Top 3 EU army
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1. UK
2. Germany
3. Italy
You know absolutely nothing about European military forces if you've put Germany above France and Italy.
>>28412783
Yep. France is below Italy. Italy. With its wonderful aircraft carrier and nuclear weapons. Italy with its domestic aerospace industry. Italy with its not collapsed economic situation.
Seriously, its like you aren't even trying. France is above Germany, and Italy is a joke.
>Germany
>Army
Lel
France and UK are tied for #1
Italy is uh 2nd I guess, Poland third.
>>28412783
Is this a joke ?
>France is above Germany
In what world? Krauts have a best AF, best Army and a comparable Navy.
>>28412825
Fuck me that's some delusion. Lets take the German Air Force for one, they have 42 functioning older model Eurofighters and 38 functioning Tornadoes.
Compare that to the 219 Mirage 2000's and Rafales of the French Air Force.
>>28412825
>and a comparable Navy.
You've GOT to be kidding
>>28412825
>1940+76
>Being this naive
France
UK
India
>>28412862
Numbers mean shit, Germans pilots are way more trained than French ones.
>>28412825
t.WW2 vet
>>28412783
>3. Italy
>>28412894
Wonderful. Back your point up, show me flying hours of the Armee de L'Air to the Luftwaffe.
>>28412894
>Germans pilots are way more trained than French ones.
Is this guy high ?
1. France
2. U.K.
3. Italy
4. Germany
t.b.h.
>>28412783
1. US Army
2. US Chair Force
3. US ass puppets (UK and France)
>>28412906
That's impossible to find. Please tell me last time France used its AF in a war? 1914? Rafale isn't even combat proven...
>>28412949
>That's impossible to find.
Then shut the fuck up about things you can't prove.
Spain doesnt seem to bad either desu senpai, better than germany at least.
1.UK
2.France
3.Not sure if Poland or Spain should go here.
Or maybe I over estimate the spaniards, they seemed good on paper last time I checkec wikipedia.
>EU
>Army
>Going to be dissolved to make budget for arabs
Pick all 3
>>28412974
Is poland even in the EU?
Finland
Turkey #1. We could easily conquer Europe. No need to since we are already thanks to birth
>>28413033
its in the EU, but not in the eurozone. they have their own currency.
>>28412918
France's lack of logistical units makes it pretty much unable to take the top spot cleanly, anon.
Anglo-French operations are pretty common because of how much the French need strategic airlift support. Not that there is anything wrong with Jolly Cooperation.
>>28413039
1. Finland
>Sparta of the north
2. Poland
>Occupation, never again
3. UK
>Nukes
>>28412783
The Bundeswehr is an underfunded joke.
>>28413033
No, it's still a Soviet satelite state and part of Warsaw Pact...
>>28412783
1.Master race land
2. uk
3.france
/bread
>>28412949
So you're saying Germsnys so shit tier they don't even have a minimum of flight hours. I guess that's to be expected when you show up to exercises with painted broom handles instead of guns.
>>28412783
more than half the german equipment (mostly the airforce stuff) isn't in working condition.
>>28412894
French Airforce guy here.
What the fuck?
>>28412949
for XXI century only:
-Afghanistan
-Lybia
-Mali
-RDC
-Irak
Now, post operation where the Luftwaffe fought?
>>28413033
>Projecting this hard
This isnt your dad's Poland anon
>>28412949
Pretty sure the French did airstrikes in Libya
>>28413578
Budgetary concerns:1991
Turkish housing funding campaign: 2004
The Luftwaffe lost both.
>>28412825
>In what world? Krauts have a best AF, best Army and a comparable Navy.
You guys can't even keep 1/10 of your air force mission ready dummy. http://www.copybook.com/military/news/report-shortfalls-ground-germanys-aircraft
Aym is completely mediocre, and they shoot so little in training and clean so much that HK had to tell their parliament that "no gun is designed to be cleaned more times than a bullet is sent down through the barrel, that's why it sucks"/
The navy doesn't have the ability to go anywhere without gassing up form someone else, has no carrier, or nuclear submarines.
>>28412783
Including all of Europe
1.- France, big inventory, good experience, large industry, nukes, society not entirely pussified
2.- UK, best experience, less inventory, smaller industry, nukes, society extremely pussified
3.- Poland, little experience but good performance, booming industry, great inventory, society with determined mindset
4.- Sweden, most technologically advanced, decent inventory, little experience, excellent industry, society pussified but logical
5.- Spain, good experience, modest industry, decent inventory, troubled but dign society
6.- Finland, okay experience, poor inventory, reduced industry, meme-tastic society
7.- Turkey, poor experience, great inventory, poor industry, society is kebab
8.- Italy, awful experience, small inventory, surprisingly good industry, corrupt, uncaring society
9.- Greece, poor experience, decent inventory, no industry, society decadent, lazy and irresponsible
10.- Germany, awful experience, small, shitty inventory, agonizing industry, extremely pussified society
>>28414266
doesnt the polish grom gained lots of experience in afghanistan and iraq?
>>28412949
>>28412894
>>28412825
>>28412783
jesus fucking christ kid
>>>/v/
>>28412783
1.UK
2.France
3.Cuckmany.
>>28412894
>>28412825
German here, I believe the frogs are better right now...more money and more experience kicking shit in their former colonies.
>>28412825
We 1940 now.
>>28414786
>Rafale
Germany is so shit like literally the worst army of the EU
>>28412949
The French have flown hundreds more mission in the middle east than Germany has in the last 20 years.
>>28414266
>sweden fourth
Have you even looked at their inventory? The materiel they have is really lacking in numbers and by their own estimates they could defend the country for a week in case of an invasion. As so many times in the past, they're using Finland as a barrier against the invader. Fourth place my ass
>>28414266
>let me give opinions on social climates of countries i've never visited
>>28415131
>It's impossible to read about other cultures.
>>28414266
>UK
>Less inventory than France
You might wanna check your ground forces numbers again, bro. The UK has largest numbers of all the big stuff when it comes to armies between those two. Slightly more tanks, more IFVs, a massive MLRS detachment by comparison (UK has 50, France only has 3), more SPGs, more attack helicopters with ATGMs, more F+F/ATGMs all across their normal forces (France still relies almost entirely on wire guided), more long range ATGMs, more combat engineering equipment, more logistics grunt on the ground etc etc etc.
Also, including "country opinion memes" is such a shitty way of trying to judge combat effectiveness.
>>28412783
>France not in top 2
France vs UK sterile debate incoming
>>28415165
So you're basically admitting that you have not ever visited those places, nor do you have any quantifiable facts about the people in them.
Such statements are nothing more than your personal opinion trying to "put up" countries you prefer and want to boost up some dumb peking order on 4chan.
>>28414613
GROM, Formoza, AGAT, NIl, JWK have expierience but the rest of their armed forces have little, especially their Air Force and Navy
>>28412825
>Germany has a better military than France
What year do you think this is? Germanys military is a shitheap
>>28412918
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/12010438/Britain-calls-in-French-to-hunt-Russian-sub-lurking-off-Scotland.html
Complementarity
>>28415204
To be fair, when the UK vs France stuff kicks up, it's normally just passionate country rivalry and insult flinging.
It's basically a national sport between those two to talk shit about one another, only made more hilarious when someone ELSE talks shit into it and both of them immediately turn on them together.
It's not in the same tier of utter shitposting as most X vs Y things on this board. If anything, UK/France relations have increased as of late on here. I mostly see them chattering about their new joint projects a lot.
>>28415235
>Thread about Army
>Posts Air Force/Navy issue (one that's already been covered with a solution soon anyway)
>>28415243
This is a sterile debate, but not a wicked debate.
It's just impossible to put one these two armies above the other.
Also France & UK works well together, so it's a little bit useless to rank them.
> desu, i'm french, i love the UK, and i love these sterile debates.
>>28415211
I'm not even the guy that posted that. But come on, are you saying that you HAVE to visit a place to get a general idea what it is like? Obviously direct experience would be the ideal, but come on, nobody here has ever been to Ancient Sparta, Feudal Japan, Colonial America, Nazi Germany, or the Soviet Union. We can still get a pretty clear picture of what such places were like.
>>28412783
1. America
2. America
3. America
>Implying you client countries even have a actual military.
>>28412803
>poland
surely you're joking you fucking potato farmer
>>28415303
It's not even just the lack of experience. How do you sum up countries of millions of people because the guy's seen some cherry picked newspapers on /int/?
That is literally all this shit on 4chan is based on, pushed through a filter of which countries he personally thinks are cool or wants to defend.
Go to any of the countries he mentions like Poland, Sweden, Spain, Finland, Italy, UK, Germany, go to their militaries. Go to their deployed troops that saw combat. Tell me any of them are, on a personal level of human existence, "pussified human beings" that are somehow lesser humans in combat than those of another countries because of some bullshit made up metric that only exists in his mind.
It's nothing more than complete meme posting.
>>28415334
See
>>28413605
They actually have their shit together vatnik
>>28412783
>b8
>>28415359
>pussified
Wasn't he talking about their culture as a whole, not just the soldiers/military? Society and government can play a huge part in how strong or how held back a military is.
>>28415653
If he meant that then he's utterly fucking wrong then.
