>>28395844 Masterlock and clones like in OP's pic are made to stop the "dumb thief". They hold up well under impact and pry force caused by hammers, crowbars, and even bullets. Someone with even a rudimentary understanding of lockpicking can defeat one in second though.
I have a small locker at work that I use them on; no one used to lock their shit, but oddly enough after opening up a night shift & hiring several new black people, shits been starting to come up missing. Never used a lock before, but now I rotate these out I've never used them before, but never felt like just throwing them away made sense, either. Since they're always gun locks, I'm hoping that the culprit has some common sense.
...they've got to notice with the Mossberg ones...
1. i used to be a "professional" safe cracker/lock picker 2. no i'm not in the US, and i'm out of the business. got a good gig in the army now doing boring admin work so no more stealing or anything anymore. 3. locks can be a deterrent or a detainer, but they aren't a denier. even the best security locks like some of the weird disc detainer ones with 16 pins, 3 shear lines, side bars, and all can be defeated with time and effort. 4. you're correct that it's largely a matter of delaying the thief long enough that the risk is no longer worth the reward. if someone is dedicated to stealing it, it will be stolen.
>>28395908 i'm >>28395955 and i wanted to chime in with: >Masterlock and clones >and clones cheap chinese clones don't often use hardened steel, and worse, the snap ring that keeps the core in the lock can be pried out with a screw driver and the actuator engaged directly - no lock picked at all.
masterlocks are complete trash anyway, and american (the brand) ones are too.
my record for raking open a Masterlock #4 is 5 seconds.
>>28395991 I pick my master 140 on the toilet. The hardware store at the end of my street has a large stock of American locks, the old ones. It's the only place in town that sells anything other than masterlock crap. Still haven't managed to get the American 5530 open but my top of the keyway tools get here tomorrow.
>>28396027 taught myself when i was around 10 to rake open easy locks with wire. eventually was taught pin picking by someone in the know, but when i was in my snatch and grab phase it was all using a sledge hammer or attacking the shackle. on the locks that were good we would attack the chain since morons almost always used bad chains or cables that could be snipped.
i got into safe cracking and robbery (not people, just businesses and banks i never wanted to hurt anyone) in my late teens. i was pinched eventually and forced into the army in return for teaching my B&E skills to some people and "serving" out a sentence pushing papers.
>>28396027 >And how often is the pin rake method effective? oh, i think i forget to answer this: the rake method works on nearly all masterlocks and similar designs that use only standard pins and have an easy pinning. fucking the lock (using a wrench to turn gently, but jamming the pick in randomly on pins) can work a lot too.
both methods tend to work on clones, cheaply made locks, and masterlocks and american locks after masterlock buy the company.
older american locks were kind of rake resistant, but still possible depending on pinning if the rear pins are reachable. easy with the rake. i would say you have a 50/50 chance if you can spot the cheap lock that you can easily rake it open.
it's one of those "hey that looks like a cheap lock, lemme try this for 10 sec for an easy steal." methods, not one to depend on.
I used to because I lived with kids that didn't respect my privacy and a felon stayed there sometimes. I didn't trust any of them and my dad had crackhead friends when I lived with him. If I could take them with me, I did. I almost never left them in the house when I lived there. They usually stayed in my trunk or were hidden with two locks on each, and with the keys on me.
Now that I'm in my own place and don't have crackheads or kids I don't trust. No. I'm the only one here and there's no point in using locks.
When I'm travelling on airplanes, I lock all the guns, remove the bolts, etc. I don't trust TSA, but as a frequent flyer and someone who is constantly conducting business across the USA, I have no other option. For instance, I'm in Miami right now, but tomorrow I'm flying back home to Houston. On Thursday I'm flying to Utah, and next Sunday I'm flying to New Hampshire.
I may not trust TSA, but I trust FedEx and UPS even less.
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