What does /k/ think about tactical flashlights?
They allow you to see things that you wouldn't normally see. What are you looking for with this thread.
>>28400553
I carry with a weapon mounted light. It's nice but not entirely necessary.
>>28400719
Can you CC with it?
>>28400733
yeah.
>>28400666
Some apparently use it for blinding folks and than whacking them over the head with it. It's laughable I guess if you have access to guns but not everybody does and sometimes you don't want to permanently hurt, I guess.
>>28400719
Is it just meant to illuminate the area or can you point and shoot without using sights, theoretically.
>>28400855
If you have your light properly mounted, you can use it to aim (at short distances, obviously).
>>28400834
Pretty much.
If you can't see whats the use of a gun?
Attaching it means you don't have to worry about compromising grip or drawstroke or whatever, but it also means you have to point a gun at things to see
>>28400553
It lets you know exactly what's in front of the flashlight.
But it also lets everyone else know exactly where you are.
>>28400553
I've always wondered about this flashlight technique where you hold the light by you rface. You might as well wear a "SHOOT HERE" sign on your forehead.
I'm all about pic related
>>28402147
I suppose if it's dark and you're pointing at a suspect it helps because he doesn't know what's going on. It's not the same has using it in a military context.
Btw. does anybody know how effect the blinding effect is with let's say 1000 lumen?
>>28400553
Pic related is mine, 1020 lumens and 350 yards of throw in high. 60 lumens and 30 hours of runtime in low mode. Runs on a single 18650. Also has a Flat LED
Anything without a Flat LED is shit (check your surefire's, boys), they provide far superior output and throw over an LED with a dome.
>source: 10 years of theatrical lighting design
I know my way around photons.
>>28402147
I've always loved the scene in kickass where hitgirl leaves her flashlight on strobe sitting on a shelf and flanks the thugs
>>28402216
It fucking hurts. And leaves a good spot in your vision for a while.
>>28402261
>It fucking hurts. And leaves a good spot in your vision for a while.
But is doesn't do permanent damage?
>>28402398
Not that guy.
No permanent damage. In Iraq and trashcanistan we would have flashlight wars where we tricked people to look at you then zap em with our surefires. temporary blindness followed by "you fucking asshole!" Was all.
>>28402398
No. Even the brightest (within reason) flashlight is not anywhere near the intensity of a laser, or perhaps the sun, arc flash, etc. that will do permanent damage.
>>28402426
>surefire
kek, no wonder.
>>28402398
eh, its kinda like hearing loss. Most of it will go away, but there will be cumulative damage if you do it a lot.
>>28402459
Well that was the brand of mine. It's bright as fuck. What brand is significantly better than surefire, may I ask?
This was around 2010 also, technology changes. I still have mine and use it on occasion.
The original bulb that came with mine broke within a month. I wrote an angry letter to the company telling them about my situation and I had to depend on my gear, and couldn't easily get a replacement bulb in buttfuck Iraq. They rush ordered a replacement to my FOB free of charge. So I appreciated the customer service.
>>28402147
this is such a retarded argument. for CC out in the world your assailant already knows where you are, so drawing with the light means you are blinding them which should throw them off. no disadvantages.
in your home you sweep your home until you come upon something, turn on your light and identify before you shoot. youre not running through your house with your light on like some SWAT fantasy. better to ID your target before you shoot in case its family/a roommate coming home late. again, no disadvantages.
>>28400553
Welp, the way it was explained to me by an old timer is this:
If you're in a shooting situation, and somebody points a light at you, that's your aimpoint. Get a round within 6 inches of it and you've most likely got a hit to the head, neck, or upper chest.
He told me this after I asked him why he always held his Maglight out to the side in his left hand.
>>28400553
i love my olight m20sx,it's small,very UI friendly,one hand operational,tough like hell,i've been whacking it in a door with my full force and no problem at all(except the battery end that was touching the spring inside was a bit dent inwards),very good thrower.also have that ring or what is it called for better secured grip,very fast deployment with momentary on and instant strobe,also small for 18650 flashlight
>>28403312
what you're trying to say is: hold your flashlight as far as possible from your body so you'll be shot in the arm,not in the torso/head?
>>28400553
I think they aren't weapons and that only Bongs make threads about flashlights.
>>28402506
>better brand
there isnt
>>28402221
>theatrical lighting design
Did you throw design in there to make us think you do something difficult? Like you're a known innovator in the lighting field?
>>28404588
My agency has transitioned from holding the light off to the side, to holding it in the center of your chest (vest) with the same idea. Easier to see/aim, and if bullets are coming at you they're hopefully hitting your vest.
Not like any of us give a fuck though since we're Canadian and never get into firefights
>>28400553
Why use a tactical light when you can use your cell phone?
https://youtu.be/ZibZ8Ww0clM
>>28402147
http://www.iwillnotbeavictim.com/flashlight_hold-page.html
This just bothers me that he's aiming, looking, and focusing his flashlight in 3 different locations
lol hey
>>28405287
Doesn't it make sense to not move the gun until you know what you're pointing at isn't something you want dead?
I carry pic related for work. Great light and doesn't give an aim-point for an assailant
>>28402221
>muh throw
useless. You're not going to be illuminating hadji with your flashlight from 300 yards and shooting at him
>>28400834
Some times drawing your gun is not necessarily needed, just a good whack is.
>>28405287
camera optics aren't linear. you need to curve those lines away from the center of the image, or the center of wherever the original photo is.
they very well could be in line
>>28405287
You act like the light is only in gonna be on the line. It comes out as a cone...even at like ten feet away, the light on target will cover like 2 foot radius on target.
Protip: get a near UV flashlight and wear UV absorbent goggles.
UV has 2 interesting effects on vision: it's difficult to focus on for people with proper depth perception because quick focusing is mostly guided by depth and the UV isn't focused on the retina as easily as light closer to the center of the visible spectrum and it causes fluorescence in the lens of the eye, further clouding vision.
The UV absorbing goggles will protect you from these effects and the fluorescence of most materials will allow you to see well enough most of the time but it dazzles others much more effectively than a white flashlight (even when it's at the corner of their vision, they'll be quite effectively blinded across their whole visual field).
>>28405751
But does it kill vampires?
>>28402221
>1020 lumens
>still able to see dot in reflex sight
>source: 10 years of theatrical lighting design
You've been hornswoggled. That thing's pumping out 100 lumens, if you're lucky. Check the LED component code and refer to the data sheet.
>>28404588
That's the theory, yes
>>28405763
I asked this exact question on a vampire forum and was promptly banned. If you're going after vampires, I'd suggest a 405nm laser, they're cheap as hell and burn a lot more things than the equivalently powered 532nm laser.
They are great for all tactical purposes
>>28402216
>1000 Lumens
500 is enough to scar your retinas so I imagine a thousand lumens, if such a handheld light exists would do about the same, and would probably make it impossible to aim without disorienting yourself
>>28402221
All of my surefires are flat LEDS, M952V, 6PX, M600U
>>28404627
He's a light wrangler, anon. He's got a whole belt full of photon tweezers and light wave straighteners and shit. The pros make color changes by speeding up or slowing down light. This is not easy stuff.
And you scoff. Pleb.
>>28405766
>Not turning up your red-dot.
Your experience must be exclusively with shit-tier brands like Bushnell, EOTech, or Primary Arms.
>>28405799
Massively depends on focusing. A standard incandescent bulb puts out 800-1600 Lumens (Lumen is a unit of total visible light output, rather than light output per area).
>>28400553
Pretty much every flashlight is called tactical these days. I like small, bright lights, but xenon bulbs and cr123a batteries are gay. LED flashlights are awesome though.
>>28400553
> Tactical Flashlight
My tactical flashlight comes equpped with integrated Camera, Siren and Jizz cannon.
> Do you even weeoooweeooo?
>>28405842
Go point your sight at a 75W unfrosted bulb from a quarter the distance you were from the wall and see if you can still see the dot. That's the same luminous output but, because it's unfocused you have to double the power per area (quarter the distance because inverse square). 1000 lumen LEDs have dies getting on for a quarter of a square inch.
>>28405799
A 100 watt incandescent light bulb is over 1000 lumens. I don't go out of my way to state directly at them on a regular basis but I doubt they cause permanent damage.
>not getting based taser/flashlight combo
>>28402147
Light discipline mate. You don't just keep it on and slice like a candyass.
>>28405318
Was waiting for this, glad it's out of the way
>>28402221
>this guy still pretending his chink Olight torch is anywhere near relevant and claiming to understand weapon lights because he pointed a spotlight at some actors
toppest of keks
>>28404605
Fenix
>>28405904
Underrated
>>28400719
This is also what I do.
>>28400553
LEO fag here, I like having it on the rail just because its practical, but more often use it separately. I find I need a light source more often than I do a light source and a gun and I don't want to have to pull out my gun every time id need a light
I am looking at the newer smaller flashlights to put on my glock
>>28404643
Stop shilling your youtube channel.
>>28405318
goddamn britbongs
>>28400553
My grandma got me a flashlight/stun gun for Christmas.
It's made in China and the writing on the box is silly.
>>28404605
Thrunite
>>28402147
Brace using your elbow and keep the light out to the side of your body.
>>28405287
You don't want to center the light on your point of aim, if the target is wearing white or a reflective material you can blind yourself/just make it more difficult to aim.
>>28402147
Here's what you're wondering, noguns:
You hold the light like that, with the backs of your hands tightly locked to give your weapon hand support while still using the second hand to manipulate the light.
It's about weapon control.
Only the bottom right image is doing it correctly
>>28402221
>those made in china specs
>>28402261
Waifu material?
>>28402506
surefires are pricey and usually built for abuse. But unless you want to drop hundreds, their lower priced lights don't have much features.
The other lights, fenix, thrunite, nitecore, etc all come with features and lumen power, even on their lower end lights. Priced competitively as well. But they are not really marketed as being for rough handling and abuse, and they're mainly made in China, if that tickles your autism.
>>28410422
Used Surefires. I got a surplus unissued M951 with IR filter and pressure switch for $100 on ebay. $40 for a high quality LED upgrade and it's on par with modern new Surefires.
>>28405763
Probably, given that the UV we get from the sun is a far longer frequency than the frequencies we use for disinfection. Can probably get away with the sort of LED units that get used to spot biological fluids.
