Modern pump-action shotguns?
From what I can tell just by research on the internet, the DP12 is the best out of all the ones on the market as fair as reliability and quality of craftsmanship, but what about you guys? Good ideas or overpriced toys?
Supposedly the DP12 will misfeed if you don't hold it level, haven't seen proof of that though.
>>28443289
Mossman 500
Old police 870
I like all three of the odd pump actions.
The KSG is the smallest and feels pretty good to hold. I have heard it has bad ergonomics though.
The UTS 12 looks pretty bulky, but it is supposedly built pretty good.
And the DP-12 is really neat and well built, but heavy as fuck.
I'd buy all three if I had money to waste because they are all pretty awesome, but I'm afraid to drop that serious money and possibly be disappointed.
>>28443303
I saw a video that hickok posted that mentioned that, but he didn't seem to have any issues at all shooting it all.
The Neostead is still the way to go.
Non-retarded controls, integral handstop,
fucking heavyweight materials which is what you want for a 12-gauge chamber under your cheekbone.
Yeah, they've improved the sights, but the resulting guns are worse.
>>28443289
Not any less obsolete than other shotguns except:
A. Shooting at flying birds
B. Competition shooting
C. Taking out locks
D. Less than lethal platforms
>>28443342
>The UTS 12 looks pretty bulky, but it is supposedly built pretty good.
Havent held one I see.
Imagine an airsoft company that tried to convert a shotgun to fire real ammunition.
>>28443474
Yeah, I heard that one in particular was garbage. Tons of feeding issues and the door on the side constantly flaps around when firing and just moving in general.
>>28443490
On the flipside, you have the KSG which entails sticking your hand in a sharp pointy aperture to load.
How it should be:
Pop gun open
Fill with shells
Click. Done.
>>28443542
I don't know so much about this design, seems like way too many pieces and moving parts that could get bent.
>>28443576
It's about 3 pounds heavier than a KSG. They are overbuilt as fuck.
>>28443542
Neostead?
>>28443396
I would become a gunsmith just to make and sell these in the US.
>>28443652
Yessir
>>28443653
I'd want better sights, but I'd still be first in line.
>Look at this fucking thing
>>28443396
horsecock
>>28443289
best semi ever made.
>>28444326
That doesn't look like a Beretta A400....
>>28444326
Agreed. A bit of a high parts count, but keeps on working when covered with mud and dirty inside.
>>28443490
There are three versions, with changes from the original at 7000 serial and 12000 serial. The second version is supposed to be generally okay and earlier units can be sent in an converted, but the work is done by Huglo's US warranty center, who is not known for speed.
I have the DP-12, used a KSG for a few days, but have only handled a UTS-15. Of the three, it is the lightest and handles the least like a normal shotgun.
