Can we talk stocks for a moment?
I want to carve my own, but I know little about wood. And since this is my first go, I want to keep it as cheap as possible because I will fuck up.
So, basically What is the cheapest wood to make a functional stock?
>cheap
Just don't bother
Laminated hardwood.
>>28362124
Can you make a laminate, op? Have enough clamps?
>>28362071
just go buy a 2x6. they're like $5. or pick one up on craigslist for free, people throw that shit out all the time. you could probably even use an old pallet to try your hand at making a few.
>>28362158
What type of 2x6? Pine? Beech? CEDAR?
>>28362071
Why don't you talk to a tree trimmer and get some black walnut or oak.
>>28362208
Are these woods desirable due to durability or beautifulness?
>>28362208
>Begging the yardboy for wood
Fallen on hard times there SAO, huh?
It's doable, but it takes a shitton of patience and moderate skill. Just google blanks, and there's a ton of tutorials out there as well. Seeing as you haven't done even a basic search yet, I'll assume you're a retard and will have a pile of shavings, glue, and pieces of finger all over your bench. Have fun!
https://gumbi1.wordpress.com/my-first-diy-rifle-stock/
>>28362231
oak is good. walnut is good. just get any hardwood and you should be fine. Do you have any tools to do this with though? or are you just going to start hacking at a piece of wood with your kabar brand kabar?
>>28362185
red oak is cheap and can be finished well. look for a 2x6 that is relatively straight grained
you're going to want to use this as an opportunity to purchase a router and drill press.
>>28362282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwGrC0KicSo
>>28362071
Start with a 2x6 for a few practice runs. You wont want to shoot with it, but you can get cheap 2x6's (untreated) and not waste a lot of money on practice runs
Get yourself some hickory, for your dickory, doc.
>>28362282
>you're a retard and will have a pile of shavings, glue, and pieces of finger all over your bench
>pieces of finger
>mfw
>>28362847
well fuck.
did something he was wearing catch?
>>28362847
Metal lathe, looks like the old LeBlond at the shop I used to work at
Guessing the guy got some loose clothing caught, didn't get to the e stop in time
>>28362880
>>28362847
looked at more pictures on liveleak
this is why you don't wear long sleeves or baggy clothes, and tuck your fucking shirt in while working with lathes. christ
>>28362847
did he died
>>28362994
He aight. Put some salve on it.
>>28362994
nah m8
he's just half man, half machine now
Why do jezail stocks make my dick hard?
>>28362847
>>28362889
That poor bastard
>>28363112
Jesus fuck I know what I'm go ogling now
>>28363112
Thats a good question.
On a semi related topic, if i wanted to change the color of an sks stock, is that possible without just getting a new stock?
Is there a way to leech color from wood, like you would cosmoline? And could i then use dye for desired results?
>>28363112
we sand people now
>>28363112
So, in the States, you cannot add a stock to a pistol, but what if you just cut that down to pistol length?
>>28363282
do it like people do red wood on ak furniture.
>>28363282
you can strip the finish off, then refinish it
>>28362071
>So, basically What is the cheapest wood to make a functional stock?
Your bigger concern will be tools. They'll cost you FAR more than materials for a one off thing.
>>28363315
>>28363331
Ill look into that.
>>28363282
Holy fuck, did you NEVER take a shop class or are you a woman?
>>28363475
I've noticed a lot of sons of single mothers or hippies have trouble with practical stuff.
It's better to teach them, because it's not their fault they didn't learn.
>tfw I had to teach myself guns, car repair and wood and metal working on my own because my Pa was a white collar accountant who never did that shit
>>28362994
Somewhat.
>>28363873
is that an eye where his mouth was?
>>28363702
>tfw parents taught me nothing outside of shit like brushing teeth
>tfw had to figure out making a resume myself because they didnt want me getting a job and "focus on highschool and go to college"
>they never saved a dime for me to go to college
>wouldnt pay for ACT or SAT despite me visibly buying my own study guides with my own money "because grades were too low"
>mom did nothing but bitched the minute I asked her for information to fill out fafsa
glad I dont live there anymore
>>28362847
the real mfw...
>>28363873
>>28363702
>be son of single mother since 4 years old
>know how to work on cars
>have fully equipped shop and know how to use everything in it
>know how to function as a human being because I'm not retarded
>>28363873
>>28362847
>Jimbo says he's going to stay late and finish something up
>tell him I'll see him on monday
>come back to work after weekend
>see this
what do?
>>28362071
do you already have tools for this? none of woodworking is "cheap"
>>28364219
not him, but what tools do you even use? I would assume something like a bandsaw to cut out the shape, then maybe a belt sander to rough it out?
You won't even be able to choose a wood that will be workable but provide a stock that won't split or warp if you don't know anything about wood. You might get a piece from a good species only to find you ruin it because it's got difficult grain and your hardware store chisels are shitty and dull.
tl;dr you have to be a decent woodworker to make something as tricky as a rifle's stock.
>>28362847
Mfw this happened to someone at a machine shop near me. Guy stayed back friday to make something. Someone rocks up monday morning to the lathe still going and bits everywhere
>>28362071
2X4 from home depot
>>28366293
>Guy stayed back friday to make something. Someone rocks up monday morning to the lathe still going and bits everywhere
so this
>>28364206
actually happened?
>>28363295
Since it's blackpowder you would have ruined something nice but committed no crime.
Otherwise you would have built an SBR which is very naughty
>>28362071
>Cheapest wood.
Jet.
>>28362071
Chippie here. The first thing you ought to do is buy a boatload of ALS/CLS and make a couple of dozen mock ups before you try it on a decent piece of timber. It's a lot easier to work so you can get the hang of your technique, and it's cheap enough that it won't matter when all you end up with is some novelty firewood.
As far as tooling goes, a small bandsaw is a must. You probably could do a lot of it with a coping saw, but that'd be hard going if you're not used to it, and in terms of time it'd be quicker to plant a seed and persuede the tree to grow in the shape of a rifle. You'll want a spokeshave, and some decent chisels - marples would probably be about right. They hold an edge quite well, and allthough they're not cheap (in the UK at least) they're not quite in to the "only worth buying if someone is going to pay you to use them" price range.
Other than that, be prepaired to spend three times longer on it than you expect it to take, measure twice cut once, and allways be mindful that it's easier to to take a bit more off than put a bit back on.
>>28366323
Not that actual pic, but yes a similar thing happened near me where he was spinning all weekend till someone found him monday morning
>>28366382
>u need a machine band saw and fancy tools before u can do any woodworking
do you seriously think they had all those fancy gadgets back when they were building hand cannons by hand??
he doesn't need any of that fancy crap
>>28362283
>just get any hardwood and you should be fine.
use balsa.
>>28366382
>plant a seed and persuede the tree to grow in the shape of a rifle
genetic engineering rifle stock trees when
>>28366396
It's easier to lean to use a band saw than to get an actually good panel rip saw and rip your shit by hand. Much quicker too.
Power tools are easier, hand tools require more skill.
>>28366388
that's horrifying.
>>28366388
>meatspin.gif
>>28366396
he doesn't need any of it.
it will make his life significantly easier though.
he could just go break a limb off a tree and start rubbing it on some rocks. it would just take a really fucking long time and turn out poorly.
also, they did have draw knives and chisels back then. just not bandsaws.
I've offered to have the stock on my dad's 1100 repaired as part of his xmas present. What's a reasonable price to expect to have this done professionally?
Pic related, there's a crack at the top of the stock where it meets the receiver. there's a small gap on the very top where the wood split, but no material appears to be missing.
It operates fine despite the crack, so this is purely for aesthetic reasons.
It happened when he dropped it many years ago.
>>28366451
>take woodglue or superglue or elmers glue
>put it in crack
>clamp
should cost you like a whole dollar.
>>28366396
If you're going to use hand tools be prepare to fuck up a lot of prototypes. I haven't done gun stocks but I have done paddles and my advice would be to perfect the shape you want in a cheap softwood like spruce, then make your final one out of your desired wood.
>>28366388
This is why you don't DON'T fuck with lathes.
>>28366468
or just don't be a retard around lathes. no loose clothes. no rings, watches, bracelets, etc.
>>28366461
what's the worst that could happen if you mess up?? as long as the gun fits, who cares if the stock is a little chunky and has a couple branches growing out of it
>>28366473
The worst is that the gun doesn't fit, your barrel isn't straight etc. It can be very frustrating as well to mess something up when you've been working on it for a long time. If you are trying to carve a stock and don't know how wood splits because of its grain you are not going to have a good stock without a lot of headache.
>>28363873
Fuck!
Is he dead???
>>28366502
no he's just tired from doing alot of hard work
>>28366468
>>28366435
>>28366416
While were on the topic of fucking with lathes, check this dickhead out
http://youtu.be/0PzPfzLeDa0
>>28362071
Poplar
Different anon here, guy I know is giving me a 2ft by 3ft log of cherry. I plan on making a new stock, grip and handguard for my o-pap.
Any advice about what I should do to make sure the wood is usable?
>>28365918
This. Unless you're paying like $25+ a chisel and have your own stones for sharpening... don't even try.
>>28362477
lol here comes a 60 pound sporter rifle
>>28366887
I hope you have the tools to actually fuck with that kind of a cross section.
>>28362251
Don't be an idiot. Making a stock out of a tree that you took down or was yours is mucher cooler than buying a 2x6, which isn't thick enough.
>>28366938
Well kinda figured we would throw up a jig and chainsaw it into workable sections. Then handset and handsand.
>>28362929
>le blonde
Back to le reddit fag
>>28367038
Stop being a useless, jobless drain on society, you fuckface.
>>28366399
Make sure to duracoat it
>>28362071
Maple. Maple stocks aren't common, but they once were for muzzleloaders and make a nice stock. It's also similar to walnut in hardness (though maple doesn't take diamonds (checkering) as nicely nor as finely as walnut.
(pic related)
Beech also works.
That said, where I live people cut down black walnut trees every spring and summer and give it away. If you read up on curing/drying wood -- and have the space -- you can cut, dry and store your own blanks. If you want to get into it hardcore, a chainsaw mill isn't too expensive and allows you to do a several trees a day.
>>28362158
>>28362185
This guy has never made a stock in his life. A 2x6 is both too narrow and not wide enough.
>>28362283
Oak's grain isn't often fine enough for stock work. The larger grain chips out. That's why you see walnut, maple, beech and even birch stocks, but NEVER see oak stocks.
>>28362345
>>28362477
>>28363315
>>28366311
>>28366458
These guys are taking out of their asses and have no idea how a gunstock is made or what to make it with.
The guy who said "poplar" might know -- it would make a good practice wood, but wouldn't be ideal to actually be a gunstock.
Essentially, despite how fucking sure of everything /k/ seems to be, /k/ is one of the worst places on the internet to get solid advice on guns and gunsmithing. Try google.
Oh look, I googled this right fucking away: http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/gun-nuts/2012/10/more-wood
It's a whole list of woods that will work and why.
>>28367073
The best you got....sad. At work now with feet kicked up
>>28367090
But my barrel's diameter is only 1.14", so would a 2x6 not work?
>>28367154
You poor delusional scumbag.
>>28367251
You know that two year old post about ammo and getting fired was a strung out lulz planned on the chatroom? Sadly you're too aspie to realize that.
>>28367294
Yep, you're hidden now.
Good ol' greasemonkey.
Drift wood
>>28367236
Take the dimensions of a wood rifle stock. Then, take the dimensions of a 2x6 (protip: it's not 2"x6").
>>28362071
Use Kauri wood
50000 years old, dug up in NZ in massive logs
>>28367375
Great, we can expect your middle school snark shitposting to calm down now.
>>28367294
Like I give a fuck about your delusions.
>>28367486
Wrong guy, dipshit.
>>28367600
You do or you'd just ignore me - which you seem to be unable to do
>>28367607
Why don't you filter me too? Get a brain Moran!
>>28367128
ok then kiddo. guy definitely doesn't need a dense hardwood and to invest in a band saw, router, and a wood rasp or anything. You totally don't need basic woodworking tools to do woodwork, just a .50c poplar board because out of all the autistic shitposters your opinion holds the most merit.
>>28367878
Well, I mean you can tape a old branch to a barreled action and call it a gunstock, but it sounds like OP is actually trying to become a craftsman.
>doesn't need to invest in a wood rasp
Yeah, so as I was saying, most guys posting here have never watched someone turn a blank, bed an action, finish or checker a stock, much less do it themselves. You wouldn't have even mentioned a bandsaw or router if you had a clue.
>>28362208
and then patiently wait 5+ years for it to properly dry
>>28367938
>not having a supply of dried hardwoods.
Must live in an apartment.
>>28362889
>>28362847
this is why we're told not to wear jewelry or have long sleeves when we're using a mill or lathe.
>tfw I've seen a man break his fingers, wrist, and arm trying to stop the spindle on a vertical mill.
>>28362847
>>28363873
This is why CNC is future of enthusiast machining.
>>28368115
you still have to set up the machine, zero it out, and then make sure the g-code runs right.
enthusiast maybe, but it's so much more work than just throwing the tool in, throw the stock in, measure and machine.
>>28368168
>you still have to set up the machine, zero it out, and then make sure the g-code runs right.
I would argue the infinite increase in safety is worth the hassle.
>it's so much more work than just throwing the tool in, throw the stock in, measure and machine.
True, but there is a possible cnc option for that too. It's called making a 6 axis arm waldo with haptic feedback.
>>28368238
manual will be here to stay for quite a long time, just like you shouldn't expect CNC mills to be affordable to everybody in the near future.
>>28368269
It's just so super sketch, like a car without seatbelts.
Like you should be totally fine if you don't fuck up and you aren't unlucky, but if not you get wreckt.
>>28368302
just be careful, follow a procedure and never deviate from it, and then measure twice cut once. The one thing I hate about CNC the most is that even if you have everything setup perfectly and you neglect a small line of code you ruin the part, tool, and maybe the machine.
>>28362071
Look for whatever you decide to use, with no knots in it.
douse it in cosmoline and break out the steak knife, you're starting a mosin.
All you need is a jig and a rasp, really.
>>28367805
Free country, dipshit.
>on /k/
>hates all the Constitution
>>28362071
Are we talking just making a stock from a piece of wood or carving decorative images into it?
>>28368472
Can't it be both?
Maple's cheap. Lot of good stocks are made out of maple.
>>28368448
Stay classy you future sex offender.
Anyone on /k/ do stock carving?
>>28368554
Can't offend if your wife keeps moaning in pleasure.
>>28367063
Its an old machinery manufacturer you nigger fucking mongoloid
>>28362071
for you anon
Has anyone made a stock with Douglas fir?
>>28362477
Maximum hardness isn't necessarily desirable (keep in mind that increased hardness tends to mean increased brittleness)
OP should buy some clamps and laminate some beech or walnut. Blanks are expensive and you'll fuck up your first one (and probably your second too)
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