Explosives general
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I've always had an interest in explosives, but know that they're very frowned upon (especially in California). How do I get into blowing stuff up without breaking any laws? I haven't done any internet searches for stuff like "different types of explosives" or "how to make a bomb" for obvious reasons.
What are the laws like when it comes to blowing stuff up on BLM? On private land?
Also, 'sploders thread general.
>>28502301
Pyrotechnics or demolition would be my guess
>I haven't done any internet searches for stuff like "different types of explosives" or "how to make a bomb" for obvious reasons.
Why not? If you're here you're already on watchlists. Besides, any basic chemistry class already provides adequate information.
>>28502301
The laws are actually kind of restrictive on blowing up BLM protests.
>>28502301
You will want to do so on private land just to avoid trouble. Federally the laws are pretty loose just don't make a destructive device ie a pipe bomb.
I was going to make a thread about something simular.
Would you guys like to see some literature on the subject?
Make and use your own explosives in international waters, preferably on a ship flagged to a shitty third world country. Or become a cop or EOD.
>>28502314
How do you get into those? Does it have to be a career?
>>28502336
I don't want to go from "he's probably an autist" to "he's actually a threat".
>>28502369
Dump!
>>28502386
What are the laws underground? If I buy land and dig far enough, can you be in international ground? A shovel is cheaper than a boat registered to Jamaica.
>>28502689
Witch manual do you want?
From left to right.
>just fuck everything up senpai
>everything is bomb the book
>detailed guide to the safe manufacture of explosives and their properties/applications
>>28502908
not that anon but military explosives please
>>28502934
Which subject?
Also I warn you that guide is by far the most information dense. Lots o text next to no pictures.
>>28502981
pages 6-17
>>28502301
RDX with farm/hardware store ingredients.
FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY: DON'T TRY THIS SHIT AT HOME!!!
The following may or may not be a work of fiction. Contact your lawyer, home room teacher, marriage counselor, and a physicist before you read further.
Alrighty /k/
Here's what I've got right now.
Liquid drano=sulfuric acid
Spectracide stump killer=potassium nitrate
White camp fire starter tablets=Hexamine
The ratios need to be worked out. This will require math, a chemistry text to convert % to molar, and the actual labels to be sure of commercial purity.
Construct ice bath. In smaller container, dissolve Hexamine in water. Slowly, with a thermometer in the Hexamine at all times, add your nitrate solution made from draino and stump killer. WATCH THE THERMOMETER! If it spikes, DUMP OUT the solution directly into the ice bath or you will have new face jewelry.
Before you start, it might be a good idea to look up the spontaneous detonation temp (if any) for this reaction. IIRC, nitroglycerin is pretty damn low. This might be too.
READ A GODDAMN CHEMISTRY BOOK FIRST to make sure I didn't miss anything. You bet your candy ass I will be.
Don't rely on luck, anons. Do the research. Don't be dumb like me. Don't even do this at all, etc.
>>28503050
ETN(C4H6N4O12)-VOD- 8,000-8,100/sec
RE Factor- 1.6
Also Called- Erythritol Tetranitrate
Synthesis- ETN is made by nitrating erythritol through the mixing of concentrated sulfuric acid and a nitrate salt. Ammonium nitrate is commonly used for this type of reaction. The erythritol is added to the mixture to begin its nitration.
The Problem- The availibility of erythritol(C4H10O4) is the question. Where can i find it? Are there any alternate synthesis routes involving less easy-to-find reagents to find than erythritol itself? How about the direct synthesis of it?
Brief Explosive properties- Long shelf-life.One quality this explosive has, that PETN does not, is a positive oxygen balance. Having a positive oxygen balance means that ETN possesses more than enough oxygen in its structure to fully oxidize all of its carbon and hydrogen upon detonation. This can be seen in the equation below.
C4H6N4O12 → 4 CO2 + 3 H2O + 2 N2 + ½ O2
Whereas PETN decomposes to:
C5H8N4O12 → 3 CO2 + 2 CO + 4 H2O + 2 N2
>>28503028
Gotcha senpai
>>28503072
PETN(C5H8N4O12)-VOD- 8,400/sec
RE Factor- 1.66
Also Called- Pentaerythritol tetranitrate
Synthesis- This compound is produced by reaction of pentaerythritol with concentrated nitric acid. In this reaction, it forms a precipitate. The crude can be recrystallized from acetone to give processable crystals.
C(CH2OH)4 + 4 HNO3 → C(CH2ONO2)4 + 4 H2O
The Problem- Availibility of Pentaerythritol[C(CH2OH], and/or it's synthesis.
Synthesis of pentaerythritol (Megalomania's method)- Prepare a solution of 800 g of paraformaldehyde and 165.5 mL of acetaldehyde in 5.5 L of water. Add to this solution 180 g of powdered calcium oxide in small portions with rapid stirring, a mechanical stirrer is advised. The rate of addition of the calcium oxide is adjusted such that the temperature of the solution rises to 50 °C over a 30 minute period with the first portion. The addition of each subsequent portion should not be allowed to raise the temperature above 55 °C. After the addition is complete, stirring is continued for 3 hours. The solution will become yellowish. After stirring, the solution is filtered to remove any contaminant particles, and the yellow filtrate is acidified with just enough hydrochloric acid to make it acid to litmus paper. It is recommended to decolorize the filtrate; add the decolorizer, stir for 5 minutes, and then filter again.
The colorless filtrate is now concentrated under reduced pressure until crystals begin to separate. Since it is rather inconvenient to run the entire lot, divide the solution into portions. The concentration can be done with a vacuum distillation setup. Using a 500-mL flask, add 200-300 mL of solution, when 40% of the water (80-120 mL) has boiled over, stop the distillation and add the next portion.
>>28503105
Eventually you should have approximately 3 L of concentrated solution left. Heat this solution on a steam bath, while hot, suction filter it to remove any contamination. Any precipitated crystals that get caught on the filter can be washed through by wetting with steam. The filtrate is now allowed to stand in a refrigerator overnight, whereupon the first crop of crystals will precipitate. These crystals are filtered to collect them. The filtrate is then boiled down to about 2 L, and again refrigerated overnight. A second crop of crystals will form; these can be filtered to collect them like before. The filtrate is now boiled down to about 1.2 L, refrigerated overnight, and the subsequent crystals are collected by filtration. The filtrate is finally boiled down to the consistency of syrup, refrigerated overnight, and the last crop of crystals is collected by filtration.
The combined crystals, which should weigh as much as 410-420 g, are recrystallized from an equal weight of hot water containing 10 mL of concentrated hydrochloric acid. This new solution can be decolorized, and then boiled down to obtain several additional crops of pure crystals. Discard the last 30-40 mL. The yield is about 55-57%.
PETN Brief Explosive Properties- High brisance, quite stable and more difficult to detonate than primary explosives, long shelf-life
>>28503072
I heard you can get it out of some fake sugers.
>>28503122
RDX(C3H6N6O6)-VOD- 8,750/sec
RE Factor- 1.6
Also Called- Cyclotrimethylene trinitramine
Synthesis-It is obtained by reacting concentrated nitric acid with hexamine, (CH2)6N4 + 10HNO3 → (CH2-N-NO2)3 + 3CH2(ONO2)2 + NH4NO3 + 3H2O
The Problem- Formation of hexamine(C6H12N4), by the reaction of formaldehyde and ammonia in solution. On wiki it only gives this sentence without any further ado. Can anybody please shed some light on this one? I reacted equal parts of them and the mixture started to heat up and bubbles started to be produced. What went wrong?, and what is the correct ratio in reacting them?
You do not really need to use hexamine. You can just use formaldehyde and AN in the nitration. This will also help to somewhat reduce the concentration/or quantity of HNO3 that is required if the formaldehyde that is being used is in its solid form. But if only the liquid solution of formaldehyde is available, better to make the hexamine. But the solid form of formaldehyde can also be prepared from its liquid solutions through distillation using a little H2SO4 acid as a catalyst.
60 grams of 30% concentrated ammonia solution contains about 1 mole of NH3. 4 moles of NH3 condenses with 6 moles of CH2O to form 1 mole of hexamine. 30 grams of solid formaldehyde contains the equivalent of 1 mole of CH2O.
Brief Explosive Properties- Very high brisance, many explosive mixtures can be formed from it, more stable then PETN and ETN. RDX when exploded in air has about 1.5 times the explosive power of TNT per unit weight and about 2.0 times per unit volume.
>>28503086
>>28503146
Picric Acid(C6Hy3N3O7)-VOD- 7,350m/sec
RE Factor-?
Also Called- 2,4,6-trinitrophenol (TNP)
Synthesis-anhydrous phenol is sulfonated with fuming sulfuric acid, and the resulting p-phenolsulfonic acid is then nitrated with concentrated nitric acid. During this reaction, nitro groups are introduced, and the sulfonic acid group is displaced. The reaction is highly exothermic, and careful temperature control is required. Another reaction involves the use of the active ingredient in aspirine from...
http://www.powerlabs.org/chemlabs/picric.htm, and,
http://web.mit.edu/semenko/Public/Military%20Manuals/RogueSc...
The Problem-I tried the acetylsalicylic acid derived from aspirine method but it didn't work, no information on that is available because I did it a long time ago. Further tests are not possible as my stock of nitric and sulphuric acids have finished.
Brief Explosive properties- Metal picrates and picric acid are highly explosive.
>>28503154
>>28503175
>>28503028
>Not Mercury Fulminate, Picric acid or Lead Azide
queer
>>28503225
>>28502301
How come people never talk about explosive schools or UXO training or the like?
Why do people think explosives are some evil terrorist tool instead of an important niche of modern society it is today.
Hell any of those blaster or UXO certificates can get you a job, its not a bad thing to grab.
>>28503253
>>28503275
keep going
>>28503345
Keep your panties on babe anticipation is one of the best parts.
>>28503401
>>28503421
I'm going to be a bit longer between post because there is a beef stew with my name all over it.
When the smokeless powder section is done would people like to See something else?
>>28503547
>>28503269
I've never heard of this. Do you work in UXO?
>>28503607
>>28503780
>>28503635
This.
>>28503269
I was a combat engineer and I've never heard of this. In fact, we were told to not bother trying to enter the civilian explosives industry because it's such a closed field that if you aren't related to someone in the industry, you will need to apprentice for years before you graduate from truck unloader to actually seeing the explosives in real life.
I never even looked it up because I don't feel like working for some dumbass who treats employees like shit because he is impressed with himself (daddy owns the company or some such shit) when I actually have more practical experience than him.
>>28503547
You're doing the cube's work, anon. Nitrostarch explosives look interesting. Alternatively, something from the boobytraps book would be fun
>book is bomb also, comrade
>>28503547
Show us primary explosives like >>28503237
>>28503798
Alright smokeless bro there is another 30 or so pages on the subject and I'd like to hit the hay soon does anyone else have request?
Refer to my post>>28503780
For material.
>>28503846
That's pretty much all I wanted, thanks bro
>>28502689
>international underground
>>28503834
>>28503846
Sorry, changing my vote to lead azides or picric acid as well.
>>28503896
My pleasure man
>>28503846
I'm sorry dude Boobytraps sounds more fun to me. If your on here often I'll post that shit for ya soon mang. Maybe even tomorrow.
>>28503932
>not digging so far down you become your own nation
Somebody post the screen cap
>>28503938
You fucking quadnigger
>>28503973
>>28503990
>>28504045
>>28504058
Holy shit the page numbers are waaaaaayy off in this guide. I'll give you guys lead azide
>>28504083
>>28504091
>>28504099
u da man
>>28504202
No prob doot.
Remember everything is bomb
