What is /K/s opinion on lever action rifles? What are the better brands/makes?
>would this make me a real rooty tootin frontiersman
I love them! Winchester, Marlin, Uberti and Browning are all great.
>tfw no Winchester Model 189410
Some day
>>28302568
Just remember something once this thread eventually devolves into a bunch of guys arguing about the effectiveness/viability of lever rifles: this is the future you chose
>>28302568
I have a Marlin 1894C in .357 magnum. I love it. It is a sweet shooting and accurate little gun. Low recoil. I used this gun to get my gf into shooting. It is her favorite gun now. She really enjoys shooting steel plates with it.
I like it because I have a .357 mag revolver and I reload for both. Makes it real easy not having to swap out dies and use different powder etc.
>>28302649
If Marlin hadn't been bought out (and subsequently shit the bed) I would be the first in line to get one of those. However, availability even before the buy-out was nonexistent, and the problem has only gotten worse from there
I have a BLR .308 and a Marlin .30-30 love 'em.
Lever actions are great robust guns for classic shooting; they're especially worthwhile if you reload and hand-treat your guns and ammo.
Yes, a bolt action is sturdier and fires a meaner cartridge, but by the same value their tolerances are stricter.
Don't buy a levergun just to have something neat and never take care of, that's when the problems people see as inherent to lever-actions really take hold.
>>28302664
All of Marlins guns post 2014 are great. They got their shit together
>>28302568
They're good.
Winchester, Marlin, Rossi would be my brands. Browning BLRs aren't really my thing and I'm not a fan of uberti.
I own a 336 in .30-30 and an R92 in .357, both shoot very nicely. I prefer the R92 for plinking and hunting medium game. It has a 16" barrel and is very light and very easy to shoot.
Things that Rossi sucks with:
>Stock uses a water based finish, but is easily remedied
>Rear buckhorn sight is a bit obstructive of the sight picture, but is easily remedied
>Short barrel models need some trimming on the mag springs to make them easier to load
A few other things, but they're really very small things that you can fix for free or with $10.
>>28302869
BLR's are dirty accurate though, specially for a lever, one of the old guys at my local range competes in H class(Not sure of other peoples local equivalents but it's front rest allowed, no rear rest, prone shot) with a .308 BLR against all sorts of bolt actions out to 600yd(range limit)
>>28302568
I would kill to have a 54r lever nugget.
>>28302568
As innovative as they were, they still could not handle the capacity of later larger caliber rounds. That also meant at that time such military could not order something that was more of a craftsmen trade instead of arsenal work, almost like a Gatling gun or Sharps. However it was the best rifle a frontiersmen could get.
>>28303604
I'm not too fussed on calibre but yeah I'd love to have an 1895
>>28303604
Kill? They come up on occasion. One just sold on gb for just over $5k.
If you have to kill to acquire a $5K gun, you may want to re-examine your life choices.
>>28302568
Winchester is the golden standard of lever guns
I wish I could get a Miroku/Winchester 1892 with a saddle ring. Some day.
>>28302760
This. I have a 2015 production 336 in 30-30 and its wonderful.
Marlin came out with a 18 inch octagon barrel 1895.
First time i had ever seen a non 20+ inch octagon barrel lever gun. So i immediately snagged it.
Shoots like a dream. And no remlin issues, so they must have gotten their shit together.
I can't speak to their modern guns, but I have a stainless 16" Rossi in .357 that is an absolute dream. Super smooth and shoots like a laser beam. Best part, I got it for $240 because someone had taken it apart and couldn't get it back together. Took me a couple hours with youtube, but now she runs perfectly.
>>28304093
Winchester is definitely the most popular because of marketing but Marlins action is much better
>>28304826
winchester has turned into a label. they selling their name to just about anything now.
>>28302568
>/k/s opinion
Well, I suppose I'll voice mine, seeing as I'm part of /k/.
Fuck them. They are, even more so than any .22 ever made, and single shot break actions, absolutely pointless.
Literally, if you aren't a fan of Cowboys, and if you didn't grow out of that phase after your fifth birthday but instead stayed that autistic until the age when you could get firearms, then there is absolutely no reason to get it.
Special ammo, you can't shoot it from the prone position without it being a pain in the ass (take heed, hunters) shitty feed mechanism which, on the Vance it jams, takes a long time and lots of work to clear, and most (not all, I'm not fucking stupid) of them have tube mags which have to be loaded one round at a time, not via stripper clip.
Bolt guns are better, hands down.
All that said, logic out the window, as a five year old (mentally) they're 8/8, gr8 to h8.
>>28302568
BLR is best of the best, no contest.
Superior to a bolt in every way.
They should have issued levers in WWI as primary infantry rifles.
My model 94, traded a ratty 12 gauge
For it. Sadly it's a post 1964.
>>28304093
>>28304826
Browning BLR blows both the fuck out.
It's as great as the difference between a Porsche and a chebby.
>>28304920
>i have never handled a blr
Fuck off, queer.
>bolts are superior
Gas yourself.
>>28304920
>you don't NEED that type of gun
Why you take yourself, and go fuck yourself, with yourself.
>>28303572
>>28304960
I'm not saying that the BLR isn't good, but calling a winchester a chevy is inaccurate. Winchesters are some of the most expensive leverguns out there and are VERY well made.
I just don't like how they look nor do I care for calibers like that in a lever. Personal preference however, not based on performance.
>lever guns can't handle loads blahblahblah
Wrong as fuck. Quality lever guns (even rossi) handle the hottest shit out there including buffalo bore. They're VERY strong.
>can't be shot prone
Only true for the ones that have long ass actions like piece of shit Henrys. (The fucking worst levergun out there IMO) Even then, just tilt it retard it's not hard.
>stripper clip
No proper modern combat rifle uses those, so fuck yourself. That's not even a concern.
>>28304978
>don't NEED
Okay, this is wrong.
I meant that aside from a range toy it's pointless. Okay? I also explained that if you want it you should get it, you just shouldn't expect it to be cheap or useful for anything but target shooting.
>>28304081
Oh ho Mr. Money bags
I want a lever action shotgun but don't know where to get. Maybe a century?
>>28305511
the century 1887 repros have some issues but are basically just a fuck around gun for ~$300
>>28305550
Sounds like it'll fit my purposes to just fuck around with it and only spend like 300 dollars
>>28304920
Shitty trolling.
>>28305509
Right? I make six figures and still would have to think over spending $5k on something like that pretty hard.
Anon must make 7 figures.
>>28302568
some of the pistol caliber lever guns are great fun, especially cause you can shoot them if you live near pistol only ranges. I inherited a pristine Winchester model 64 in the big .30-30 cartridge and I love it.
>>28304978
>NEED
>He said I don't "need" this, so I'll buy it just to prove him wrong! I'm such an independent smarty pants sticking up for my freedumbs!
The word "need" should not automatically initiate a gun control argument. If you feel proud spending money on something useless, go ahead. I like the aesthetics (especially Henrys and Winchesters) of lever action rifles, but I don't personally find them useful or preferable to bolt actions. This overall mentality of being triggered by the word "need" in a context unrelated to gun control bothers me.
Love my Rossi M92. 24 inch octa barrel in 45LC. Beautiful easy to handle gun. Excellent accuracy. Thinking about picking up the rancher when I save up some more for a more varied experience.
>>28307970
Ignore my shotty, best picture I have.
>>28304920
Did a cowboy break your heart, anon?
>>28307970
I just redid the wood on mine.
It's a newer gun, but that stock finish really doesn't bring out the metal (which is really nice for a budget gun).
I have a Marlin 39 and a 1954 336 in .35. Both are excellent guns.
I am really thinking about a Marlin 1895 SBL for hunting Pigs.
But I am quite unsure if I should really do it because of all the bad stuff I've heard about quality issues.
If I pay 1600 Euro for it and need luck not to receive a piece of garbage it simply isn't worth it.
>>28302568
Savage Model 99 is king
>>28302568
pic related killed the American lever gun.
don't get me wrong: I think lever guns are fun to shoot and have a quaint atmosphere about them, but they have literally no point in the face of cheap intermediate semi autos unless you're trying to dodge a gun ban or something.
>>28308845
>comparing a shitty sks to guns chambered in legendary calibers like .30-30, .45-70, .44 RM, .45 LC, .357, etc.
Get out with your poorfag surplus shit, they don't even compare.
>>28308536
>tfw you will never own a Savage 99 in .22-250
why live
>>28302568
>What is /K/s opinion on lever action rifles?
Do you hunt in Pennsylvania or Delaware?
Do you compete in fuddshoots that require leverguns or boltgats?
No?
Then there is literally no reason to own any manually loaded firearm.
>>28309241
(outside of collecting and such, which OP is not asking about)
I know one thing: any levergun restored by Turnbull is pure boner fuel.
From what I heard, Winchesters(FN) current offerings are of the same or better quality than the pre-64. Can anyone confirm this?
>>28308845
>mfw I traded my SKS for a Winchester 94
>tfw no face
>>28303648
Current loads are smaller, not larger.
They are obsolete for military use because the bolt guns going into WWI had stripper clips and box mags, which allowed the use of ballistically superior bullets. Lever guns didn't get those improvements until after WWII, at which point autoloading tech was the new game.
>>28308903
>legendary calibers, like these five or six almost-intermediate rounds from the last century that serve no purpose since the invention of the intermediate rifle round.
do you carry a revolver too?
>>28310048
I own 3 S&Ws and a Rossi 971, yes.
I also own a 92fs, shield, hi power, etc. You still can't compare a levergun to surplus garbage.
>>28304920
>no reason to get it
ambidextrous action
Savage 99 chambered in 300 savage.
>>28310101
Fellow 99 masterrace here
I've actually got a Marlin 1894 in .44 mag. I've been having accuracy issues. It's my first levergun, do they like any kind of ammunition in particular? 44 spl shot better through it. And no, it's not because of the recoil fear; I shoot just fine with my mosin and that kicks way harder.
I'm a fan of the top ejecting Winchester styles more than Henry or Marlin, but side ejection is necessary if you plan to scope your rifle.
Winchester, Browning, Uberti, Chiappa, Rossi, Marlin, and Henry are your only options if you want a levergun in a revolver caliber, but several other companies like Mossberg make 30-30 lever rifles.
45-70 is expensive but awesome. just shooting it puts hair on your chest.
Today i found out that my grandpa had a 50th anniversary winchester 30-30 that he gave away to someone as payment for housework
>why live
>>28305714
Seriously, I make about $350k a year (granted muchof it goes back into my business, taxes, etc), it pains me to spend more than a couple thousand dollars on a gun.
Maybe it's because I'm not much of a fan of historical firearms, but I'd rather spend $5k on a custom firearm or something unique like a Mateba.
>>28310185
What sling is on that winchester '73?
Tell me /k/, what are some good lever guns in .357 magnum? The only lever gun I have is a winchester 1894 Klondike commemorative that's more of a wall hanger than anything, but I still love lever guns and want myself a shooter.
>>28310928
Marlin 1894 or a Rossi
>>28310974
I've heard newer Marlins have issues, did they fix that or should I look for anything before a certain date?
>>28304935
Mud in the trenches would have fucked them. Plus you can't shoot them prone. I love me a lever gun but a 20th century army gun it is not.
>needing a multi-shot, high powered, repeating long arm
I say you /k/owboys are just as bad as the savages
>>28310986
Marlins have gone to shit since the buyout
Machine marks and burrs everywhere, sloppy fitting, 357mag leverguns are pretty hard to find, marlin doesn't make them all the time, just small batches, and the cowboy action shooters clear them out pretty quick. That puts a premium on the JM stamped ones
>>28309466
What about the Model 99?
>>28311094
Is 30-30 cheap to feed in that case? The main reason I'm looking at .357 is the price of ammo.
>You will never have a Russian contract 1895 you can feed cheap 7.62x54r through
>>28302568
M8, lever guns are what found me my true love of firearms. Without fail, every single lever at every gunshow I go to is held by me.
My first purchase was a 1970 centennial Marlin 336C in .35 Rem.
According to my uncle, after watching me hit 7/7 clays at 75 yards, I am "fucking lethal" with the thing.
Marlin 336 FTW, in truth, any Pre-FG Marlin (AKA JM stamped masterrace) is without a doubt the way to go.
Rossis are cool on a budget, but a used Marlin will get you better. Henry's are awesome for dat "historical" value, but not in the same way that a Winchester 1894 is, and Henry's loading mechanism is absolute shit.
In terms of practical use:
Marlin 336 > Winchester 1984 > Henry Golden Boy
In terms of muh lever gat
Winchester 1894> Henry GoldenBoy >Marlin 1894/ CB/ 336
I'd go JM stamped Marlin every single fucking day over any other rifle in existence, but a lot of that is personal preference.
>pic very related
>>28311127
PPU makes 30-30 for 13 dollars a box
>>28310876
http://brassstacker.com/winchester/Harnessed-Rifle-Sling-for-Winchester-Lever-Action-Rifles.html
mind, since it was for a 94 originally I had to cut another hole for the snap so it would hold tighter. I had to cut the sling shorter too, but it was cheaper and faster to order than the other two, both from levergunleather.com
plus it leaves more of that pretty wood uncovered.
>>28303572
I can make sub MOA groups with my .35 Rem Marlin 336 JM at 100 yards. Sub MOA groups standing at 50 yards easy peasy.
Most levers are damn accurate. Any decent lever will give you right around MOA at 100 yards.
>>28304920
This is what passes for trolling now a days? Back in my time the trolls were good and actually got reactions beyond fuck off.
1/10 I replied, unlike your father the last time you tried to call him.
>>28311163
Really? That's not bad actually, I figured it'd be more like $1 per cartridge at the cheapest, maybe I'll just look for a pre-64 1894
>>28311217
>pre 64 M94
Bruh I have a post 64 and have literally never had a problem. Im not saying you are a idiot but I have never had a problem with Post 64s
>>28311274
I'm not very knowledgeable regarding lever guns but I've always heard to stay away from anything post-64 when it comes to winchesters
Personally I think its Fuddlore because my post 64 has never had an issue.
>>28311287
in 1964 winchester implemented several measures to cut manufacturing costs of their rifles.
the changes to the model 94 were very minute, especially compared to the model 70 which was essentially made into a completely different rifle.
>>28311327
Was meant for>>28311287
Post 64's are fine, Winchester's design is inferior to Marlins IMO but either gun does what it's designed to do
>>28311327
>>28311332
How about commemorative models then? I have a klondike commemorative I inherited but I'm not sure if I should use it as a shooter
>>28311514
The pattern with post 64 special editions seem to only drop 50-100 bucks in value
>>28302568
More manly than semi-auto rifles like AK's and AR's.
I shot this 94-40 today. I don't want to take a pic right now because I don't want to open the safe
>>28311577
94-44 wtf phone
>>28311596
>>28311577
A 1894 in 44 Mag? Sweet
.22 lever guns. Which ones is good? Besides the Henry.
>>28311287
it's not specifically "stay away from"
it's that pre-64s are on average much better (for example, my bro has a shit condition pre-64, works alright, not as smooth as my 1970 Marlin FWIW)
and more importantly, more valuable/ collectible/ "worth" more in the minds of severely gun autistic people, like myself.
>>28311577
>saddle ring
>muh dick
noice m8
>>28311640
I once saw a Marlin 1970 Marlin .22lr Octagonal barrel centennial eddition
$425
I passed it up.
Only gun I ever regret not buying. I hope you found a good owner.
>>28311387
>Winchester's design is inferior to Marlins IMO
This is true.
t. Winchester owner.
That said, Not even Marlin actions are as slick as modern Henry actions.
>>28308055
>>28307970
How are the Rossi rifles in terms of build and accuracy? I've handled them briefly and they seem alright, but a little ugly and in need of some work on the wood. Above all else I want something solid.
I have a early Chiappa 92 but the lugs and lever are fucked up, they rattle around and the fit is bad. I don't think that the locking surfaces are making proper contact on the right lug, which is disturbing. I've tried marking the surfaces with and checking wear after working the action and it doesn't look like I think it should, not that I'm an expert. I don't really shoot it. Accuracy is terrible, probably about 6MOA. I could get it looked at by a gunsmith, if I'm right I think it would be irresponsible to sell it.
If I get rid of it then I'd just get a Rossi, since they're about £300 cheaper brand new. This is the only picture I have.
HOL' UP
*smacks lips*
You guys are telling me CURRENT YEAR remlins are okay? They pass the /k/ muster?
Cause I'll be all over a guide gun if so.
>>28312304
>Bongman
>With MANY guns
Strewth. That's not something I expected to see today.
>>28312287
>>28311387
What makes them superior? Just curious
>>28312349
Feeling is believing, my man. The actions are considerably different.
>>28311387
Is that a takedown conversion I'm seeing?
>>28312304
What semi auto 22 is that homie?
>two No. 4's
Gee Winston how come your mom lets you have two number fours?
>>28312371
Well I dont hate Marlins but I like Winchesters better
WHAT NOW NIGGA??????
>>28312400
>WHAT NOW NIGGA??????
Different triggers for different niggers, my man. If you prefer Winchester, that's all you. We all have our opinions.
For instance, my shotguns? Gotta be Winchesters.
>>28312373
Yeah, was a new marlin that got the chop and some od green guncote
>>28312422
Tbh the only winchester shot gun I like is the 1897.
>>28312349
Side bolt vs top bolt, stronger more solid frame
The two designs are exceedingly similar, in some parts damn near identical
>>28312422
Benelli m2 or its shit
>>28311039
>you cant shoot them prone
Bullshit, nogunz.
The lever drops down less than a 30rd AR or AK mag. Step up your game.
There is literally no condition that would make a lever inoperable, that wouldn't make a bolt inoperable as well.
In fact, Browning's design ejects out the side, not the top like a Winchester. It is less likely to be fucked by mud than a bolt.
>>28312428
I-I actually kinda like it, minus that awful green.
>>28312383
It's a CZ 511. I've sold it now though, it was a really nice rifle; CZ of old quality and overbuilding with a thick and beautifully milled steel receiver. I will probably regret it one day but I haven't got room for two semi .22s and I want a nice 10/22 or one of the Sig 522 rifles for a plinking gun, not a hunting rifle with an 8 round mag.
>>28311161
You know jack shit about levers if you failed to mention Browning.
They literally shit all over Winchester and Marlin, and every other lever on the planet.
If you haven't owned one, you have no idea.
>>28312501
>Benelli
no thanks
>>28312539
I fanger fucked a BLR and have no particular feelings about it.
Neat guns, and pretty smooth, but also too expensive.
>>28312594
>>28312594
WOW DUDE YOU ARE JUST POOR
>>28312594
I have a gold trigger.
Can rack the lever with my pinky.
>>28312603
That's true, I am poor.
>>28312515
>any lever gun
>less likely to be fucked by mud then a bolt
A bolt gun has literally one moving part there is no other wepon which is easier to field strip. I will admit to being wrong about being unable to shoot one prone but the mud in France would have absolutely fucked a lever gun. Just look at what happened to the overly complicated bolt on the ross rifle.
>>28310101
Savage 99 in .303 Savage checking in. Sweet sweet action but ammo availability is a bitch.
>>28312304
They can be hit or miss with the mechanicals. Large majority being perfectly fine. Metal is good, wood is shit.
I shoot 1" groups at 40 yards off the sticks with open sights. .357 magnum Hornady leverevolutions. Haven't really tried it out at 100+ just because, but based off of what others do and my 40 yards results I'd imagine a 3-4" group with irons isn't too hard to do.
There's a few fellas with scopes on theirs shooting MOA at 100 easily.
>>28312758
>one moving part
Noguns pls.
>>28313337
>bolts have multiple parts
checkmate, atheists
>>28302568
Niggers. Soon as I retire, I'll make a fucking 9mm lever gun and make milliuhns.
>>28304920
hesrightyouknow.jpg
>>28313337
Now your just being a cunt about this
Thoughts on Henry leverguns? I like the idea of a .45-70 for 100 to 150 yard durr gun/target shooting/oh shit a bear.
Bolt actions replaced them for a reason
>>28313658
>>28314864
>bolts don't have moving parts
Boy, /k/ sure is full of some smart knowledgeable people.
>>28314922
Henrys are heavy pieces of shit with a half mile throw on the action and shit sight placement. Marlin for .45-70.
>>28304920
>They are, even more so than any .22 ever made
>hating .22
You should probably stop posing.
>>28305663
>>28311203
>I don't like what he said, therefore he's a troll
>>28317963
.22s are boring as shit and at this point, for most people, just as expensive as something like cheap .223 or 7.62x39.
If you have it cheap, I can (somewhat) understand, but at this point in time no.
It's annoying.
>>28317998
>.22
>expensive as .223
...what?
>>28318011
In some places it's happened.
20 cent .223 (yeah, the shit steel cases stuff) is less expensive (even if it's by a couple of cents) than .22.
Heaven forbid I bring up 7.62x54r.
>>28318024
I'm guessing this is recent due to the whole obama announcement and panic and people jacking up prices for the "demand."
>>28318040
>announcement
Fuck me.
Speech.
>>28318040
Yeah, I'm not gonna bullshit and kid myself by saying it's true all the time, but after sandy hook and other gun banics.
>>28318060
I remember a few years ago getting a couple boxes of 500 for like...10 bucks?
15? Somewhere thereabouts?
I still have it sitting around.
>>28318070
I know. However, I also have seen boxes of 350 go for $35+.
It goes both ways, and the price fluctuations make it not worth it.
.22 isn't fun, it's risky in terms of being able to shoot, and both of those things make it shit.
>>28318087
>.22 isn't fun,
I disagree.
> it's risky in terms of being able to shoot
???
>I know. However, I also have seen boxes of 350 go for $35+.
That's not AWFUL. It's bad, but not horrifyingly so.
>>28312322
Some are good. Some are terrible. Check the stock fit to receiver. Check the stock for the grain you want in pistolgrip area.... It can break there. Check feed ramp and interior milling. Then Big big step. Check for canted sights.
>>28318102
Risky to shoot is prolly reference to the rim fire meme
>>28318102
>risky in terms of being able to shoot
Meaning availability, and people having it in stock.
>>28310061
fudd please gtfo
>>28318150
>muh nugget!
>muh sks!
If you could afford nicer guns you'd own them. Poor people.
>>28318171
I'm 21 and still in university, I'm sorry I haven't had the years to establish a career. The 25hrs of part time work I have each week is 85% gone after rent/utilities/food/necessities, leaving me with a pittance. It'd take me a year to afford a nicer gat. So yeah, I resort to getting an m57 and a cheap nugget. I'll probably be just like you, spending cash on nice stuff after Im done in 6 months with my BS and have my first big boy job. In the meantime, cheap plinking is what keeps me occupied. Sorry gramps.
>>28318149
>Meaning availability, and people having it in stock.
I haven't had this problem.
Then again, northwoods wisconsin is remote.
>>28318171
>>28308903
We need less gun owners desu.
I mean, look at all these POOR PEOPLE trying to own guns.
I mean, to be honest, some of us are just simply better; some people are just more equal than others.
>>28318192
>>28318369
I'm not saying any of that shit niggers, I'm just saying that people that can't appreciate a fine weapon (of any type) usually can't afford them and therefore have never shot them enough to enjoy them.
Like the fuck calling me a fudd. I own a little of everything and can enjoy an AR as much as I can a bolt action. The people that shout fudd and call people hicks don't realize how much double rifles and mauser builds cost. Some of the "hicks" on here have some expensive ass shit that shoot very nice.
love my Marlin 1895
Getting a .44 Ruger Super Blackhawk to go with it.
