO.
>>28600929
>>28600946
>"urban"
go back r/malefashionadvice and talk about wearing leather shoes and a brooks brothers shirt to walmart
>>28601213
spotted the urban youth
>>28601213
he means niggers you mong, "urban youths"
>>28601200
nah i wanted to join and was lookin at that mos for after service life
>>28601238
Did you get like a 35 on the ASVAB? Honestly, you can tell us.
>>28601291
i haven't even taken the asvab or talked to a recruiter. im a certified wastewater treatment plant operator now and that was the only water mos i could find
>>28601308
ah, water guy. i was the one telling you to frack
>>28601308
please don't
if youre already doing it in the civilian world the army wont teach you anything you dont already know
learn something else and become well rounded
honest the best mos for civilian application is 68a if you can get it
i dont have a degree, got my 68a and now am making 60k a year starting in an entry level position
thats a lot better than a college degree can get you nowadays
>>28601356
yeah, not in my state and i dont want to move cause i like my state.
>>28601373
thats around starting for wastewater here too. i guess i just wanted to join, ill look into 68a
>>28601182
Is it that bad?
>>28601410
It's not as bad as he says, but its pretty bad. Most of the people in your platoon will be 18 year olds fresh out of high school. After a month or so, you get pretty tired of the "Yah, Imma go Airborne Ranger Special Delta Forces Green/Crimson Beret". But if you do fail out and get a choice of MOS, definitely go 35 series. I hear 35Q is pretty highspeed.
>>28601461
damn you should have been in the last thread bro. heavily intel related. very little 18x. i dont think there was one SEALs vs DELTA post lol
>>28601461
I don't care about 18x or opt40 guys, but just outright doing stupid shit because yolo might get be to beat a child if it fucks me over.
>>28601499
What's wrong with 18x?
>>28601499
Being on nightshift doesn't leave me with a lot of time to browse threads. I spend most of my time in class, sleeping, or at the gym.
>>28601509
I don't think he means there's anything wrong with it. He probably just means its nice to have a change of subject every once in a while.
>>28601517
>its nice to have a change of subject every once in a while.
I can dig it. The variety of MOS discussed in the last thread was cool.
Anyone else going to basic at fort jackson in a few days?
>>28601509
no disrespect to the guys that are legit, but to the shitposters who have never ran a day in their life, saw a movie or played a game. it gets old.
last thread there was a guy saying he ships early Feb and runs like a 16 min 2 mile or some shit, and he's going 18x opt 40...
>>28601611
Don't hate on the fat people going for 18x. How else are we going to force them to be laundry specialists if they dont fail at another MOS?
>>28601631
Pretty sure the guy is a power lifter, not fat. That's why he can't run for shit.
>>28601611
Yeah, poor fucker quit his job and left his girlfriend too.
>>28601611
>18x opt 40...
lmao
>>28601656
he just joined on a whim, now he's gonna get fucked
>>28601707
He's 11x opt40, he'll make it through boot, and if he makes it through boot at the 18-21 APFT he'll make it through Basic Airborne Course (assuming he doesn't quit), and if he doesn't make it through RASP he'll just go to 82nd or 173rd as an 11B or C.
>>28601735
How is that any different than what he just said?
>>28601707
Pretty sure his recruiter told him the Army would get him ready for RASP in basic.
>>28601755
>How is that any different than what he just said?
That's not really getting fucked anon.
Yeah, combat arms (other than SF and SOF) during peace time (though we still have deployments going on) is more likely to be shit.
But it's not the same as getting stuck being a laundry specialist or a fucking cook.
>>28601735
i wish him the best, seriously. i just hope he understands what he just signed up for
>>28601755
that's true, its passing. like someone said last thread though, he shouldn't be shooting for minimum requirements
If I CAN be an air force pilot (with LASEK), should I go ahead and take the opportunity?
>>28601858
no, be a mechanic. flying planes is gay as fuck
>>28601858
If you're not going SOF you're a pathetic loser
>>28601875
mechanic detected
what's your call-sign?
>>28601890
>what's your call-sign?
Nut Bucket.
>>28600865
WHAT BRANCH?
>>28601590
how long?? like under a week?
>>28601958
Yep
>>28601783
Point, but holy shit will it hit hard if he gets tossed in the 82nd after thinking he's gonna be a ranger.
Can you retry RASP or Selection if you wash out of op40/18x?
>>28602023
>Can you retry RASP or Selection if you wash out of op40/18x?
Yeah. But you'll be pushed really hard not to do it if you have any responsibility at all.
>>28602032
What do you mean? They will try to convince you not to but it's your choice?
>>28602066
>They will try to convince you not to but it's your choice?
Your packet will get lost, you'll get some "1 on 1 counseling", if you put in a packet you'll get shit on with constant 24 hour duty shifts, if you're an NCO you might get a bad NCOER because you're putting your responsibilities as an NCO to the side to go to SFAS or RASP.
>>28601991
>>28601958
5 days to be exact.
Why you going to?
>>28602092
That's fucking retarded, is there any way around it? Working under people that would do that sounds like hell.
I have calves of steel. With prolonged workouts the rest of my body turns to steel too, but I'm a lazy bastard and don't work out anything but my legs, inadvertently at that.
Will this help me in the military?
>>28602106
>That's fucking retarded, is there any way around it?
At least for SFAS packets your CoC can't technically say no (if I remember correctly, may have changed). If you put the packet in they have to send it.
>Working under people that would do that sounds like hell.
People are petty. Including people in the Army.
But from their perspective they're also losing someone who has responsibilities (an NCO, trainer for a weapons system, team leader, or whatever), or they're losing a good junior enlisted (if you're not a shit bag).
>>28602186
Fuck them, actively hindering a subordinates progress is unacceptable.
>>28600865
When I did my physical we had two 30 year old guys going 11x
>>28601590
Monday
>>28601590
Yeah. 27d.
And nervous af.
>>28602207
>Fuck them, actively hindering a subordinates progress is unacceptable.
From their perspective you are actively hindering the mission readiness of your unit.
>>28601611
My 2 mile is 16 minutes and I leave on the 16th.... I just have a normal 11x contract though.
>>28602241
I wonder if they would see it that way if they got a letter saying "So we don't have to train a replacement, you will never be promoted, ever"
Train a fucking replacement and let the guy try out for SOF
>>28601611
I thought 16 minute 2 mile was acceptable
>>28602246
How old are you?
>>28602261
>I wonder if they would see it that way if they got a letter saying "So we don't have to train a replacement, you will never be promoted, ever"
That's not the same thing. You're confusing some bureaucratic decision not to promote someone with an individual deciding to potentially hinder their own team by leaving a personnel gap.
From their perspective you are potentially leaving a capability or training gap, which in real life could cause the death of one or more people you actually work with, because you selfishly want to be one of those cool commando high speed types from the vidya.
What's the average day of an intel Marine like?
>>28602281
I'm 18. I'll turn 19 during basic.
>>28602287
>What's the average day of an intel Marine like?
>Wake up
>Go to PT
>Go to work
>Don't actually do any intel, just agree with the highest ranking Muuuuhhhrrreeeeen present
>Go home
>Jerk off to how Hooah you are, post photos on Facebook of you in your bathroom mirror wearing full battle rattle.
>>28602292
15:54 is 60 on the APFT scale, and your minimum.
If you can run that already you'll get better. And when you get to your unit they'll make you run if you suck at it.
>>28602296
Sounds like a good day.
>>28602281
It's exactly the same thing.
>Good soldier is wasted in grunt role
>Wants to contribute to the army in a better position
>Leaves a spot to be filled
>Officer wants to move up in rank because rank is all that matters
>Leaves a lower position to be filled
Really there is more sense if denying the officer a promotion
>>28602238
Why are you nervous, /k/omrade? What are you doing and where are you going?
>>28602268
i can do 2.2 miles in 14 minutes dead. i'm 36 years old and left my countries shitty little army three years ago. so no, sorry m8, it's not great.
>>28602301
I did a class with an OSI instructor, he didn't have very nice things to say about Marines that attended the courses he taught.
>>28602308
>Really there is more sense if denying the officer a promotion
There really isn't. The officer corps is designed for officers to move through different roles, from platoon time to company XO to company time to staff (if you make your 10 year HYT).
The enlisted ranks are not designed for that.
>>Good soldier is wasted in grunt role
>>Wants to contribute to the army in a better position
The army is just as capable of training someone else to do that job as they are of training someone to replace you.
The difference is that while they are training someone to replace you your job goes undone.
You're not some special snowflake protagonist of your own story who gets the support of his CoC because he wants to go play commando.
I agree with you anon that if someone wants to go to SFAS their peers and leadership should set them up for success.
But the fact that you can't see it from their perspective just shows how autistic you are.
>>28602281
>which in real life could cause the death of one or more people you actually work with
What? No, are you fucking retarded? What the fuck is wrong with your dumb ass, where are you getting this bullshit from?
>>28602331
>are you fucking retarded?
Are you fucking retarded?
In a combat arms unit, a capability gap very much can lead to someone getting killed.
>>28602023
>Can you retry RASP or Selection if you wash out of op40/18x?
If you are removed from training for failing lanes/evolutions, you may re-attempt at a later date - which will also be influenced by what was documented during your initial attempt.
If you are medically removed from training, you may either recycle or attempt at a later date.
If you VW, you will not be given the time of day, let alone wasting another slot.
There are people who have failed after multiple attempts, who later made the grade. A friend of mine had to attempt SFAS three times before he got his long tab.
>>28602327
You are a fucking idiot.
>There is never a pool of replacements, if someone goes to selection his job is just empty like he vanished without telling anyone
>Officers should move up and out but enlisted are tools to be kept where they belong
>Wanting to progress and advance is selfish
>But an officer committing fucking crimes to hold you back so he doesn't have to work is totally cool
>>28602358
That's really interesting and makes perfect sense, if you quit you're not what they want.
Thanks for clearing that up, is multiple tries before passing a common thing?
>>28602363
Let me guess, you're in DEP.
Again, I agree with you anon. If a soldier wants to go to SFAS their peers and leadership should set them up for success.
But that's just not the real world sometimes.
>>28602378
>is multiple tries before passing a common thing?
Fairly. You can still pass and still be a non-select as well.
>>28602345
And someone in a non deployed unit advancing does not equate going fucking AWOL in a combat zone you cock sucker.
>>28602327
Were the Marines ill mannered or just stupid? Stories?
>>28602398
>And someone in a non deployed unit advancing does not equate going fucking AWOL in a combat zone you cock sucker.
Did I say that?
I'm sorry to step on your dreams family.
Not everyone is out to help you, and their reasons may be justified (to themselves at least).
>>28602395
If i were to get Lasek done in about a year, what are my chances of going to RASP?
>>28602312
Fort jackson.
Just its a big change in life for me. Hell, I'm going to barely pass the pt test to get in.
>>28602395
Damn that would suck, doing everything to standard and knowing you have to do it all over again (I assume not repeating isn't a choice you could make at that point, you know you can do it it's just going to be a two round fight)
>>28602414
>Were the Marines ill mannered or just stupid? Stories?
No.
It's just a doctrine thing.
In intel work it's not a good idea for everyone to just blindly defer to the highest ranking person in the room because that person may be a complete moron.
Muuhhhhrrreeeens don't see it that way, and in the courses he taught that had Marine students they tended to blindly agree with the highest ranking person in the room.
>>28602420
Calm down man, I am going to be there too. What's your MOS?
>>28602417
You implied it, or at least that the command will see it that way. Your reasoning is BS, if an officer is fucking a soldier with shady shit like punishing them for even trying and destroying paperwork that asshole is NOT doing it for noble goals.
>>28602436
27D
Anyone know much about PJ selection? There's a lot of info out there on the 18 series but I can't find much about PJ. I'm know what my PT goals are before I enlist, anything specific I should be preparing for mentally? Books to read?
>>28602419
>Lasek
0% - Any type of eye surgery that creates a corneal flap disqualifies you. I had PRK done.
>>28602425
Pretty much, in most cases they'll bring you before a board or have select cadre speak to you about it. I'd say that the majority of those people will take those points into consideration and try again at a later date.
A friend of mine who took the long walk, went to selection (passed), and they told him no thanks. He came back, deployed, still did his job above standard as if nothing ever happened. He was contacted a few months after returning from deployment and left for OTC.
>>28602438
>You implied it
No, you inferred it.
And then turned it into a straw man and beat it up.
>Your reasoning is BS
1. it's not my reasoning, I'm not your CO shitting all over your operator dreams here kiddo.
2. It really isn't. If they were to deploy tomorrow and you stepped out to pursue your commando dreams and that left a capability gap, that might actually get someone killed.
and
3. They just really don't want to lose a soldier with enough experience, maturity, and training to get selected.
>if an officer is fucking a soldier with shady shit like punishing them for even trying and destroying paperwork that asshole is NOT doing it for noble goals.
It's not about your value judgment, it's about their perception.
It's the same reason people can't understand why crazy Christian fundies shoot up abortion clinics.
>>28602448
Dude you are going to be fine. You will have to play fuck fuck games for awhile, but then it'll even out a few weeks. Just do PT whenever you find time.
>>28602464
How is PRK working for you? I have researched on that because that is what the Army is offering, but I read mixed reviews, alot of people said it made things worse.
>>28602467
So you're equating trying to understand an officer pretty much attacking an enlisted man via his career to seeing the reasoning behind a mass shooter? Sounds about right.
>My career is important because I'm an officer, you're just a cog and must never be allowed to advance because of hypotheticals I'm using to justify my irrational devaluing of enlisted soldiers.
>>28602464
Oh, they actually tell you why you weren't selected so you know what to work on? That's way better than I expected.
Sounds like your friend is the kind of guy for the job. Is his performance after returning to his unit the main contributing factor in the callback?
>>28602501
It's fantastic, for me anyways. I had it done long before I went to the 75th - so I think I can comment on it pretty well.
I had astigmatism beforehand; night vision wasn't effected at all, but I would get slight star bursts/halos.
Only downside was recovery - which fucking sucked. Bad. I have a very high tolerance for pain, but fuck it was bad. Eyesight took a while to return as well, which honestly is fucking terrifying.
>>28602505
No, I'm saying you're committing a fundamental attribution error you fucking mongoloid.
And you're conflating two separate arguments you made.
At this point you need to just stay away from MEPS because you're too dumb to ever be in the military.
>>28602519
>Oh, they actually tell you why you weren't selected so you know what to work on? That's way better than I expected.
As long as you're a candidate that did very well/has very redeeming qualities.
>Sounds like your friend is the kind of guy for the job. Is his performance after returning to his unit the main contributing factor in the callback?
No idea, didn't tell him. Nothing about selection is standard for them, and no standards are ever put in print or passed along. Even for 99% guys in the unit.
>>28602543
That's kinda crazy how secretive it is.
Thanks for all the info Ricky, have a good night.
>>28602358
Sounds like they want someone who doesn't quit and has mental fortitude rather than a big guy who can lift heavy things
>>28602557
Not the BEST guy, but the RIGHT guy.
>>28600127
>call recruiter
>get YOU session date within a month
>go to YOU session
>recruiters are down to earth
>my ideal job is priority
>go away and hand in school reports
>recruiter contacts me and tells me he's booked me in next week for additional testing because they need applicants for this job quickly
Not even shin splints can make me unhappy now
>>28602522
Fuck, my astigmatism has my eyes at 20/200 in my bad eye and 20/25 in my good one.
Is PRK a good idea before or after I enlist?
>>28602557
>rather than a big guy who can lift heavy things
Go to the gym Anon.
I work with a lot of CAG guys, most of them fall into two categories, fitness wise; gym rats (whether it's crossfit/powerlifting/etc) or super endurance freaks (ultramarathons/ironmans/etc).
They want someone with intelligence, a high level of trainability, mental fortitude, and is also a physical freak of nature.
I'm not saying you need to be ripped like Arnie, but it's time to lose the perception that the ideal SOF body is skinnyfat - which is something this board loves to regurgitate.
>>28602576
That depends;
If you can pay for it on your own/with insurance without it financially burdening you? Sure why not.
If not? Be aware that in the Army, preference will always given to SOF personnel first. Then you will have a wait list of other people who signed up long before you were. But it will be 100% free.
>>28602629
Did anyone actually say anything to the contrary? I want to go 18x (No not to be a door kicker, I'm more interested in the traditional force multiplication training/liason role they played) but I'm not talking to a recruiter until I can get a perfect APFT score.
>>28602659
>Did anyone actually say anything to the contrary?
Many people. Hence the filename.
Also, best of luck with the 18X route. SF is a tough gig. And a lot of it takes a large amount of patience.
Doesn't hurt to get with a recruiter beforehand though. If you haven't check out ProfessionalSoldiers and find a mentor. If you have a NGSF team local, it might also pay off to try and talk to a SF recruiter.
>>28602739
Ricky how do you feel about sites like Armyranger and Shadowspear? Do you go on either?
I went to Armyranger, but they honestly seem hypersensitive there.
>>28602764
I'm a member on Shadowspear. ArmyRanger.com is mostly older guys, and I don't really go there.
>>28600127
/pol/ here
Holy shit. Do people still join the military?
Wow, that hasn't been cool since like 2005.
Well, good luck with those kike wars I guess.
>>28602832
Don't you have like cuck porn to secretly be watching, or something?
>>28602855
>joining Obama's gay lesbian dindu army
>calling /pol/ a cuck
get a load of this guy
>>28602832
To be fair, a military coup is probably the best way to deal with the Jewish problem. I just hope these motherfuckers know what they're actually getting themselves into.
>>28602881
Ok, fair enough.
As you were soldiers.
I'll fuck off now.
>>28602832
>/pol/ here
As if that gives your post merit or something?
>>28602832
>Caring about the politics behind said war
>Not wanting to just shoot sand niggers
>>28602739
>the filename
I'm 99% sure vinning falls under the "Cardio freak of nature" option of the two you gave.
>SF is a tough gig. And a lot of it takes a large amount of patience.
From what I understand the pipeline is something like two or three years? It's worth it in my opinion, can never be too well trained.
And thanks for the advice, I'll go poke around. I know I'm at minimum a year out from enlistment because I'm still working on getting 15 credits to validate my GED in addition to other obligations. I'm in it for the long game though.
>find a mentor
My boss is a former 18b, but he got out a long time ago. Mostly been talking to him.
>Sorry for long delayed reply, I was walking home from work.
>>28602893
Is that a drop bear?
>>28602629
Mirin
>>28603105
You just want to fuck the fish.
>>28602629
>If you don't look like this you're not making it through selection.
Good, now we can shut up the million 18xOption40 fucktards.
>>28603157
Not true. RASP can be graduated from anyone in decent shape. Have never been to SFAS so I can't say anything there.
Important to note that Ricky's in RRC, which grabs the freaks of nature from batt or a small amount from elsewhere in the Army that have also attended RSLC and have a tab.
>>28603243
CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM
OPSEC OPSEC OPSEC CONDUCTOR CONDUCTOR PLEASE WE HAVE A PROBLEM
>>28600806
Kids today are pussies, internet made them soft.
I regularly work kids half my age into the ground.
I'm a civ construction worker, the biggest pussy I ever met was a marine who kept crying about cuts and his hands hurting.
>>28602569
>YOU session
fellow aussie detected
wait till assessment day.
medical examination, psychological evaluation and a job interview
i wish you good luck son, and may god have mercy on your soul
Does the 75th still deploy?
Where to?
What is quality of life like?
Most importantly, if I did become a Ranger, would I have the same tactical sweeping operations like regular 11brooms, or would I actually do shit?
From what I've gathered in these threads, anyone with the right mindset can pass RASP and shit.
Most of all, is it fun?
Shit boys. We are at MEPS and getting ready to head to lackland. See you guys in 2 months.
>>28603721
Have a good one man.
Pls bring stories of your adventures
>>28603721
GODSPEED ANON
>>28603653
mindset and fitness
Is it possible to be a spook or SAD on langley without having any military experience? (e.g joining right after college and work way to the top)
>>28604034
depends on your degree. go apply on their website
>>28603653
Yes they deploy
They aren't broomers
Instead of busy work they train or do PT
If you get in you're a fucking cherry until you either see combat or get your Tab.
Making it through RASP is cool
Making it through RASP and Ranger School means you're squared away, know your shit, and know how to suck it up
It's fun when you're not a cherry anymore
Fatass here, lost 30lbs. in the last four months, but I've still got about 30 more to go (currently 210lbs, 5'11"). Is there any point in talking to a recruiter right now when I'm at least a few months away from being of acceptable weight to join?
Has anyone here ever been a helicopter pilot/know a helicopter pilot in the army? Would you reccomend it over armored cavalry or infantry?
>>28601590
dude, holy shit. I remember that custom cursor. That was the cursor on the family computer when I was like 6 because my sister liked horses.
>>28602207
The military is not the club of personal advancement, it's the club of you have a responsibility to everyone else to do your job and mission readiness of the unit is more important than letting a guy try out for SF/go to RASP
>>28604094
>they aren't broomers
Yeah all those privates that prove themselves through rasp are magically not new fucks and don't have to clean the company.....
Ranger bat isn't as special as people think. It's a higher budget higher tempo infantry unit. It's still full of all the gay shit the army has to offer.
>>28604257
Yes, you might even be under if they tape you.
>>28604257
It depends on what you're going for
>>28604411
one comes in here every now and then, he seems to like it
>>28604411
You don't enlist directly into it. You drop a packet. If you're serious about becoming one you should enlist as a helicopter mechanic first.
I'm going to be getting a TS/SCI clearance, and I've heard that presents some fantastic opportunities for employment outside of the military. But does anyone know any specifics? What kind of stuff would I want to learn to make myself more appealing to those kind of companies? Is it just the FBI / alphabet soup agencies? If I've got a clearance, what could I get that would supplement it the most? A CS degree? How do you keep a clearance once you're out of the military?
>>28604620
What do you mean?
>>28604677
What mos branch etc. Sorry in advance if you posted it and I missed it.
>>28602569
congrats anon, what job?
>>28602629
>ideal SOF body is skinnyfat
surely nobody thinks that? lmao
>yeah actually I have the ideal bodytype for SF, I just didn't want to roid like the rest of them do though, they're too big
>>28603074
looks like it
>>28604257
They can still help you this early and they will likely try to motivate you to keep losing weight and/or work out with you if they think you're serious.
>>28604649
Nonsense. If you're serious about flying helicopters you should do a WOFT packet as a civilian.
Civvies have a higher acceptance rate going right into being pilot warrants than enlisted have.
>>28604675
Government agencies and government contractors are a big one. Even a low end IT helpdesk job can be a 70,000/yr contracting gig if you have to work with TS systems so they can't outsource it to India.
You need to supplement with a degree though. CS is a great choice, but most STEM is favored.
>>28604094
thanks m8 sounds alright to me
>>28604257
fellow lardtard here, how did you lose weight?
Gonna start a 1000 cal deficit and try to run for at least 30 minutes every day (with some pushups and situps and shit).
>>28604819
Not him, but I personally went from 270 to 190 mostly just by starving myself. I wasn't consistent at all with exercise, but aimed for a 1500 calorie diet.
Once I hit 190, I started exercising a lot more regularly and eating better. The more cardio I did, the more I could eat like I used to. Now I'm 183, eating 2.5k calories or so. I've still got a ways to go but it worked for me.
>>28604856
thanks fampai, I know I'm going to make it
What did you eat during your starvation period? Couple of eggs and some OATZ?
>>28604819
>how did you lose weight?
Roughly a 1000 cal deficit, as you said.
For the first three months, I didn't do any exercise at all, but a month ago I started C25K and that has been progressing smoothly.
Also, and this might be bullshit, but I've been told that as your weight increases it exponentially increases the amount of force that is put on your knees. If you're significantly overweight, like more than 40 pounds, you might want to wait to lose some weight first before you start running.
>>28604889
>If you're significantly overweight, like more than 40 pounds, you might want to wait to lose some weight first before you start running.
Sounds wise. I live next to a lake, I should probably take up swimming for cardio.
Did you experience any skin flab?
>>28600450
>Kiddies be marrying their high school crush
>Crush sees what real men look like
>kiddies be mad and start posting ex pics on /b/
>>28604902
>Did you experience any skin flab?
Not as of yet, but as I said I'm still a fair bit overweight and my gut isn't quite gone yet, so I might have a little left at the end.
Reading threads like this hurt, for one i'm not American. The second thing being that we have mandatory service in my country, however during version of the "MEPS" all i got was that service was possible. Probably my eyesight and fucking up our version of the asvab contributed to that.
Sucks that you want to serve but can't.
>>28604937
Well good luck pham I know you're going to make it
>>28604708
so i can go to a recruiter and say "WOFT, please?">>28604733
Hey I'm going CTN in the Navy, what are the chances that I will be stationed in Japan? I want to go there.
>>28605266
Fug
>>28600677
Lurk moar. Yes, it's a trap. Only positive is getting a good civ job quick after you do your 6 years.
Does the military issue you a passport if you don't have one?
>>28600695
If it's known that you're homophobic, you're guaranteed to get fucked with.
>>28605349
*Sometimes* the military issues a government non-diplomatic passport that is used for official duties that require such a document. If you want to vacation or travel for personal reasons you need a personal passport. Hell, my unit sometimes did spins in Germany and such where personal passports were required as there wasn't enough time to create and issue gov passports.
Just took my ASVAB. I feel like I did shit on every section but Word Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension, and Science Knowledge. I'm garbage at math. How fucked am I?
>>28605464
What's your score percentile?
>>28605490
Don't know yet, scores haven't come out. I just feel like it's not gonna be good.
Fucking hell, MEPS lost my transcripts from college so now I have to wait until I go to lackland apparently in order to sign an e3 contract. What the fuck man.
>>28605510
>not having a copy in your hands
Consider this a lesson you should obey for the rest of your time in the military. Always have copies of your paperwork and always carry relevant copies with you to any admin shit.
>>28605540
I did. I was the last one done at meps and didn't even get a chance to sign a contract my first time here. It's quite bullshit because now I have to sit in wait until Friday or Saturday to have an official e3 graduation contract. They lost my transcripts here too so it's bullshit. I'm quite mad, because I had 50 credit hours and I'll be damned if I get stuck on an e1 for 20 weeks and then get my e3
>>28605570
that sucks man. don't worry, you'll get it straight. good luck bro
>>28605586
Thanks. I'm just stressed because my dad is losing his shit about it etc but I won't blog here.
Today will be a good(ish) day until I get to lackland at about 9 or 10. Then a slightly annoying version of hell will have come. I say that because I've seen and heard how bad mcrd has it in San Diego.
>>28605623
my dad and stepdad would lose their shit about any injustice the military bestows unto me as well. dad was 30 years Naval Intel, stepdad was 25 years SF medic. between the 2 of them, i know what to expect and what not to put up with. such a blessing
>>28605657
Yep. Both my parents were in I think 8 years and know how the system work(ed)s and its just frustrating to have him calling and complaining and yelling at me to fix it here when I can't.
Such is life. I best get used to the yelling because it starts tonight.
Maybe I can break my 4chan "addiction"
>>28605704
They let you have your phone at meps? God the tampa meps must be particularly terrible then.
Is there any benefit to joining the military with some higher education, but no actual degree?
I was a fuck-up and lost my financial aid, and then subsequently dropped out because I couldn't afford to continue. I think when I left I had gotten around 70 credit hours.
>>28600127
Which branch do I join to get a government issued gf?
>>28605928
Yeah they said they don't give a fuck because we have a 4 hour wait between final oath and the bus ride to the airport.
>>28606063
Coast guars
>>28604675
>But does anyone know any specifics?
It depends on
1 what your MOS is
and
2 what you're looking to do when you get out
Also you have about 2 years from the time you leave any position where a TS/SCI is required to get back into a position where a TS/SCI is required or your clearance will be considered "lapsed".
The difference between having an "active" and a "lapsed" clearance is that a new SF86 is required if it's "lapsed". Which means it's more time consuming for your clearance to be turned back on.
The reason this happens is that you only have a clearance so long as you are in a slot that requires that clearance. So when you leave a job/slot/position and no longer require it it's "turned off". Your clearance doesn't follow you. However if you've had a TS/SCI before it's easier to get it back which is why companies that have positions which require it head hunt for cleared people. They prefer if it's "active" because it means less time and money to get cleared again because you don't require the full investigation.
>>28604706
>surely nobody thinks that? lmao
I personally didn't hear it much from people who had never been in, but I heard that type of thing from guys who were already in for awhile (not SOF or SF) or NCOs (not SOF or SF).
I imagine a lot of it is confirmation bias from them doing the terrible APFT focused (cross country with some push ups and sit ups) PT for the last ten years.
>>28606181
I'm going in as a 35F in the Army. This is pretty interesting, would it not be a big deal to have your clearance lapse? If it is, then I guess I'll have to see if I can pursue internships or anything like that while I'm going to college.
>>28605938
>Is there any benefit to joining the military with some higher education, but no actual degree?
I think you get a bump to e2 or e3 (need a complete four year degree for e4).
>>28606235
>would it not be a big deal to have your clearance lapse?
Not really.
If it's "lapsed" that just means you need to do a new SF86 and an investigation. But if you were already able to get a TS/SCI, didn't lose your clearance for something stupid or criminal, and didn't do something stupid (rack up tons of debt and become delinquent) or criminal between the time you left and the time you do a new SF86, you'll likely be fine.
If you want to keep doing 35F stuff after you get out, you'll need at least a 2 year degree. Before I got out DoD put out a new hiring requirement for intel contractors saying that minimum civilian education was an Associate's or equivalent.
I knew more than one person who was contracting at CENTCOM in Tampa who were told to start school within the next six months or they were going to be let go.
>>28606283
Neat, thank you very much. I was planning on going to college when I finished regardless, so it's good to know that it won't really hurt my opportunities to have my clearance lapse.
>>28606309
I want to clarify a bit about the DoD contracting requirements.
A lot of people that I've talked to don't know how contract hiring works.
Most people think you get hired by, for example, Xe, KBR, Dyncorp, Triple Canopy etc. and then you just go do static security, WPS contracts, drive trucks, cook food, do intel stuff (a few smaller companies do intel contracting as well as some of the larger companies).
When you're hired, the State Department, Department of Defense, or whoever is putting out the contract requirement, makes the final determination on hiring.
So a company very well may want you because of your experience/resume, but you may not get hired because an HR person at DoD/DoS didn't like your resume, you didn't meet certain requirements (civilian education), or what have you. I actually ran into this problem.
I was ETSing, and in contact with a contracting company that offered me $155k to go to Afghanistan after seeing my resume and doing a phone interview (I was deployed at the time). I was also recommended by someone the recruiter knew (an NCO that I worked with). But I didn't have a degree, so that was what was holding me back.
By the time I finished my AA my clearance was going to lapse soon so I just decided to stay in school and finish my Bachelor's.
As the time to my flight (408 cst) ticks down, I'm actually getting a slight bit nervous. Sure I've watched videos and read stories of BMT, but you can't encapsulate an experience like that on a video or in writing. Can't wait to have a few cool stories or something when I get to Monterey though.
Did anyone else gets slightly more nervous as your flight time got closer? I was fine up until an hour or so ago, then when my family left I realized this was the real shit now
>>28606371
The eternal HR cucking. Thank you again for all of this info.
Heading to recruiters for first time. How do I negotiate the best possible terms?
Navy, want to be fmf corpsman. Goal is college
On a scale of 1 - 10, how weird are commissioned submariners?
>>28600883
Nope. You could enlist, go to sniper, then get dat commission
>>28607079
Insatiable lust for boi pussy/10
>>28604819
Unless you are extremely obese a 1000 cal deficit is going to be counterproductive. You should aim for a 300-500 calorie deficit.
>>28600127
Didn't one of you faggots fail out of basic because you couldnt do a mile and a half in 10 minutes?
If I renounce my German citizenship (dual citizen) will I still be barred from some high clearance jobs in the military?
Done a little bit of research and it seems that the Army only has a handful of MOS's with no vision requirement. Would another branch have better options for someone who is red/green colorblind?
Any colorblind enlisted in here?
>>28607217
A lot of idiots (read: you) post in this thread, so I'm sure someone has
>>28600251
Was stationed at k bay.
Am hawaiian
You're a faggot.
>>28607308
If you are red/green colorblind the only jobs open for you are going to be a limited range of office-type jobs
>>28607326
I think there is a bit of confusion going on here with terms. As I understand it red/green discriminate basically means "partially colorblind", or red/green colorblind. Infantry and artillery are open to those individuals without a waiver (which I'm pretty sure you can't get in this case, seeing as it's a lifetime incurable condition). So there are other MOSs and even combat ones open to those individuals, but I think it would be best if I got a more recent eye exam that could test for potentionally disqualifying eye conditions and all that shit.
I talked to a navy recruiter and he really tried to push me to do nuclear, but I remember reading some terrible things about it on /k/. I also can't remember if they said that it was only subs that are bad or if carriers are bad too. Can anyone substantiate those claims?
See you guys on the other side.
>>28607877
Good luck senpai, you'll make it.
>>28607561
I guess I remembered wrong but I was pretty sure infantry and artillery are closed to r/g colorblind because red/green being stop/bad and good to go signals is kind of important.
>>28607848
If you want to be a nuke you will like it but if you just get pushed in you will probably hate it. Training is long and stressful hours, and once you reach your ship/sub you get more long and stressful hours while you study for qualifications. After you're qualed up it relaxes some but you're still the first on and last off and work near the reactor in the bottom of the ship.
>>28605255
CTN is probably the best job in the Navy, but it's one of the worst if you want to be stationed all over the world. CTNs work for the USA from the USA.
Take 2 weeks of leave and see Japan.
>>28607848
DON'T
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>>28608287
Why not?
>>28605510
Do all meps look the same or is that the one in kc?
meg I need your help.
Today I was given my monthly non-promo counseling. No big deal, that's been standard for the last 11 months or so. However today there was an extra line on the counseling. I am going to be barred from reenlisting if I don't go to a promotion board.
Now I'm not butthurt, and I ETS in about 11 months. But is there anything I need to be wary of in order to protect myself? Is being barred inherently a negative thing? Or should I just keep on keeping on until I separate?
>>28600127
Going to France in a month to join FFL
Tell me how much i'm fucked, /k/ucks
>>28608671
why haven't you been promoted anon?
>>28608677
>he fell for the mob meme
>>28608677
If you're in pretty good shape and know how to listen you'll be okay
>>28608671
Not going to affect your bennies if that is what you're worried about. Commanders can bar you pretty much whenever they feel like it, it is just that most don't bother.
If it's feasible, I'd just go to the board and get promoted though. Looks better on your civvy resume if nothing else.
>>28608677
>Going to France in a month to join FFL
>Tell me how much i'm fucked, /k/ucks
There was an anon a couple of threads ago who was in. He did not recommend it.
Also, they only take about 10% of applicants.
You're not fucked at all, since you're probably not going to make it.
How likely would it be to get found out for lying about a mental illness
>>28608985
We already know.
Just waiting for you to enlist so we get that sweet $100,000 fine from your fraudulent enlistment
>>28608985
How about... No.
25b, 25q, 25n, 35t, or 94f?
>>28609159
35T>25B>25N>25Q>94F
Also 35Q if you like to computer.
