I have a good collection of guns but I've got an itch to buy a midsize 380 for some plinking now that .380ACP can be found pretty cheap.
Seems like it would be relaxing and help work on fundamentals. I just don't enjoy shooting .22lr that much so I want to give 380 a go for a more 'relaxed' round. I held a Walther PK380 at my LGS and it felt cheaply made. The slide felt like pot metal like my old M&P22 pistol and the trigger was mediocre.
I'm trying to keep this experiment cheap so I'm looking for alternatives without godawful triggers (looking at you, LC380). I don't have an aversion to the Bersa Thunder 380 as they're pretty solid and I sure as fuck can't afford a PPK. Any other choices out there really that isn't a pocket gun? Maybe I need to give the PK380 a second chance.
>inb4 Makarov
>>28366233
That piece of shit is made by Umarex like the P22 and M&P22. It feels like pot metal because it IS.
Whatever money you save by buying the gun will be spent with fucking expensive ammo. Just get a .22 or 9mm
>>28366487
I have both, and .380 ammo is not expensive at all if you know where to look. I'm just trying to brainstorm what's out there.
>>28366233
If you can find one the CZ83 is a pretty nice pistol. I own a Bersa Thunder and it was my carry pistol for close to 10 years. Been very reliable for me.
>>28366537
This, or a ppk, but a cz83 would probably be your best bet
>22lr for plinking
>ever
Why?
What's even the point when you can reload .25 acp with buckshot for a fraction of the price.
>>28366233
>Bersa Thunder 380
I'd avoid that. My dad got one a few years back and it bricked itself within about 50 rounds. He took it to a gunsmith who said that the barrel had expanded so much in once place that he couldn't get the slide off. Bersa's warranty stuff was such a pain in the ass that my dad never bothered following through for a new gun, although to be fair that wasn't really Bersa's fault, a lot of the TX retailers that Bersa approved for warranty stuff had just closed down around that time.
Also, my dad also has one of the S&W licensed PPK copies and it kind of sucks. Still works though.
>isn't a pocket gun
CZ used to make the CZ83, and there are some Makarovs in .380 that were made specifically for import to the US. Neither is big, but I wouldn't call either a pocket gun.
>>28366503
Show where to look, I have a PPK/S I need to feed. Cheapest I found was Freedom Munitions, they recently had a 5% off sale so I stocked up
>>28366233
Don't buy cheap Umarex junk.
If you want a nice midsize .380, and are OK spending close to $600, look at the Browning 1911-380.
Or, wait for the new RIA Baby Rock, it should be closer to $400.
Alternatively, look at a Beretta 84. It's a nice double-stack .380, virtually no recoil, great ergonomics, perfect size. Older ones like the 84BB (manual safety, no decocker) are $250-$300. The new production 84FS is about $600, used ones a little cheaper.
>>28366233
cheapest thing I can think of while still being good is a mak. Maybe the ruger LCP but the mak is more comfortable to shoot. All others
>walther ppk
>sig 238
>kahr p380
>colt 1903
>glock 43
>beretta cheetah
are going to be around the price of a similar pistol in 9mm
>>28369597
MP Bodyguard?
>>28366736
Yeah, I was going to order on FM if I get a .380. Their prices are really good on .380, .44mag, .357, .45 Colt, etc.
Thanks everyone for the CZ83 suggestion, looks really interesting. Might buy
