How effective is mixing different camouflage patterns?
That is sexy. Been trying to find some nice Tiger stripe but all I can really find is Rothco garbage.
>Socom 2
GOAT
>>28495314
This x100
>>28495218
Really depends on the used camos and the environment.
At best, the different camos can make it even harder to make out the human silhouette from the distance. Certain patterns, like the Finnish M05 and Flectarn, compliment each other very well. Sometimes the FDF uses snow camo pants with woodland jackets during winter, effectively concealing the men in the woods.
>>28495396
That is sooper sexy
How about ACU or EDRL? what compliments either of them?
>>28495218
I think some snowy countries do white pants and wooded tops or something
>>28495568
yes, specially when it's not that much snow outside so the terrain is a mix of white and woodland and you might as well not wear a white cover
>>28495218
man, she looks like she would settle for recycled soda bottles as a form of payment
>>28495561
They compliment each other comrade
i need 3 tone desert to go with my woodland bdus
>>28495765
This picture gave me frostbite.
I could see a use for having the pants be a flatter "ground" pattern and the tops being a more typical woodland pattern, but it seems more liable for the pattern to be ruined at different angles
Welp, time to break out the old PS2 again.
Pic gave me nostalgia.
>>28495982
They are wearing footbags on top of their regular boots, a handy piece of winter item.
I think woodland and desert camo go good together. One of the aspects I liked about Full Spectrum Warrior.
>>28495218
Bong here.
Before the arrival of MTP we used to mix camo for Afghan.
Not my pic, but demonstrates it well.
>>28495396
Example of that.
Ignore the camcorder, he's a conscript doing media stuff for FDF.
Why did socom 4 turn out to be so shit?
>>28495396
Airsoft.
>>28496274
That terrible motion control gimmick shit everyone was into during 2010.
>>28496188
I really hope bongs don't completely toss the dpm pattern.
>>28495869
Tuck your fucking laces in your boots
>>28495228
>Propper Asian and subdued
>Tru-Spec/Tigerstripe Products
If you are looking for a very specific reproduction of a certain pattern
>Moore Militaria
>East Asia Supply Co.
>>28495869
>UCP
Not even when mixed with other patterns
Not even once
>>28496202
>here's an example of that
>not concealed for shit
Should've just worn the snow camo.
>>28495218
Mixing two patterns is fine as long as both patterns are made to conceal someone in the same environment. They should also be chosen because they best mimic the overall terrain from the ground to three feet above it.
This:
>>28495765
>>28495965
>>28495869
>>28496188
>>28496202
is stupid. Trying to plan your jacket to match vegetation that may or may not be present is silly.
>>28497762
Mixing woodland and desert patterns in Afghanistan was in fact, quite not stupid. It's an environment which doesn't quite match either pattern, but which having combined patterns helps increase a broken outline.
Also, functionality trumps trying to be super duper camo'd. For something like Afghanistan consider that it is quite brown, meaning desert pants or uniforms make sense, but it is also extremely cold and most cold weather gear early on was in woodland pattern. So a woodland cold weather jacket and desert pants is perfectly logical. Same with wearing the "wrong" patterned loadbearing gear or plate carrier. When you're in a brown environment but have only green gear, well, you wear the green gear.
>>28497833
>Dat gunner with fucking Y-strap LBE
This is what 600 million a year gets us?
>>28497762
mixed camo isn't perfect solutions, but I disagree that they are stupid
>Trying to plan your jacket to match vegetation that may or may not be present
>may or may not be present
Some times you know the terrain is very mixed, not just in a few places
It's camo that is not perfect, but close enough
>>28497871
my bad 600 BILLION
>>28497871
Back in ~2001, yeah. Dudes operated into Afghanistan with LBEs and LBVs. Look at those Special Forces guys making due with black fleece and an old timey SPEAR vest.
The market for custom oper8or gear didn't explode until dudes started deploying en masse to Iraq.
>>28497833
>It's an environment which doesn't quite match either pattern
Look, that means there's an inherent problem with the selection of patterns that were provided to soldiers. I'm not talking about soldiers having to make due, rather I'm speaking to the practice of choosing two different patterns because it looks cool. Pic related is some tripfag trying to look cool and represents what I said was stupid.
>functionality trumps trying to be super duper camo'd
I agree and never spoke to the contrary.
>>28497934
>inherent problem with the selection of patterns that were provided to soldiers.
There was, and that's a choice above the people wearing the pattern. The soldiers on the ground, when presented from limited options were making a good choice based on limited selection.
This is how you can find examples of soldiers wearing mixed, but effective patterns. Take the vidya picture of the OP. Think maybe it's in a jungle where tigerstripe is the best camo, but the SEAL only has access to a tigerstrip top. It's better to wear it and some BDU pants than try to match with full BDU uniforms, no?
As to the tripfag looking stupid, yeah, tripfags do stupid photo op shit. I don't think anybody intelligent agrees that the application of somebody like that trip is anything but aesthetic wannabee SOCOM masturbation.
I think we're on the same page, I just wanted to respond because your original comment had lumped in pictures of guys like legit deployed Brits in with photo op fags as stupid.
>>28495218
I still fucking play SOCOM 2 sometimes. 1 and 3 are fantastic, but 2's campaign is just fucking too goddamn good. It still stands up to stuff like ARMA 2 and 3.
>>28497762
I agree with you, trying to plan your jackets camo to vegetation is stupid usually, but in Finnish case it is actually effective way of concealing itself. Winter camo pants are started to be worn when first snow arrives and jacket when tgere is even more snow. Idea in this is to blend your upper body to dark brown trees that haven't caught enough snow.
>>28498149
>Idea in this is to blend your upper body to dark brown trees that haven't caught enough snow
That's kind of an excellent example of flawed logic. In this case you are assuming that:
A: snow cover will remain constant from one area to the next
B: Vegetation will remain constant from one area to the next (it definitely won't)
C: Vegetation is a certain height
D: Vegetation is a certain color
E: Soldiers will be standing instead of crouching or laying in the prone
F: The elevation is flat
Look at the picture man. >>28496202
It's not working and the chances that it will work for moving infantry are slim. The woodland pattern has far too low of an albedo to properly conceal soldiers in snowy terrain.
As mentioned before >>28497934 function sometimes necessitates less appropriate camouflage. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but trying to defend it as a viable concealment technique is a bit futile.
>>28498301
*tips*
>>28495965
>dat nigga with a pink jacket
I understand that it's the navy, but why flaunt it?
>>28496274
SOCOM went to shit right after they lost support from the DoD. The first game with the recruiting video and shit? Fucking awesome.
>>28498863
What does this mean?
>>28498301
>that image
I live in colorado and ive never seen trees that close, its usually old growth spaced wide with tons of undergrowth
>>28499000
>The first game with the recruiting video and shit? Fucking awesome.
God fucking damn, when I first saw this when I was about 7 or so I thought it was the tighest shit and still do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PRLvI7Y9B4
![Colorado-desert[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NS5V0aT.jpg "Colorado-desert[1].jpg")
>>28499053
I also live in CO and I have seen trees that close. This state is diverse man.
>>28499099
>grandjunction.jpg
>>28498018
>tfw no good socom sequel with pic fully detailed as a mission setting
![Marines-finish[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/C08H1sn.jpg "Marines-finish[2].jpg")
>>28495218
It's so ugly you won't even want to look at it.
It's super effective.
Insurgency has a Socom mod that makes the game play like Socom 2
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=insurgency+socom+mod
Getting ready to buy it on steam, looks promising
Why isnt there camo where when you pour warm water on it it just changes the color?
>>28499069
SOCOM 1 was the first game I ever played. That video made me want to be a SEAL so bad.
>>28503845
>>28499099
Can confirm. Did a week long bivouac in the Wemenuche wilderness in the San Juan range. We went off trail a lot to get to some really great alpine lakes right at the tree line for some trout fishing. Off the trail... fuck it's dense. Some areas you can barely walk between the trees.
