is there anything wrong with the tank they built for Indiana Jones and the last crusade?
We're it a WWI tank, no. It's a pre-WWII tank though, so pretty undergunned and underprotected compared to all but training tanks.
>>28364242
>>28364306
It looks oddly sexy.
I view it as a modified ww1 surplus tank used by a german expedition, not top of the line stuff.
>>28364242
This is obviously the Leman Russ battle tank, so nothing wrong with it
>>28364333
Thing is, it didn't belong to the Germans, it was the private military toy of the Shiek they bribed in the movie.
Why the fuk did they even want a tank out in the middle of bumfuck nowhere anyway?
>That fucking massive, unarmored, driver viewport
>No bow-mounted MG or coaxial
Just run up and chuck a grenade in there.
>>28364993
To defend the convoy in the event it comes under attack by hostile guerrillas. You know, exactly what happens in the movie.
>>28364982
Even better.
>>28364242
>sponsons
yes_fuks_yes.jpg
>some surplus relic obtained by a shiek with more money than sense in the 1930s and haphazardly modernized
Seems pretty plausible to me.
>>28364242
Brother, what you are suggesting is heresy. The Leman Russ battle tank is a tool of the Emperor, there is nothing wrong with it.
>>28364242
Isn't that a churchill?
It's a Leman Russ
>>28364242
Yes.
For one thing: the huge engine is in the middle.
For another this also means the turret is directly above the drivers seat.
Also its weirdly fast for some reason.
>>28365239
nigga...
>>28364242
The turret looks tigerish.
>>28364242
Yes.
Its not a TOG.
>inb4 go back to /v/ from WoT babies.
>>28365254
its fast cause its a movie
in the directors commentary they were saying it was slow as shit and they had to have the horses run slower
Is that tank an actual model, or was it movie specific
>>28364242
It needed an oil change and the AC needed a top off of freon.
>>28365344
Its a mock-up of a Mk. VIII made out of a excavator with a turret
>>28365279
It does look kinda like the TOG I
>>28365239
Lolwat.
>>28365272
Except for the slab sides, massive viewing port, tiny gun and lack of a commander's cupola. Sure. If you squint.
Still better than the fake tiger in Saving Private Ryan
>>28364242
Ironically if it was up armored a bit and slightly modernized (turning it into a more practical and squat looking 40k Leman Russ) it would probably fare better than 99% of tanks used in urban combat today.
Hell, with some modernized armor and vision systems a T-35 would do pretty well in a urban environment.
>>28364969
Beat me to it
>>28364242
Needs coax machine guns for the sponsons and main gun not to mention a forward hull machine gun, besides that tank is fine.
>>28365827
Fake tiger, actual t34 though.
Okay... but what about this bad boy?
>>28365916
>>28365827
At least they accurately depicted the fact that WW2 heavy tanks were absurdly loud and and vibrated the ground (espically on rough ground) so much that they were difficult to walk near.
Many of the pictures you see of the Maus while it was being tested show backdrops of buildings with shattered windows, ruined streets and cracked foundations. Those places were undamaged before it drove down the street, it it was within 100 meters of a window it shattered them via engine vibration, especially in areas with lots of stone or brick windows.
In the posted image that isn't rubble on the ground, it's cobblestones that were vibrated out of the road surface. If they had actually built one of those planned 1000 ton land cruisers they would have had to be assembled outside of any major urban areas and could not be shifted to a new from simply because moving through a built up are would have caused more damage than a large scale bombing raid.
>>28365937
Horton flying wing, a early design.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horten_Ho_229
>>28365239
What?
It's a copy of a British MkVIII with s fictional turret added. A few real MKVIIIs are in museums. While there's nothing really wrong with the main tank, I suspect that crew compartment isn't nearly as large as depicted in the film, where's the engine?
>>28365937
It's entirely fictional in shape, though the Germans had many designs which would have inspired it.
>>28365814
I mean yeah, you can heavily scrutinize it, I was just thinking that might've been the designer's thought process when he was designing it.
>>28365937
I seriously can't get over the wheels. They don't retract yet clearly look modern enough to be in an era where they would otherwise would have.
>>28365983
>stone or brick windows
The carpentry in your country must be really shit
>>28364242
That tank currently sits outside of the Indiana Jones Adventure at Disney world. It is rusting up pretty bad.
Have some OC pictures of it I took a few years back.
>>28367484
>>28367519
>>28367411
Some of the early jets the Germans invented had detachable wheels. As in the wheels were ejected after take off and the jet landed like a glider. New wheels obviously had to be attached prior to the next take off.
>>28367484
Horrified I did a quick google and apparently it's been restored somewhat. They should be embarrassed opening a theme park and then leaving actual props from the show to rot on public display.
>>28368287
That's a relief.
It's far too cool to be allowed to simply rust away.
>>28365983
Now we wait...
How are the Nazis and local kebab operating military assets that freely in what should be French or British territory?
>>28364242
Looks as if a Mark IV and a German Neubaufahrzeug had a baby
>>28368287
>looks cleaned up and has a set piece that works
Okay, MUCH better.
>>28369180
>Random hull that looks like a bongtank
>Panzer IV-esque turret
>Panzer I turrets
Yeah, no
Post proofs or fuck off
>>28369296
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neubaufahrzeug
>>28364242
Its not real? Your question is incredibly vague. Define 'wrong'.
>>28365866
Are you....bait?
>>28365983
Is the effort worth it though, anon?
>>28369330
...Fucking Krauts man.
Sorry.
>>28367484
>>28367519
>>28367535
Saved.
Those are going to confuse the shit out of people in the next /thg/ thread.
>>28369375
probably just retarded
>it has multiple turrets so it would be perfect for an urban setting hurrr
>>28369436
Oh you cheeky cunt.
>>28369445
I cannot wait, just hope none of you fuckers ruin it.
>>28365200
Leandros Was Right
>>28369416
Fucking Krauts indeed.
>Hey Fritz, you know how the Panzer IV only has a short 75mm cannon and two machine guns?
>Ja?
>Let's make the turret a little bigger and add a short 37 next to the 75
>Seems reasonable Hans, anything else?
>You know how ze Panzer I has a tiny turret?
>Ja, is cute. why?
>Let's add one in front of the IV's turret and another behind it
>Oh yes, and don't forget to change the suspension type to a more complicated design and pack 6 people into it without changing the armor
It really does seem like a pointless design. Apparently it wasn't much of a success; only five were built as a result. Of these 5, 3 are suspected to have been destroyed in combat in June 1941 while the others were scrapped sometime in 1942. Krupp and Rheinmetall both built their own versions of the NbFz, with the main distinction being that the Krupp turret had the 37mm to the left of the 75mm while the Rheinmetall placed the 37mm above the 75mm.
>>28369495
Leandros is a fag and should be summarily executed by a human Commissar for ratting out his own Captain to the Inquisition instead of going to the fucking Chapter Chaplain like he was supposed to do.
>>28369436
>implying we aren't ITT already
>implying this thread isn't the surrogate THG
>>28365239
grant, but you were close.
>>28369590
>hey Fritz you know the Panzer IV only has a short 75mm cannon and two machine guns
>Nein, there is no such thing as a Panzer IV, have you been drinking brake fluid again Heinrich?
>......ja, ja.....
>DAS IST VERBOTEN HEINRICH
>>28369614
Do you want it to be? I can dump some more abandoned/submerged tanks?
>>28369691
as long as you keep the cringe captions out of it I'm fine with the eventual reposts
>>28369691
>when you forget to put the speed governor back on
>>28369703
I stand silent, my tracks have long since seized, my gun is jammed and my engine will never run again.
But I still watch over you, ready to once again, remove keb......just fucking with you.
I hate it when they put captions to these. Its a tank. Its abandoned. I like urbex and military vehicles. That's it.
>>28369733
>>28369752
>>28369752
>I must unite the Germanic peoples under one flag
>>28369770
Stop it, no captions. NONE!
>>28369762
>what happens when you leave your tank parked in section 8 housing
>>28369691
>>28369781
>>28369180
I recall some of these meeting a KV-2 once.
German wiki says the point in the landscape where the Neubaufahrzeug stood when the 152mm did its work is still visible today.
>>28369784
>>28369818
PLEASE, NO MORE CAPTIONS, IT HURTS.
>>28369865
this looks like it has an instagram filter slapped
>>28369835
>Neubaufahrzeug actually met a KV-2 during World War Two
>[citation needed]
>>28369877
It probably does, I don't like it either. It's as bad as the constant use of HDR in urbex.
>>28369882
>. In diesem Moment wurden sie von KW-2-Panzern abgeschossen, die vom Waldrand in etwa 500 Metern Entfernung aus angriffen. Die 152-mm-Granaten zerstörten die beiden Panzer vollständig. Die Motoren waren Maybach-Flugzeugmotoren mit Benzin. Das erklärt Penetzkos Bemerkung: „An Stelle der Panzer war nur noch Qualm und Rauch“. „Die sind wohl aus Papier?“ schrieb Penetzko erstaunt dazu.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neubaufahrzeug
>>28369882
>Am 27. Juni 1941 griffen Nr. 9 und Nr. 10 kurz nach 17 Uhr südlich von Sitno (Sytne, Oblast Riwne) einen Zug sowjetischer Panzer BT-7 des 8. Machkorps 34.AA an. Sie schossen am Ortsrand einen BT in Brand. Dann fuhren sie in Gefechtsformation mit ca. 230 Meter Abstand in südöstliche Richtung gegen die russischen Panzer. Auch den im Gehölz stehenden BT von Hptm. Penetzko hatte einer kurz im Visier. In diesem Moment wurden sie von KW-2-Panzern abgeschossen, die vom Waldrand in etwa 500 Metern Entfernung aus angriffen. Die 152-mm-Granaten zerstörten die beiden Panzer vollständig. Die Motoren waren Maybach-Flugzeugmotoren mit Benzin. Das erklärt Penetzkos Bemerkung: „An Stelle der Panzer war nur noch Qualm und Rauch“. „Die sind wohl aus Papier?“ schrieb Penetzko erstaunt dazu. Die Schäden im Boden sind heute noch an den Abschussstellen deutlich aus der Luft zu sehen. Beim Fortsetzen des russischen Angriffs fuhr Zugführer Penetzko auf einen kleinen Hügel südöstlich des Ortes, wo er direkt auf den letzten Rheinmetall mit rundem Turm traf. Die deutschen Panzer hatten eine Zange gebildet und das dritte Neubaufahrzeug stand Penezkos BT plötzlich gegenüber. Er vermerkte, dass „ein riesiges Ungeheuer mit rundem Turm“ auf ihn zu kam. Beide beschossen sich auf kürzeste Distanz, höchstens 50 Meter. Der größere Rheinmetall schoss zuerst, traf jedoch nur die obere Kante des Turms vom BT, da seine Geschütze für die kurze Entfernung zu weit oben lagen. Der Russe schoss erschrocken in die Luft, traf dann mit dem zweiten Schuss. Der Rheinmetall wurde durch den Treffer der 45-mm-Kanone des BT direkt in den Turmkranz zerstört. Der Turm flog weg, der Panzer kippte um.
It's in German, translation coming up in the next post.
>>28369899
>[citation needed]
>posts short excerpt from German wiki that doesn't have any citation, footnotes etc
I meant a proper citation, i.e. an actual citation.
>>28369918
Well yeah. TL;DR, they attacked some BT tanks, managed to set one on fire and tried hitting Captain Penetsenko's (whose memoirs these are) BT, before being shot by KV-2 tanks. Their 152mm guns destroyed both tanks completely.
>>28369923
>G.I. Penezko: Psano na tanku. Nase vojsko, s. r. o., 2010, ISBN 978-80-206-1135-2.
It's in the article. Not hard to look up
>>28369865
>>28369495
Leandros was literally wrong. I bet that git didn't even read the Codex.
>>28369923
>being an illiterate shithead
>>28369970
That tank was a reenactment/movie tank by the way.
>>28369733
It looks sad
>>28369835
That never happened, they were sent to Norway as part of the occupation forces. They never left Norway.
>>28369471
It is my OC and I have a few more that I didn't post yet.
I mostly lurk the THG threads. I might post more. I am a tanker after all.
>>28369180
I saw that as a huge tank, like really huge I mean that little hatchet on it's side is actually barely human size and is an entrance into it huge.
>>28369781
>freedom
>>28369970
sweet jesus what the fuck is that?
>>28370874
>What is Kampfgruppe Kleist
Yes. Mainly considering the terrain hes fighting in is unsuited for that type of tank. On top of that its an outdated model even for that time and even THEN the amount of repairs needed in that type of climate would be ungodly and sure to give anyone a fairly tough time finding the parts to repair if need be.
>>28369730