Well after much debate on what rifle to buy ive decided the AK platform is for me. But what gun does /k/ think I should get?
I like the idea of an AK74 style rifle, it has lower recoil and I think it looks a bit nicer too IMO
But AK47 style rifles seem to be cheaper and more companies make them.
Also I like optics and rail mounted accessories like pic related. And I know that ill prob have to buy the rails later after I get the gun, but it has to be compatible with such tacticoolness and not stuck being an purist's wet dream.
>>28333800
I'm not going to suggest you a specific model, I'll let you decide.
What are you planning to do with it?
>>28333821
Mainly take it to shooting ranges or redneck friends that have large properties for shooting stuff on. Not much of a hunter or anything like that, and I probably wouldnt take an AK if I was.
SHTF and it will be my mallcop zombie slayer extreamo autismo
If you wanna get a Cadillac model, get Arsenal.
Vepr are very neat as well.
7.62x39 rocks.
Otherwise, just grab what ever you can.
>>28334587
From my understanding, Arsenal has been shitting the bed with the QC as of late. Getting an older, used one might be a good idea, but I'd wait until they get their shit in order to buy a new production one.
Apparently DDI has been producing some great AKs, but I don't trust them as a reputable manufacturer yet just because they haven't been around long enough.
>>28334587
>arsenal
>quality
pick one
>>28334604
>>28334600
SAM-7 and the other AK-103 lookalikes are great.
Don't mix the Bulgarian Arsenals with the Saiga's "Arsenal" rifles.
7.62 is way cheaper than 5.45 so you're paying more for the AK-74 and the rounds to fire it.
>>28333800
First off
>platform
Second, if you want tacticool shit, go buy an AR and forget you ever said "I want an AK".
Seriously. Fuck that jazz.
As for having it for fun, as >>28334587 said, Arsenal is breddy Gud, however Radom is apparently going to open up and start shipping soon, so I'd keep a look out for them.
WASRs are fine just inspect them before you buy (don't get them offline)
Other than that, you should be fine...
>pic related is my kit build
>>28334600
I see people claiming this but no one has posted any evidence. Arsenal AD produces good shit.
>>28334600
>Mostly praise for DDI for craftsmanship
>great rifles, both fit and finish
>great cost for what you get
Your loss
>>28334621
>Second, if you want tacticool shit, go buy an AR and forget you ever said "I want an AK".
aka "I'm too poor to afford an optic and light"
>WASRs are fine just inspect them before you buy (don't get them offline)
Or you could just order a qc inspected one from atlantic
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/cai-ak-47-wasr-10-7-62x39mm-rifle-detail.html?Itemid=0
>>28334632
>arsenal makes maybe one mistake out of 1,000 guns
>arsenal has shit qc waghh!!!1
>completely blows everything out of proportion
>no actual evidence to this claim
>wasrs having a well known history of this
>endless peddling of wasrs nonstop on /k/, even before they stepped their game up
This is why I don't even bother wasting my time on akg honestly.
>>28334658
>too poor to afford an optic and light
I built my own fucking AK. It's more expensive than just buying one you ninny.
And honestly, you think you're going to get enough fucking accuracy to justify any magnified optics? (And I mean that in reference to the cheap AKs you buy off the rack, not an accurized one that's been messed with an assload) What's that leave, red dots and reflex sights? Where's the fun in those? The guy said he wanted it for fun/plinking. It's distasteful, like putting a tapco stock on an SKS, and unless it's a special work weapon (say, for self defense or hunting) it's kinda the opposite of what's good and fun...
>>28334695
Inb4 "OPINIONS!"
And? I can't give him advice based off my experiences?
Go back to listening to MAC, dipshit.
>>28334695
>>28334707
It's okay to be poor, just don't try to drag everyone else down with you captain autismo. Go post your stupid justifications somewhere else.
>>28334781
Oh holy fuck.
What was that poor thing?
>>28334692
Yeah, its just poorfags defending their pennies
>>28334612
This, my familia
>>28333843
Keep your shit simple, OP, is all I ask. You're going to have to find reasons to hide your buyer's regret for wasting 1000$ on aluminum parts that, at the end of the day, don't do anything but make a fairly light, easy to carry rifle marginally lighter if you're using wood furniture.
How bad is century arms? And why the fuck are you autists so against people getting into firearms cheaply?
>>28335004
If you want cheap shit get a WASR. Century are a bunch of paint chip-eating monkeys. The AK market is not like the AR-15 market, where one can literally build a GOOD AR for 600$. It just doesn't work like that and will not until the tooling to build them has existed for as long as the AR and will eventually be as cheap.. if it still exists by thy then. And it even may never, because an AR goes together like legos, an AK does not. It requires riveting.
>>28335004
New wasr10's are decent.
It's the rabid poorfag herd mentality along with shitting on anything that isn't an arsenal because expensive things suck.
See hate for
>hk
>sig
>anything that costs more than $1,000
>>28335004
I have nothing against people getting into firearms cheaply, I just hate the retarded "RIFLE IS FINE HURR DURR" nonsense that many around here take seriously, where they want people to take anything and everything off of a rifle, no matter how functional and useful it is. Don't sit there all day telling people that getting a side-mounted rail and PRO is a waste of money because you yourself can't afford one.
As for the other part, the AKs that century are putting out now have a lot of issues that you can find with a quick search, I'd stay away from them.
>>28334695
Sure, they'll never rival a match-grade 20" and free-floated AR-15, but there are still good reasons.
>>28335058
And I don't care if someone wants to put something useful on their rifle, however most people who put rails on AKs end up making their rifles into abortions akin to pic related for no reason other than they can and then justify it by going on about how "tactical" they are.
It's annoying and frankly, I can't stand it.
Also, man, I ain't a poorfag, just a really fucking stupid averagefag.
I'll explain why next post (requires a pic)
>>28335094
Okay.
The FAL Currently being built, I have around $500 in it at this point (I don't have a more recent photo of the build)
I spent around $950 on the AK (and tools)
I did get lucky, and bought the Jericho for $300 off AIM (so yeah, didn't actually do any stupid shit with that)
The half welded PM-63 kit I'm converting to legal form may be ignored for now
The tokerev was a gift
But the Mauser...holy fuck the Mauser.
$600. I paid $600 fucking dollars for a $200 gun.
I have money, I just spend it on other things because I'm fine with that I have.
I encourage (read: everything but force) others to not get rails and shit for their AKs because the people who get them tend to be cancer. There are good and tasteful ways to do it, and there are reasons to get it, but once again, the pic related from my previous post is what they tend to end up as.
>>28335134
The only real use for a rail on an AK I have is for a red dot (ultimak solves that) and a flash light, which clamps on the barrel anyway. So I have no use for rails either comrade. Still need to get another AK, miss my old one
>Win
>>28335134
This is all fine.
Shit like in post >>28334695
about how optics are dumb and there's no fun in them is a different story
>>28335172
Oh believe me, I stand behind my first post too, however if it wasn't for the reasons set forth in my second post, I would simply keep silent and bite my tongue.
The latest batch of M70AB2's from Century are actually great quality, and there are tons of accessories.
AK74's tend to be hit or miss and I haven't had the balls to buy one in case it's a fucking travesty as so many report.
A few sites have AMD 65's which are SUPER cool for about $500 but trigger axis pins and other internal problems have been reported, again, shitty gun builders should NOT be allowed to touch fucking AKs.
Arsenal cost twice as much as a century and you're still chancing your luck with canted sights. You won't see issues like old WASRs that are just complete hazards but they're not all that great. In my experience they're just "acceptable" quality builds with decent parts. Bolts not overly smooth and there's nothing that's really unique.
VEPR's are a step above though. Like a real fucking rifle, except it's an AK. Superb build quality and finish. I REALLY like VEPRs.
But that's just like, my opinion. Buy whatever shitmetal pile you want.
>>28334621
Kill yourself, purist
>>28335982
Die in a fire, mallninja.
>>28335220
>and you're still chancing your luck with canted sights
Name one problem with canted sights that can be zeroed.
>>28335220
>>28336218
see >>28334612
This meme needs to end
Should i get a battul raifu .308 ak with a longer barrel? Something like saiga-308.
>>28336333
For real. Per soviet doctrine, AKs were sighted in by ARMORERS and not the end user, though he was present with the commanding officer to verify that it was zeroed. That same zero would remain until an operator of that rifle complained about it. The entire point of being able to drift the front sight is because of the fact that a front sight can be canted slightly but still be able to make and maintain a zero. This is also why it is done in a press fit method of drifting that cannot easily be changed.
>>28336333
>implying it will
I like my arsenal more than the VEPR in 5.45 I had.
>>28336402
I guess as long as there are people willing to correct people that spout shit about what they don't own, I don't really care in the end
>Bulgy Arsenal I still have, is gud
>>28334794
Bretty sure that's airshit so nothing of value was lost.
Here, have a real AK instead.
>>28336552
>Bretty sure that's airshit
noguns showing pretty hard, family
>>28336572
>>Milled receiver
>>AK104 barrel and gas system
>>Full auto
>>Spacing between selector notches seems wrong.
IDK, looks like airshit to me.
>>28336572
>Says the noguns retard who can't RIS.
http://www.airsoftsociety.com/forums/f6/cyma-tactical-ak47-78065/index2.html
>>28336721
Not him, but the RIS is real enough:
http://tdi-arms.com/x47.html
>>28333800
Saiga M3, because you'll get a good quality AK with optics rail on the side of the receiver and a folding buttstock. Top the gun with a russian red dot and it'll mount directly on the side rail, plus leaves the iron sights open for those situations when your optic fails.
>>28336800
fuck off europoor
>>28336747
Ok... so airshitters can put real parts on their airshit?
Because the link I posted shows that specific "gun", not some random part.
>>28336747
Also by RIS I meant Reverse Image Search.
>>28336804
Did someone take a shit in your breakfast cereal?
Just going to put it out there, that I did say that im not trying to build a purist wet dream, so everyone complaining because I want rails on my gun please get the fuck off my thread. purists need not aply here.
For the rest of you, thanks for the good advice so far.
Question, is the furnature on a AK47 compatible with that on a 74, and vise versa? or would I have to shop for specific shit.
Also if I wanted a fucking AR id buy one so for all you AR mall ninjas get out this is an AK thread. So only slavaboo's apply here
>>28333800
>what x should I buy
kill yourself
>railed ak
kill yourself
if you have any other questions, please follow this link http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+ak+74+should+I+buy
>>28337146
someone's feeling edgy today I see
>>28337126
Not sure about the compability between 47 and 74 furniture but my AK has 74 looks to it, yet is chambered in 7,62x39.
>>28336800
What kind of rails did you have in mind? Dust cover rails or handguard rails?
>>28337158
you had many options available to you before making a thread
you could have lurked /akg/, you could have used google, you could have watch youtube videos.
instead you came and made a thread asking what /k/ would approve for you to buy like a 12 year old child picking out his first pellet gun. use your fucking head and make a decision for yourself, it'll be the best one you ever made since it's what you thought was right.
faggot.
>>28337164
As for rails, I really like zenitco stuff. id probably get something setup like pic related.
But if I find a cheaper option that is just as good I might go that way instead.
And not looking for a dust cover rail, as in a dust cover with a rail, but a side mounted rail for a red dot or whatever optic I can afford at the time.
Main reason I want a handguard rail is for a foregrip, sorry but I fucking hate holding a traditional AK with wood furniture and im stuck to the mag grip just to be comfortable. And the zenitco on picrelated isnt overkillinyourfacelookatmymallninjaness its a nice subtle streamline look like a traditional ak without the ye olde look.
>>28337158
It's true. You and everyone who asks such lazy questions without putting forth any effort should really fuck off.
>>28337199
problem with those " other options " is they arnt the opinions of /k/ommandos, checkmatey bb
>>28337228
>basing major purchases off the opinions of anonymous people on a website primarily made up of porn
yeah, you go ahead and do that.
>>28334600
>shitting the bed via qc
>rifles not being sold domestically due to sales to actualn militaries
>impling atlantic firearms turns down IO level qc
You literally know nothing.
>>28334707
MAC actually likes throwing rails and shit on AKs tho
>>28337211
I feel you. That pic i attached is actually outdated now, because i got a collapsible stock from fab defense. It rocks btw. As for the zenitco rails, i couldnt agree more with you, they're aesthetic as hell.
Also, if you dont necessarily need an aluminium rail, you might want to take a look at fab defense polymer foreguard. It's cheap and if the israel military uses it, i assume it's durable aswell.
Also, zenitco dtk-1 muzzlebrake works damn well on 762 AKs.
>>28336218
>>28336333
I said the fucking build quality wasn't top notch. Don't go starting an argument about canted sights. I don't know the meme, I haven't even been on /k/ for like a year or two.
Just saying for twice the price of a century you're not going to get twice the rifle.
>>28337990
Saiga/Legion arsenals get bolt assist rivets and are built to Izhmash specs. Canted sights that can zero are indicative of sights that can align and hold zero, the same as non-canted sights.
Here is exactly how they check for canted sights at Izhmash. The quality assurance here is made to the design specifications of the engineers who invented the AK. You can't argue that there's a lack of quality when they are making the gun the way the engineers intended it.
>I don't know the meme, I haven't even been on /k/ for like a year or two.
You've already bought into it. Canted sights is literally a memetic device made against WASRs and now apparently used by arsenal critics out of ignorance. The amount of people who have unacceptably canted sights (where the sights cannot actually zero) versus those who say they do is incredibly small. However, this "canted sights" argument is something that is cried about often enough that it should be one of the first things to check for when buying an AK, when in reality it is a secondary concern.
>>28338130
forgot pic
>>28338130
Huh, I was made aware of canted sights when I first shot a Zastava at the range and the sights were crooked... 5-6 years ago?
Then I bought my first AK, a GP1975 that was absolutely fucked. Not just the sights, but the entire trigger group, and the axis pin (which came loose and was also out of proper alignment.
The Arsenals I've seen and shot have had "meh" finishes, and the bolt never felt smooth like the VEPRs I've owned and shot. No hang up on the hammer or anything, but wonky kind of like a good build M70.
Also a bit of a turn off how a lot of them are sold without threaded barrels.
To conclude, I like nice things, I like my things to be fucking straight. I don't care if it functions fucked up.
Just my opinion though.
>>28338217
>The Arsenals I've seen and shot have had "meh" finishes
Again, that is the finish applied since AKM's were introduced in the 50's - baked enamel over a parkerized finish.
>and the bolt never felt smooth like the VEPRs I've owned and shot.
That's because you're not using a milspec trigger with third pin and hammer stop :^). For real though, check this gif. You can see how a milspec hammer doesn't need the profile reduction that a non-milspec hammer does for smoother cycling.
>Just my opinion though.
Seems to be very common theme among american shooters
>muh fit and finish
>>28338317
I know how the trigger works.
I guess the end all be all point I'm making, is if I'm going to spend $1100 on something, it'll be a brand spankin new AR-15, like a BCM or Sig 516.
For all of my AK needs I could just as easily build an AMD65 for $4-600 depending how badly I don't want to use the US made barrel.
The SLR107 has always seemed appealing to me though.
>>28333800
whatever it is, make sure 7.62x39.
Is always superior cartridge of Soviet rifle.
>>28336552
>well done tactical AK
I do applaud you, good sir.
>>28337530
That's the point, dipshit.
>>28333800
>But AK47 style rifles seem to be cheaper and more companies make them.
wanna know a secret anon
they make more of them because more people buy them
soooooooo GET A FUCKIN 74 SO MORE COMPANIES MAKE AND DISTRIBUTE AMMO FOR THEM
>>28334621
MUH OPINIONS the post
>>28338878
>doesn't read the replies to see if someone already said it, or if the anon made an amendment
Fucktard.
