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This is fucking embarrassing. If this had happened to Imperial Japanese Army, they would have committed seppuku by now.
Anyway, what went wrong?
sounds like some sort of deliberate PR thing by obongo
didn't work out as he intended
Yawn
>>28547245
>If this had happened to Imperial Japanese Army, they would have committed seppuku by now.
But anon, their whole country surrendered.
>>28547245
>they would have committed seppuku
Yeah and that's why they still have US bases on their soil.
>>28547297
US is gonna surrender the whole of ME in less than 10 years. Just watch as KSA collapses and Kurds also take a large part of Turkey.
>MUH SUPERPOWAH
>MUH EXCEPTIONALISM
and then there's a bunch of guys surrendering on a boat....
>>28547245
>>28547326
>If this had happened to Imperial Japanese Army, they would have committed seppuku by now.
>All the honorable, strong men are culturally bound to commit suicide
>Wonder why you end up with a nation full of pussies when you make it have positive selection pressure (all the strong die, the weak reproduce)
>II. I will never surrender of my own free will. If in command, I will never surrender the members of my command while they still have the means to resist.
>>28547362
>run out of fuel
>need a tow
>Iranians show up first
>either start a huge fucking mess which they will all get fired over
>or just pose for a photo op before being released
that being said someone lost their job over this whole thing
>>28547362
Doesn't exactly count when you've broken the law and you're being arrested.
>>28547341
>IJA
>Honorable
If your culture makes you cannon fodder, and demands suicide before surrender, it is trash
They were basically isis with ships and planes
>>28547388
Doubt that.
>>28547427
Did you even check his dubs?
>>28547245
Because they should have shot at the Iranians and started a fucking war, right?
>>28547245
If you think they should have opened fire on the Iranians after having an engine failure and drifting into their waters, you are a fucking idiot and anybody like you should be subject to genocide. Why is starting WW3 preferable to accepting arrest because you made a mistake and getting released shortly after once the Iranian government figured out what happened? They were treated well and since this was the scene of a possible crime, of course they took evidence photos in case it became a big incident. Stop acting like children.
so having been dealing with a death in the family I have not been paying much attention to the news, and really only know about recent celebrity deaths thanks to friends poking me about it on social media
so what the shit am I looking at and what led to it?
>>28547427
>implying
Someone fucked up. Either it was an officer calculating the amount of fuel needed, or a maintenance boot not fixing something right or an officer not inspecting something right. When the navy finds out who they're either getting demoted, or told to retire so that whatever happened doesn't happen again.
And I guarantee you that had those guys fired on Iranian boats, they would have started a pissing match that would had gone all the way up to the CoS and Obama. Which is a no-no especially if they had started a direct conflict between Iran and Saudi Arabia.
>>28547488 read >>28547388
>>28547488
American boat got borked and iranians detained them
>>28547495
People don't get fired for mechanical failures.
>>28547480
You don't get arrested by foreign militaries, you get captured.
If you think the only options were surrender and opening fire immediately, you are a fucking idiot and anybody like you should be sent to Iran.
>>28547507
Are you fucking stupid?
>>28547507
they do when said failure leads to bad press
>>28547245
US NAVY ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>28547328
All except the oil fields anon.
We'll hold onto the oil until we pump it dry.
Who gives a shit about turkey anyway.
That goes for pretty much the whole sand box.
>>28547507
People usually get fired for fucking up.
And this, was a classic fuck up.
>>28547518
>>28547515
You're assuming an awful lot of shit, which you can't prove. This is pointless to discuss.
>>28547511
Yes you do. The difference between them is capture is that capture is deprivation of liberty, and arrest is deprivation of liberty for breaking the law, which they've done.
>>28547427
>US boat accidentally runs into Iranian waters
>boots onboard fire on Iranian coast gaurd
>Iran sends their navy
>they shoot that too
>escalates into a larger conflict
>US-Iran war defacto starts without any funding
>Congress livid
>Obama suddenly rope-a-doped into a war he had no intention of ever starting
>everyone mad at everyone else
>Russia goes to back Iran and tells the US to leave
yeah, this is a situation the navy wants to be in where everything from top to bottom is completely fucked
>>28547511
I imagine the exchange went something like this
>Iranian boat: "American vessel! You are in Iran's sovereign waters in violation of XYZ! Prepare to be boarded!"
>Navy boat: "We are adrift due to a malfunction in our engines, we did not intend to enter Iranian waters, can you assist"
>Iranian boat: "Our orders are to board your ship and detain your crew"
After this goes around in circles for a bit, Navy captain sees he can either comply with the Iranian dickwaving or start a fucking war. He decides not to start a fucking war.
>>28547545
Things break. If things didn't we wouldn't have mechanics and engineers.
>>28547588
Obama wanted them to shoot at the Iranians so he could intact martial law and become president forever.
>>28547558
I know this: something on that boat broke. Whatever part broke required one of three components to fail:
1. the person building the part
2. the person repairing the part
3. the person inspecting the repaired part
Since the part likely passed inspection before it left the factory, some maintenance person or inspection officer screwed up, which in turn caused the part to fail, which in turn left the boat stranded in Iranian waters.
Yes, someone can be blamed here. That is how the entire military is setup especially the navy. Someone didn't do their job right and now they are going to be quietly demoted or discharged, as an example to their peers.
I find it hard to believe that with all the GPS equipment and other navigational aids that (1) they could get lost and wind up in Iranian waters, and (2) neither was rigged for a tow line.
Apparently I have company. Pic related.
>>28547590
And the Iranians captured the sailors, saw that in fact the boat was experiencing problems, FIXED it for them and released them.
>>28547611
I realize this is bait, but that is so not how that works that it's kind of impressive you could even pretend to be that retarded
>>28547611
Shit, you're probably right. The "malfunction" was probably sabotage set up by Obama.
>>28547590
>>28547626
Giving your sworn enemies the benefit of the doubt is fucking retarded.
Just sayin.'
Wanting to emulate either the IJA or IJN is massively retarded. You're a faggot, OP.
>>28547621
>Screenshot of a Youtube comment of a quote of a Facebook post of a conspiracy theorist
Boy what credible information.
Unfortunately that guy seems to think it's unimaginable to get lost in the age of GPS, which is isn't.
>>28547635
You really can't tell the difference between a joke and bait? Stop posting any time.
>>28547621
It's totally possible that the navigator could have screwed up. Getting lost at sea isn't particularly difficult if you don't stick to the SOP.
>>28547643
Before they were Iran they were actually pretty chill people.
Just sayn.
>>28547621
>Iran and the State Department are working together for absolutely no reason besides they both hate America
Fucks sake keep this bullshit on /x/ you old nutcase
>>28547658
Always assume everyone is a retard until proven otherwise - Abraham Lincoln
>>28547618
You have no idea how parts of any kind work, do you? Not all failures are predictable, or prevented, even under a rigid maintenance schedule.
Sometimes shit happens.
>>28547658
>>28547673
To be fair, we are on /k/. If it were any other board I would immediately dismiss shit like that as a joke.
We'll be seeing a lot more pictures like this one once WW3 starts and America has to fight a real enemy.
>>28547689
Yeah, I guess that's kind of true. Perhaps I was too harsh.
>>28547401
>Doesn't exactly count when you've broken the law and you're being arrested.
Pretty sure that if we were offically at war with Iran, we'd still be breaking their laws by entering their country.
>>28547736
No Confederate soldiers were captured during the Civil War, they were just arrested.
>>28547736
Except we're not, so they're still bound by it.
>Iran wouldn't dare to do this shit if someone like Regan was the president rather than Nobama
>Tfw you trully miss 50s-80s area U.S as an ally
Fucking democucks, I want a reliable ally as a US...
>>28547736
>Pretty sure that if
>if
>IF
Oh boy look at that it's the little word that makes everything after it irrelevant
>>28547442
Do you have any idea where you are?
I hope nobody thinking they should have opened fire on the Iranians supports the right to protect your own property.
Or you are a massive hypocrite.
Entire mess reminds me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fTaK2RDxNA
>>28547745
Unlawfully arrested.
>>28547643
>sworn enemies
You're fucking stupid and know nothing about geopolitics.
>>28547558
>I'm wrong therefore I don't want to talk about it any more
Ugh. Uppercut yourself and get the fuck off /k/.
>>28547820
No, I know you can't prove that anyone was fired for this, but you're going to keep asserting it based on what you assume happened and would happen.
If you want to keep ranting without anything to back yourself up, fine.
>>28547643
Anon, you dont know shit, and bought into the circus and bread.
Iran and the Norks to a lesser extent are patsies for the global play, to appease and distract the people as the world reorganizes.
Fuck, for peace in the middle east, I put iran over the saudis, no offense to any saudis on 4chan. Im looking at you; too much free time royalty guy. You are fun to party with, but not so great at the management thing.
>>28547681
Yeah, but that doesn't stop the navy from blaming someone so that a higher up doesn't have to take responsibility.
>>28547766
The Fox news fact room?
>>28547328
>While the Kurds take over Turkey
That sounds awesome. Another win for America!
>>28547842
>assuming
So are you, you fucking retard.
>>28547328
Kurds taking over Turkey would actually be pretty sweet for the US, considering we like them far more than the Turks.
>>28547328
>Just watch as KSA collapses and Kurds also take a large part of Turkey.
I'd honestly fucking celebrate. Why the fuck should we be involved in all that shit? Fuck Turkey. Fuck the whole middle east. Fuck glass everything. Fuck the refugees, fuck the immigrants, fuck all that shit. Constantly getting involved in shit is why we have such a huge problems in Europe right now with immigrants.
>>28547341
>le japanese superior military meme :^)
Boohoo we won and those shitty pussies that killed themselves turned into a country that literally is going down on population due too men being betas because they rather have a "waifu" than a real girl.
Iranians had the tactical advantage at that point. Probably had them massively outgunned at that point. Resistance would have resulted in a lot of dead Americans. There wasn't an open conflict here, Iran went out with the goal of capturing Americans. So at that point there options are fight, surrender, or drive away and bet they won't shoot you (impossible to do if there was a malfunction of some kind).
The only real fuck up here was that officer apologizing. Clear violation of his code of conduct unless he was ordered to make that statement. He should be held accountable.
Much ado About nothing.
>"Johnson! Why are we not underway yet?"
>"aye sir! Hurrying!"
>"durka durka U ARE IN PERSIAN WATERS PREPARE TO BE BOARDED"
>"WE ARE ADRIFT AND REQUIRE ASSISTANCE"
>"durka club your muskets and prepare to be boarded!"
>"we request parlay"
>"durka we will take you to the captain"
Some time later, vessel is searched for Intel and contraband
>"durka my men will escort you back to your fleet"
The end
>>28548019
It's not even worth trying, so many people here unironically want a war with Iran it's not even funny.
>>28548019
>There wasn't an open conflict here, Iran went out with the goal of capturing Americans
Even then, it wasn't that. They were just enforcing their territorial waters, especially when they released the sailors practically right away.
>>28548093
This. Fucking this. They processed them and spat them back out in 24 hours.
sounds oddly familiar.
didn't the norks pull the same shit?
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pueblo_(AGER-2)
>>28548332
The North Koreans are assholes, and we're actually still technically at war with them. Plus the Vietnam War was going on at the time and tensions were high all over Asia.
>>28547245
Meh, they were probably fucking around and got caught. 'Navigational error' is bullshit. I hear one of em ran out of gas and they were drifting.
People are making too much out of it.
What if two Iranian attack boats showed up in San Francisco harbor? You think we would EVER let them go?
>>28547442
Because naturally the only other option is to flat out surrender... Oh no that's almost as retarded as opening fire on Iranians. Funny how those Aussies found a way to both not get captured and not start a war. You faggots and your false dichotomies, I swear....
>>28547245
Some dipshit was watching porn on his cell phone instead of paying attention to where their boats were.
I'm watching Fox news and their analyst is trying to say Iran jammed their GPS so they could capture them and hold them hostage.
>>28548387
>You think we would EVER let them go?
I think we would be confused as to how the fuck they even got there.
>>28547362
We're not at war with Iran, doesn't apply.
>>28547643
tripfags being tripfags spouting shit facts
>>28547245
Is this a sign that Obama is weak?
>>28547328
I hate Kurds and Turks but for there to be a large war between the two, it would be very beneficial for white Europeans.
> squids run out of diesel playing PT109.
> durkas arrive first since it's in their national waters nao.
> JFK-wannabe "Greets, fellow humans."
> Handsup.png
> bitch handed a rousari
> wear it, Western pigslut.
> pita and kefta
> tea
> Red Cross and AP faggotry
> I can haz nap?
> Secretary of State makes phone call.
> first flight to Landstuhl, etc.
Oh, the hugemanatee.
>>28548387
>What if two Iranian attack boats showed up in San Francisco harbor? You think we would EVER let them go?
1. Since the scenario is literally impossible, and cannot be tested, the cut of your jib is an unfalsifiable hypothesis. You just present the scenario as if could only go the way you are implying, with no way of proving or disproving it.
2. The Russian were in a habit of flying over Alaskan airspace with bear bombers, which considering that they can carry nuclear payloads, they would present a much more clear and present danger than a couple of patrol boats. To the best of my knowledge, we never forced them down, paraded their crews in front of tv cameras, and ripped through their equipment for intel.
3. You assume the Iranians are not fucking lying, which considering that they have tried multiple times to grab western troops in international waters, and succeeded at least once, I would think people would be skeptical about their version of events. The same thing happened with the Hainan island incident, the chinese crashed their jet fighter into our slowpoke prop driven aircraft, and people over here just ASSUMED it was Murrica's fault. Apparently blame Murrica first is a real thing.
did they get released or should I expect a phone call?
Also, this shit happens all the time with other countries. Basically all it is, is now Iran has a "get out of jail free card" in the international community because the US was wjere ot shouldnt be. Or rather now, we have to forgive them for some past violation.
>Egypt and Israel routinely cross each others borders
>The US keeps count
>both sides do it so they can tell their people they are sticking it to the other country.
>>28548485
>code of honor doesn't apply
You serious?
>>28547245
C'mon. Nothing special. Same thing happens in Ukraine daily.
>>28547643
>phil being a retard
>again
>Jew controlled general/president orders troops into Iranian waters thinking they'll be fired upon and a war in Israel's interest will ensue
>instead they're invited into the country, allowed to sit on lavish Persian rugs and fed tea and baklava
>*wringing hands turn into shaking fists*
>>28551806
Jewish meme aside, that might be more likely that you'd think.
>>28547643
>sworn enemies
Oh I didn't know you were an Israeli Phil! šālōm!
>>28547328
>Kurds taking place of the Turks as US's major ally as the latter is discarded like a used condom
Are you implying that isn't part of Obagondo's plan?
>>28547328
Honestly a Kurdish state would be so much better an ally. I say we split up Turkey between the Kurds and Greeks.
>>28551806
>People forget that this nation used to be Persia, a very wealthy place with kind people.
>People want to forget that despite everything, people who were kind tend to still be kind.
>>28551834
>That shitty comic.
You need to edit that to say "Before we go any feuer."
>>28551936
>feuer
Why?
Everybody put on your tinfoil hat.
>no Uniform Regs inforced.
>no sweaters
>no navy watchcaps.
S E T U P
E
T
U
P
PS. Democrats knew they couldn't win this cycle so they hired Trump to Stump the Pump with his Clump
>>28547730
>a real enemy
there isn't a real enemy that WILL fight the US on the planet son. everyone that could pose a challenge to us has nuclear weapons, and so long as we also have 'em, we'll never go to war with those countries.
>>28547245
It started as a "Iranian navy helps stranded sailors" pr stunt.
Someone forgot to tell Iran and it turned into a shitshow.
>actual cause: navigational error ran outta gas engine breakdown.
>>28547544
Its funny, the entire European culture (and by extent American) which is based on Judeo-Christian ideals originates from this worthless sandbox you speak of.
>>28551942
I think he meant führer, but in not him so I have no fucking idea to be honest
>>28551903
>Next year in Constantinople, in Trebizond, in Smyrna
