H.R.4269 - Assault Weapons Ban of 2015
114th Congress (2015-2016)
Sponsor:Rep. Cicilline, David N. [D-RI-1] (Introduced 12/16/2015)
Committees:House - Judiciary
Latest Action:12/16/2015 Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary. (All Actions)
Text: H.R.4269 — 114th Congress (2015-2016)
Introduced in House (12/16/2015)
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[Congressional Bills 114th Congress]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office]
[H.R. 4269 Introduced in House (IH)]
<DOC>
114th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 4269
To regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear
arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes.
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>>28315899
We already have a thread on it
>>28314294
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
December 16, 2015
Mr. Cicilline (for himself, -insert fuck-ton of names) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the
Committee on the Judiciary
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>>28315910
Don't cont. in next post.
>>28314294
>>28314294
>>28314294
>>28315909
Son of a bitch.
>>28315909
good thing post limits don't exist...
>>28315899
>not checking the catalog before making a thread
>the current year
>>28315922
They don't.
>>28315928
>>28315922
>>28315915
>>28315909
the thread is over the bump limit
Other thread is in autosage.
Bill is DOA in a Republican congress. This is just libtard base pandering. No need to be upset.
Such shit.
I will sit here and listen to you neck beards go on about how you will now fight the government
>>28315957
123 elected officials co-signed a bill with the only purpose being to deprive you of your rights. There's plenty to be upset about.
>>28315957
>100+ elected officials are actual traitors
>"Oh no big deal"
>>28315959
Nice try, Rabbi. JIDF shills are so obvious.
>>28315974
>>28315979
>not a single Republican on the list
Why am I not surprised.
>>28315974
>>28315979
They're Democrats. That's what they do. It's one of the "planks" of their party (ie, part of their mission statement). What did you expect?
>>28315910
Continuing now
A BILL
To regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the “Assault Weapons Ban of 2015”.
SEC. 2. DEFINITIONS.
(a) In General.—Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended—
(1) by inserting after paragraph (29) the following:
“(30) The term ‘semiautomatic pistol’ means any repeating pistol that—
“(A) utilizes a portion of the energy of a firing cartridge to extract the fired cartridge case and chamber the next round; and
“(B) requires a separate pull of the trigger to fire each cartridge.
“(31) The term ‘semiautomatic shotgun’ means any repeating shotgun that—
“(A) utilizes a portion of the energy of a firing cartridge to extract the fired cartridge case and chamber the next round; and
“(B) requires a separate pull of the trigger to fire each cartridge.”; and
(2) by adding at the end the following:
“(36) The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’ means any of the following, regardless of country of manufacture or caliber of ammunition accepted:
“(A) A semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any 1 of the following:
“(i) A pistol grip.
“(ii) A forward grip.
“(iii) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock.
“(iv) A grenade launcher or rocket launcher.
“(v) A barrel shroud.
“(vi) A threaded barrel.
“(B) A semiautomatic rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, except for an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.
>>28316084
“(C) Any part, combination of parts, component, device, attachment, or accessory that is designed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but not convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machinegun.
“(D) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any 1 of the following:
“(i) A threaded barrel.
“(ii) A second pistol grip.
“(iii) A barrel shroud.
“(iv) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
“(v) A semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.
“(E) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
“(F) A semiautomatic shotgun that has any 1 of the following:
“(i) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock.
“(ii) A pistol grip.
“(iii) A fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds.
“(iv) The ability to accept a detachable magazine.
“(v) A forward grip.
“(vi) A grenade launcher or rocket launcher.
“(G) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
“(H) All of the following rifles, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capability of any such weapon thereof:
“(i) All AK types, including the following:
“(I) AK, AK47, AK47S, AK–74, AKM, AKS, ARM, MAK90, MISR, NHM90, NHM91, Rock River Arms LAR–47, SA85, SA93, Vector Arms AK–47, VEPR, WASR–10, and WUM.
“(II) IZHMASH Saiga AK.
“(III) MAADI AK47 and ARM.
“(IV) Norinco 56S, 56S2, 84S, and 86S.
“(V) Poly Technologies AK47 and AKS.
>>28316092
>>28316084
why not just link the bill?
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269/text
>>28316012
Mate in do it for free
>>28316092
“(ii) All AR types, including the following:
“(I) AR–10.
“(II) AR–15.
“(III) Armalite M15 22LR Carbine.
“(IV) Armalite M15–T.
“(V) Barrett REC7.
“(VI) Beretta AR–70.
“(VII) Bushmaster ACR.
“(VIII) Bushmaster Carbon 15.
“(IX) Bushmaster MOE series.
“(X) Bushmaster XM15.
“(XI) Colt Match Target Rifles.
“(XII) DoubleStar AR rifles.
“(XIII) DPMS Tactical Rifles.
“(XIV) Heckler & Koch MR556.
“(XV) Olympic Arms.
“(XVI) Remington R–15 rifles.
“(XVII) Rock River Arms LAR–15.
“(XVIII) Sig Sauer SIG516 rifles.
“(XIX) Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles.
“(XX) Stag Arms AR rifles.
“(XXI) Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 rifles.
“(iii) Barrett M107A1.
“(iv) Barrett M82A1.
“(v) Beretta CX4 Storm.
“(vi) Calico Liberty Series.
“(vii) CETME Sporter.
“(viii) Daewoo K–1, K–2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C.
“(ix) Fabrique Nationale/FN Herstal FAL, LAR, 22 FNC, 308 Match, L1A1 Sporter, PS90, SCAR, and FS2000.
“(x) Feather Industries AT–9.
“(xi) Galil Model AR and Model ARM.
“(xii) Hi-Point Carbine.
“(xiii) HK–91, HK–93, HK–94, HK–PSG–1, and HK USC.
“(xiv) Kel-Tec Sub-2000, SU–16, and RFB.
“(xv) SIG AMT, SIG PE–57, Sig Sauer SG 550, and Sig Sauer SG 551.
“(xvi) Springfield Armory SAR–48.
“(xvii) Steyr AUG.
>>28315979
Agreed. Even though this particular bill has no chance of becoming law, it should still be extremely troubling that a substantial amount of representatives (That would never have to worry about such a law interfering with their own security) are advocating to hinder the rights of their countrymen. Even more alarming that those people were voted for, and put into office, by citizens. It shows that many people live in a delusional manner where they will gladly sacrifice their rights just to say "Well, we tried" when we all know such a law would do absolutely nothing to solve the issue and would only serve as an inconvenience/ attack on law-abiding citizens.
We must be weary of the future and any increasing support for idiotic bills. Because that number may grow if people are not educated.
>>28316103
“(xviii) Sturm, Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Rife M–14/20CF.
“(xix) All Thompson rifles, including the following:
“(I) Thompson M1SB.
“(II) Thompson T1100D.
“(III) Thompson T150D.
“(IV) Thompson T1B.
“(V) Thompson T1B100D.
“(VI) Thompson T1B50D.
“(VII) Thompson T1BSB.
“(VIII) Thompson T1–C.
“(IX) Thompson T1D.
“(X) Thompson T1SB.
“(XI) Thompson T5.
“(XII) Thompson T5100D.
“(XIII) Thompson TM1.
“(XIV) Thompson TM1C.
“(xx) UMAREX UZI Rifle.
“(xxi) UZI Mini Carbine, UZI Model A Carbine, and UZI Model B Carbine.
“(xxii) Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78.
“(xxiii) Vector Arms UZI Type.
“(xxiv) Weaver Arms Nighthawk.
“(xxv) Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine.
>>28316114
“(I) All of the following pistols, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capability of any such weapon thereof:
“(i) All AK–47 types, including the following:
“(I) Centurion 39 AK pistol.
“(II) Draco AK–47 pistol.
“(III) HCR AK–47 pistol.
“(IV) IO Inc. Hellpup AK–47 pistol.
“(V) Krinkov pistol.
“(VI) Mini Draco AK–47 pistol.
“(VII) Yugo Krebs Krink pistol.
“(ii) All AR–15 types, including the following:
“(I) American Spirit AR–15 pistol.
“(II) Bushmaster Carbon 15 pistol.
“(III) DoubleStar Corporation AR pistol.
“(IV) DPMS AR–15 pistol.
“(V) Olympic Arms AR–15 pistol.
“(VI) Rock River Arms LAR 15 pistol.
“(iii) Calico Liberty pistols.
“(iv) DSA SA58 PKP FAL pistol.
“(v) Encom MP–9 and MP–45.
“(vi) Heckler & Koch model SP–89 pistol.
“(vii) Intratec AB–10, TEC–22 Scorpion, TEC–9, and TEC–DC9.
“(viii) Kel-Tec PLR 16 pistol.
>>28316125
“(ix) The following MAC types:
“(I) MAC–10.
“(II) MAC–11.
“(III) Masterpiece Arms MPA A930 Mini Pistol, MPA460 Pistol, MPA Tactical Pistol, and MPA Mini Tactical Pistol.
“(IV) Military Armament Corp. Ingram M–11.
“(V) Velocity Arms VMAC.
“(x) Sig Sauer P556 pistol.
“(xi) Sites Spectre.
“(xii) All Thompson types, including the following:
“(I) Thompson TA510D.
“(II) Thompson TA5.
“(xiii) All UZI types, including Micro-UZI.
“(J) All of the following shotguns, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capability of any such weapon thereof:
“(i) Franchi LAW–12 and SPAS 12.
“(ii) All IZHMASH Saiga 12 types, including the following:
“(I) IZHMASH Saiga 12.
“(II) IZHMASH Saiga 12S.
“(III) IZHMASH Saiga 12S EXP–01.
“(IV) IZHMASH Saiga 12K.
“(V) IZHMASH Saiga 12K–030.
“(VI) IZHMASH Saiga 12K–040 Taktika.
“(iii) Streetsweeper.
“(iv) Striker 12.
“(K) All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms, including TNW M2HB.
“(L) Any combination of parts from which a firearm described in subparagraphs (A) through (K) can be assembled.
“(M) The frame or receiver of a rifle or shotgun described in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), (F), (G), (H), (J), or (K).
>>28316084
>The Amendment clearly says "Shall not be infringed"
>Bill says "to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited"
I don't care if it has no hope of passing. Every fuck who put their name in support of this should be hanged for treason.
>>28316132
What agency is even supposed to handle that? Marshals? FBI? Violating the oath of office is a straight up felony last I checked.
>>28316142
>he thinks politcians aren't above the law!
>>28315959
Fuck off Schlomo.
Bet you cucks wish you were in Canada now!
>>28316084
>rocket launcher
So it defacto bans gyrojet?
>>28316103
>Ban every semi auto weapon in production
>Think that won't lead to open rebellion.
Yshiggydiggy
>>28316159
>Wanting to be a syrup nigger
>ever
>>28316151
Assuming they would actually do their job though which one would actually handle that?
God damn full auto owners.
They just want the artificial monopoly to be more extreme so their 'investments' will go up in price.
>>28316172
No fuck you.
The "no gun control threads" is a rule enforced by the new mods that nobody agrees with, /k/ was all about these kinds things before that fagboat pulled into port.
>>28316179
>Wanting to live in a police state with overpopulation.
It sure beats England!
Wait so this long list of specific guns by name are the ones they want to ban?
It's like nearly all of them. The dyck
>>28316198
The Mini-14 is on both the list of proposed bans and the list of exempt guns.
>>28316142
Joint op, all agencies, and raid the BATF while they're at it.
>>28316186
The Attorney General.
...who is a corruptocrat too so don't hold your breath.
>>28316206
>Demofats
>smart
>>28316105
Look up "politician's syllogism"
>>28316206
Oh lordy.
It's people like these that make me fantasize about executions into a mass grave in front of the Capitol building.
Chris Chan is also being burned alive at a stake but that's something else.
>>28316198
What happens to the banned ones in this abortion of a law? They are bought back? Not allowed to be manufactured in the future? This seems to unfairly target certain manufactures and may force them out of business.
>>28316174
Doesnt mention PTR-91
>>28316253
They're Marxists. Destroying business is what they do.
>>28316253
Grandfathered until supreme court overturns it or rebels take DC.
These fuckers scare me because it's not going to be foreigners or fucking terrorists that fuck this nation up worse than ever before, it's these cocksuckers who keep kicking an already irritated giant demanding he give up his club. They're going to start civil war 2: electric boogaloo and we'll all pay for their stupidity.
>inb4 "what can you do with your little AR against tanks and drones" guy
WEll fuck me
>>28316132
Is there a law that clearly defines treason as a action in direct opposition of the letter and intent of our constitution? Seems like there might be a case for some indictment of some public figures and a supreme court case to clarify this bullshit. Apparently SHALL NOT is a lil vague to some people
>>28316206
Huh........
>>28316103
>hi point carbine
kek
>>28316253
Dem voters actually want those companies to go out of business. I've seen many a manifesto where they comment that it would either be no big loss or outright good if their regulations put people out of business
>>28316266
Didn't mention the SA58 or M1A. We battle rifle now.
Also called an ACR an AR.
Hey lads here's your daily reminder that /pol/s always right
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269/text
See the bill's sponsor at the top? Who could that be...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cicilline
Now, what's that on the side there...
>Religion: Judaism
ayyy lmao
>>28316339
>We battle rifle now.
Huh. This begs the question, should I go ahead and build an rpk for bump fore shenanigans or buy an m1?
When will we say enough is enough, no more innocents need to die
>>28316375
I feel like there should be a parody of this comic
>>28316339
it mentioned the sa58 pistol but idk if they would count a rifle as the pistol
>>28316389
there is but I don't have /k/s version
>>28316375
obligatory
>>28316389
Seen a couple, there needs to be one about the grabbers, at this point. They're the ones that treat it like a damned religion.
>>28316172
not OP, but i posted this on there, and those fucking retards trolled and shitposted it to hell.
there is no meaningful discussion or discourse on that board.
>>28316125
>>Draco AK–47 pistol.
“(III) HCR AK–47 pistol.
“(IV) IO Inc. Hellpup AK–47 pistol.
“(V) Krinkov pistol.
“(VI) Mini Draco AK–47 pistol.
WHAT THE FUCK I JUST GOT INTO THIS HOBBY I WANTED TO BUY ONE BUT THEYLL BE SOLD OUT BY THE TIME I SCROUNGE OUT THE MONEY
Post yfw it passes.
>>28316418
Most people probably expect this bill to crash and burn. If it somehow passes the house then you'll likely see that emptying of stores.
>>28316092
>shotgun with revolving chamber
NOT MY SIX12
>>28316437
>with a republican senate
>AND HOUSE
I'll take pointless bills for $1000
>>28316436
>>28316461
>dems bitch about all the bills to defund pp and obamacare
>don't care about the yearly awb
>>28316461
Of course, though there's always a chance for fuckheads to screw it all up.
>mwf local and state police start actually arresting feds for trying to enforce a violation of the constitution
>>28316206
Only the tactical model with flash hider is on list, meaning the base models would remain legal. Tactical model wold be an AW regardless due to the flash hider, but because it's on the list it would even be an AW if you stripped it down to the receiver.
>>28316505
Regardless, the courts would strike it down. Based Scalia would not let it stand.
>>28316546
That's the hope. If the rest of them refused to hear the case though...
Luckily it's almost 100% certain to not even make it past committee.
>>28316401
>>28316389
>>28316546
Based Scalia is getting old, and so is based Thomas. Tough times ahead, friend.
“(38) The term ‘barrel shroud’—
“(A) means a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel of a firearm so that the shroud protects the user of the firearm from heat generated by the barrel; and
so stocks are banned now?
>>28316436
THIS IS FOR HER, WAR
this is literally zero chance of making it out of committee.
>>28315899
>to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited
Imagine if they passed a bill that said they wanted to ensure the right of life was not unlimited, or the right to a fair trial was not unlimited.
>>28316642
That's next.
>>28316084
>Barrel shroud.
They're really still going after the shoulder thing that goes up?
>>28316647
I could see
>to ensure the right of citizens are not unlimited
Why are gun grabbers so terrified of the barrel shroud?
>>28316436
>Establishent GOP shits out a 1.1 trillion spending bill
>Dems push through a gun ban that doesn't get blocked
>mfw
See you in hell, cuckservatives
>>28316642
>yfw both of those already have been limited
>>28316436
>shall not be infringed intensifies
>>28316642
How many people receive both a fair and speedy trial nowadays?
>>28316683
Don't read well, do you?
>>28316014
>not a single Republican on the list
>>28316018
>They're Democrats. That's what they do.
Oh come on. As half of /k/ will tell you, there's no real difference. Just as all religions suck equally, so do all political parties. And no matter how bad the Democrats are, you can't vote for the Rethuglicans because they can't shut up about 'social issues' like faggotry and weed. And that's why they're voting for Hillary and/or Bernie.
Merry Xmas.
>>28316709
nobody recieves a speedy trial because court dockets are filled to the eyeballs with don'quavious' twentieth armed robbery trial, laqueshia's fourth domestic violence hearing against the same man, marquez's 6 millionth child support arrears hearing, and mrs. dindu's 80 million dollar civil trial against the police who shot her gudboi when he was just pointing a shotgun at pedestrians.
>>28316305
That one got a chuckle out of me too. Not that I think it's a bad gun. But it has a 10 round clip and is a pistol caliber... But then again they had some .22 caliber guns on the list as well.
>>28316436
>>28316740
>rethuglicans
>>>/democraticunderground/
Gun rights are more important than DUDE WEED LAMO
>>28316375
Now that you put it that way.... I'm even in more support of the 2nd amendment!
>banning semiautomatic handguns with more than 10 rounds
yeah, nah. My Beretta says fuck off.
>>28316436
>[muffled "FUCK"]
>>28316375
but i thought they wanted the cops to get killed?
>>28316724
This is a potential prediction of future events, silly.
im surprised they actually were able to define what a barrel shroud is
>>28316830
the gun owner community had to explain it to them so many times I'm more surprised they'd listened and remembered.
>>28316375
>baiting this hard
Safety feature?! BANITBANITBANITBANITBANIT!!! It makes killin chilluns easier cuz you aint gon burn yo fuggin hand nigga!
>>28316084
>“(A) utilizes a portion of the energy of a firing cartridge to extract the fired cartridge case and chamber the next round; and
>utilizes a portion of the energy of a firing cartridge to extract the fired ...
>utilizes a portion of the energy of a firing cartridge
Loophole right there, make the mechanism not based on the energy of the cartridge and this law has only forced people to buy gimmicky guns.
>>28316436
>Time for happening
>>28316877
that would be a bolt action rifle you dummy.
Not even worth reading. Literally zero chance of getting out of committee.
>>28316188
>before that fagboat pulled into port
I don't know what the navy has to do with this anon.
>>28316771
>10 round clip
>clip
Fuuuuuuuuuu
>>28316887
Are you saying it's impossible to make a gun with some independent system that chambers the next round without using the energy of the previous round?
>>28316932
This is /k/. Of course he's never heard of a chain gun
>>28316932
>yfw we miniaturized revolver autocannons now
>>28316266
It does mention to the HK91 by name though, so I would assume that all copies of it made on the same tooling by a different manufacturer are banned as well.
>>28316937
Neither have i, but shifting around bureaucracy is the least you can expect.
>>28316932
No, there are miniguns for example and as >>28316937
mentioned chain guns as well (i wonder if he knows the difference between the two though..)
>>28316877
I guess we Gatling guns now.
>take crank operated gatling
>add electric motor
>??????
>bbbbrrrrrrrrrrtt
>>28316299
>Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
Section 3 Article III of the Constitution. The Founders were pretty solid on what actually constitutes Treason in America.
Then again I'm sure in this we can allow prosecution as to ensure that the definition of treason is not limiting.
>>28316964
that would be illegal
>>28316740
>rethuglicans
>all religions suck equally
*le tip*
>>28316901
Eh, I think he was referring to the coast guard
>>28316972
So Jane Fonda actually should have been charged with treason. She legally fits the criteria.
>>28316740
Being able to keep the ancient right that all free men have to protect themselves is more important than a lot of things.
I know for sure that's it's more important than the "right" of two men (who, in all likelinhood 99.9% of the time, no one will bother for their activities in the bedroom, besides the 0.01% chance of banter) can get "married" with the approval of the state.
I'm not one of these Moldy Labia types, but you have to understand that having any party views you as a stupid prole who will exchange for some temporary pleasures and cable TV the basic distinction that has always separated free people from slaves, whether you're in the Greco-Roman world, or ancient Egypt, or the ante-bellum south, probably doesn't have your best interest at heart.
Cattle don't have the right to defend themselves. Slaves don't. Citizens do. It's as simple as that. If you'll give it away for Will and Grace on TV and the ability to buy narcotics unmolested, then you are a very stupid person.
>>28317018
MUH RETARD FUDDLORE JANE FONDA MEME
http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp
>>28316964
Virginity, lead me your strength
>Brrrrrrt stronger than a thousands suns,
>Everyone on 4chan now has to register their right arm as a machine gun
>>28316291
This guy gets it.
>>28316972
Thanks man TIL . that does this constitute then? Dereliction of sworn duty? Not a lawyer but I would be shocked if promising to represent your constituents in a certain way and intentionally doing the opposite while still collecting the related salary and filling the position would be un prosecutable.
>>28317049
>>28317041
I'm not talking about the claim that Snopes list:
>During a trip to North Vietnam, Jane Fonda turned smuggled messages from U.S. POWs over to their captors.
I'm talking about the fact that she posed with the enemy of the United States for photographs and was acting all buddy-buddy with them. When a popular person who owes allegiance to the United States does something like that, they're hurting morale and thus aiding the enemy.
If somebody like Jimmy Stewart or Clark Gable went to Berlin in 1943 and posed in AA guns and had a photo shoot with Hitler, he'd have committed treason too. But Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable weren't a fucking retards, so they didn't do that.
>>28316436
>>28316436
>mfw it'll pass by the time I have the money to get a good rifle
>>28316092
NOT THE VEPR
>>28316622
Underrated post
>>28315899
This whole thing is a fucking lie and we are being trolled. The liberals said that I was crazy for thinking anyone was coming for my guns. That it was never going to happen.
You shouldn't lie to people like this OP.
>>28316436
>>28316600
it makes a specific exception for stocks just below what you quoted.
>>28316436
>>28316740
>you can't vote for the Rethuglicans because they can't shut up about 'social issues' like faggotry and weed
I hate faggots and stoners, so yeah, I totally can stand with the Republican party.
>>28316436
>>28316436
Don't worry guys! Trump will surely use the Veto!
>owaitobamastillpres.jpg
>>28316436
>>28317128
she literally did the same shit a war journalist does today...
>>28317128
>being mad that jane fonda could have hurt morale
>not being WAY madder at the faggots who were sending countless young americans into a meatgrinder policy that guaranteed they would die by the thousands.
get your head out of your ass and read about our vietnam war doctrine. specifically seek and destroy.
>>28316084
>A threaded barrel.
Doesn't this auto disqual most bolt action rifles too? They're technically threaded into the receiver.
>>28316436
>>28317428
>get your head out of your ass and read about our vietnam war doctrine. specifically seek and destroy.
>there are people that think Vietnam was about anything else other than heroin
>>28317542
what does that have to do with what i said? what i believe the war was about vs the shit doctrine we had are two different things... no matter what it was about, it was a fucking meat grinder.
>>28317464
No, becasue it states that a SEMI-AUTO with such and such traits is what is banned. This bill basically bans ALL semi autos ever, except for maybe a few really obscure ones that are not mentioned. But even then, it says "All of X weapon, including..." so me thinks they are trying to cover their asses for things they didn't know about or have not been invented yet. They can just point to the law and say "well it says ALL of X type of weapon is banned, the ones listed are just some examples so your shit falls into that catagory because I said so so its banned" For fuck sakes they included the M82 and M107 in with the AR15s, these people are fucking retarded.
>>28316436
>>28316546
the supreme court has been practically worthless in defending firearms rights since 2008. theyve had at least a few opportunities to turn demofaggots buttholes inside out with carry laws and a few other things and have refused to hear the cases, so theyre fucking gay.
>>28317736
>This bill basically bans ALL semi autos ever
No, it doesn't. There are a significant amount of semi auto guns in existence that don't have the listed evil features or have a fixed magazine. There's nothing in the bill keeping you from having a bullet button AR.
>>28316436
>>28317775
and who the hell wants one of those. id rather have a mini 14 or a kel tec su 16
>>28317775
Really, because the way I'm reading it, it bans anything that can ACCEPT a pistol grip, fore grip, or threaded barrel. Just becasue your gun does not come with one of these things, if an aftermarket one can be added it it, it is banned. For fucks sake, the SU-16 is banned and it has models that have none of those features.
The real sticking point is the detachable mag. If it has a non detachable mag (and I'm milling to bet they will count mags that need tools to remove as being detachable) it's straight up banned.
>>28317819
I'm sorry if it HAS a DETACHABLE mag, then it is banned. I can't think of any semi-autos with detachable mags that can't take at least one of those modifications.
>>28316092
>Any part, combination of parts, component, device, attachment, or accessory that is designed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but not convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machinegun
shit, they're gonna ban Jerry Miculek
I'd almost want this to pass just to see if people actually have the balls to rise up and march on the government to overthrow it.
I want to see some chaos in this country.
>>28317841
yfw they ban all aftermarket triggers ever made
>>28317841
LOL. And every slidefire/bumpfire stock ever manufactured.
>>28317844
Odds are if Hillary gets elected we'll see a Million Rifle March in Washington DC before she leaves office. The stupid bastards will do whatever they think they can get away with. And yeah, part of me would like to do that and get it over with.
>>28317521
Fun fact:
The Finnish knife and gun store that posted that video online about ten years ago got into trouble because of it. Anti-gun politicians and the Finnish Competition and Consumer Authority forced them to remove the video or be forced out of business. Reason: the video shows "pointless shooting in a pit" and "promotes destruction of property"...
how many of you faggots complaining about this shit are NRA members? either put some money in the fight against these retards or stfu because youre no better than the liberals trying to confiscate the guns
>>28316349
>tfw a gay jew starts civil war 2016 by himself
MFW this is basically california assault weapons ban for the whole country. welcome, now all you faggots live my hell
>>28315899
>all these pre-ban or discontinued guns on the list
Are they not aware these guns have already been banned since '89, or haven't been made for years?
>>28316436
>>28317819
>because the way I'm reading it, it bans anything that can ACCEPT a pistol grip, fore grip
Those shysty fuckers. At passing glance the text seemed to be the same as previous versions of the assault weapon ban, but isn't.
94 AWB text:
>a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of
proposed 2007 AWB text (went to 1 feature instead of 2):
>A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine, and that has
proposed California 2012 AWB text:
>A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of the following
current NY AWB (as of 2013):
>A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT HAS AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE AND HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS
new ambiguous text lacking the word "has" before "any 1 of the following" (anyone who did better in English class in school than I did want to confirm if the "capacity to accept" part applies to the second half):
>A semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any 1 of the following
>If it has a non detachable mag (and I'm milling to bet they will count mags that need tools to remove as being detachable) it's straight up banned.
Woops, just popped into my head after reading your post that it's worded as the action must be disassembled instead of you need to use tools to remove the magazine (new text from a couple years back after bullet buttons became popular). Bullet buttons wouldn't be able to get around it but this would (and seems preferable to a bullet button due to not needing any tools):
http://www.ammoland.com/2014/04/armaglock-how-to-installation-guide/
>>28316436
I know by barrel shroud they are referring to the tec 9 shroud. But what semi automatic rifle exists without handguards?
>>28315899
ausfag here isn't this unconstitutional? don't they have to make an amendment to the constitution before passing a law like this?
>>28318286
Technically yes.
These days though, they just ignore the supreme law of the land and no one bats an eye.
>>28318242
>>28318286
They have no use for your logic
>>28318302
yeah thats what i don't understand about commiefornia
the constitution allows the right to bear arms and thats federal law which should trump state law
>>28316349
he literally is a gay jew
this guy used to be mayor of the capital of my fucking state. god damned Rhode Island
no fun allowed state
>>28318317
Because the Supreme Court you are counting to save your ass already ruled the states can regulate the fuck out of firearms.
>>28318076
>(anyone who did better in English class in school than I did want to confirm if the "capacity to accept" part applies to the second half)
Seconding this, as if that reading is true (capacity to accept any of the evil features vs having any of the evil features) then any pistol with a rail and possibly any semi auto pistol in general could be considered an assault weapon:
>(D) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any 1 of the following:
>(i) A threaded barrel.
>(ii) A second pistol grip.
>>28318317
if I recall that's because they came to the conclusion that even tho their trying to limit what you can or can't buy its not illegal since there are "still firearms available"
>>28318326
>>28318341
i don't understand how the supreme court can say your allowed to ignore the constitution or change its interpretation
isn't that like saying the supreme court can just change the constitution willy nilly
like using that logic the supreme court could say states can interpret that freedom of speech is actually just freedom to say certain words as your speaking words are still available to you just not all words
do you see what i'm saying...
>>28317844
>AWB was passed in the 90s and nothing happened
>AWBs have passed in multiple states as well as similar BS mag cap laws
>nothing has happened
Nah, people don't have the balls. I'm pretty sure nobody would really do anything other than stage a few protests unless there was an all out ban + confiscation.
>>28316436
>>28316375
The more I look at it, the more I laugh.
>Dat barrel placement
>Dat carrying handle
>Dat scope
>No bolt
What else am I missing?
>>28318286
I appreciate your understanding of our constitution and wish more of our people did as well. Also I mourn the loss of our civil liberties Australiabro.
>>28318367
I don't know a lot on this but federal is the standard but states are allowed to do what they see fit because less big brother but if to rediculious are susceptible to challenge by the populace but the only issue with California is the political difference and the 9th circuit where pro-gun movements die or stay in a grey area of limbo.
>>28315899
All this bill does is notify you as to whom to throw out of office next election.
>>28318367
>i don't understand how the supreme court can say your allowed to ignore the constitution or change its interpretation
The President is supposed to present a new budget to Congress every year. Obama has thus far failed to do so and gotten away with it, hence all the 'continuing resolutions.' That'll do for starters.
The number of Constitutional infractions the evil bastard has gotten away with is appalling. It's in danger of becoming no more a national contract than the fucking Pirate's Code.
>>28318419
>no magazine
>m14 gas system
>dat front sight.
>>28316103
>ii) All AR types, including the following:
>“(I) AR–10.
>“(II) AR–15.
The ride never ends
>>28318076
>>28318328
Yes, the way it is written would make any semi-auto illegal if any one of the banned features could in any way attached. I would also ban anything that looks like a "assault weapon" no matter how it functions. So no straight pull/pump/leaver action copy.
>>28318406
>AWB was passed in the 90s and democrats lost seats in Congress and Clinton lamented it as a bad move
FTFY
>>28318504
>>28318406
I've heard democratic party members blame the AWB for Gore losing to Bush
>>28316272
You're a fucking idiot. There are no marxists in US politics. Stop being so ignorant.
>>28318406
>Nothing happened
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
Le friendly truck man
>>28318530
>Le friendly truck man
I laughed so hard at this I shot eggnog out my nose and onto my keyboard
>>28318530
That was in retaliation for waco you dumb dumb.
>>28316436
>“(IV) IO Inc. Hellpup AK–47 pistol.
Finally a gun regulation I agree with
>>28315899
it is so strange this proposal, this constant push for gun control. Bill Clinton said himself that gun control is the reason why they lost the 2000 election. is it possible they know how badly they fucked the economy and their only resort is to throw the election so they can go back to what they do best, criticizing republicans cause the can't into government?
>>28318599
sorry, "they can't into government" is what I meant to post.
>>28316092
>HK 91
Fucking faggots. Shoot a dog in the head and then make the dog illegal.
>>28318599
Because the fascist shitbirds keep hoping.
Once they manage to fully fell one of the original Amendments, everything else is fair game.
>>28318599
The leftards are convinced they have won the struggle for the future for America and can keep the electoral pendulum up in the air forever without it swinging back to center.
>>28318651
This. Once you unmake the 2nd Amendment, you unmake the Bill of Rights. Do that and you can use the coercive power of The Party and The State to turn America into anything you want it.
>>28315899
that's the most worthless piece of shit i've ever tried to read
it's too fucking stupid to be implemented, probably even too stupid to gain support from most anti-gunners
do they even read these sheets of toilet paper?
>>28318479
>No Froebel
Blessed be 9mm
>>28318700
>frobel
Huh why auto correct? Meant AR9
>>28316084
>.22 caliber rimfire ammunition
.17 HMR is a babby-killing assault boolit now?
>>28317983
>Are they not aware these guns have already been banned since '89, or haven't been made for years?
They don't care, they even think the rare or obscure guns are probably more dangerous.
They banned the Pauza P-50 in California, even though only 36 guns were ever made. They don't care if some of the guns on their list were banned in 1989 or aren't made anymore.
>>28317936
>>28317936
>>28317936
this. if youre not putting money into the fight or being a lawyer, youre just a cuck gun owner
(b)Related Definitions.—Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, as amended by this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following:
“(38) The term ‘barrel shroud’—
“(A) means a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel of a firearm so that the shroud protects the user of the firearm from heat generated by the barrel; and
“(B) does not include—
“(ii) an extension of the stock along the bottom of the barrel which does not encircle or substantially encircle the barrel.
>Does not encircle
Does this mean my garand is now an assault weapon?
>>28315899
>to ensure that the right to keep and bear
arms is not unlimited
>>28317974
UNFUCK YOURSELF, I AIN'T LETTING THE CONSTITUION MY ANCESTORS FOUGHT FOR AND EVEN SIGNED BE RUINED LIKE YOU COMMIES LET YOUR STATE GOTO HELL .
>>28318672
thank you for responding to my post in an adult manner. you are a credit to this board.
>>28318732
I fight them at the ballet box. do you?
>Urge to remove rising!
>>28318738
It has a fixed magazine and is specifically exempt.
>>28318764
That doesn't do much good when you live in a coastal state dominated by one or two big blue cities. Especially when numerous districts have more votes rolling in than there are living fucking PEOPLE in them. The Dems have voter fraud in swing districts down to a fine art.
>>28315899
>ensure that the right to keep and bear
>arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes.
I wish these dumb faggots would get the book thrown at them by someone having to explain to them that if you're going to ban these weapons from the citizens that you also have to ban them from police and military as they should also live by the same rules as citizens
>>28318755
come to my hell bitch, it is nogunz and if i cant have a nice ar15 neither should you
>>28316305
>“(xii) Hi-Point Carbine.
It is, in every possible way, not an assault weapon.
Why would they even?
>>28318764
i havent been to the ballet in a long time, although i have no doubt many liberals hang out there. >>28318764
>>28316018
So the entire Democrat Party should be arrested for treason right?
>>28318801
>If I fall, Im dragging everyone else down!
Literally toddler mentality
>>28318807
Columbine
>>28316291
>until supreme court overturns it
Like they overturned the last one?
>Based Scalia would not let it stand.
Scalia didn't do anything about the 1994 ban.
>>28316877
If electrically operated guns become even remotely common, the law can easily be amended to ban those too, see how the NFA has been amended over the years.
>>28317819
>Really, because the way I'm reading it, it bans anything that can ACCEPT a pistol grip, fore grip, or threaded barrel
no
>>28318479
Same as the '94 ban.
>>28318722
The .22 exemption was simply left in from the '94 ban. .17 HMR didn't exist back then.
>>28318764
see:
>>28318796
dems literally rent vans and organize drives where they go gather up local illegal alien mexicans and other dems from other states, and then drive them in busloads to the ballots. then when based states like texas try to pass laws requiring government ID to fucking vote to prove you live where you say you do, obama and eric holder enact federal crackdowns to sue said based states and remove said common sense law
>>28318828
"They", not "he".
>>28318822
lol, whatever i at least threw half a grand to the NRA to fight this bullshit, what have you done this year to help?
>>28318825
meant to include
>>>28316546
>>28318840
yeah, I just deleted that comment because I can't read. My mistake.
>>2831609>>28316193
Overpopulation, youre a fucking idiot.
>>28318841
Wrote congressman, participated in open carry rallies, Went and bought a M1 Garand from the CMP.
Let me guess, you stayed home, smoked pot, and whined on 4chan for an hour about how muslims, women, blacks, and trannies deserve more rights than white men. Then you drove to your local grocery store in your hybrid blaring Bob Marley and picked out some gluten free yogurt.
>>28318879
kek
I didn't see anything about Zastava on that list. Would they still be considered "terrifying murderous warsaw pact weapons of mass destruction" or whatever?
I mean, just looking for silly loopholes. Of course, anyone drafting or supporting this openly or privately should swing from a lamppost.
>>28315899
If this ban passes I will live stream my suicide.
>>28318879
so basically you didnt do anything to help except write a letter to the trashcan, buy an old fudd rifle and parade around starbucks like a faggot with it, scaring all the soccer moms present into voting for any gun control legislation that pops up that year?
>>28318899
double dubs, also selfish request can you make it edgy and artistic?
>inb4 don't die we need brother in arms
If this passes...it's time to start shooting people, isn't it?
>>28318916
>M1 Garand
>Fudd rifle
Have fun with you mosin.
>>28318930
i have 4 garands because i appreciate history, i dont walk around in skinny jeans with them slung on my back while ordering peppermint lattes. i donate to second amendment foundation and the NRA, while you sit there complaining and piggybacking off the work my donations buy like a little mexican
The Dems that put this forward are doing themselves a disservice, Pushing this agenda ahead of the 2016 presidential election will drive out the vote against any democratic nominee. If they were to have any chance of winning the presidency they had to hold this card until after the election was won.
>>28318954
>Actually donating to these organisations
Holy fuck just kill yourself. Your donations do nothing you fucking sheep.
>>28318833
>dems literally rent vans and organize drives where they go gather up local illegal alien mexicans and other dems from other states, and then drive them in busloads to the ballots
Non-US citizens can't vote.
>>28318809
Liberals don't vote. How do you think we managed to get a Republican controlled Congress?
>>28318954
your donations do nothing. you dont think the NRA is infiltrated? the only "work" thats been done is from guys threatening to start shooting people if more gun control is implemented. force is the only thing your controllers take heed of.
>>28318954
Give the jews more money so they take more rights. Riiiight
>>28318998
They can if there's no voter ID. Which there isn't. Because that would be racist.
>>28319011
Hi FBI.
>>28318811
Yes. The only trustworthy politicians are Republicans.
>>28319016
>They can if there's no voter ID
Have you ever voted in your life? Each registered voter is assigned a polling location, and each polling location has a role sheet of all it's assigned constituents. Even without ID, each name can only vote once, so if you show up and someone claiming to be you had already voted, it would be noted and corrected, that's how we know that in person voter fraud is extremely rare already.
>>28319016
>>28319047
This.
Also, misrepresenting yourself as a US citizen equals automatic deportation and an automatic lifetime ban from the US.
Why would an immigrant, illegal or otherwise, risk their status in the US like that?
You're living in a fantasy land. Stop believing propaganda.
How to Start a Civil War in small steps.
>>28319024
As far as I know (British), I have not heard of the Republicans trying to remove Constitutional rights.. except that one right that the Patriot / NDAA / Freedom circumvents to do all the spying.
>>28319024
>trustworthy
>politicians
Fucking pick one you faggit
>>28319047
>>28319070
It isn't propaganda.
>Voting by noncitizens alone could swing such races. A new study by two Old Dominion University professors, based on survey data from the Cooperative Congressional Election Study, found that 6.4% of all noncitizens voted illegally in the 2008 presidential election, and 2.2% voted in the 2010 midterms.
>Since 80% of noncitizens vote Democratic, according to the survey, the authors concluded that these illegal votes were “large enough to plausibly account for Democratic victories in a few close elections.” Those that might have been skewed by noncitizen votes included Al Franken’s 312-vote win in the Minnesota race for the U.S. Senate. As a senator, Mr. Franken would cast the 60th vote needed to make ObamaCare law.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/hans-von-spakovsky-here-comes-the-2014-voter-fraud-1414450805
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2014/04/03/oh-my-evidence-of-massive-voter-fraud-in-north-carolina-n1818137
There. That'll get your started. I couldn't find the
story about the district in Philly where 100% of the population voted for Obama or whatever the fuck it was, so you'll have to find it on your own.
>>28319070
>Why would an immigrant, illegal or otherwise, risk their status in the US like that?
Then how the fuck are they able to LEGALLY get drivers licenses? or sign up for health insurance we pay for? or anything else, you smacktard? have you been trying extra super hard not to pay attention?
>After a new law went into effect in January, more than half of all new driver's licenses issued in California this year have gone to people who are in the country illegally, the state said Friday.
>The California Department of Motor Vehicles reported it has issued roughly 397,000 licenses to people who live in the country illegally. A total of 759,000 licenses were issued in the first six months of the year.
http://www.mercurynews.com/immigration/ci_28501251/california-most-new-drivers-licenses-go-illegal-immigrants
>In an apparent attempt to beef up enrollment numbers, Obamacare navigators are now peddling their overpriced, inadequate health insurance on what is technically foreign soil — in Mexican consulates.
>One activist called the ploy “our responsibility.”
>“Whether they’re Mexican nationals or whether they’re United States citizens or whether they’re in transition– and if they’re there it is our responsibility within all of America to educate on the Affordable Care Act,” Enroll America field organizer Jose Medrano told Breitbart News on Wednesday.
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/03/28/obamacare-navigators-seek-enrollees-at-mexican-consulates-regardless-of-citizenship-108986
