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Anyone shoot USPSA, IPSC, Steel Challenge? Any and all competition shooting goes here.
Quick question, if a MTF tranny was entered into a 3 gun match, would they shoot women's or men's division? What if they were post hrt and have titties, but still swing a bat?
I feel like they would have to shoot male division and would get a ton of crap, but on the other hand, we do let the French compete.
>>28292524
Your gf a trap?
>>28292524
I shoot IDPA. Want to try USPSA, but there isn't a club near me.
I'm not too familiar with USPSA rules, but I don't think there are gender divisions. I know IDPA doesn't have them. If there are, then at a local low-level match it would probably be up to how tolerant the locals are of being trans. At a big time match, no idea.
>>28292596
Specified 3gun, pretty sure they are male/female divisions.
I guess the best option would be contacting the organization directly, who makes the rules?
>>28292580
No, just wondering
>>28292580
this needs to be answered, fgt.
also if you want a challenge, mens. if not, womens.
>>28292596
What guns do you shoot? Got pictures of your gear?
>>28292620
I'm a little drunk, I may not have 100% been paying attention. To my knowledge, there is no unified 3-gun league. It's more scattered and less unified than pistol-only action shooting (IDPA, IPSC, steel.) But I could be wrong about that, only long guns I own are a Hi Point 9mm and a broken single shot 20 ga, 3-gun isn't really an option for me. I would love to start watching if it became a spectator sport though.
>>28292630
I shoot my carry gear. Been meaning to take a picture. Gen 4 Glock 19, Bladetech nano holster, Bladetech dual mag carrier.
I shoot USPSA, there is a "Ladies" Identifier, but it exists only to allow women to compare scores with other women. Same goes for the 'youth' 'Mil' 'LE' 'Senior' and 'super senior' identifiers.
>>28292524
Steel match is fun, my friend dragged me into one and I've been hooked since.
>>28292627
I don't think the person would get to choose what side they competed on.
I really think it would go smooth if
>MTF competing in men's division
>FTM men's division, maybe women's in some areas
If a MTF tried women's and won they'd be labeled a cheater.
>This reminds me of Bender Rodriguez in the world bending championship
>>28292691
This was actually a recent controversy with UFC. MtF joined women's UFC, bashed a girls head in, a bunch of people started protesting saying "she" should be fighting men. Never heard what the result of it all was.
>>28292620
No need to be ashamed my gf is a trap
>>28292707
I figured it was a legitimate topic of discussion. If a dude with boobs and no willie out-shot Jerry's little girl there would be an immediate call for review.
Also, I can't believe Jerry's son in law is a slavabo that watches crap like always sunny.
>>28292760
I would say it is, it's just not something that's come up yet in the shooting world, so we don't know how the leagues would react.
>crap like always sunny.
I think you mean gold like Always Sunny.
>>28292760
They might just have to drop any division between genders. USPSA doesn't have special gender modifiers, that would be the most logical step.
>>28292769
Would be interesting to see the shit go down when it finally happens.
And either way, how does Jerry approve of essentially a /k/ommando for his girl?
>Weak noodle arms with 'I live in my computer room' appearance
>Shoots slavshit
>But not very well
>Watches AS and wears meme shirt
>Talks like a fag and his shit's all retarded.
>>28292524
Any sort of international level sport makes MTF trannies compete as males.
Sorry trannies whilst you might be a womwn in your head your body has grown up on that sweet sweet testorone. Gives far too much of an advantage in any sport to have them competing in the womens division.
>>28292849
Sounds legitimate.
Now how do you think the sports would react to a full mtf Grand Master?
Here's my USPSA gun.
It's a whole mess of fun.
One thing I'll never understand is why getting people to show up for the first time is like pulling teeth. I have people at my workcenter who say "I'm super good with my pistol", but when I say "Great you should come out and shoot with us" they always shrink to the idea.
It bugs me.
>>28292918
What's so hard to understand about making the leap from something for fun to something for competition?
Sometimes thinking about scores can ruin a hobby.
>>28292918
Because talk is cheap, and if they come with you they might have to admit to themselves they're not as good as they tell themselves they are in the face of actual ability.
No offense to 'em, there are plenty of good reasons to not be /really/ good with your pistol. But there are no excuses for not being good and pretending you are, and they know this.
>>28292918
Some people have a crippling fear of competition. I have a friend who will get crushed if he loses something, even if he's brand new and literally every other competitor is nothing but supportive.
>>28292918
Performance anxiety, I have tons of people that refuse to go or make excuses because they think competitive shooters are like jocks and will mock new shooters.
Think of it like trying to get a fat guy that talks about being operator to go running or take up a martial art.
>>28292982
>>28292974
>>28292963
>>28292960
So, how do we get new shooters to go? Most of them love it after their first match, but getting them there is pulling teeth.
So I think we, as a whole of a community, need to start pushing competition more. /asp/ is constantly spouting the virtues of competition for martial arts, we need to learn from them. If you train with your guns with the purpose of being good in an actual operating/self defense situation, then GO COMPETE. Prove with raw numbers you have skills.
>>28292687
how far is that and what size are the targets? looks hard from that view
>>28292997
Physically drag them out and shove them in your car. Zip ties are cheap and easy to use, if necessary.
>>28292997
I try to cover most of the basic excuses to get them to admit they won't nut up and work from there
>I don't have a gun
I have 2 extras
>I don't have xyz
I have full spare sets
>I don't want to buy ammo
use mine I reload
>>28293002
We need a /CSG/ competition shooting general.
My local range is about to start submitting match results to the SCSA for national ranking, it would be cool to share my progress with /k/
>>28293011
That looks like pendulum, so 18 yards.
>>28293011
18 and 10 yards, 10" and 12" targets
>>28293042
Yo, I'm down for /CSG/. I've only been to 3 IDPA matches (keep fucking forgetting until the night of) but I'm trying to go more regularly. I'll also be using my GoPro to record, so you all can yell at me about how shitty I did.
>>28293064
Just having a friend there to record you so you can cringe at every mistake you made under stress really helps.
>>28293071
>friend
That's a good one.
It's a GoPRo, I strap the shit to my head.
>>28293079
Then have some stranger use your camera. I do it all the time for people I don't know.
>>28293086
I prefer the first person view, makes for a better video.
>>28293063
is shooting the 12" hard at 100yd with a rifle with iron sight?
>>28293093
Agreed
>>28293071
>so you can cringe at every mistake you made under stress
God this, I have three videos on my phone right now of my terrible performance.
>1.5-1.8 second draw to first hit
>MFW I checked the split times
My buddy has the video on YouTube to my eternal shame
>>28293123
Not if you have a stable shooting position, I've shot 8" at 300 with pic related
>>28293140
I was about to say that looks like a generic pic till I opened it.
>>28293129
I have a bad one of me failing to adjust for change in target distance and just failing at hitting some steel poppers.
>>28293158
I'll show you mine if you show me yours.
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=cG_pHdUVsJQ
>>28293146
Nothing standard about the abomination MK1
>>28293170
>>28293191
Fucking neat, I wish we did stuff like that here, we only have 3 gun and steel challenge.
I need to get out and train more, my goal is to be an A class shooter in steel challenge by next October (unofficial C class right now)
Would be pretty cool to have everyone share videos then help each other improve in a /CSG/ thread.
>>28293232
I wish we had other match types here too.
Still alot of fun, and I get to meet people I wouldn't otherwise.
>>28293252
Where do you live?
Alaska has jack and shit for competitive shooting. I just want to shoot revolver silhouette god dammit.
Also
>Steel challenge
>In Alaska in December
>White target
>on snow background
>In 9 degree temperature
>With no gloves
Just fuck my shit up.
>>28293232
two ranges near me do rifle leagues
you start with your rifle then transition to your pistol on part of the course, they also make you do reloads
its absolutely fucking awesome, the added stress shows you things you didnt realize too. On my 556R I found out that one of my mags was a bit too worn and wouldnt lock properly in the gun, caused a fail to feed, the solution being to say "FUCK THIS MAG" and going to pistol town on some targets
>>28293286
NM, middle of nowhere. aside from the monthly one, next nearest match is 2 hr away
>>28293300
>the solution being to say "FUCK THIS MAG" and going to pistol town on some targets
That sounds fun as fuck!
You think it has made you a better shooter?
>>28293301
That sucks. Is it an official match you can rank in nationally? I'm actually pretty excited that my local range is going to be submitting scores for us.
>>28293356
yeah, it's official. but one match a month isn't enough for me.
>>28293406
What's your rank/class?
I understand, one steel match every two weeks blows, you loose all your momentum
>>28293423
I just started and have a number now, so I'm still unclassed. I compete in limited
>>28293423
got a Webm made of my fuck up.
>>28293432
>I compete in limited
My neigro amigo, I shoot centerfire limited. I fucking hate the way steel challenge ranks shooters all together with no consideration for equipment.
>You shot a limited revolver? Slow time, B class
Same guy, same day, same match, open division race gun
>Holy shit, you're so fast, A class, almost master. Way faster than that revolver fag.
Kinda pisses me off when I'm ranked lower than someone because they have an equipment advantage not a skill advantage. Feels like they're cheating I guess.
>MFW I shoot faster than someone in ooen division
>>28293466
I really like fiddling with shit, so production was out of the question for me.
>>28293443
What about the one where you loaded 10 rounds in a 17 round mag, shot five targets with five shots, then shot the stop plate twice, and ran out of ammo in the middle of the next run and had to reload on the clock. Because that was fucking hilarious.
>>28293515
I think they had a brain fart and misheard me when I said I was doing center fire limited. And I did notice I hit the stop plate twice. As for reloading on the clock, I take that as practicing for a real world scenario.
>>28293487
I like tweaking shit too, my guns all have work done.
I'd like to try open division but I couldn't afford it.
>>28293530
You totally only loaded 10 in that mag though.
I agree, you have a really good handle on reloads and malfunctions, its impressive.
I've always wanted to try shooting IDPA eventually. I just want to get more proficient first.
>>28293539
no, I'm pretty sure I've topped off all my mags.
>>28293539
well I'm off to bed, see ya in the morning.
>>28293564
Watch the video, you shoot six, then four, and it locks open.
>>28293554
Thats the #1 excuse for never going to a game. Go shoot, so long as you're safe that's all that matters, you will get better faster if you go to matches.
I feel like doing silly shit with guns for fun.
Could I get away with doing a three gun match with a Micro Draco as my pistol, an AK for my rifle and a Saiga-12 for my shotgun?
>>28293572
I just did....huh, I think the ammo gremlins got to that.
>>28293572
I think what happened with hitting the stop plate twice was I jut nicked it and you see the ricochet on the backstop.
>>28293576
Depends on the match. There are rules about what calibers can be used for what gun, although if you find a match that's more for fun than money and bragging rights (Ian's 2 gun thing for example) they may let you dick around as long as you're not being unsafe.
>>28293579
I was wondering what the fuck was up with it too. Shit happens I guess, live and learn.
>>28293576
Up to match director and RO
But probably not because the pistol targets could be damaged.
>>28293592
go take a look at past videos and tell me what times you want to have made webms for ya, and I'll make it. Gnight.
>>28293576
I think you can shoot open
note that you will not get that many points because major is minimum 9mm so an AR pistol in 9mm would be okay
>>28293610
Do they make tiny 9mm AK pistols?
I just want the three AK combo.
>>28292899
Some of the old cunts wouldnt be happy but if a MTF where to win Worlds then their is nothing anyone could say. Cant bitch too much when a chick with a dick beats you at your own game lol.
Well other then the magnitude of trap jokes that would be unleashed.
>>28293614
That would generate butt pain to the point of requiring a new medical field.
>>28293613
I think you can still use your normal AK you just won't get that many points. if you're going for fun I don't think the points matter to begin with
>>28292524
one time in months somebody actually asks about competition shooting
and it's a trap thread
fucking /k/
>>28293028
Pssh, I'll go
>>28293695
You going to participate or just whine like a bitch?
>>28293191
what a shit run
>>28293706
do you have a question to ask me ?
then ask
>>28293715
Do you even compete in
>Austrian
Oh, you're one of those pompous assholes that think 3 gun and IPSC is "American style 80's combat shooting"
Go back you annexing poland and shooting bulls-eye faggot.
>>28293731
>IPSC
you faggots don't even shoot IPSC
you shoot USPSA which is watered down crap with half the rulebook bent as you like it
but i'm sure you hold the rank of grandmaster anon
>>28293745
I'M GRANDMASTER OF FUCKING YOUR MOM IN THE ASS
sorry, I'm not even involved in this conversation, I just wanted to post that
ps, I put it all in her x-ring
>>28293745
>grandmaster anon
That would be a cool rank.
Also, you got your Trip wrong, it should be "Australian" because you're a grandmaster shitposter. Get the fuck out of the thread if you don't actually shoot competition.
>>28293702
I wish more of my friends were like this.
>>28293764
I'm pretty sure he does more competition shooting than anybody else in the thread or otherwise they would take his funs away
>>28293764
>Australia
joke never gets old chap
>Get the fuck out of the thread if you don't actually shoot competition.
if you actually did any competition shooting whatsoever you would have gotten it by now
>>28293775
>otherwise they would take his funs away
That's funny as shit, and also probably why he is an elitist asshole.
>>28293745
He fuck nuts, how does it feel to be arguing with people that can own guns just for fun? Does it keep you awake at night that we don't need to have minimum range scores to own pistols?
What's it like being a serf?
>>28293792
another quality thread
>>28293851
Was until you got here.
Anyone have good youtube videos worth watching?
>>28292997
I'd go but the closest matches are an hour's drive and I am horrible when it comes to mornings to begin with
>>28293894
What discipline is the match?
>>28293851
wait do you do competition shooting now or not ?
kinda confused here
>>28293993
yes i do
>>28293993
He has to if he's actually from Nazi land and owns pistols.
>>28294020
somewhat
i have to if i want more than 2 pistols
the first 2 go through as self defense
>>28294027
>as self defense
I'm impressed that's a clause. Congratulations.
What pistols do you own?
>>28294029
couple CZs, a 1911, a P08, a S&W 625 and a S&W 610
>>28294064
Got a favorite? I only have a couple of CZ clones but I love them, never had a 1911.
What competitions do you participate in?
>>28292524
Question!
>Is the first shooter in this video Max Michel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf4SrM5ae2g
Why does he seem to be shooting so fucking slow?
>>28294419
I think it is.
He's not shooting an Open Division gun, that's why he's slower than normal
>>28292707
Fallon Fox never made it to UFC. Neither did Cris Cyborg.
>>28292524
You know what's fucking sad? How unpopular shooting sports are.
>Nobody knows about them
>Hardly anybody shoots in them
>They are a god fucking awful spectator sport
>No major company will touch them for sponsorship
>>28295247
By major company you mean outside firearms right?
Cause mossberg and Hornady events look pretty crazy.
>>28295252
Yeah, I mean you don't see
>"The 2016 World Speed Shooting Championships! Brought to you by Ford!"
If we could just make these fucking events spectator sports we'd be golden but it's never going to happen. You'd have to be able to shoot it up in a stadium without killing spectators.
>Can you imagine a simunition sport where fans got to watch their teams go full operator on one another in a shoot house with plexi-glass roof to look down through?
>MFW Imagining foot ball team equivalents double tapping the home groups team leader in the 4th quarter
>Half time show is Delta Force clearing the game day shoot house with live fire
IDPA here, still unclassified though.
>>28295361
Maybe one day, we can only dream for now.
>>28295361
>PVP simunition matches
Sounds pretty sweet, like airshit but a bit less retarded.
>>28295574
It would re-define contact sport.
>>28295557
>IDPA here
What do you shoot? Got a picture of your gear? Are you working on getting properly ranked?
>>28292524
My Steel Challenge rig.
>Minimalist as fuck.
Traps aren't females you fucking faggots and no amount of mental gymnastics will change that.
>>28295658
Oh my god, are you poor or gay?
>CZ75
Gay.
>>28295612
I'm waiting for a classifier in my area, yeah. No pictures, I'll take one when I get home. I use a west German P226 (I know, weird, but it's what I have and it works).
>>28296063
That's funny, my first Steel Challenge gun was a German P228. Now I use >>28295658
I'm still waiting for my range to institute score submission to the SCSA, should be next month. I did the math on my old scores and I would be 7 seconds short of "B" class.
I'm doing a retarded amount of dry fire to get better at home so when they do submit scores I'll be in class B
>>28296134
You also used your .38 Super at another match.
>>28294104
IPSC handgun, IPSC rifle, SASS, static semiautomatic rifle shooting, handgun precision shooting and so on
pretty much everything that makes bang besides the olympic shit
>>28296480
That's true, and it's an awesome pistol, but I'm giving the 9x19 a little love.
My goal is to be an A class shooter by October.
Have you seen the 3 gun courses of youtube?
>>28292524
Question from a new shooter.
>Should I start with a normal gun, or one of those race guns?
Seems like the race gun would be easier.
>>28300427
USPSA has different divisions for race guns and stock guns. Unless you are super rich, stick with stock for now. No need dropping thousands of dollars on a sport you may find you don't even enjoy.
>>28300454
Is there a stock gun that is easy to convert to a race gun later?
Also, I have a question, you always see the frame drilled for the scope mount, why not use one of those accessory rail scope mounts that go up over the top?
>>28292918
I'm kind of like that. I procrastinate anything that is competitive because I'm afraid to learn how terrible I am. It always goes like this:
>start something
>become ok at it, folks around me being supportive
>plateau somewhere right around when competition gets serious
>become frustrated and angry at my incompetence and inability to improve
>tfw will never amount to anything no matter how hard I try
>what was once fun is now ruined.
this is why I hate competition. Alas it is the only way to do something right. I'm going to go drink now.
>>28295361
A simunition version of pic related?
10/10 would watch.
>>28300664
Dude, when are we going to start streaming competitive Simunition matches?
>>28300630
>become frustrated and angry at my incompetence and inability to improve
I'm the same way
>TFW I instinctively compare my competition times to world records and get bummed out
>TFW I can't stop myself from doing it, but (for the moment) it's driving me to practice more
I think you just need to show up and not give a fuck. There are no real prizes in competitive shooting aside from trophies and one or two grand prize matches, so just ignore the competition aspect and shoot for fun. You're not going to win anything anyway.
>>28300664
>Couldn't kill the two spetsnaz guys for the longest time
>Get one sometimes but the other would always kill me
>Finally say "Fuck This" and use the knife
>Shanki Breeki the fuckers from behind and win.
>>28300678
I think this could be a profitable startup.
>Get an old warehouse and fill it with shit
>Get 10 camera drones for streaming the whole gig over the intertubes
>Get some wannabe oper8ors / actual oper8rs / practical shooting competition players
>Initially, you'd pay to compete, fees minus ammo cost turns into prize money.
>Two styles:
>Evenly-matched where everyone gets the same gear and carefully chosen teams for a level match
>Open match where you bring your own gear (or gear that was sponsored by someone if you're good)
>Add betting to the mix for a real incentive.
>...
>Profit?
>>28301308
Throw some helmet and/or gun mounted GoPros in there too.
>>28301308
>>28301339
So it would be like that movie Gamer, but simunition and free will?
>>28301479
Yes.
>>28301503
That's pretty fucking metal, I'd watch/play
>>28300520
Can anyone answer this? Why shouldn't I just use pic related?
>>28302990
because it builds too high
you want the optic as low as possible without affecting the ejection
>>28303909
Makes sense. Can you just drill and tap a frame and install a traditional open division mount?
>>28304033
of course you can and that's what gunsmiths' do if they convert a normal gun to open gun
however it's not just a reddot that does it
nearly all open guns have a compensator and use matching ammo that has an excess load of gas to make it work
most normal pistols can't handle +P+ pressures all the time and the barrels or slides break or crack
that's why most open guns are STI 2011s and not custom refitted service pistols
>>28304054
Couldn't I just use a powder that will still be burning at the muzzle and load really light bullets?
I want to get into shooting open, but I'm not doing it full time, and I really can't afford a $5000 gun. That's why I'm interested in doing a lot of the work myself.
>>28304077
nobody said anything about a $5000 gun
you can start at $2000 probably
but the main point is handloading
there is no point in buying an open division pistol to shoot major factor if you don't reload
because you can't either buy ammo that reaches the major factor or because it's so stupidly expensive that you won't shoot it anyway
and yes if you do reload you can adjust your loads to fit your shooting style and gun
if you have a fuckhuge compensator with barrel ports then you'll need a shitload of powder for a shitload of gas
if you run a small tiny comp then you won't have to stuff that much into the cartridge
but keep in mind that more gas means more stabilisation
all the beformentioned applies to shooting major factor though
there is no major factor in most steelchallenge shooting competitions
thus people run light open guns with small comps to shoot factory ammo or plain low factor handloads
also how's your brass situation ? if you lack free brass then shit
>>28304097
>brass situation
About 500 of my own once fired, and 500 new unfired .38 Supercomp. No stupid hot loads so far so the brass is in good condition. I also have a friend that works at Cabela's and I use his discount on reloading supplies and avoid shipping by picking up in store. This is still just a side hobby, so I won't be buying more than 500-1000 rounds of brass every month or so. Even on Midway that's $175 max.
I have no need to reach major power factor with steel challenge. And the gun I'm using is a .38 Super built on a 10mm frame.
>I know I'm going to get shit for shooting a Tanfoglio but the new models are beefy as shit, and the added weight negates a lot of recoil.
Since I would be going from scratch I could use any type of comp that suits the gun, but I really don't think need a massive comp on the muzzle, a small one that moves just enough gas to get the job done should work.
>>28304159
why are you shooting 38super if you don't want to reach major factor ?
for simple steelchallenge i would just get a 9mm barrel simply because the brass is fucking free everywhere
>Tangfolio
which one exactly did you get ?
>>28304169
I just like the round, 38Super is neat as hell and I love shooting the gun.
I found a deal on the standard full sized steel one in that stupid "Wunder" finish and picked it up for novelty, I fell in love with it. I know it's the shittiest one in the catalog but it shoots well, and the recoil impulse is light.
I'm not too worried about the structural integrity, some stupid fuckers have been making the new ones 9x23mm in their garage and so far none have rapidly disassembled. (Amazingly)
I do have a few 9mm guns, but I don't want to fuck with them because either I like them as they are, or I carry them. The .38S has always been a novelty gun so I don't mind fucking with it.
>>28304203
well do you have a threaded barrel then ?
>>28304207
Nope, but there is a smith in town that will extend and thread pistol barrels for a few hundred. Or port an stock barrel and slide for less. (But I'd rather have the barrel done, it's the only thing I will not touch at home)
I couldn't find a threaded barrel for the .38 Super online
This gun is kinda a project that is just for shooting at matches, unless it would be vastly less expensive to buy a new open ready gun I'd rather convert it and make it useful. Right now it just plays range toy, I like my guns to have a purpose, even if it's just to be a match tool.
>>28304229
>extend and thread pistol barrels
that sounds structurally unsound mate
also for "a few hundred" you can get a brand new barrel from a custom shop
>>28292787
And never have a female ever win anything ever again?
Not gonna happen.
>>28304242
I'll look around, got anywhere in mind that I could look for a quote from?
>>28304245
You may be forgetting someone.
>>28293123
With a stable shooting position you should literally never miss at 100 yards.
Offhand would be an entertaining challenge but still not insanely difficult.
>>28304262
i can't help you out with that mate
i actually am from Austria and my tips won't help you much
>>28293232
I know that feel.
Different guy, mainly shoot skeet and trap.
>currently trying to get all 4 gauges to A or better in skeet (currently B/B/C/A with 12,20,28,.410 respectively. No idea why I'm so much better with the smallbore)
>currently trying to work back past the 24yd line in strap
>>28293300
eeh. I had a doublefeed on a 200m sector during a 2-gun competition. Instead of just letting the targets go I transitioned to pistol. I actually managed to (most likely accidentally) hit one of the targets too. Everyone got a laugh out of the guy trying to longball a 10" silhouette with a 1911.
>>28304271
Well thanks for the conversation anyway, it helped get the problem solving in motion. What's your preferred competition pistol?
>>28304264
You really shouldn't ever miss a 12" plate from 100 in any traditional shooting stance. Especially if you have a sling.
>>28304262
ooh right, Jerry's girl.
My bad. Yeah, she'd still be competitive.
>>28304290
Didn't she win her first international competition at 17, over in Europe?
>>28292524
>we do let the French compete
They normally shoot SSD, or Stock Surrender Division. Requires no rounds, no mag changes, no movement. They shoot stock division because nobody wants to throw an expensive customized gun onto the ground.
>>28304288
my 15 year old fucked up CZ IPSC Standard (the predecessor of the Tactical Sport) in 40sw
it looks like shit but i love it
>>28304317
>looks like shit
The hell it does, that thing is sexy as fuck. I love the CZ look, especially one that gets used.
You win any big matches with it?
This is my clunker of a .38 by the way.
>>28304352
>You win any big matches with it?
nah man pistol shooting isn't my thing
I'm above average but far from the top
i do excel at pistol caliber rifle shooting though
that's why you find so many 9mm AR posts by me
>>28304362
>pistol caliber rifle shooting
Is that part of an actual sport over there? Because it sounds fun.
I saw some of your posts, really cool new gun.
>>28304369
the thing is most of west and central europe lacks real dynamic rifle ranges
and pistol caliber rifles are well, pistol caliber
so you can shoot them at normal pistol ranges
most of the real rifle matches are done in northern and eastern europe where they have the space
>>28304419
Okay, so it's more of an expedient solution to the environment? That still really cool, do they do stuff like 3 Gun over there?
>>28304426
>3gun
same problem
hardly any matches because you can only do them at either really small levels or in big open spaces
which do exist, but since guns are bad nobody will rent them to shooting clubs
so not many big 3gun matches
>>28304437
Well that's disappointing, Think it will ever change? I feel like dynamic shooting sports are growing in America, it would be very cool to see them get more popular around the world.
>>28292524
>Quick question, if a MTF tranny was entered into a 3 gun match,
just drove home pissed to the eyeballs and read that,
>would they shoot women's or men's division
nah, I need my reading glasses.
> What if they were post hrt and have titties, but still swing a bat?
I feel like they would have to shoot male division and would get a ton of crap, but on the other hand, we do let the French compete.
Shit this tory nigger is serious
>>28304469
The fuck are you on about? Speak English man!
