Post some wacky, odd and overcomplicated firearms that would otherwise can only be described as over-engineered or designed by a german
>>28325097
What the fuck hans
So engineered even adolf hitler hated it because it was too complicated in the first place
>>28325142
Still trying to wrap my head around as to what the fuck the germans were even smoking during world war 2 to even come up with that design
>>28325116
Huehuehue
>>28325142
The fuck is that even suppose to be?
>>28325237
The trigger group for the STG-44
>>28325237
Pic related
>>28325142
Imagine having to clean this up in your room were the carpets are dark and fuzzy
>>28325097
No Kraut Space Magic?
for shame
>>28325116
/thread
>>28325306
Don't /thread because some dumbass thinks Eugene stoner was a german
>>28325288
What the hell is going on here
>>28325288
>tfw there will never be a full model of this to find out how its inner mechanics actually work
>>28325462
German caseless space clockwork magic, anon
>>28325332
He probably was of German descent. Stoner is an anglicized version of Steiner, a common German surname.
>>28325806
That would explain why the rifle was shitty during vietnam because it was enginerred by a guy with german decent
>>28326236
>Engineered
FUCK THIS PHONE
>>28326236
>enginerred
This needs to be a new /k/ meme.
>>28326236
The rifle was fine, it was the scandal that the military sabotaged it and Colt being greedy Jews at the time with their false advertising
ITALY YES
>>28325237
Fucking awesome
>>28326519
idk man i kinda like this design. could have been designed so much better though. almost everything is machined.
>>28326448
Pretty much this...it had changes done to it against Stoner's wishes to try and save money. Notably they dropped the chrome lined chamber and barrel, and the change from stick to ball powder, which gave it a little more velocity but burned dirtier. Plus the fact that no cleaning kits were issued initially didn't help. It was a shitty roll out, but it was fixed pretty quickly and by the time the XM-16E1/M-16A1 went into production it was a reliable weapon system.
>>28325097
Is it wrong that I want one of these with a stock and longer barrel? Be a pretty nifty carbine.
Won't happen as long as Federal regulations are in place, though...
>>28325097
Reminds me of something for Star Wars
>>28327853
Like pic related? You *might* be able to get the chambers recessed to take moon clips of .45 ACP. Then design a handguard/suppressor thing like in the OP yourself. Wouldn't be that tough.
>>28325142
>But Hans, it just needs to go bang multiple times!
>No, Joerg. You do not understand. You are simply not Aryan.
>>28325462
It's a literal clockwork mechanism for the G11 designed to re-orient the caseless rounds and align them with the barrel before firing.
A similar weapon made by not-Germans just put a spiral feed in the magazine and called it a day
>>28328169
what other weapon? minds drawing a blank atm.
>>28328201
FN P90 I believe, same reversed top sitting mags
>>28328169
>A similar weapon made by not-Germans just put a spiral feed in the magazine and called it a day
you may as well scratch the whole 3 round burst @ 2100rpm with it
>>28328272
3RB is a meme anyways
>>28327132
Still jams when dirt gets inside abd still breaks when dropped thats why alot of shtf people get the AK47 due to not having those common issues but an AR15 is ideal for civil unrest or urban situation were it is best suited at.
>>28325142
And people say the AK is a rip-off. Maybe Russians stole the plans and lost half of it?
>>28325097
Pictured: New weapon design for Star Wars Episode VIII
>>28326519
>fixed 20rd magazine fed by chargers that must be completely inserted then extracted by hand
>on a light machine gun
What were they even thinking.
>>28328621
It's not particularly complicated, granted the bushings are a bit on the excessive side but this was when they weren't sure how much they could trust stamped receivers.
>>28328573
Except that's all completely wrong. ARs are way more reliable than most people think, and they don't fucking break if you drop one. This stupid rumor needs to die.
>>28328573
I like AKs and have one becasue I got it when WASRs were 350ish but there isn't anything that would break in an AR that wouldn't break in a AK and dirt is easily managed. If you are dragging your rifle on it's sling behind you during SHTF it might be a problem but for the most part it is better to have in terms of being able to repair something with limited resources. If something breaks in an AK it needs a drill and a press to fix it.
>>28328874
I suspect the bushings were a result of the fact that the receiver stampings were made of relatively poor quality steel. It would make sense from an economic standpoint to save the high quality steel for the bushings. I could be completely wrong though, I'm just speculating.
>>28329373
This is a good point, ARs being a modular design means that you don't need tools to replace anything that's likely to break. You could completely disassemble one with a punch, flathead screwdriver, and a pipe wrench if you had to.
>>28328573
>still breaks when dropped
Maybe if you bought a $400 Bushmaster.
>>28325097
silencer barrel aside, why don't they make a cylinder cover for revolvers so retards don't lose fingers?
>>28328045
Wouldn't be the same, though.
>>28328045
Rossi? Beans and rice favela magic
>>28329843
because the 95% of revolver owners that aren't retards don't need it and don't want to pay $90 extra for a feature like that
>>28325116
Fuck you. Rifle is fine.
>>28329843
That would also increase muzzle velocity.
>>28325155
You could say the same about half the decisions they made during WWII.
>Herr von Braun, our people are starving, do you not want to reconsider ze fuel for ze V2?
>Nein, we will use potatoes!
>>28328573
Nice meme jackass
>>28328573
Fudd go home
>>28325142
Most of those parts are put together in permanent subassemblies. Nice misinfo tho
>>28330644
Can you not hear Heckler and Koch saying Nein?
classic
>>28326236
German engineering > your countries engineering
/thread
>>28332545
Wait what how the fuck does that work?
>>28332585
grenade shoot out to barrel
bullet shoot out small barrel.
what is to be confuse?
>>28332607
The magazine is holding both the grenade and small ammo
And there is one barrel
>>28332615
>all these german and german decent that went in to design these things makes me terrified to take a german course in math because of German math
Fuck thatry shit I just take american dumb dumb math instead at least I can pass easily
>>28331518
Increase would be negligible. There is a reason the nagant's gas seal didn't catch on with other revolvers.
>>28332615
The grenade barrel is shorter, stops just past the front of the scope. LOOK WITH YOUR SPECIAL EYES!
Aren't Germans also known to get scary pissed off easily when upset?
>>28330644
Jim Sullivan disagrees.
>>28332635
All I see is one magazine with two different size ammo feeding into the rifle which does not explain exactly how that even works
>>28332641
There's the mag at the front for bullet, and there's the transparent mag at the back for grenades.
>>28328297
Project SALVO disagrees.
>>28332641
Jesus Christ, how retarded can you be?
>>28332641
did u lose your glasses anon?
can you smell burnt toast?
r u ok?
>>28325097
holy good blaster at your side batman
>>28331533
>the poles are starving
Fixed.
>>28325462
How in the ever living fuck would you clear a malfunction in that mess?
Why is German everything an overdesigned jumble of parts? Can't they into simplicity?
>>28335141
>uhm Hans?
>yes mein Odis vat ist it?
>vy must ve go into such complicated designs zat only a highly math skilled person could understand Hans? Wouldn't it be easier to just make it simple for common people to understand?
>NEIN!!!! Ve are germans Odis! Ve are engineers! Ve will show ze world our highest engineering skills and high quality math zat only ze good german with a calculus degree can fully understand!
>but Hans zat ist ze problem our soldiers already have problems vith ze tiger tank designs and as vell ze new rifles zat vas recently issued to zem
>NIEN ODIS!!! ve are engineers and ve will over engineer everything and make our enemies unable to comprehend the power of ze glorious german engineering! Now Odis get me a blank Blueprint I must come up vith another over engineered design!
>yes mein Hans!
>>28328818
>What were they even thinking.
theyre italian, they werent
>>28334215
You wouldn't, obviously.
On the bright side of things, the system was so well-isolated that there was basically no hope of dirt ever getting into the inner parts of the gun. The gun was apparently very reliable for that reason.
>>28335358
>Odis
who the fuck is named Odis ?
>>28325471
why not?
>>28328573
Found the underage no guns cod kid
>>28335447
get the FUCK OUT OF HERE ODIS YOU SHITCUNT BUTTCUNT ODISMOTHERFUCKER TRIPFAG CUNT
>>28335456
well, do you find anything on the internet that goes beyond a snapshot of the whole thing assembled like in >>28325288 ?
there's no CAD model or anything available to really see how the damn thing works
all the info we got is "the chamber rotates 90 degrees"
>>28335761
It actually spins 360 in 90 degree increments. A round gets pushed down into it, turns to face out barrel, fires, rotates again, repeat. The problem's the intricate clockwork needed to do that combined with the fact that there's nothing being ejected to help carry off excess heat.
