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>implying anyone uses IRC
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If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.
Resources:
>Armyranger.con
For Ranger info, obviously.
>Shadowspear.com
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.
>http://www.corpsman.com
For Navy Corpsman info.
>http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-Recon
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.
>http://www.uscg.org
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.
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Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
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Ask questions, answer questions, bitch about recruiters, accuse each other of stolen valor. Just keep it contained to this general.
First for 11B madmen
Well tomorrow is my last full day as a civilian for the next 6 years.
Saying goodbye to family and friends is definitely not fun.
>>28588236
Prepare for the worst dorms in the air force during tech school. And always remember, no matter what anyone else says, 331 TRS IS the toughest squadron.
>>28557930
I'm so sorry I couldn't get to you man. What do you want to know about the job?
>>28588282
The DLI dorms are really bad? Did you go there before ? It would suck to have to have a shit dorm for 64 weeks
CTN3 here waiting to go riot
AMA
>>28588363
I know that you will be in the dorms at the 344 TRS for a little while, before moving on to a different base for follow on training
Not 64 weeks tho. Just for the love of God, pay attention in aircrew fundamentals
>>28588382
is Bourbon is better than vodka in winter?
Did any officers here have cold feet before going to OCS?
I just can't shake the thought that I might buckle in the heat of the moment, that's scarier to me than any of the PT combined.
>>28588989
Do what all the other officers do - people an arrogant prick who never admits you're wrong
Hey /k/ I'm thinking of doing drone stuff and I want to know what the qalifications are and where should go? Also when the next big conflict comes along can I transfer to a different branch and I have glasses so does that disqualify me for that?
>>28586069
Do you get paid every time someone clicks these links?
>>28589737
No, it's to provide information to anyone who reads these threads. No one person posts these threads.
>>28588282
Well now I'm specifically leaning towards 1A8X2
I get vague info online that they are aircrew and operate intelligence equipment, but can you tell me anymore of what they do? Also if you think it's a good job and worth doing would be nice too
1A9X1 looks pretty cool too, do you like it?
Sorry for being all over the place
>>28581262
You will see faster progress if you switch to doing a more difficult form of your exercises instead of doing 100+ easy ones. For pushups, diamond pushups, wide hands, archer pushups, etc. are all options for a more difficult variant. For squats, try bulgarian split squats, shrimps, and pistol squats (those are doable -> difficult -> very hard, in that order). You should still be doing situps in order to practice the form but planks and plank variants, leg raises, and russian twists are all better core workouts.
>>28582557
If you have a pullup bar (or a straight tree branch, or extremely strong fingers) you can do hanging leg raises. You can also do a different leg raise laying on your back. You can hold weights to make russian twists more difficult, and if you google for them there are a lot of plank variants (one leg off the ground, opposite arm/leg both off the ground, on your side using just one arm/leg, on your side with your top leg in the air, etc.) that work all the way around your core and can make it very difficult if you're advanced.
I'm leaving it up to you guys to google form for anything you don't know, and remember to use strict form in all exercises.
Very Lewd.
Dealing with posterior shin splints? Can't even run 50m without it aching
Cause is most likely that I've been sedentary for years and pushed myself too hard. I felt it get sore and just thought it was DOMS but after one day of pushing myself super hard on a treadmill through the pain then I stopped and felt an immediate sharp pain that made my hobble around
I've rested it and iced it for about 5 days now. I tried deadlifts the other day but even that flared it up a bit. I'm planning on switching all running to biking and I may try some other cardio that has no impact. I'm just going to continue normal progression on my resistance training.
Is this a good idea?
Could I re-enlist in the army with re-enlistment code 3?
>>28589995
Yes.
>>28589983
Motrin/ibuprofen it like a motherfucker. Also, stretch your legs twice a day, it helped for me.
Who Charlie rock here.
You know the one. The one with the cat.
>>28589983
Keep resting, keep icing, this >>28590006
I can jog a little over three and a half miles without stopping to walk and can do forty pushups in a row. Am I gonna be half-ass prepared for basic?
>>28590605
Well, you won't be the sloppiest guy in Basic, but you won't be a PT stud either. If you don't look like a disgusting fatbody you should blend right in.
UT3 SEABEEs ready to get out of the Navy
Been in 2011 June
>>28590742
More of a skelly, been trying to build some mass over the past few months. Blending in is what I'm going for, I don't want any DS to know my name.
>>28588382
Nobody knows what that is. Keep it that way.
>>28590772
are they slowly phasing out seabees?
>>28588382
you ION senpai
>>28588382
>>28590957
and if you are is as cool as it sounds? is CTN as cool as it sounds?
Going to MEPS today for the Air Force, looking forward to my penis inspection tomorrow. I got a 91 on my practice ASVAB, hoping for 3D0X4, 3d0x2, 3D1x2 or 1A8X2.
From what I understand that whole "enlisted global hawk pilot" thing isn't ready yet, otherwise I'd put in for RPA pilot.
>>28591040
Also another thing, my recruiter seemed great and told me that I don't actually have to list an open category of specific number of jobs, that there was no regulation for it. He just said not to point back to him when they ask where I learned it. Could this fuck me in some way if I tried doing this? Has anyone else done it? I'd mainly just not want to list an open category.
I have to live in the UK for 3 years before I can go to uni (even though I am a citizen)
should I join the British army for 4?
>>28591077
if you put down general airman or whatever, guess what you'll get
>>28589832
Couple hours late, but that is helpful. I'll start to increase the difficulty of the exercises, start with diamond and move to archer when I get better at them and start doing planks and leg raises. I can definitely feel the difference already.
Really fucking stupid question actually, but in basic when they say situps, do they mean the "to your knees" variety, or do they mean crunches?
Am I fucked if I can't run a mile without stopping and can only do 20 continuous pushups? I've been sedentary for a long time.
5'9 190lbs
>>28591372
sure, why not
>>28592210
might be some issue with residency requirements as I look into it
>>28592136
Yes but they'll kick your ass until you get better. I recommend you really think on enlisting. I joined to fast and I'm regretting it.
>>28592226
not an expert on UK regulations but for Europe in general, if you are a resident and have citizenship and preferably come from another EU or NATO country it should be fine.
>>28592386
the way its written on the website is confusing, it says 'if you are a citizen of a commonwealth nation you need to have been a resident of the UK for 5 years prior'. Now I am a citizen of the UK which is a commonwealth nation, right?
>>28592386
>>28592416
ok I found some people talking about it, and it doesnt seem to be an issue as long as I have a UK passport
>>28592237
is that you 13f
>>28592136
You're over the weight limit. I'm 5'9 also and they told me the max weight is 180
I'm only 155 though so I'm fortunate
>>28592136
>>28592855
dude 195 is the 6'2" weight limit. I'm 6'2" and 195 and the recruiter told me to stop eating so i don't have to get a waiver
>>28592855
If it's navy then limit for 5'9" is 186. Course we have gentler fatter rules now for passing BCA (but getting put on FEP) where your waist can be 39".
>>28591040
>looking forward to my penis inspection tomorrow
I went to Miami MEPS for the Marines and the guy there just felt around my groin region for hernias.
Took a gander at my asshole and didn't feel around in there. Maybe because I've never shaved my ass crack in my entire life. Must've not have been an issue since he let me proceed with the rest of the stuff.
Friends at my RSS weren't so lucky, fingerbang-wise.
>>28591587
To your knees. Each branch prefers slightly different form for pushups and situps (elbows slightly more in or out, hands behind your head or on your chest, etc) but you do a full situp for all of them
>>28592237
I've thought pretty long about this. Appreciate the input. I'm trying to get somewhat in shape before enlisting.
>>28592855
>>28592889
I'm aware of the weight limit, I believe it's either 180 or 185. I weighed 270 a year ago, 20 more pounds shouldn't be too stressful. Thanks for the input.
I just graduated college. Should I join the air force if I don't want to find a job?
>>28593326
what's up fit bro, question: are doing russian twists and bicycle crunches a good overall core workout (on top of sit-ups?) For some reason planks take a really long time for me to feel the burn and these exercises seem more effective.
>>28589961
>same initial
So, after that they get torn apart? You yanks are brutal.
>>28589787
could you correct armyranger.con to armyranger.com next time? I hate seeing .con every time i enter these threads.
Anyone else interested in 18x?
Been rucking my ass off lately.
I got my pushups up to 75 in 2 minutes
60-something sit ups in 2 minutes
Haven't timed my 2 mile run yet
Still have a few weeks to improve
Already passed the physical
Doing paper work for a waiver
>>28593749
I would say so. How long does it take for you to feel the burn when planking? Make sure you have really strict form, lazy form when planking can add a minute or more to how long you can hold it, and if youre advanced you can likely go several minutes, so it might just take a while for you to feel the burn. There are also a lot of more difficult plank variants you can find online.
>>28593801
We had a ranger recruiter come in and talk to us and he said 18x ain't shit.
>>28594087
you 17 senpai?
>>28586069
>the bootlicker parasites have their own thread
>meanwhile there can be /k/ related threads because muh /pol/
>>28593417
yay another babykiller!
>>28594159
A what
>>28593883
Thanks, I'll check them out. I tried incorporating them into my daily routine after push-ups/pull-ups but I find that my arms are generally the first thing to feel sore, perhaps I should just do them separate from the other excercises. I'll make sure my form is solid as well.
>>28594087
Of course a Ranger would say that you nigger.
He's trying to get more rangers.
No shit he's going to talk down on SF.
@28594189
heres your reply, wont even give you a (you)
>>28594410
look at this self righteous parasite
>>28594189
>>28594654
What's with this hippy?
Is he in all these threads?
>>28593770
Not him, but I'm the one that made the OP
I'm embarrassed desu, I'll fix it next thread.
Also if anyone has any other links they feel would be helpful tell me so I can add it in
>>28594189
>Air Force
>Killing anything ever
Get fucked, commie
>>28594701
We usually have one or two every thread.
Maybe its the same guy, or other liberal homosexuals have invaded /k/
>>28594701
sometimes we get these guys, or the accidental derailers like 13F. then the ebin memers from ARG spam thank you for your cervix. shits hilarious desu senpai
im fucking wheezing and coughign after running 2 miles in 60f and i can normally run 6-7 miles in "normal weather"
fucking florida man
what am i supposed to do now
>>28595390
Just take it easy in that hear and humidity.
Keep running but stay hydrated.
South AZ here.
Sometimes I have to run in 115f
Sure I can only run for a fraction of normal but I keep running and stay hydrated.
>>28595390
>Decided to get into shape because of these threads
>Been ruining for 25-30 minutes (No idea on distance) every day
>It's Alaska and some of that running was in single digits, all of it below freezing
>In PT gear and a light hoodie
In all honesty, I'm still glad I'm not you, fuck humidity. Hang in there man.
Any 35G's on?
Going to MEPS on Thursday
>>28595562
>tfw moved from Alaska to Florida
Florida is literally hell on Earth. You triggered me. I want to see mountains and snow again, and be able to go outside without getting my pantlegs and shoes covered in those annoying sticker things.
>>28595592
I'm so, so sorry. I didn't know man.
If it makes you feel any better you're wrong, Hawaii is actually hell on earth.
>>28595529
>>28595562
wait im used to running in 80F and 100% humidity
its the cold thats killing me
im just not used to anything under 70F
i dont even have thermals or anything to wear for running in cold besides a hoodie too big for me.
>>28595565
just your AIT beer buddy
>>28595645
to add on, im sure i'd have to run in that temperature regularly in basic but shit how can i train for that when its never cold here? i never even thought of this.
fucking florida, man no wonder everyone hates us
>>28595645
Huh, Alaska guy here, I fucking love running in the cold. Anything below 30 and above -10 is perfect.
>That's -1 to -23 for you Celsius weirdos
Just roll with some sweat pants, sneakers with ice cleats, and a thin hoodie.
>>28595711
I think you may be fucked son. There isn't any time of the morning it's cool out or anything?
>>28595711
Running in the cold is a lot easier than running in the heat and humidity, you just have to suck it up and embrace the sting.
Fucking shin splints guys.
How long should I take a complete break from running?
I'm still going to ruck, cycle, and elliptical
>>28595815
I don't have an answer for you, but I'm kinda suffering with you
>Woke up feeling like someone put me in a leg lock and bent my knee the wrong way
>Can barely put weight on it without pain
>No more running for a while
>No fucking idea what happened
>>28595815
Wouldn't rucking exacerbate shin splints? Why are you rucking anyways? They teach you how to do that shit properly, from what I've read it's pretty easy to fuck your joints if you're doing it wrong.
>>28595669
Well hello again.
MOS? Ship date?
>>28595909
35G, don't know yet
>>28595765
no its perfect in the early morning and night, a cool 70F and 80% humidity
its in fucking rhode island too, shit
maybe ill just milk the cold this week and run as early as i can from now on
>>28595799
youre right i just gotta get used to it. fucking coughing and lungs burning, so much easier in hot and humid for me i guess.
>>28595815
Until it doesn't hurt anymore.
Stop rucking, and I would suggest being careful on the elliptical as well. If you have a gym membership, you can run up and down the lanes in the pool. When you resume running, stay away from hard surfaces when possible, and take it slow.
And for fuck's sake, like I say every thread, don't run every day. Too many people in these threads try to go from whalemode to running 5-7 days a week. Shit needs to be in the OP template.
>>28595968
Oh thats right. Wont be shipping until May 30th myself. But AIT is so long, you never know. Could be there the same time.
>>28595866
I'm rucking to prepare for 18x.
When I ruck my splints don't flare up at all so I doubt its doing any more damage.
>>28596047
Freezing temp lung burn is the best
>that syrup thick spit
>that "I just got kicked in the mouth" sensation
>the buuuuuurn
I don't think I could run without it.
>>28596077
No shit, people just need to fucking start with Couch to 5k, three runs a week and incremental progress.
>>28596105
>18x
Of course you are.
It doesn't matter if it's doing more damage, it's not letting you heal. Pushing yourself hard, and hurting yourself in the process is not going to get you into shape faster. Shin splints can halt your progress for 3-6 weeks.
Let me guess, you've got a ship date, and you're in nowhere near the right shape for 11X let alone 18X?
>>28592505
just go to a recruitment center and talk to them and you will get straight answers
>>28596256
Passed physical, no ship date
And I'm in pretty fucking good shape
Good guess though
>>28596335
APFT score?
>>28596335
Let's just say I'm skeptical about the physical abilities of someone who has to ask a Ugandan stamp collecting newsgroup what to do about shin splints.
>>28595565
FYI Prosser Village is "dry".
Also don't even risk drinking underage if you aren't 21. Not worth it, because they will slam you up the ass.
>>28594189
>yay another babykiller!
Lol.
Mad as fug senpai.
And you're a free rider on the benefits of your country being a global hegemon.
>>28596427
I'm the other guy, old enough to drink ;-)
>>28596425
I thought this was a Rhodesian firearm fetish forum?
just some questions
>why does everyone(vets) keep telling me not to join the military? whats so bad about it
>whats so bad about AAFES? I like it as a dependent?
>Whats wrong with the National Guard? The Texas guard or air guard seems cool
>Why can't soldiers carry sidearms on post?
>What do you hate most about the military?
Also a bunch of people keep stealing narcotics at the hospital at Fort Polk(BJAC?). my dad almost got dishonorably discharged and had sexual harassment charges(fake) thrown on him because he tried to investigate. How does shit like this happen?
>>28596427
During AIT? I wont even risk it.
Talking about my background check? Is that really an issue?
>>28596659
>why does everyone(vets) keep telling me not to join the military? whats so bad about it.
If you join, you have to have the right reason for joining. "Being a war hero" is not the right reason, since the likelihood of being a war hero is slim to nil.
Then there's the low pay and the sometimes insanely frustrating workplace culture. (i.e. this guy's getting a promotion over you because, despite you being better at your job, he can do more pullups.)
>whats so bad about AAFES? I like it as a dependent?
Slow service and shit customer service, basically.
>Whats wrong with the National Guard? The Texas guard or air guard seems cool
Nothing at all. Some guys in the National Guard seem to think they're the same as active duty personnel, but they're the exception rather than the rule, and they'd probably be assholes for other reasons if they were active duty.
>Why can't soldiers carry sidearms on post?
Are you kidding? There is no reason FOR a soldier to carry a gun on base unless he's going to the range or he's on guard duty. Is he going to work? He doesn't need a gun there. Is he going back to the barracks? He doesn't need a gun there.
>What do you hate most about the military?
Looking back at it, probably the thing that bugged me the most was the command environment that meant you were just playing a game of cover-your-ass instead of doing your job. I disliked the way a lousy commander's attitude quickly seeped into everyone else in his command.
>>28596425
It's an injury mate
>>28594087
I mean, most people who want to be SF probably would rather be rangers but don't know the difference
Is officer pay decent?
Like am I going to regret joining the military instead of doing something with my degree?
>>28596960
>Is officer pay decent?
Median starting salaries in 2015 with Bachelor's degrees in the following fields:
Business: $49,035
Engineering: $64,367
Liberal arts and Humanities: $36,237
Salary of a newly commissioned 2nd Lieutenant: $34,862.40
So no, it's not great.
Are you going to regret it? That depends on what you want to get out of service. If it's for money, then yes, you will regret it.
>>28596870
thanks bud
I want to go as some form of service to my country. I might do police service here first and move on to the army. I dont need combat although i guess a tour would be """"cool""""
the sidearm thing was just odd to me because they're literally soldiers. Even civilians can carry sidearms
What does a combat engineer do? Why does every game arm combat engineers with Shotguns?
>>28594209
I regularly have my shoulders get tired before my core as well. Just try planks before pushups I guess.
>>28595562
Reminder that distance doesn't matter as long as you are running most of the time you're out. It's usually actually better to run slow so that you can get more time out of your workout- as long as you are running and not walking, you are getting a cardio benefit no matter how slow you are. Save the speed for speed work (which is still important, especially if you want to improve your time).
>>28595711
If you get good at running in the heat and humidity you will probably see your ability jump slightly when running in the cold. You'll get used to the cold in less than a week.
>>28595815
If you have shin splints, stop running and rucking until they don't hurt anymore, and then wait one extra day, and then resume training. Also, don't fucking ruck if you don't know how, because you can mess yourself up. Best way to train for rucking before you learn how is to do squats/deadlift and go hiking. And whatever you fucking do don't go running with weight on your back.
>>28597028
The Engineer is a soft-spoken, amiable Texan with an interest in all things mechanical. He specializes in constructing and maintaining Buildings that provide support to his team, rather than fighting at the front lines, making him the most suitable for defense. The Engineer's various gadgets include the Sentry Gun, an automated turret that fires at any enemy in range, the Dispenser, a device that restores the health and ammunition of nearby teammates, and Teleporters that quickly transport players from point A to point B.
>>28596960
>>28597013
Officer pay is quite solid when taking into account that you don't have to pay for food or housing, especially for a single man right out of college. It's really important to consider the amount you save on food and housing when looking at military compensation.
>>28597022
Soldiers having guns everywhere is a meme born out of movies. Even on FOBs they don't have weapons with them unless they're on guard or about to go on patrol. On a stateside base you will only have a weapon if you are at the range.
>>28597028
>why does every game arm combat engineers with shotguns
gameplay variety
>>28597079
dispenser down
>>28597013
>Salary of a newly commissioned 2nd Lieutenant: $34,862.40
That's just the base pay, m8. Once you include other entitlements, it's significant higher than that. Varies by location.
>>28597084
>Officer pay is quite solid when taking into account that you don't have to pay for food or housing,
Yes, it's true there are perks, but it's still small potatoes considering the figures listed are the MEDIAN salaries. That means half the people make even more than that.
If you have a degree that OCS likes (basically any STEM) you are all but certain to be taking an enormous cut into your earnings potential in exchange for a commission.
But then, no one becomes an officer for the money.
>>28597084
>Officer pay is quite solid when taking into account that you don't have to pay for food or housing
It's very unusual to get meal card and government housing as a new officer once you're out of training. You'll receive allowances for housing and food and when it comes to the housing allowance, unless you're an idiot, you will spend much less on housing than you receive in your allowance.
HOWS THE PUSSY SITUATION AT FORT BRAGG?
This is an important question which is why this is in all caps. I also used a click bait picture of a woman who may look underaged. But that's not important. What's important is the pussy game status at Ft Bragg? Is everyone forced to accept the left overs after Pat McNamara's clones come rolling through?
>>28597042
> your ability jump slightly when running in the cold
hopefully because i cant train in cold since its literally never sub 70f here
i can run in 70-90f/80-100%humidity just fine dunno what temperature training would be at ocs
>>28597157
Try to get stationed at levenworth.
>>28597157
do you like fat black women or fat white women or mexicans? take your pick
>>28597157
Unfortunately, the pussy at Bragg comes mostly from women who also look like Pat McNamara.
>>28596659
>why does everyone(vets) keep telling me not to join the military? whats so bad about it
Its the best thing you can do and also the worst, and no one wants to take blame or see someone have a bad experience (getting injured, breaking down mentally etc).
Or it could be that they really regret doing it, they generally dislike it or they don't think you will fit in there. Or that you are going there for the wrong reason or without a reason.
>>28595815
ripped from gymnastic bodies:
>This isn't entirely accurate... 'Shin splints' are merely a 'Jo Bloggs' term for acute pain in the Ant.Tib. A less than adequate mobility in the ankle joint plus a weak base of support (collapsed arches) results in a bad relationship of how the recipricol inhibition of the lower leg muscles work.
>The biggest problem I see is a tightness of the gastroc/soleus/post.tib. This makes movements like gate, lunging and squatting a problem since with a tight calf, we are missing dorsi flexion!...This can lead to or stem from a plethora of movement compensations upstream.
>If you have tight calfs and you try and sit in a full squat position, arms folded over your knees, you will notice that you use your Ant.Tibs to stop yourself falling backwards. In this position, we get an unwanted over-activity of the Ant.tib (and peroneals) and an inhibition of the posterior calf muscles. I've had rugby players who when performing movements like the deadlift/front squat/power cleans complain of anterior shin pain just because the muscle was constantly over-active in dorsi flexion...they would temporarily relieve it by sitting on their heals and stretching the Ant.Tib.
>Now, how does this apply?? Well, to maintain the length tension relationship between muscles...you need...yes you guessed it....correct length!!...THIS IS KEY!
>if you are someone who has Ant.Tib pain, exercising this muscle is the 'last thing' you want to do! It is not under-developed, but it's overactive and compensating for bad synergy due to tight calfs, I don't like the word 'stretch' so i will say LENGTHEN THE CALF's to improve dorsi flexion AND LENGTHEN THE ANT.TIB to inhibit the over-activity.
>You will know when balance has been restored because the 'burning' and 'splinting' sensation will disappear. ;)
>>28597192
3 more years of jerking off in dark rooms it is
I can't seem to find the IRC channel? does anyone have a direct link?
Man this thread must have gone to shit while I haven't had the time to browse these past couple of weeks, and man have they flown. In case anybody is still here who remembers I was the guy who got screwed for his MOS and now is 35F. GI Jane edition? Did some wooks come up and shitstorm the place, or wtf happened? not even kidding, I am genuinely curious.
>>28597157
Your choice between tubby black women, or chicks that have seen more dick than alexis texas
>>28597028
Their mission is to clear battlefield obstacles. Traditionally that means breaching barb wire with bangolores and breaching doors. They also are used for large scale clearing operations of dedicated minefields.
They are generally given simple explosives knowledge (outside of those who have been to master breached school, I've never met one who uses MDI or RC) and drilled to react in support of infantry missions.
The GWOT has expanded their mission to clearing routes of IEDs, mainly by driving huskies and by using arm attachments on larger vehicles to dig them up and destroy them. Engineers are trained to destroy obstacles, not diffuse them, so they are used often for mark and clear or expedient IED removal.
They generally use normal service rifles. They use shotguns in vidya for vidya gameplay reasons.
>>28597291
13F and hippies, this time. how you been man?
>>28597316
>chicks that have seen more dick than alexis texas
That describes every chick with decent BMI ever.
>>28597377
maybe on average
>>28597344
Pretty wild man, FSTP is pretty much a joke. i had to look up all the things I'll need to remember at BCT. I ship on the 24th this month, and I still haven't been taught the 'drilling basics' so I have taken to as much PT as I can do and researching things where I can. I accidentally must have twisted a muscle doing some situps and that pain hasn't gone away, but other than that I feel ready.
>>28597205
I think having a good experience or a bad experience in the military (excluding, of course, extenuating circumstances like battlefield trauma) depends a lot on what your expectations are.
Those who enjoy their time in the service went in with realistic expectations or no expectations whatsoever.
Those who have already written their entire war-story in their heads before they sign their contract receive nothing but disappointment.
Case in point, two of my friends in the Marines:
One signs an open contract out of high school. Gets a job as a refrigeration mechanic. Two tours in Iraq. Fixed air conditioners. Generally enjoyed the experience.
The other signs as 0800 (Field Artillery). Was going to be a Forward Observer, then JTAC, then join an ANGLICO unit. He had it all planned out all the way down to his nickname. It was going to be "Priest" because he called down the Thunder. (It really was that cringe.)
Yeah, well he ended up being an Artillery Operations Man, which is basically a gofer. His nickname ended up being "Rash", which, if I remember correctly had something to do with the BattleToads NES game. He was always a resentful little pill and didn't put too much effort in his job because all his plans went to shit.
How do you know what position you're going to get? How you do on your ASVAB?
Could I just tell the recruiter: "Send me where you need me"?
>>28597441
are you feelin dangerous?
>>28597517
Just say these two magical words: OPEN CONTRACT. And the universe will show you your destiny.
>>28597479
>priest
you hung out with this guy on purpose? >>28597517
lurk moar senpai
>>28597517
>Could I just tell the recruiter: "Send me where you need me"?
Sure. Do you enjoy cooking?
>>28597548
I am wondering what to expect, because I previously had my sights set on Benning, and now had to re-evaluate my position. I am no PT Stud, but I don't think I'll be in the rear either, so hopefully I'll be fine. Been studying up on a lot of Land Nav and other cool things such as Ranger Tracking beads, to really do well for the team if no one else studied for it. Did that other guy make 68W with Op40?
>>28586069
Was in the army, worked intel, did deployment to AF, came home and got out. No ragrets.
Been thinking of joining guard or reserve, I do miss the uniform and actually doing shit when there was shit to be done. Honestly spent most of my time post-deployment playing BF3.
To all you indecisive fucks thinking about it - what do you have going for you right now vs the next 4 years at least? Is shit grim? See yourself "Eh, maybe enrolling in college?" Enlist. Join up, get a MOS you can transfer out into the civilian world.
Unless you are legit fucked in the head or whatnot, just fucking enlist. Basic training is the worst part, but that bitch lasts 9 weeks, and you might even have fun (I did, after week 3 when the DS started going after the dickwads by themselves instead of the whole platoon.)
Now I'm back in college, making over $3000 a month just going to fucking school. Hell, while you are in, knock out your GE requirements. Army pays for all of your college courses.
>im too fat!
I was 250lb fat fuck when I enlisted, and I still passed.
>I'm too dumb...
You have to be fucking retarded not to pass the asvab. Literally a god damn mongoloid or autistic to fail it.
>I can't deal with being yelled at!
Lasts for red phase (first 3 weeks) in basic training, after that as long as you aren't a *complete* fuck-up, you won't get yelled at.
>b-b-but I dunno...
If you live at home and have no direction *at fucking all* just do it. Don't want the full commitment? Go guard or reserve, and play army once a month. Decide you love that shit? Go full time active duty.
>>28597042
>especially if you want to improve your time)
I need the city to stop turning the running track into a fucking 1/4 mile speed skating rink so I can check my mile tome reliably every week.
They no shit flood and drive a zamboni on all the running tracks to turn them into skating rinks in the winter. What the fuck Alaska.
What is route clearance like for Combat Engineer? I'm going 12B and was curious if I'd even see deployment to the middle east.
>>28597695
If combat is in the title, there's a 99% chance you'll go overseas. However, with this huge god damn drawdown, if you *do* go overseas, it'll likely be Korea.
>>28597661
none of the regulars come in much. our mvp atm is 48G, he seems to have a broad spectrum of military experience. Ricky stopped by last thread, haven't seen the medic or novemberrain recently. some SF guy stopped by a few threads back to tell everyone they suck
then there's 13F.. i'm sure he'll stop in soon for his nightly derailment
>>28597717
Would Kuwait be a huge possibility as well? My recruiter keeps mentioning that place and I always hear bad things about it. (Hot as fuck, cant leave base, etc)
>>28597670
good advice man, thanks
1N1X1?
>>28597670
>>28597759
sorry, mistook AF for air force, what was your MOS?
>>28597733
>haven't seen the medic
Who is the medic?
>>28597791
68w guy telling all 11b to go 68w opt 40
Open PMC Recruitment When
>>28597733
>some SF guy stopped by a few threads back to tell everyone they suck
Really? Got a link?
>>28597717
Lolno.
>>28597695
RCP sucks for pretty much everybody. You're in a convoy crawling along at a snail's pace along a known route for hours.
Combat Engineers are going to be driving the Husky up front. That's the designated vehicle that's most likely to get blown up.
Other engineers will be in the middle in a Buffalo. That's up about the most heavily armored vehicle in the convoy. Somebody will be driving it, somebody else (NCO) is sitting in the passenger seat taking care of communications. Another guy in the back will be operating the arm. If there is a possible IED, the buffalo will drop the arm and dig up the ground like a motherfucker. If there is an IED, it either gets blown in place or EOD deals with it.
Extremely doubtful you'll be doing any Afghan or Iraq RCP missions. The GWOT is in heavy drawdown and there really aren't many land routes being used anymore by the US.
You'll likely be in garrison, meaning similar life to infantry's day-to-day in garrison, and a training refocus on conventional warfare (because the military is stupid and thinks asymmetric warfare will actually go away).
>>28597829
11B(angedYourMom), check archives lol
>>28597733
13F made it? Haha that's awesome! has he had any stories about his hell in basic yet? Ranger Rick, right? What's he doing now? Man I can't stand most SF guys, they always try to act so badass, and none of it ever seems to be a real part of their character. So it would seem that alot of the good ones have moved on, and now we are stuck with the dregs, who don't lurk and shit up the threads. What is your MOS and ship date, btw?
I have a small dick, what are the chances I'll get shit in BCT for that?
>>28597807
He was the guy in the 82nd Airborne, right?
>>28597853
BCT is just like prison. On the first day, just find the biggest, toughest guy and start sucking his dick.
>>28597844
"made it" kind of. currently being chaptered out. I'm going to MEPS a week from today, 35G. no idea when i'm going to basic, recruiter said it could be a while
>>28597750
I fucking loved stopping there and would have enjoyed being deployed there.
>Delicious fucking food
>No mortar attacks
>Good internet
It's all the pay of a combat deployment with none of the risks and all the amenities of CONUS.
>>28597853
The Army will pay for cock enlargement surgery, in part for situations like this. Ask your recruiter about it.
>>28597837
Do combat engineers ever get attached to infantry units? I was looking over different course info and I'm still not sure what I wanna do.
http://www.wood.army.mil/usaes/cehc_training.html
>>28597853
How small flaccid and how small erect?
>>28597841
>11b
>SOF
Uh... are you retarded?
>>28597517
Don't do this "send me where..." shit. It'll be a shit position. Go do something you find interesting. I wanted a top secret clearance, so I chose intel. I got to spy on badguys then drop hellfire missiles on them.
>>28597479
Your good or bad experience depends entirely on your unit. Some are good, some are bad, some are mediocre. Mine in 306th MI out of Ft Hood was mediocre.
>>28588236
If it is indeed airforce, enjoy your 6 year vacation. Seriously.
>>28589088
Basically this. I was an E-4 and I was telling our company commander (Captain Cox, good guy but kind of inept) how shit was ran.
>>28589983
>>28590006
Careful with shin splints. Buddy of mine ended up breaking his tibia in basic training and got med boarded out cuz of it. Theres a fine line between "hooah" and "stupid."
>>28590605
You'll do fine. Keep your run under 15:30 and you'll be squared away. Do more sittups and crunches, they'll catch you by surprise.
>>28590794
They'll know your name regardless. But they'll either view you as being squared away and not worthy of attention, or as a fucked up sack of shit that they will rail on. Be the former.
>>28591040
Nuts'n'butts wasn't fun for anyone.
>>28591372
Go for it. Not sure if british army has a tuition assistance program, but talk to your recruiter aboot it.
>>28592136
I was fucked up from the get go, but I still passed. Going in, my run was 10:30. Now it's below 7 minutes.
>>28593417
Go enlisted first to get a feel then jump to officer.
>>28595562
Try South Carolina in the summer. You can practically swim in the air.
>>28595968
MAH NIGGA. 35G was my MOS. I went straight to Ft Hood to deploy to AF. Wanted to go to Europe but they only told *me* that I had to change my MOS or redeploy immediatly. I told them to get fucked and left to use the GI bill.
>>28597893
this anon asks the important questions
>>28597893
Imagine a 2inch buried in huge amounts of pubic hair. Its about 3-4 hard if I put the effort in.
Well tonight is my last night as a civilian for at least 6 years. Possibly more.
>>28597898
that was his name bro. his pics had his tabs and shit on his sleeves
>>28597919
Is that the meps hotel in boston?
>>28595565
>>28597919
Don't jump bro you got this.
>>28597940
Kansas city but it is meps hotel nonetheless.
Rooms aren't bad>>28597943
>>28597919
Portland?
>Going in as an officer in the Air Force
>Sex is a serious vice for me
Are female enlisted/junior officers going to be all up in my shit without solicitation? If so does picking an AFSC that is male only put me out of the line of fire?
>>28597908
tell me more about day to day 35G. i was really on the fence about 35G or N, but i think i made the right choice. validate my decision, anon
>>28597952
How's your roommate? Cute?
>>28597930
Fuck. Is there any way you can link me? I'm on mobile and I need a laugh.
Will I get shit on if I do EOD?
Which branch isn't the worst? I hear Navy EOD does neat stuff.
What are my odds of getting blown up? I think the pressure would be fun.
Also Why is JAG shit? I hear lots of people complain about it
>>28597967
I've been here for 4 hours and haven't seen him,only his bag.
Although I'm not into guys so I won't know anyways.
>>28597889
If you are interested in ordnance go EOD, they nerd out about it in much more depth and you have a far higher chance of getting attached to a spooky mission.
That link you have, when you boil it down, is about marking and clearing and deliberate minefield. It's a slow, unfun process which doesn't have enough of a cool payoff.
Engineers do get attached to infantry though, to answer your question. Usually on RCPs, for example, they are integrated with an infantry unit which provides the gun trucks.
Outside of Special Operations and a very select few Master Breacher combat engineers attached to Focused-Target-Forces, I saw almost no dismounted Engineers in Afghanistan. They were all either mounted, or stuck training the Afghans the basics of metal detecting.
>>28597777
35G, geospatial imagery analyst. I'm monitoring this thead a bit, because I know firsthand about folks who are terrified of joining but want to. I'm here to ease fears. It's really not as bad as movies and shit make it out to be.
>>28597977
I'll look for you
Is JTAC all its cracked up to be?
Am I retarded for wanting to join the Texas Military?
also what do merchant mariners do? As far as i can tell they escort convoys.
>>28597998
Why be JTAC when you can be CCT?
>>28597952
I like how some meps hotels share the same type of architectural design, had it been in boston I would of driven to take your anal virginity it would of made you a better soildeir.
>>28597979
>Will I get shit on if I do EOD?
You will get shit on regardless of your MOS. I am not exaggerating. It literally does not matter what you do or who you are, you will get shit on.
If you can get through BUD/S without breaking a sweat and become a SEAL, you'll still be the noob SEAL. You will get shit on.
>>28597291
I'm a 35t at Bragg.>>28597291
>>28597965
In garrison, expect to.. really do fuckall all day. Pre-deployment, we kind of hung around the company area. I had a sketchbook and nintendo DS and shit with me at all times cuz we had nothing to do - and this is a company filled with 35F, N, and G.
On deployment, missions were ran usually 24/7 using drones to spy on badguys. we'd confirm badguy behavior and gave the OKAY to drop bombs and shoot missiles, assess damage, and recommend follow-up strikes using helicopters. Shit was cash. I had heard 35N was getting phased out anyway, I'm surprised it's taking this long. They are combining the two MOS's, but still calling it 35G.
>>28598018
Because I dont know the difference.
As far as I know, JTAC shows up all tacticool and gives coordinates for bombs
>>28598026
But I've never even lost my normal virginity and I am pretty sure I'm not bicurious. I mean if you were a big guy who could overpower me I might now have a choice kek.
>>28597750
You know when you open an oven and that blast of heat hits you in the face?
That's Kuwait.
>>28597991
Hey, thanks! Thats pretty cool of you.
>>28598013
>Texas Military
Do you mean the TX National Guard?
They are by far the worst Guard I've worked with. 0/10, would not join.
>>28598013
>Am I retarded for wanting to join the Texas Military?
No, as long as you're fully aware that the Texas Military is not the real military. It's not quite state militia-level LARPing, but if you tell someone you were in the military and it comes out it was the Texas Military, you should hope you're in Texas at the time, or you might inadvertently kill someone by literally making them laugh themselves to death.
>>28597750
I spent 3 days in Kuwait waiting for my RnR. Is it hot? Yup. Is it bad? Nah. They have plenty of things to do, gyms, USO, PX and so on.
>>28597980
It's too late for me I already signed my contract for 12B but I was really hoping to be in a combat zone, regardless it will still be a interesting experience. I just wasn't sure if there was any route I could take to experience that.
>>28598013
Texas Miliwhat huh? Don't do that shit. Do real military or bust.
>>28596726
If you are lucky and your CoC likes you (DO NOT ASSUME THIS IS TRUE JUST DON'T DO IT) you may spend 24 hours standing in the company area warning people about drinking underage.
But you can get in some deep shit.
Also, unless things have changed since I was there (they changed before I got there, I have a buddy who was there in 99) Prosser Village is "dry". So you can not have alcohol in the barracks even if you're of age. Prosser Village is the area where the barracks for the different MOS companies are located as well as the Muuuhhrreeeeen barracks (they have their Morse Code people there), as well as one of the DFACs, Military Clothing Sales (used to be a student bar in 99, BDE commanders daughter and her best friend got gang banged there apparently, then no more alcohol), the gym, and a shoppette. "8 Mile" is the trailer park next door where the other 35F company and some of the 35M people live. But IIRC they are considered part of Prosser and thus no alcohol.
>>28597956
>female enlisted
Not as much as you'd think. A lot of military women are way into people who are in control of them... that's why all women are hot for their drill instructors, no matter how ugly they are. It's a power thing.
Officers are typically 'that guy they see once in a while who is actually in charge but not VISIBLY in charge' and that doesn't seem to do it for them.
That's my theory, at least.
>junior officers
They won't give two fucks about you until you're senior to them. And officer to officer is all good relationship wise. Technically there's no rank limit either, although realistically people will think you're a douchebag if you're more than a couple O-grades apart.
>>28598033
i live in Fayetteville
>>28598051
i made the right decision, wicked
>>28597979
EOD is long and notoriously difficult. A guy I knew in AIT did EOD, go to the last month and double tapped on a test. Got removed from the course. That was... what, 11 months wasted? Don't quote me on time in, but that shit basically killed all his motivation to do well in the army after that.
>>28597871
Make sure you get that high score at MEPS, study like a motherfucker, and look up the duck walk; master that bitch. I got the coolest Liaison to talk with; he was legitimate ex- SF, part native american-part something saxon. Dude was listening to cuntry music to drown out the tinnitus he got in the 70's. I really should have gone and done this in '08, then I would have been with my peers instead of around so many dumb kids. The hotel was great, I was expecting a shitty rat place, but this was one of the nice ones across from SeaTac Airport.
>>28598125
That's good. I don't want to be an asshole, and that's easier when nobody gives me the opportunity to be an asshole.
>>28597979
>Will I get shit on if I do EOD?
Everybody gets shit on. Elaborate.
>Which branch isn't the worst? I hear Navy EOD does neat stuff.
I was Army, I liked it a lot, and got an extremely varied experience out of it. I've written at length the general differences between Navy and Army EOD before, but in short, the Army has more units and thus a much wider variety of units. They have "the" NBC unit who are a bunch of scientist, protective gear wearing nerds. They have dedicated Special Operations support units. They have other small and specialized units. There are a large number of "vanilla" EOD units which are sort of all purpose; these units will vary between supporting conventional and SOF in theater, and in the states are called to deal with domestic explosive hazards, go on SOF support rotations (I had a friend in a vanilla unit that got put on rotation and a month later I saw him with a beard and jeans riding around with SOF, and month after that he was back to conventional looks and mission). In general, vanilla Army EOD units focus on defusing IEDs and preserving as much of them as possible for intelligence reasons. There are SOF support army units, but the vanilla mission is usually deliberate defusal.
Navy EOD are smaller and they are all used as SOCOM support units. They have a much higher focus on mark & clear (walking around an IED or doing the minimum to disable it) to support SOF advancing on a target more important than collecting an IED. They roll lighter and faster, and are used also as breachers and such.
The focus on post-EOD training is different. Army guys are more likely to go to in-depth IED and ordnance courses and Navy are more likely to getting shooting-heavy training. Both get some of the other, but on the whole that's how it averages.
>What are my odds of getting blown up?
Everybody gets blown up a little bit. Usually it's not too bad. You've got high odds of some hearing loss, but keeping all your fingers and toes.
>>28598146
you'll do fine anon. Good on ya.
Also, post deployment, we had nothing at all to do. I spent about 6 months playing fuckin vidya games and going to the gym. Got swoll as fuck too.
>>28597291
>I was the guy who got screwed for his MOS and now is 35F.
What MOS were you originally enlisting for?
>>28597875
>>28598067
>>28598095
How's it compare to Korea though? If I get sent there I'd deal with it regardless
>>28598156
i'm older too, i think I'll have the same "kid" problem.
>>28598191
I personally didn't go to Korea, but some friends of mine did and had a blast. If you are a single male with no real financial responsibilities, have fun.
Stay away from the juice girls.
>>28598191
Never been to Korea, just saying not to worry about Kuwait or Qatar, sure you're on post but the post is cush as fuck and nobody is trying *hard* to kill you so that's a plus.
>That guy in the military who is raising the kid of someone else in the military
You aren't going to end up that guy? Are you, /k/?
>>28598225
Ever been to Manas?
You want a cush post, you go there. Holy fuck, combat pay *AND* a god damn bar. A BAR. WITH ALCOHOL.
Fuck you air force faggots and your luxuries.
>>28598231
Not married. Don't plan to get married until I'm out. Don't plan to knock up anyone's spouse.
>>28597441
Are you going to Sill? I'm shipping on the 25th, also 35F.
>>28598241
Yep, we had to swing through there on the way to afghanistan, I got kicked out of the massage parlor for no underwear.
>>28597868
>>28597882
These are the truth anon. Follow these advices plz.
>>28597919
my meps was 5 minutes away from home, wish i got a hotel
>>28598260
>Don't plan to knock up anyone's spouse.
Its what they are there for
>>28597829
>>28598071
http://boards.4chan.org/k/thread/28538102/meg#bottom
gotcha nigga. took a while, you owe me sex now
>>28598186
11x op40, passed on everything except eyes.
>>28598285
Depends, you got sexy abs?
>>28598306
you know this, maaaaaan
>>28598231
i'd hit it
>>28598271
Happens every time.
>>28598231
I'm aiming to BE that guy nigga
>>28598067
This.
When we stepped off the plane to ride the C130 into Iraq, this is what it felt like getting off the plane.
You get used to it really quickly, but fuck the first time it was like sticking my head in a fucking convection oven.
How many gang members will I run into while in the military?
>>28598356
>my wife's son
This phrase is fairly common within the enlisted corps.
>>28598262
Nope, Fort Jackson. Good luck to you, might see you in Fort Huachuca in May, though.
>>28598191
I loved Korea. There's lots to do.
The problem with Kuwait is that it has all the downsides of a deployment (trapped in a cage with limited supply of stuff to do) plus all the downsides of garrison (no mission = infinite time for bullshit). On the plus side, you'll save a bunch of money and probably spend lots of time at the gym.
>>28598390
Rip, good luck pal.
>>28598374
Read up. Search "military"
https://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/2011-national-gang-threat-assessment
If you are becoming an officer, just assume you are talking to a gang or supremacist group member when dealing with the enlisted guys.
>>28598300
You will not regret your choice. Former 35F, so I may be biased.
What made you choose F over M, G, or N/S?
anyone hear that war college podcast from reuters? is it good? i want to get into listening podcast shit
>>28598374
Enough. Lots of assholes join the military to escape that life, but they bring that shit with them anyone.
You can take the nigger out the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out the nigger.
>>28598231
Nope, not even once. If she has previously married, or had kids, it's a no-go. Don't fuck leftovers.
>>28598466
>Lots of assholes join the military to escape that life
Plenty also join specifically to take those skills back to their gang.
>>28598390
I went to Jackson. Never figured out why they called it "relaxin' jackson". All my DS's were infantry.
>>28598371
I remember reading an article talking to the Canadian troops in Afghanistan.
One of them said that the best moment of the day was the 5 minutes after you got back to base, and could take off your vest and all your gear. The reporters agreed.
>>28598466
I already assumed there would be a diverse type of people but I can't stand being around people who act ghetto and speak Ebonics. I'm not even racist at all.
>>28598521
you're going to LOVE the military
>>28598285
Man, I was expecting elitist shit talking on all the fatbodies, instead I gos what I have come to expect from any Ranger ever, frat house D-baggery
>>28598521
There was a few that obviously came from that kind of up bringing in Basic.
After BCT, I'm pretty sure they didn't last long. They always have an attitude or a chip on their shoulder and don't react well to authority.
>>28598521
Join the air force then. Army and Marines are filled with those parasites. Can't speak for Navy, I know of only 1 sailor and he's a bitch.
>>28598521
The US military is basically staffed by white trash and niggers.
>>28598540
exactly
>>28598421
It was the only one open at the time, they were going quicker than wildfire. I could have been a missile launcher (forget the MOS code) and it sounded fun, but reason took over and I chose 35F, I must have done well because the Liaison dude was very happy after the fact, and said after I cleared the background check that he enjoyed our experience, and now 'move out Private!' Would you please tell me what made you choose 35F?
Will they check my medical records if I have glasses? I took anti-depressants and went to the mental hospital for being "Anti-Social" and "Suicidal" all because my sister died in a car crash and I shut off everyone for a while.
>>28598536
Looking forward to the Army man.
>>28598580
I have seriously never met a ranger that wasn't like that. It's fucking annoying.
>>28598623
i started posting as 18b(angedyourdad) and he left. i guess he was expecting everyone to suck his dick or something, but an asshole is an asshole, even American heros i guess
>>28598623
Likewise, but goes double for Marines. Every marine I've met so far, apart from 2 I met while playing airsoft (you'd be surprised how many veterans play), were complete cockgobblers.
>>28598585
>Would you please tell me what made you choose 35F?
I originally wanted to do some combat arms job. I was 17, got a 96 AFQT, and had recruiters dick riding me and I was all "I want to do cool shit like in movies!".
A year later, when I went to MEPS, I had decided MI actually sounded like something I wanted to do but I had no clue what it actually was. So I chose CI Agent (35L). At the time 35L was still an initial entry MOS (they were in the process of switching it over to prior enlisted only). Got to MEPS, there were no slots left, so I asked what other MI MOS were left, and was told 35F.
Originally I hated it after I got out of AIT. I was still a moronic 19 year old so I wanted to shoot guns and blow stuff up (things stupid kids think combat arms guys get to do all day instead of police calling parking lots and sweeping rain).
Then I ended up going to some MOS related courses and deploying to two different commands at two different levels (J2 theater for Iraq, G2 ARCENT regional MENA) doing two very different missions. I realized not just that I was good at the job, but that I actually enjoyed it and that it was a very important job.
>>28598660
Seeing as there's still at least a 90% chance he was just making everything up anyway, he probably just went to bed because it was a school night.
Sitting in my hotel. Waiting to get tired. Shipping tomorrow. Wassup senpai?
