PTR 91 Modifications
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I just acquired pic related, and I want to change some things to get the best out of my rifle. So, how can you make the ptr 91 a better gun? How hard are the mods, and how expensive?
Match trigger from hk and an optic of your choosing.
>>28299968
IThere's a few out there.
- You could try to get a trigger job done or a match trigger drop-in.
- Some people replace the plastic trigger housing with surplus steel ones.
- If you got an old button-only mag release model you could look into installing a paddle mag release that some people do with surplus parts or the tac-latch.
- The extended charging handle is a good one which makes pulling the handle a lot easier.
- Recoil buffer if you think the rifle kicks a little too much.
- barrel muzzle if you don't like the design
- Furniture if you prefer something else.
... I have owned an A3R for a few years now and don't see the point of most modifications people do with these guns. I have only bought a surplus sling and an extra mag for mine. Haven't decided on an optic yet. The money is better spent on ammo in my opinion.
>How can I make the PTR a better gun?
By selling it and buying an FAL
Cool, thanks for the input. The thing I'm considering most is the trigger job. That seems like what would affect the function and accuracy of the rifle the most.
>>28299968
Check out HKparts.net and RobertRTG.com
There are lots of mods and they're all easy, however they can get expensive due to supply and command.
>>28299968
Go shoot it a bit before you start buying a bunch of parts for it; get to know if you like it or not. See how easily you can access the controls. For instance, I thought I'd get a converted steel lower for mine until I handled a C91, and found that because of the thicker plastic grip over the steel frame my thumb couldn't reach the selector when I had the rifle aimed at the target.
>>28300223
>an extra mag
>an
Really?
>>28300274
Thanks Rick
Anyone here get a trigger job done by Bill Springfield? Thinking of sending mine to him here pretty soon.
>>28300337
>>an extra mag
>>an
>Really?
Its perfectly fine learn english dumbass.
>>28300337
>an extra mag
>an
>Really?
Yes, that is correct grammar because the "e" in "extra" is a vowel and you use "an" instead of "a" in front of words that start with a vowel. This is grade school shit
>>28300360
>An
>Singular
>Only one extra mag
Learn to english
>>28300360
>>28300368
>not realizing it's clearly meant to be "and extra mags"
>>28300360
>>28300368
My point is: who the fuck only buys one surplus G3 mag? It's like buying one pack of cigarettes at a time.
>/k/- Grammar School and Reading Comprehension
Talk about our beloved poorfag battle rifle you gits
OP, I recommend getting a wide hand guard if you plan to do any mag dumping, the slim ones are nice, but get pretty fucking hot after a couple of mags. Plus, you can get a bipod for it if you can ever find one at a reasonable price.
>>28300360
>>28300368
>>28300383
>>28300392
You are all faggots. He's highlighting the
>an
because you should never just buy ONE other mag. He was sarcastically saying to buy more than just
>an extra mag
>>28300458
This
Wide handguards can be bought from RTG for $75 and are well fucking worth it.
http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/HK91-G3-GREEN-WIDE-HANDGUARD-2p2154.htm
http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/HK91-G3-BLACK-WIDE-HANDGUARD-2p2152.htm
>>28300500
OD is best D
>>28300493
>>28300392
You fucking retard, if he meant to say "and" instead of "an," then the sentence would say "...and and extra mag..." which is a redundancy.
please kill yourself
>>28300748
i thought it was night time, what the fuck autistic shit is this arguing over grammar
>>28300493
>>28300383
>REEEEEEE!!!
Why though? You don't need a dozen mags. You don't even need a single extra one. If someone deems that they only want one extra mag for their shooting, what's so wrong about that? It's their prerogative. I'd assume you autists would prefer it that way since that mean more mags for the rest of you.
>>28300875
>Why though?
Because it's just surprising, that's all. They're probably the cheapest surplus mags ever. I wouldn't even accept money from someone who just wanted a single mag, because they obviously need it more than I do.
>You don't need a dozen mags.
It's the Bill of RIGHTS, not the Bill of Needs, Commie.
>>28300234
The ptr 1 is pure sex.
>>28299968
Picatinny rail for mounting a scope. Be wary of the length of the scope. Anything over 12" is a no-go due to interference with the charging handle. Different brands will run you for different amounts. You could also purchase a set of rings that use the claw mount.
Easy to install, just make sure to torque evenly and use loctite.
Replace flash hider with compensator and improved buffer for recoil mitigation. This costs about $90 and $150 respectively. Getting the original flash hider off takes considerable effort, the latter is fairly easy.
Install a bipod. Yankee Hill Machine makes a small, threaded swivel stud you can buy for like $3, then you just need a corresponding nut from your local hardware store. You can epoxy the nut into place in the forend, install the stud, and then mount a bipod. The mounting accessories cost like $10 overall. You could also buy the aluminum forend and mount it using the modular rail if you want an easier approach, but it is much more expensive.
Buy a surplus strap for roughly $20.
If you want to, you can spray your stock and forend. Just prep the surfaces properly and something like Krylon can form an extremely solid bond. Incredibly easy to do, and adds a personal touch.
If you have baby hands, you might like the paddle mag release.
A port buffer would also be a good purchase the PTR munches brass.
>>28300875
Because it's $3 per magazine. Get em while they're hot. I have 10.
>>28302705
I have 30 and I don't even have a g3 clone.
>>28300234
Loool implying I don't like shooting less than 3 MOA.
>>28300350
According to rumors Bill has lost his marbles, and a few people's guns.
Wood stock and handguard. I got mine from HK parts. The recoil spring and buffer in my surplus stock was fucking trash, so I recommend just removing the wood stock from the surplus back plate, and using the PTR's.
FYI if you do go this route, the buffer in the surplus stock is NOT just a drop in. It is attached from the other side as well, so just take the butt plate off the stock and unscrew it from the rear as well.
A bit heavier, but god is it beautiful. The condition of yours might be shit, so if you want a little DIY project, refinishing the stock is another option. You can go the lazy(bad) route of just bleaching it, but i recommend using a stripper and restaining/finishing the wood.
Same poster as above: here is my PTR out in the light (Still blurry picture, haven't taken any good ones since i finished the whole refinishing process)
>>28304444
Witnessed. Also the furniture looks nice Anon; good work.
Another thing: If you just bought it and hate the trigger, you might want to put a few hundred rounds through it before switching it out. When I first bought it, numerous people complained about the trigger. This past Sunday, the same people had all changed their tune. Definitely smooths out over 5-600 rounds.
For clarity: I have a PTR-32 (hence the AK mags you see in the pics above).
>>28304444
I want a wood stock set but goddamn $150 for one that might be shit.
>>28304580
The condition mine came in initially is really not THAT bad. I just wanted a little project+wanted the wood to really pop.
I have some before pics that I'll post after work. Really it was just darker/rougher.
Also, if anyone does buy surplus wood and wants to refinish, feel free to ask any questions. There are some things I wish I did differently.
>>28302935
I did the same thing. A PTR will be my next purchase.
>>28304632
Yes, please post before pics.
>>28304444
Wood looks gorgeous, bro. Excellent use of quads.
>>28300368
its not just vowels, its vowel sounds numnutz
>>28304580
You can get JUST the stock from HK parts for like $30. It's really the handguard that you get bent over a barrel for. Getting the $150 stock+handguard is basically bending you over a barrel and making you pay $120 for a handguard.
>>28301301
pretty sure those are not germans. wrong handguard, wrong camouflage pattern, no flags on their arms. might be wrong though.
Someone else confirm?
Would wood stock + wide hand guard look stupid?
>>28304928
You talkin like the smooth surplus wide handguards?
>>28304472
What kind of sight is that?
>>28304985
Yeah, like in >>28304472
>>28305037
I think it might look good with black. I def wouldn't do the OD with the wood stock. Sitting here at work looking and looking but can't find any pictures of that combo : /
>>28305067
>I think it might look good with black.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. What's that site where you can make mockups of custom guns? I feel like there used to be big threads with /k/ommandoes building ridiculous shit with it, but I can't remember what it was actually called.
>>28305085
pimpmygun?
>>28305154
Yep das it. Thanks.
>>28305154
>>28305175
>tfw no G3 option tho
Life is suffering.
>>28305192
Yeah, closest you get is an MP5
>>28304907
They're Germans. That's the earliest-model G3 rifle, with the CETME-style paddle rear sight and metal handguard with integral bi-pod.
I swapped the factory furniture for a surplus German set. The factory hand guard did not have a heat shield. Plus it looks cool. For $15 why not.
I bought a RTG 104 mag beater pack and came out with 102 good mags. Sold half for the cost of the 104.
I got a model with a welded rail so I cannot speak for the different claw mounts. I put a PA 5x prism scope on mine. BDC seems to work well.
Then I put a RTG clipped and pinned steel lower on. This is aesthetics only.
>still need bipod
>sling is shit
Otherwise fun to shoot as is.
>>28304928
>Would wood stock + wide hand guard look stupid?
Probably.
In the world of gun aesthetics th general rule of thumb is wood + plastic is faux pas.
>>28305533
Don't listen to him. Do it.
>>28300360
>>28300368
>>28300383
>>28300392
>>28300748
Holy shit you guys are stupid. G3 mags are like $4 apiece, get fucking 10+ of them.
>>28305584
Listen to the first guy, not this guy.
>>28305533
>>28305584
>>28305657
>mfw
(either way I'll post pics)
My local sporting goods store has a century arms .308 century arms rifle, it's only $699. When I worked there it felt pretty nice. Do y'all think it's stack up pretty well with the standard PTR91? Or should I save up for actually buying it from PTR?
>>28305735
I think they're basically CETME parts with a PTR receiver? I've read a few places that PTR makes the receiver, but if I'm wrong someone correct me.
>>28300875
Any bullets you have that aren't in magazines are useless in a firefight. If SHTF no one is gunna stop for u to reload your two mags
>>28305786
Yeah it is, my bad. Is it still worth the value?
Also>>28305735
>century arms .308 century arms rifle
I should drink more coffee before I post
>>28305731
>that spurdo
Holy fucking shit, my sides
>>28305862
I've read some good things about them. People were buying em here in Maryland because it was an easy way to bypass the "NO PTR-91s or G3 Clones" until the gun was explicitly banned a few months ago.
If they're legal in your state though, I'd just save up another $200 and get a 100% brand new PTR-91, instead of dealing with surplus barrels and bolt carriers etc.
>>28305834
>SHTF
>firefight
Easy there, kiddo.
>>28305862
I own one
At first I got a lemon, but after I sent it back (they're repaired by PTR interestingly) it's been working fine ever since. They gave me all new CETME internals.
If you can, try to pick one up for around $600. If you can get them for about that much, they're pretty good.
>>28299968
Hey I know this is the most ignorant of questions, but if I wanted a PTR closest to the military issued G3. What model should I keep an eye out for?
>>28306121
Atlantic has them for 600-630 I think.
Atlantic is $630
Prepper is currently $620
I've seen Prepper sell them as low as $600. I bought mine from them for $630 back in July.
>>28305834
If you're getting into firefights during SHTF you're retarded to begin with.
>>28306590
Meant to reply to >>28306471
>>28306252
Get a GI model without the rail. Not sure if PTR is making new non-railed guns that have the paddle mag release.
Either way, replace the poly lower with a surplus steel one.
>>28306121
>They gave me all new CETME internals.
Do you mean all new surplus parts or new PTR re-manufactured parts?
>>28304907
They are Germans you dingus.
>"Confirm"
>>28306692
New surplus parts unfortunately. But they were in surprisingly good condition.
>>28306893
They weren't CETME parts though, PTR only does HK91/G3 stuff.
>>28306679
Thanks /k/omrade
>>28306906
It is indeed a CETME bolt. They are different in dimension in comparison to a HK91 bolt. Century told me in an email that they have PTR repair C308's.
>>28305834
>Anon becomes aware that some people have guns for reasons other than "to fantasize about being in post-apocalyptic gun battles"
>in fact, most gun owners don't ever think about SHTF or firefights, they're hunters, target shooters, and collectors like normal fucking people
>>28306970
Interesting
>>28300450
A whole pack? Too good for loosies Fuckin richfags
>>28308627
>loosies
muh nigga.
>>28310796
Sexy as hell
>>28310796
I still don't know if those are actual G3A3A1 or if they're just very well-built clones.
>>28310796
Fok ye
(saw this pic on /brg and enjoyed it there too.).
>>28310796
Man, I really need to get a PTR.
If you could only have one DMR/Battle Rifle, Vepr in 7.62x54r or a PTR 91?
This has been bothering me, I want both, but I'm trying to limit my safe space. This would serve as both a 100-400 yard hunting rifle for boar/deer/elk/etc, as well as a rifle for the "happening".
What would you choose or recommend?
>>28315377
Oh shit, sorry I thought this was BRG. Don't mind me, admiring the PTR's in this thread.
>>28315377
Between just those two? PTR. If you're really concerned about "le habbedig" it'll be easier to find x51/.308 than x54R, and there's more good x51/.308 than there is x54R.
>>28310796
Yep. The more I'm looking at it the more I like it.
Fuck getting an AR/AK. I'm so getting me one of these, thanks for opening new horizons lads
>>28315405
Ha, I was more joking about that. I definitely hear you on quality of x51 vs x54r though, that's a big part of the consideration.
>>28315377
Definitively the PTR
>>28304444
>>28304342
>ptr
>slavshit caliber
You disgust me
>>28317707
>cheap as fuck ammo
>PTR-91 is illegal in maryland.
>PTR-32 isn't
I really like paying $200-220 for 1k rounds, and unless I bought a CETME I can't get a roller-delayed gun in 308. Maryland closed the Century 308 loophole a few months ago : /
>>28319963
Why has PTR not started making these yet?
>>28319993
Tooling pretty much. I'm willing to bet they're hauling ass to get something together though.
>>28320084
<$1000 good quality MP5s would be amazing.
>>28300500
Now tell me where to find a bipod for it that doesn't cost me an arm and a leg.
>>28320108
I would buy two if they opened at $800.
>Closet rack full of PTR-5's with Hensoldt ZO 4x30's.
Steel lower and matching grip is a must IMO. HK Parts has parked lowers that match PTR's finish.
>>28320108
Semi automatic? Right.
>>28320140
What are you expecting?
>>28320121
I heard that every now and then there's some Greek dude that pops up on Gunbroker that manages to get some surplus Greek-made bipods for about $60 each. I heard he hasn't been very active lately so his stock might've finally dried up.
>>28320358
Damn, I'd gladly pay $60 for a bipod.
>>28320193
O_o nigger thats the bolt release.
>>28320358
I got my two through him and have talked with him via email a bit, I'm pretty sure he's out or nearly out for now.
>>28320479
Did he ever mention when or if he would get more?
>>28320561
Nope, I've been trying to see if I can 3d print some plastic feet, since he has, or had, a bunch with broken feet, but I currently can't into 3D modeling very well, and haven't been in contact with him in awhile.
>>28299968
is the PTR worth the extra money over the CETME??
>>28320831
I'd say so.
>Finally get bipod in
>PTR starts jamming on ZQI, failure to eject after 10, then 4, then every single round
>Take it apart scrub it and leave it
>Come back a week later from school and the bolt head has some surface rust
>Put the bolt head back on, retention lever scratches the unholy hell out of it
>Check the bolt gap, dead center of perfect range
Sometimes it really hurts to be retarded. I'm gonna send it on in, I could probably get away with buying a new bolt head but I'm sure that'll just give me more problems in the end.
Feels bad, man. That thing's fucking fun to shoot with a bipod.
>>28320831
General consensus is yes, Century has a reputation for some pretty janky work, and really bad welding.
Purely anecdotal, but while I've never handled a CETME, 2 of the 3 C93's that I've held had visibly canted sights, and horrible welds, which was enough to turn me off to century's roller lock guns for good.
>>28320921
Is your cocking handle flopping around loose? I accidentally forgot to put the spring for it back in after a disassembly like a retard, and had that same problem. The bolt can't travel all the way if it's loose.
Maybe yours broke or something.
>>28320989
Nope, it even cycles manually just fine.
I honestly have no clue what it could be, maybe a headspacing issue somehow. I'm seeing some slightly bulging primers.
>>28320406
Nigger that's not even a part to an HK gun.
>>28305735
I've got that rifle. The c308. It's CETME surplus parts paired with a ptr receiver. My first 308 but it's badass to handle and shoot. Lighter than my dad's m1a. It'll accept G3 parts. Alpine green furniture on mine. C308 doesn't have a heat shield so a surplus one for like 10 bucks is advised. Eats Steel and works in the cold.
>>28305735
I'd save up.
>>28300875
>You don't need a dozen mags
You're right. I need TWO dozen mags!
>>28306609
I always imagined a SHTF scenario would only end in a firefight if you got cornered in a house or something. I'm picturing a Bosnia-style SHTF...
>>28323608
>cornered in a house in Bosnia
They would burn you out or blow up the house. Honestly you're more apt to survive with food and water alone, having a gun doesn't necessarily increase your chances or survival. SHTF in Bosnia wasn't just running around getting in firefights, if that was your objective you didn't live long at all, you'd be lucky to make the first year.
>>28320193
That is a 10/22 bolt release/catch
Fucking annoying in the stock form, that mod has made my life easier.
>>28321487
>airsoft
>>28323621
I know sir. What I meant to convey was firefights were super rare, and not a good idea at all. In fact guns and ammo are valuable to trade (along with medical supplies). I love the idea of a SHTF that /k/ has been selling. But I know it would not be gunfights and killing bandits 24/7
Is a carry handle a worthwhile investment? I plan on getting a port buffer.
I think I may just grab a wood stock and hope for some more handguards to come in sometime in the future.
Sell it and buy an FAL Problem solved.
>>28302693
Glad something productive came from this thread, shit got autistic there for a min.
Thanks anon
>>28304444
>you are now aware that you have never seen a "FAL modifications" thread
I'm implying that the reason is because it's already good.
>>28304907
They are West-germans and the cammo is a Splintertarn smock worn by the SS during WW2 some units got them as cold(war)weather clothing.
>>28324115
>They are West-germans
True
>the cammo is a Splintertarn
False, but close. Not the exact war-time pattern, pic-related is the postwar pattern in that anon's pic
>>28324115
>smock worn by the SS
False, the SS and the Heer had their own separate camo patterns, that is not an SS pattern camo.
