no thread for japanese tank?
Hows it going there?
Not worth mentioning when they have like 7 of them
>>28399371
>7
66M8
>>28399371
They have 686 MBTs actually...
Not much to say considering they wouldn't see much use even in a Chinese invasion of the jap mainland, since their entire doctrine is literally "hide out in the dense inland forests until the Americans show up to save the day".
>>28399444
Well to be honest, what would the Chinese want with the japs? The only thing they really have is some land.
No resources like oil or metals. Why do you think the japs invaded south Asia during WWII?
The Type-10 has shitty STEEL armour, and the same type of gun and penetrator as everyone else
its light for shitty Japanese terrain though.
it cannot win a fight with a Western tank, and has last generation stabilization
>>28399458
B-but japan has anime
>>28399365
I picked up an NTC rotation after them.
http://www.army.mil/article/120075/Japanese_Ground_Self_Defense_Forces_train_alongside_U_S__Forces_at_NTC_for_first_time/
didn't get to see any type 90's or type 10's but the tankers seemed pretty competent, at least compared to other nations I've trained with.
>>28399481
You find when your military strength is anemic you all of a sudden are able to spend your money and time polishing it into a very lethal weapon with surgical precision. I wish I coulda saw them.
Implying you didn't already know that of course.
>>28399495
They wear velcro tanker boots. They got really offended when I suggested they didn't know how to tie shoes.
>>28399465
Considering Western tanks can't even cross half the bridges in their country it's not exactly a bad thing I think. It fits their needs like trips up there said.
>>28399444
Type74 tank is still ok in there.
105mm still can penetrate side armour of every tank. they can ambush attack easily in japans forests and mountains
>>28399533
Forgot pic
>>28399537
does the Type 10 use a 105mm too?
I could swear it was 120
is it a German gun, or their own?
>>28399542
Type 10 has 120mm,L44.
Their own.
>>28399542
120mm smoothbore
>>28399537
It looks small and sexy, I like it
Reminder it is so shit that they did not use it on Gate
>>28399565
Gate is a shit animu so ie doesnt deserve to type 10
The japtank can be airdropped I saw this in GuP
>>28399560
of cause it is
This is not a tank but god-tier vehicle
>>28399565
>>28399617
>>28399640
>Gate
>Gup
>Watching anime
>>28399444
The Japanese navy is surprisingly capable. The Chinese wouldn't be able to invade.
This Japanese tank is beautiful.
>>28399444
This is completly wrong.
>>28399365
>mfw the same Mitsubishi that made all these tanks has a FFL11 and a FEL 23 in America, meaning they can import and sell tanks here
>mfw japanese import restrictions got loosened
Civilian legal Japanese Type 10 tanks sold to American rednecks when?
Is there a post about its armour?
i heard that it has some kind of nnano crystal blahblah armour, so it is better than m1a2..
>>28400681
it is $8.4 million m8
>>28400764
Also too fat.
>>28400657
>sadly it will be retired soon
I feel bad for any tanks which will be rendered obsolete by the incoming German-French tank.
>>28400995
why m8 leo and leclerc are good tank
>>28401265
Even these tanks can't stand the next gen tank.
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=b99_1440661103
Japanese "mobile" tanks.
>>28401393
This is their newest tank.
JUST MUD MY TRACKS UP
So cute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9pWlJbH4nY
>>28401404
>no tank has ever thrown a track before
kk
>>28401457
Oh, I am the guy who posted the video.
This happened to all three tanks they showed at their army presentation. Two different types.
It's not like they were going full speed and being put through stressful terrain either. They were just driving through mud and all three threw their tracks over the course of a few hours.
Losing their tracks is just pathetic, especially on Japanese terrain and soil.
Also, later in the day when a shell was fired shrapnel from it wounded two civilians.
>>28401570
Sorry I meant I'm not the guy who you responded to.
>>28401570
Well maybe they were loose or something
>>28401685
No. Tracks are practically the same tighteness on every tank of that type.
It seems their tanks are just not that good on muddy ground.
>>28400631
In a few years I would disagree. The J-20 is needed to strike at our carrier.
>>28399667
Did you forget you are posting on a anime image board?
>Blatant 50 cent in this thread
>China doesn't even have boatsluts
lel
>>28401795
You are Chinese, stop thinking it is not obvious.
>>28401940
I am?
Japan's navy is the only redeeming thing about Japan's military. But it is severely outnumbered and outgunned by China's.
They have 6 modern destroyers, some modern submarines, 1980's destroyers/frigates/subs, and two LHDs.
That's against 34 Chinese destroyers with 24 built after 2000, 4 LHDs, 70 frigates with 55 from after 2000, an aircraft carrier, and 10 new modern submarines.
This isn't mentioning the air superiority and ballistic missile spam.
Japan would make it a bloody fight, but America is what really keeps them sovereign.
I'm curious as to what the turret looks like without the modular armor, I assume it's a type 90 turret.
Any info on this?
>>28402254
>They have 6 modern destroyers, some modern submarines, 1980's destroyers/frigates/subs, and two LHDs.
30 Destroyers, including the 4 Helicopter Destroyers
17 Frigates/Corvettes
18 diesel attack Submarines
>That's against 34 Chinese destroyers with 24 built after 2000, 4 LHDs, 70 frigates with 55 from after 2000, an aircraft carrier, and 10 new modern submarines.
1 Carrier
26 Destroyers
66 Frigates/Corvettes
4 Ballistic Missile Submarines
5 nuclear attack Submarines
40 diesel attack Submarines
>This isn't mentioning the air superiority and ballistic missile spam.
China would be hard pressed to assert air superiority over the Japanese islands. And this is not accounting for the US 7th fleet.
>>28400709
hahhaa
no, its treated steel
>>28401874
Kek
>>28402949
This is all academic. China has only too late realised their folly of believing doomsday Malthusian predictions and decades of one child policy. They have now a surplus of males which due to being babied, are becoming spaghetty NEETs. In 50 years, their population will contract and age, even faster than it would naturally due to increasing wealth. The economy would not have enough time to automate and get to high tech level due to the gender imbalance. We also know what happens when there are too many males and few females: political instability. China will suffer manpower, economic and civil unrest. They will have no energy to invade other countries.
>>28401802
GuP and Gate are pretty shit tho. Jin Rho, Ghost in the shell, Royal space force, Legend of the Galactic Heroes; all are great and k related.
>>28405104
>Jin Rho, Ghost in the shell, Royal space force, Legend of the Galactic Heroes
how old are you, oldman?
>>28405466
Those arent the only ones, just the most memorable off the top of my head. I dont doubt there's loads more, those are just what I think of when I'm looking for all around good and k-related.
japanese tanks are quite exotic. it may because of their terrain-lots of hills and forests
>>28399458
The fact that it is the perfect staging area for any kind of invasion on East Asian mainland isn't enough? If you take Japan from Western influence you're ready to control the pacific.
>>28401795
No. They have a Comp. Idler Arm that maintains track tension. And these tanks looked like that haven't done track tension in quite a while.
And those turns they are taking would make just about any tank throw track.
![Type61-drw02[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AiMA16T.jpg "Type61-drw02[1].jpg")
They had some pretty fly camo patterns back in the day
![Type61-drw01[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YrAmBlW.jpg "Type61-drw01[1].jpg")
>>28407587
![Type61-drw03[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8qwU2lp.jpg "Type61-drw03[1].jpg")
>>28407587
There were a few for the Type 61. they were experimenting with different splinter patterns
![Type61-drw04[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FomKEd6.jpg "Type61-drw04[1].jpg")
>>28407587
And this one must have been a botch to apply
![Type74-drw04[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7Rb68kp.jpg "Type74-drw04[1].jpg")
>>28407587
JGSDF also has some nifty snow camo too
![Type90winter05[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mZo7wFr.jpg "Type90winter05[1].jpg")
>>28407587
Type 90 senpai also has a interesting one too
>>28407699
Kinda weird
>>28402949
I think I'm pretty accurate for going off memory.
>30 destroyers
Maybe if you consider 4,000 ton ships with 32 VLS as destroyers. I said 1980's destroyers/frigates/submarines in combination to the modern destroyers
I guess the Akizuki are modern though so they have 10 modern destroyers.
>17 frigate/corvettes
Yeah
>22 destroyers
Wikipedia's active list has 34.
>66
They have 70 according to wiki.
>subs
Accurate
The PLAAF would missile spam the airfields and attack with their bombers, fighters, and navy in a combined operation.
They would be hard pressed but would eventually win even with the 7th fleet.
The J-20, better electronics, and stronger engines would make the war much easier to win.
No wonder the Japanese are building up.
>>28404826
Okay Mr. Genius.
We don't care about 50 years from now.
We care about tomorrow, next year, and next decade.
Also, 50 years ago people were, no kidding, a fifth as productive as they are now. There were practically no computers and a lot of people didn't even have high school education.
In 50 years automation and technology will likely make the necessity for human manual labor a lot less important, look at real wages in America. Stagnant since 1975.
In 20 years China will have exported its labor intensive industries to nations with a lot of cheap labor, while switching to high tech and services.
Just like America did the last 40 years.
>>28404826
>The economy would not have enough time to automate
>50 years
stick to 9mm vs. .45 threads
Japan has the luxury of a chain of dozens of islands blocking the Chinese in
They can put their abundant truck mounted box anti ship missile launchers on there. Defend them with their ample SHORAD, and a couple of their Patriot clones on the larger islands.
Dig in some of their infantry, MLRS/SPG howitzers to make things difficult for anyone landing on the islands.
Then the Chinese would have to do massive amphibious operations, with cruise missiles popping up everywhere, Eagles and F-2s flying cruise missile strike missions against their landing fleet, diesel electric subs lurking among the islands and the JMSDF surface fleet on the other side of the island chain, coming into range to let off waves missiles. Would be very difficult.
China's ballistic missiles wouldn't do a whole hell of a lot against hidden, propositioned box launchers (many of which are already deployed in the Ryukus). Their best bet is probably to try to take a couple of the islands with fuckhuge paratrooper drops supported by lots of ballistic, cruise missile strikes and huge air raids
>>28401570
Haha Japan needs of more exercise!
Russian tanks can already do a barrel roll
Next phase will be jumping through barb wire while shooting shovels!
>>28408167
>'building up'
2 planned AEGIS destroyers that can't even be built without the help of America . Meanwhile the 052D is being built dumpling style with the 055 to follow so they'll just be outstripped in the next few years.
No jsdf guy here?
Why japs don make a new version of this awsome tank destroyer
>>28410097
Forgot pic
>>28410097
They do have a new tank destroyer.
>>28410097
>>28410110
Because it's an obsolete design?
>>28410125
Im sad for this
>>28410125
And i also wants to see a japanese version of strv-103 with 120mm cannon. It is perfect for their terrain
>>28411024
>nip ratte
>>28410223
>It is perfect for their terrain
>>28408167
I counted ships that were not marked as being decommissioned soon.
>>28408167
>They would be hard pressed but would eventually win even with the 7th fleet.
China would be hard pressed without the 7th fleet, with the 7th fleet its a question of how many losses China is willing to take before throwing in the towel.
F-35s will easily counter J-20s.
>>28411322
No, F-35 is a lemon, the J-20 properly counters it not to mention land based SAMs will kill any non Chinese plane flying within their range.
>>28399481
what are Australian tankers like?
>>28404628
>no, its treated steel
That has been folded over 1000 times.
>>28401277
They wont need to since there will only be a dozen of the new tanks made anyways.
>>28411542
I've never actually met an Australian tanker but I've talked to people that have.
From what I understand they are pretty involved when it comes to maintenance, like American tankers and are very competent on their platforms.
They actually have Master Gunners and Turret mechanics at our Master Gunner school.
"My people. Sons and daughters of China. I have failed you. Our navy lays in ruins. Our air force is no more. As we speak, the enemy advance towards our sacred homelands. They claim to be the descendant of the sun God. I shall reunite them with their God. I have ordered the the rocket force to execute order 14. A hundred new Suns shall rise from the east. May we rise from the ashes. May our children be proud of our sacrifice."
>>28411895
Nice :3 Thanks Tankbro
https://youtu.be/FQoLtyqPp_U
>>28411895
you are the guy who makes a jsdf thread in armored warfare forum, arent you?
thanks for good thread m8
>>28411322
And how many of those are in Japan?
>>28399658
Best looking armor by far.
>the lines on that nose
>the angles on that turret
I aint an expert tank fag, but the type 10 armor schemes seems lack luster judging from publicly released info.
They are keeping their nanocrystal nippon steel folded over a gorillion times armor a secret. So maybe it isn't so bad.
>>28412744
f-35? they order 60 of them. and i think they will order it more.
>>28408167
A2/AD tactics pretty much show up nowhere in Chinese military literature.
The whole concept was created by Navy planners to secure more funding during the War on Terror.
China's navy by necessity has to attempt to cover far more ground than the Japanese, and can expect to be facing everyone from the Vietnamese (who have since acquired superior Russian Kilos) and the Indians (who appear to be ramping up their blue-water capabilities), along with the still-superior US 7th fleet.
China also has very little operational experience, having done pretty much nothing but coastal operations for the last several decades. It has mounted a few successful operations (Aden evacuation etc.) but otherwise they have yet to demonstrate any real know-how. This is in comparison with the Japanese and US navies which have extensive experience in long cruises, joint operations, etc.
Basically the Chinese may have some fancier toys but they clearly don't quite know what to do with them yet. They have vastly inferior logistical capabilities which still damper their blue-water aspirations and they have to maintain sufficient forces to balance the hostile neighbors they have literally everywhere.
>>28412847
>They are keeping their nanocrystal nippon steel folded over a gorillion times armor a secret. So maybe it isn't so bad.
treated steel is still just steel anon. hardness isnt as much of a factor as it was for say, WW2 era armors- today's impactors follow a more hyrdrodynamic model of penetration wherein the length and density of the penetrator take primacy over any other factors like hardness and ductility. Which is not to say they don't affect penetration to an appreciable degree, no its just that the tendency of ever increasing velocity regimes for the latest and greatest rounds of both East and West- with the strict exception of the American A3 round which I think would follow suit anyways.
>>28411542
Butthurt that didn't get Leopard 2 tanks.
>>28412847
>I aint an expert tank fag, but the type 10 armor schemes seems lack luster judging from publicly released info.
where?
>>28413031
>A2/AD tactics pretty much show up nowhere in Chinese military literature.
I bet you read all of them!
>>28413987
You mean thankful they got Abrams instead of Leo2s
>>28414404
No butthurt.
They hate the extra logstics and fuel needed for the thirsty turbines.
>>28411468
>the F-35 is a lemon
Well we know you know nothing.
>Chinese SAMs
>over Japan
Thank you for confirming you know nothing.
>>28414446
Nah, they are thankful they got a better tank and one that actually coincides with who they would actually fight a war alongside.
>>28411542
Armored shitposting.
>>28412847
Looks like a normal layout for a 40 ton tank.
