http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-tests-new-icbm-from-railroad-car/
>Rail-mobile launcher used in DF-41 ejection test
>U.S. intelligence agencies recently monitored a Chinese test of a new rail car-based long-range missile capable of hitting targets throughout the United States.
>The canister ejection test of a DF-41 missile from a rail-mobile launcher was detected on Dec. 5 in western China, said defense officials familiar with reports of the test.
>However, Chinese rail-based missile development has been carried out in the past at the Wuzhai missile test center, also known as the Taiyuan satellite launch center since 1982, according to declassified CIA documents. The launch site is located in China’s central Shanxi Province.
>The test this month marks a significant milestone for Chinese strategic weapons developers and demonstrates that Beijing is moving ahead with building and deploying the DF-41 on difficult-to-locate rail cars, in addition to previously-known road-mobile launchers, the officials said.
DF-41 ICBM got train-bount!
So, what are the advantages of a train-based ICBM system?
>>28284758
>Previous disclosures from China on the DF-41, including Internet photographs, all showed the heavy missile deployed on a wheeled transporter erector launcher that is moved on roads.
>The DF-41, with a range of more than 7,500 miles, is China’s most potent ICBM and was flight tested a day before the rail car ejection test with two multiple-independently targetable reentry vehicles (MIRVs), officials said.
>Military analysts say the mobile basing of missiles is designed to complicate preemptive attacks on nuclear forces, such as those envisioned under the Pentagon’s Prompt Global Strike program, which will use precision-guided conventional weapons capable of striking targets at any location on earth within minutes of their discovery.
>U.S. intelligence agencies estimate the DF-41 when deployed will carry up to 10 MIRVs—vastly increasing Beijing’s current warhead stockpile, which is based on single-warhead missiles, and currently estimated to include around 300 warheads.
>China is believed to have obtained rail-mobile missile technology from Ukraine, which during the Soviet period built the SS-24 rail-based ICBM, according to a report by Georgetown University’s Asian Arms Control Project.
>China state television in 2006 released the first details of the train basing for missiles in video footage showing missile launch cars, command cars, and other missile system railcars—all disguised as passenger train cars.
>The Georgetown report said the Chinese rail-mobile ICBM system is modeled on the Ukrainian-designed SS-24, and is known as a “land nuclear submarine”—an indication the rail launcher uses an ejection tube to boost the missile from the train car shortly before ignition of its engine.
>China also is developing an extensive rail and tunnel system devoted to the missile train in central China, according to the report.
>>28284758
More difficult to locate, provides an additional vector of attack
Since China is still the underdog, it makes it more likely these will survive a US invasion and be used against us, thereby resulting in the eradication of the Chinese
>>28284758
And yet MAD still doesn't exist between us and them.
The end.
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can we at least get a new format for fiddy threads?
>>28284793
Provoke them more and they will drop their self-limiting minimum deterrence posture sure enough.
China's nuclear stockpile actually decreased since the 1980s, because the merchants deemed that the US wont wage war against them. But this is changing and there's actually a slight upward tendency in their nuclear stockpile in recent years, adding some 20 more warheads to their arsenal.
>>28284782
>US invasion of China
It's like you forgot the outcome of 2 previous Asian land wars.
>>28284813
Good point, we should bring in the Japanese too for maximum raping
>>28284813
>china
>good at anything beyond killing other chinese
>US vs China
>literally Humans vs Zerg
remember, strength in number
>>28284812
That doesn't counter anything in the post you quoted.
>>28284863
China is good at killing Americans with inferior weapons, technology and logistics.
>>28284873
>implying chinas "zerg" can match the us zerg.
Quality and quantity, the ultimate mix.
>>28284893
>US dead, 54,000
>Chinese dead, 400,000
>>28284893
That must be why the Chinese lost a few hundred thousand in Korea, including getting Mao's son killed in a US napalm strike.
Meanwhile the US lost <40,000 in Korea. That's like an 8:1 ratio in the US's favor.
>>28284904
>UN dead, 600,000+
Good ratio, considering they were illiterate farmers.
>>28284904
>>28284905
Whatever. Can I have my .50 cents now?
>>28284905
This man still pushed you out of North Korea and humiliated MacArthur to dead.
>Home by Christmas
kek.
>>28284911
Nigger, you're retarded.
>>28284911
Weird, how there was only 972,000 in theater, the majority of which was illiterate farmers (south koreans).
>>28284911
>a regiment destroys multiple divisons in the process of being overrun
>GREAT CHINESE VICTORY!
>>28284911
Post-WWII Euroshits are truly useless
>>28284911
I doubt that was captured. I've never heard of Americans deploying with their unit's colors. Thats more of a European thing that stopped after WW2.
>The Chinese claim to have captured a medal of honor that was awarded for the same action it was captured at.
>>28284905
Most died because of the North Korean cold, actually.
>>28284929
see
>>28284918
>>28284921
Yeah, US Korean War Memorial lied. Wikishit is right.
>>28284921
>>28284935
>we're so good at killing gwailo!
>get BTFO
>DOESN'T COUNT!!!
>Chinese being proud of proping up the North Korean Government.
Congrats you helped establish the most oppressive government in the world. You should really be prould.
>>28284934
believe it.
Colors are in the regimental headquarter. The Chinese completely overran it and the commander was KIA in his own bunker. They took the colors and preserved it to this day.
>>28284935
US war memorial counted civilains working with the UN who died as UN deaths.
You would know that if you read the damn thing.
>>28284952
Who? Saudi Arabia?
>>28284965
Saudi Arabia is a bastion of freedom compared to north Korea
>>28284955
Doubt it. It's not like unit flags are made with holograms that can't be copied.
>>28284935
You didn't even research your own claim you fucking chimp.
>>28284965
>Implying Saudi Arabia is worse than North Korea
>>28284955
>Colors are in the regimental headquarter.
Units do not deploy 100% of all their personnel at any given time, nor do they take Guidons, pennants, or other shit that never leaves the heritage room. This sounds like BS.
>>28284961
US sources counted Chinese wounded as Chinese death, and make up bogus claims just like back in Vietnam, when a patrol of US soldiers fired a few magazines into a random bush and claimed to have killed two platoons worth of VC when they were back at the FOB.
In reality, about 180,000 PVA troops died of hostile fire. You can research Chinese ORBAT of that time, and you will see that Chinese group armies (that are about the size of a NATO Corps) never deployed any 'one million men', so losing 600,000 soldiers is entirely bullshit as it was more than what they actually had (and many divisions were actually understrength at that time).
Given that Americans were retreating from PVA invasion into North Korea at the time, it is difficult and understandable for the Americans to accurate validate the amount of confirmed killed on the battlefield given they were on the run and could not return back to enemy captured territory to conduct a thorough body count.
why do they hide their stuff?
also,
>difficult-to-locate rail cars
>difficult-to-locate
>rail
wat.. do people really think that a rail, and anything moving on it, is difficult to locate? I bet you could throw an smartphone with a solar near the rails, use it as a sensor to detect strong movements and take pics once that happens, and no one would notice...
>>28284991
umm yeah they do.
>>28285001
Even if what you said was true, and you equally parsed a certain percentage from both sides, the ratio is hugely in the US's favor.
>>28284969
>>28284981
At least North Korean women dont have to wear burka.
And aside of the power struggles in the upper echelons of power, the daily life of the ordinary people is very asiatic (as in corruption, black markets and the state's inability to regulate every little shit gives you enough personal freedoms).
>>28285001
>blatantly making up bullshit
>>28284969
>>28284981
what the fuck did I just read? the saudis use alien workers as slaves, they will kill any political opposition, and are funding, training and arming ISIS...
>>28285014
>mfw you unironically think units deploy with 100% of their personal
Kek
>>28285025
with the colours and standards, fucktard. i am aware of the need to have folks back home to keep stuff in order.
>>28285033
>colours
>>28285024
>>28285018
>thinking SA is more oppressive than NK
Thats when you realize the people you are concersing with are actually chinese.
Im so sorry.
>>28285014
Uh no they don't. Unless some pog trade like finance creates a morale flag with some reddit tier meme at the haji shop.
>>28285018
>the daily life of the ordinary people is very asiatic
Tell that to the North Koreans in actual death camps.
>state's inability to regulate every little shit gives you enough personal freedoms
Like freedom of travel, Religion, Or internet use?
>>28285033
No one does that Nigel, that shit does not leave the heritage room. In my 8 years I've never seen a unit flag or Gideon deploy. Sometimes the S functions will commission one there.
>>28284758
Metal Gear!
>>28285049
talking korean war buddy, not the american hateboner-fueled war on terror.
>but oh what is this??
>UNIT COLOURS BEING UNCASED IN THEATER!!?
>THE HORROR
>THE MADNESS
>>28285082
>>28285082
BUT WAIT, THERE IS MORE
>>28285019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_People%27s_Volunteer_Army_order_of_battle
Six to Nine Corps' sized units.
America can make shit up about Chinese "Group Armies" actually being "Army Groups" (ie. the actual million man-strong units), but the reality is different. A GA has about 50-60,000 soldiers in total during peak. Actually a lot lower in reality, as PLA units since the civil war always were organized in the "triple fashion", meaning that three guys make a fireteam, three fireteams make a squad, three squads make a platoon, three platoons make a company etc. until we have three divisions making up a corps/GA.
You wont have so many people that can be killed.
>every Chinese threads
>Ever
I can't tell if its the American or Chinese shills starting the shitposting
>>28285082
>>28285049
tell me again how nobody ever, never ever not once, takes the colours with them to combat.
>>28285099
>>28285049
>Tell that to the North Koreans in actual death camps.
Yeah, just like the bloggers who get their hands hacked off.
Systemic oppression is a hallmark of both Saudi Arabia and North Korea. That's realpolitik for you.
But good work in trying to compare shit with shit to make you feel better, America.
>>28285091
>>28285097
Okay I didn't incude a BC going TDY for a week at Bagram to attend a change of command and get a free month of tax free and combat pay. You can literately tell it's another waste of time ceremony that kills everyone's sleep cycle and the attending guests leave the same night out on a rotator to Al Udeid.
>>28285001
This has to be worth at least a dollar
>>28285091
>>28285097
>>28285109
See: >>28285121
Photo ops for the Military Times and the base website really don't count.
>>28285118
Good Job with that whataboutism, Chang. The difference is Americans see their relationship with Saudi Arabia as a blemish where the Chinese are proud of their handiwork in North Korea and see it as noble.
>>28284929
>multiple divisions
Yeah, you destroyed ONE. The 124th, half of those who still could move after getting frozen to death in a sudden blizzard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/124th_Division_(People%27s_Republic_of_China)
Anyway, that Division still exists today and will be taking charge in invading Taiwan as a amphibious mechanized division, possessing a better amphibious assault vehicle than you have.
>>28285166
>>28285155
China only sees the fact as noble to have pushed out the Amerifats ("""whites""") after a century of humiliation. On the other hand, North Korea is also seen as a blemish and a liability for China, as the Kim Dynasty does what the fuck they want and even threaten China with their nukes if they dont give them food and oil for free.
>>28284955
Really calling BS on this one. American units were wiped out in WW2 and Vietnam but there are no photos of Germans posing with American unit colors and the Vietnamese don't seem to have any in their possession.
>>28285199
Task Force Faith (31th RCT) was actually wiped out by the Chinese. This is confirmed.
The unit responsible for that, now reformed into the PLA 80th Motorized Rifles Brigade, still bear the crest of the fallen polar bear as their coat of arms.
>>28285224
>>28285166
>losing 10000+ men to less than 2000
>claiming victory
>>28285237
It was a phyrric victory, as China still achieved the objective of driving the US out of the North. The huge losses were bemoaned even by Mao, and considering how much more they could have lost if the US knew the true sad state of the Chinese forces at that time, they got away cheaply.
Trying to compare Saudi Arabia to North Korea.
This is beyond stupid.
HDI:
>NK: 0.595 Rank 177
>SA: 0.837 Rank 39
>China: 0.727 Rank 90
Median Income:
>SA: Ranked 26
>NK: lol
>China does not make it to the top 30
Press Freedom Index
>SA: 59.13 Ranked 164
>NK: 81.96 Ranked 179
>China: 72.91 Ranked 175
Epidemiology of Malnutrition
>SA: <5% Ranked 76
>NK: 18% Ranked 21
China: 15% Ranked 62
Economic Freedom
>SA: 62 Ranked 77
>NK: 1.3 LAST 1/20TH of the next worst country
>China: 52 Ranked 139
Democratic Index
SA: 1.82 Ranked(before universal suffrage)
NK: 1.08 LAST
China: 3.0 Ranked 144
>>28285155
I have literally never heard of China being happy about North Korea existing, the opposite is true, they absolutely despise NK and don't obliterate the place because it keeps SK away from their border, plus they don't want to take it over themselves since it's a money black hole if you tried to fix the place up.
>>28285166
>having a division completely destroyed
>reviving it
Bad karma man.
>>28284857
The Japs weren't that great neither, by the time we dropped the nuke, they lost several key cities back to Chinese counterattacks.
Naw we should just invent a time machine using dat magic Swiss LHC and then drone bomb Mao, Marx, Lenin and Stalin.
Fuck them all for turning otherwise American-friendly nations into dirty satanic communists. Seriously, Republican China was friendly and wanted our investment, the Russian Empire sold us fucking Alaska and bought tons of our guns and products, and a whole bunch of shitty little european and post colonial countries got some anti american sentiment from their Red overlords.
>>28285166
Wei-Wei, my son. You did it again.
>>28285539
"Destroyed" means that it has lost a large portion of its maneuvering units. Wounded and rear-echelon troops, as well as reserves still exist and carry the Division's colors.
>>28286280
>Chinese actually carry colors to battle
Hilarious.
>>28285596
So after the Japs got good and raped of all their resources trying to repel the USA and Russia the Chinese managed to take a few cities back? Great job by the Chinese then
>>28286297
Figuratively speaking. They actually do not, aside of their coat of arms.
In most cases, 'destroyed' military units do get reformed, as long as their HQ still exists and they werent completely annihilated due to enemy encirclement, like what happened with the German's 6th Army in Stalingrad.
>>28286297
Where does that say "to battle"
Another nail in the coffin that is Amerikkka
>>28286404
>Nuclear power, can't even MAD
lol china weak
>>28286420
From the article:
>The Chinese nuclear buildup should prompt the United States to re-evaluate its arms control constraints on its nuclear forces, Fisher said.
>“Given the growing degree of military technical cooperation and military-political coordination between Beijing and Moscow, we have to consider that eventually Russia and China could combine their nuclear weapons in a ‘tilt’ to coerce the United States, lets say in a military crisis over the future of democratic Taiwan,” he said.
https://www.rt.com/news/318359-glonass-beidou-navigation-satellite/
>Dream team: Russia's GLONASS & China's BeiDou to make satnav system parts together
tl;dr,
Russia and China are combining their strategic strike forces, including space-based navigation assets to put America under MAD.
America picks a fight with either of them; they pick the fight against both of them.
>>28284955
>Chinaman says it real
On ebay there are 7 Chinese sells selling Hitler's teeth and at least one selling Admiral Yamamoto's personal bathrobe.
>>28286462
Roy Appleman, jewish american Korean War veteran says it is real.
And you do bow down to the merchants, no?
>>28286456
>rt
>>28286479
No.
>>28286404
Yeah but see, Chinaboo, that map is horseshit according to the stuff OPpenheimer has shown us. You're not even trying.
>>28286481
http://www.janes.com/article/56772/china-and-russia-sign-aerospace-components-deal
Better?
>>28286494
You see, Oppenheimer is a faggot who dont know his shit about China's nuclear arsenal. He still thinks China is producing warheads in a single facility in Lop Nur like they did in the 70s and proclaimed that China cant into boomers. Guess what, this is exactly what they did last week:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/9/inside-the-ring-chinas-nuclear-missile-submarine-p/?page=all
>>28286497
China and Russia have signed an aerospace collaboration agreement with a view to strengthening joint programmes on satellite navigation systems.
China's State Administration for Science, Technology, and Industry for National Defense (SASTIND) - the primary agency in China for defence industrial development - said on 18 December that the new Sino-Russian accord is focused on bilateral co-operation on the development and production of aerospace components.
SASTIND said the agreement was signed during meetings between senior officials from the China National Space Administration and the Russian Federal Space Agency, agencies that are involved in exploring and enhancing collaboration on satellite navigation systems, namely the Chinese BeiDou system and its Russian equivalent GLONASS.
Literately nowhere does it say China and Russia are linking their Nuclear Arsenals.
>>28286520
>Oppenheimer is a faggot who says mean things about China!
.50 cents has been deposited into your account.
>>28286520
Yeah but see, you still haven't explained how you magically turn the entire western US into radioactive fallout land. You haven't earned your 25 cents until you have. No moving goalposts for you.
>>28286520
>goes on their first patrol ever
>SEEE WE CAN DO BOOMERS TOO!
>not even leaving the south china sea
how can china be this pathetic?
>>28286520
>He still thinks China is producing warheads in a single facility in Lop Nur like they did in the 70s
Where did I say that?
>and proclaimed that China cant into boomers.
I said that they did not have an operational SSBN.
>Guess what, this is exactly what they did last week:
And now they do.
Chinese investors own most of the USA anyways so not much point in talking about a nuclear exchange
>>28289133
>Not realizing China stands to lose more if they try to leverage American debt, and that China only "owns" a minority percentage of American debt.
>>28284782
>a US invasion
I can't even begin to imagine the circumstances under which we would consider invading China. I could see us doing limited war to kick them out of where they don't belong, but invading is right out of the question.
>>28284808
It's possible, but it'll take time. You have to submit your request to the Central Committee, who will give it their solemn consideration. Then they'll ask questions because they have no clue that 4chan exists, let alone /k/. Some regional commissar will draw the wrong inferences from the ChiComCentCom questions, and denounce the entire $.50 Party as traitors. Executions to follow. About this time, your original request is approved. However, to implement the change, a whole new $.50 Party needs to be indoctrinated. Sino School of Shitposting is created.
A regional commissar, looking to make a name for himself...
You see how this could take a while?
>>28284893
By their own official count, China lost 8 times as many troops in Korea as the US, while failing to achieve the objective of reunification.
>>28284911
>they were illiterate farmers.
No they weren't. They were combat veterans from WW2 and the Chinese civil war. Some of those "farmers" had over 10 years combat experience.
The US troops they were fighting were poorly trained garrison troops and green units, with obsolete equipment.
China had all of the advantages, yet they still couldn't achieve their objectives
>>28285001
Chinese sources claim around 530K casualties. You should try to keep your lies consistent.
>>28284955
>in his bunker
>at an in-situ regimental command
>>28289133
>Chinese investors own most of the USA anyways
If you consider 8% to be "most".
Chinese math, everyone.
>>28284905
>US napalm strike
It was south Africans that killed maos's son. Fucking burgers try to claim credit for everything
>>28286404
What does this map mean and why is my irrelevant Wisconsin town marked?
>>28285224
Shots fired
>>28284813
like the one where japan took over most of china and asia?
or maybe the one where the mongols conquered most of the continent?
or the one where the rus conquered it back?
the one after the russian revolution where the commies conquered most of the asian landmass?
i know, the one where alexander marched all the way to afghanistan?
hmmmm, shit, which ones are you talking about?
>>28284934
>The Chinese claim to have captured a medal of honor that was awarded for the same action it was captured at.
so it was moved pre-emptively to theatre or something because otherwise that doesn't make sense.
>>28285005
yes. how exactly are you going to keep track of all the rolling stock on a rail network at any given time? i think maybe you need to consider the scale of the chinese rail network and the chinese mainland and how small one rail car is.
>>28285024
>and are funding, training and arming ISIS
the saudi government is doing no such thing. and al qaeda has previously tried to kill members of the saudi royal family.
isis intends to burn mecca to the ground and smash the space rock into star-dust.
>>28285118
the saudis can actually feed themselves.
>>28285131
the marine unit in gen kill lost their colors in theater.
>>28286520
>China cant into boomers. Guess what, this is exactly what they did last week:
so every time he said that before last week he was exactly correct?
>>28287662
Good man
>>28286541
Don't you have some fag porn to jerk off to?
Impressive
No other nation in the world can do things such as these. They can hide them under Mount Everest and no one can stop China. No one would be stupid enough to destroy rails since it would take more to destroy less.
>>28284758
Doesn't mater, like all their modern ICBMs they will only build 10.
>>28289699
Hiro get summoned to explain baneposting.
>>28291971
They are just now catching up to 1960s tech.
Russia has had train nukes for decades.
The US doesn't have them because it'd be stupid since we have plenty of sea access and a lot of subs.
