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/k/ approved? New stormtroopers were great and the X-Wing vs
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/k/ approved? New stormtroopers were great and the X-Wing vs TIE scenes were fucking godlike.
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>>28284656
TR-8R was the best stormtrooper.
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>>28284656
/k/ is dead. We /v/ and /tv/ now.
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Darth Fuccboi should have kept his helmet on. I can't find him intimidating now that I know what he really looks like.
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>>28284659

Between his fight scene and Poe ghosting like 10 TIEs in 15 seconds that whole sequence was easily my favorite.
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>>28284676
Why was he hitting himself?
Was he an autist?
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>>28284676

ThatsThePoint.jpg

I know people are handwaving a lot of the stuff in this movie but that was literally the point of him wearing the helmet.
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>>28284696

Pain releases adrenaline plus anger which fuels the dark side.
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>>28284696
It's a samurai thing, hitting it and making it swell is supposed to slow bleeding
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>>28284656
I'd rather just watch a new hope instead of that fan pandering rehash. The stormtrooper's where the only entertaining thing in the movie, everything else was womyn stronk or Mary Sue bullshit. Tr8-tr was the most 3-dimensional character
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This thing was so fucking dope. Both of its "reveal" shots were incredible.
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New TIE fighters were neat. Sad about the lack of TIE interceptors though.
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>>28284686
That shit was fucking crazy. Poe is a monster
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>>28284727

I love the bird-like appearance.

>>28284823

One of the things that bother me the most about TFA is the lack of fucking spaceships!!! It's like they dont want to sell toys!!

I understand the new TIE is an improved long range heavy fighter/workhorse but they should have had interceptors also.
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>>28284823

Found this beauty on a forum

Just imagine it in black & white. Such a missed opportunity
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>>28284823
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>>28285031
It looks cool but holy fuck visibility must blow in that thing.
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>>28285058

In my headcanon all pilots have augmented reality on their helmets, so there's really little need for glass on fighters.

If they had made me Head Autist for TFA I would have included that interceptor as a secondary fighter, adding two extra engines on the sides and ditching the body cannons in favor of a bigger, heavier one in the middle, the idea being that the wing cannons also act like tracers in WW2 planes and the big thing shoots when the target is locked
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>star wars thread

>>>/wsg/864049
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Kike Wars: A cuck awakens

Fuck off
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>>28287196
>>>/pol/
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>>28284676
Because in reality he's a fucking faggot. That's the point of his character. He's not worthy of being a Sith.
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>>28284714
>There are people so autistic they can't handle seeing a woman doing "man" shit
Seriously? She was cool about it. Fuck off man.
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>>28284676
I seriously thought it was Andy Sandberg playing him
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>>28287706
People keep complaining because they do not seem to realise the film succeeded at what it was trying to do.
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>>28287715
She literally did fucking everything. Finn never had to do anything since she broke herself out, beat the edgelord, could fly the falcon, found Luke etc. she did fucking everything and was nothing more than a Mary Sue. If she was a little bit more 3 dimensional it woulda been fine but she was just a "look how strong chicks are girl power!!!" Character.
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>>28287739
That's not how the lightsaber looked like though
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>>28287770
>HERP DERP MUH MARY SUE
Luke literally was just as unrealistic in Ep4, she's a force sensitive who has a ton of experience scavenging and who built her own speeder. Child Anakin did just as crazy stuff. Go fuck off with this shit you've come up with because a girl did it.
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>>28287814
>child anakin
>the biggest "muh special character" douche in the entire series
Of course he was worse, you can't get any worse than the shit they pulled with him.
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The pacing was off because they had to shove a 5 hour movie into 2 hours.

Beyond that, it was easily the best star wars film besides Empire. The cast is very good, acting was good, and directing was good.

Bad parts were the lack of ships, as was already mentioned. No capital ship battles, no new republic/resistance cap ships. One star destroyer? And it appears both sides have full embraced the idea of a JSF?
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>>28287814
Well yeah because that character was shit too. The fucking animated versions of these characters had more depth and were more relatable
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>>28287893
Ewen McGregor as Kenobi was amazing. He was one of the lone bright spots in the prequels. He also made Hayden Christiansons lack of acting even more apparent.
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>>28287907
Ehhh, there were moments in the films like Anakin's post-massacre breakdown that show that the problem was Lucas' writing and directing, not Christensen.
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>>28288255
Yeah, I guess I can't see any quality actor managing to do the sand speech.
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>>28287695
>>>/lgbt/
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>>28287814
>>28287866

Child anakin: enslaved to a technology merchant, since very little he is trained in robot and vehicle maintenance.

Luke: Works the farm with uncle been, he is a fucking 17 year old that works with technology and machinery, in charge of repairing and maintaining everything electronic in the farm.

Rey: abandoned child living in wreckage in the middle of the desrt... scavenges technology from wreckage.... as in non functioning machinery, as in "i know what to pick up because they give me food rations for it and have never built a robot that would give me a big fucking pay to last me 6 months... but im a better pilot than han solo in my first try and know how a ship i've never been in works better that the owner"
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>>28288574
Rey built her own speeder.

She had to be able to ID and pull stuff that was actually worth her time, the guy was just a cheap dick about his exchange rate.

And she did work on the Falcon quite a bit while there, but you clearly weren't paying any attention. And, again, force sensitives are great natural pilots.
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>>28288644
must rewatch then. never heard her say she built her speeder. never heard her say she worked on the millenium. Just head her call it a piece of crap and the criticized something the merchant did to the ship.
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>>28288742
He had her do the work on it.
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>>28284823
Do the new TIE fighters have internalized life support? Finn and poe were able to fly to jakku without air supply
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>>28288784
Cool, but how do you go from her not knowing how to turn off the safety on a blaster to shooting more troopers dead than Finn who's spent a lifetime in combat simulations. Or the fact that Bondtrooper initially resists her Force Persuasion, yet submits right after? The key thing to force persuasion is when someone refuses it makes it even harder to influence them through the force. It could of been one thing if it worked right away, but no.
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>>28288915
TIE fighters have always had life support, they just lack hyperdrives. The fact that they stole a special forces variant gives credit to why it was able to last as long as it did
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>>28284656

lol nah

Shit was garbage with more style than substance. Poe doing well as an ace pilot was more due to plot than anything else. It showed no tension or skill like the rebel pilots did in the EP IV.
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>>28288644
Just because she can fix it doesn't mean she can fly it not all aviation mechanics are pilots and even people who are natural pilots need to learn the basics first.
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>>28284656
>TFW your stormtrooper serial number is FN
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>>28285012
>One of the things that bother me the most about TFA is the lack of fucking spaceships!!! It's like they dont want to sell toys!!

I think the first movie had relatively few different ship types too. The only other ship that should have been present was the Y-Wing, but adding a dedicater fighter-bomber to the movie would have made it even less believable - I liked how the resistance had to make do with a ragtag team of X-Wings, that didn't have enough air to ground effectiveness to carry out their objective.
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>>28289089
THere's never any sign she isn't a decent pilot, and she does have trouble with the flight controls for the Falcon for a while, but starts getting better in that first flight as she gets used to the handling.
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>>28289088
Shit taste, senpai. Go back to your contrarian cuck board /tv/.
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>>28289664
See
>>28289032
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quick someone post the KKK photoshop
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>>28284686
12, he blew up 12 ties and strafed a squad of infantry.
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>>28289608
>Resistance
>Ragtag
Maybe after TFA, but before the movie they're funded and financed by the Republic
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>>28287706
this, he is great at being a fuccboi with an existential crisis
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>>28284656
Do the dogfights have any of those cockpit scenes of the ship blowing up around the pilot?

Shit's fucking brutal.
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>>28287770
idk man rey was a cool character imo
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>>28284696
Cuz he got shot, nigga
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>>28289032
> lifetime of combat situations
Nigga was maintenance and the beginning of the film was his first deployment. Should have listened better, nigga never even shot a guy before the movie
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>Bergdoll in space
>Tantrum sith takes off helmet, revealing his faggotry 1/3 of the way into the movie
>General 20something also being equally too much of a young pretty-boy (Tarkin rolling in his grave)
>girl powa dark trooper's only literal role was fucking over everyone and getting thrown down a trash chute
>should I mention that Bergdoll was a frontline janitor?
>shitty character development
>shitty environmental establishment (honestly thought it was an Endor moon and floating belt satellite death star thing until about 3/4 through the movie)
>holy shit, who's this grandma who sounds like she's smoked a pack a day on the screen?

On the bright side, LOTR joker looked like he aged pretty well...
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What really pissed me off about this movie was how New Porkins didn't die in a similarly hilarious manner as Original Trilogy Porkins. Fucking Christ, why did he have to live? Golden opportunity fucking wasted.

Also, I wish they didn't blow up the Starkiller, kind of gay tbqph family.
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>>28291879
>situations
>simulations
please read what the other anon wrote, not what you wanted him to write.
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>>28291790
Yes. Several.
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>>28284696
You ever had a cramp while running?
Or muscles tensing while lifting?
You hit the spot with your fist. idk why but it helps.
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>>28291970
https://youtu.be/0E96CfPLkPU?t=61
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>>28287770
>She fucking did everything
>huff-durr not enough personality
>what is the strong silent type
baka desu senpai
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>>28287814
>Luke
>constantly getting his ass saved or instructed by people like Han and Obi Wan
>only real talent as introduced is pilotting
>shown training to use the Force to guide him in lieu of senses/other aids
>guided by the Force to make the Death Star shot

This "b-but Luke was a Mary Sue" meme needs to die
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>>28291726
The Republic are little bitches that want to disarm their own military. Palpatine was right make an empire, whenever a Republic springs up everything goes to shit.
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>>28292096
the old republic was around for 40 thousand years.
I dont think it would have survived that long if it was shit.
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>>28292109
Too bad it's non canon now. Those were some of the better pieces of lore.
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>>28292109
40 years isnt a long time.
even if the years used in the star wars universe are longer.
Actually, does anyone know how long a star wars year is?
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>>28292096
>>28292096
you fascist fuck
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>>28292109
I thought the Old Republic fell around 10,000 years bby, then the Galactic Republic eventually formed and converted into the Empire in 18bby.
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>>28284656
Rey suddenly being a better light saber duelist than Kylo Ren, a Sith Lord, is bullshit.
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>>28292169
he was injured, but yeah i agree with you.
i guess thats what you get for being a scene sith
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>>28284714
>Being this insecure because you saw a well executed strong female

Literally amputate your balls you don't deserve them.
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>>28292180
this
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>>28292179
Well ya he was injured but as a Sith Lord there's no way Rey would have been able to beat him like that, even Padawan fight better than Kylo did, and Kylo has such an affinity for the force he STOPPED a blaster bolt MID FLIGHT! how the FUCK do you go from high end Sith Lord abilities to being worse than a Padawan in a matter of DAYS?!
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>>28292180
>well executed

a laughable notion

In this movie, she has nothing resembling a character arc. She goes places, things happen, and she goes Force super-saiyan. Rey was a remarkably boring lead. But I guess to idiots like you, Jedi mind tricks, fancy flying, and pew-pew make for compelling characterization.

Finn's motivation and goals change over the course of the movie, and his fish-out-of-water archetype makes him a more effective lead.
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>>28292214
But Fin's a nigger
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>>28291970

I'm pretty confident they made him live because everyone expected him to die.
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>>28292219
And still more interesting and believable than Rey
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>>28292256
If it makes you feel better Rey and Fin don't actually hook up later in the trilogy.
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>>28292277
I wasn't bothered by Boyega or his character at all, and inb4 c*ck memes, but I really don't care if he takes her to the IBG
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>>28292169
>>28292179
>>28292198
Perhaps he just wasn't a very good duelist. Strong with the force doesn't necessarily mean a strong sword fighter. Rey had her own martial arts skills with a staff before picking up a saber. And Kylo Ren is a fucking child. Lets his emotions control him instead of the other way around. overconfidence and rash. I like that he got his ass whooped, it really shows how undertrained he is
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>>28292307
as i said thats what he gets for being a fucking scene kid
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>>28284727
Personally I thought it was pretty stupid. Needlessly takes up way more space than necessary in a hangar even when folded, and unless the wings house important functional systems there's literally no point. If they do house important functional systems, it makes no sense to have them in giant fucking targets on the sides of your ship. I get that it looks birdlike and all, but even then to me it just looks stupid.
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>>28292307
Exactly dude probably just meditates in front of grandpappy and considers his hilarious freak outs against panels dueling practice.
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>>28292169
only way it makes any sense is if that bolt caster fucking shattered his pelvis (best shot placement if you want to immediately stop someone from advancing) and all his force powers were committed to holding that bitch together. plus he just killed his dad so theres that
But in a more real sense it doesnt make a fucking lick of sense
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>>28284656
all the weapons look like toys
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>>28289051
Old TIE/Ln's didn't. Basically the only things they had were engines and guns.
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>>28292144
40 THOUSAND dipshit. The Old Republic lasted around 40 THOUSAND years.
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>>28292360
good against panels is one thing, good against the living, that's something else
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>>28292160
Nah, Old Republic and Galactic Republic are one and the same, I believe it's just a differentiator to tell the wealth of events started by KOTOR apart from stuff in the prequels
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>>28292400
As I was
I cant read
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>>28284696
He'd been shot in the gut with the laser equivalent of a .50 BMG, it hurt like hell. He was punching it to make it hurt more because his Emoknight powers run on pain and anger.
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>>28292295
faggot
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>>28292360
He was trained by Luke Skywalker, his Stormtroopers appear to have melee combat training, and Emperor snoke says he needs more training implying he's had it.

Flailing your force pike thing around at other untrained scavengers isn't comparable.
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>>28292381
Easier to sell to kids in commiefornia
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>>28292400

>40,000 years

"In the grim darkness of the distant past, there is only shitty writing."
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>>28292169
>sith lord
He isn't.

The supreme leader is his lord. He's an apprentice, and one who isn't considered done with his training.

Also, he's not necessarily good in a duel.


>>28292307
Also all of this.

Fighting with hand weapons is all about control. Ideally, you're not even present emotionally, and to a certain extent, are also mentlaly checked out and have very much found your zen.

It's like shooting or archery in that regard.

You're awake, you're aware, but you're not having feelings, you're focused, but thinking about something unrelated, and your body is doing what you've trained it to do while the analytical part of you looks for anything important, be it an opening, a change in your target, or some cunt coming up on your left.
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>>28289608
This is what i really don't get. The resistance has the financial backing of the republic and have a base and like two squadrons of x-wings ("Sir we lost 2 more x wings!" "Oh no,that's half our fleet down")

Yet the first order have the resources somehow to build a fucking ULTRAMEGADEATHSTAR despite having no tax base and no significant logistical backing beyond a poor CGI hologram. Just building the original death star ruined the empire financially. What the fuck Disney?
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>>28285031
Like this?
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>>28292514
>Snoke is his lord

You don't know that, as far as we know Snoke is just some guy exploiting a force user who wants to be a Sith Lord, technically the Emperor was still vader's master, yet everyone calls Vader a Sith Lord anyways.

It doesn't even matter if his dueling is shit (Which makes no fucking sense still) because he has the ability to use the force so well he can stop a blaster bolt mid flight, that much affinity for the force is more than enough to take out Rey AND Fin, easy.
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>>28292519
It also bothered me that the resistance even called their meager collection of X-wings a "fleet". Like, I get it, you want to keep morale up and all, but there is no way that a couple flights of X-wings can ever be classified as a fleet.

They kept talking about the resistance fleet before they got there and I was expecting to see some cool-as-shit updated Mon Calamari cruisers and they'd go fuck shit up in this even-more-kickass version of the battle of Endor, but no, apparently the New Republic were all stingy fucks.

Like, why couldn't they have kept the old Mon Cal cruisers that had survived the war with the Empire?
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>>28292519
Because they wanted to retell A New Hope. That's literally the only reason.
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>>28292554
At the very least, the boost in reflexes and perceptions into the future that ANY jedi or sith gains should've enabled Kylo to fuck Finn's shit up much sooner than he really did, injury or not.
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>>28284656
>not a single operator to be seen the entire movie
>lazor weapons that only work properly on background extras or in the hands of main characters
>>>/tv/
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>>28292013
It helps because pressure sensors in your skin are bigger/more conductive than pain sensors. By activating the pressure sensors, you slightly override the pain. That's really oversimplified but basically what happens.
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>>28292581
He was fucking with Finn. Rey was a better fighter to begin with, and once she felt how to channel the force the fight turned to her advantage really fast.
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>>28292636
So Kylo really is just a fucking idiot then for not taking care of any threat as soon as he can. You'd think being injured would be enough incentive to prevent him from toying with an opponent and get the hell out of there ASAP
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>>28292647
He's a wannabe Sith with temper problems and daddy issues. I don't think he's ever thinking rationally.
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>>28292647

>So Kylo really is just a fucking idiot

uh no shit

That's kind of the basis of a character

He's an unstable and insecure teenager
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>>28292520
yes.
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Where the fuck did Snoke even come from? Palatine and his apprentices are the only sith that have been alive up until this point, and anything else would violate the rule of two.
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>>28287814
anakin was the force jesus though. he's supposed to be like that.

and the first time luke fought with a light sabre he got fucked up good an proper, even after training with the top master in the galaxy.
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>>28292647
>>28292636
>>28292666
There's one thing you guys keep avoiding/forgetting. KYLO STOPPED A BLASTER BOLT MIDFLIGHT WITH THE FORCE!

With such fucking control over the force even with the injury fucking with his concentration he should have torn Rey apart.
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>>28292718
Yeah, against probably the most powerful lightsaber duelist alive. Shortly before he turned Vader easily defeated a swordsman who could go toe to toe with Yoda.
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>>28292745
That isn't the same thing as using it's flow to fight in melee. He has powerful raw talent, but swordfighting requires finesse and control.
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>tfw want to see the movie
>tfw can't go to the theatre because I have no friends to go with
Anyone have a torrent?
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>>28292817
just go alone and own it, don't be an autist.
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>>28292829
But isn't it illegal to go to a theatre alone?
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>>28292835
Maybe in the US where people are scared you'll shoot the place up.
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>>28292835
You might get weird looks going to kids movies, but don't be a little bitch about going to see regular movies.
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>>28292790
Except the whole thing about being a sith is using anger and hate to destroy people
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>>28292790
Are you retarded?! It wasn't some HEMA match it was a fight to the death, he could have used the force to rip her fucking throat out, or the light saber out of her hands. He didn't, why? Because JJ realized that he couldn't have the female lead lose. That's why.
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>>28292915
Right, but you have to focus and guide that. Vader was cold and focused. Sidious turned it all into joy as he fought.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7hBZNsPnyg

Ren throws temper tantrums.
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>>28293026
>he could have used the force to rip her fucking throat out

When it was already established that she'd learnt to resist his force powers

Yeesh. Pay attention.
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>>28293047
How? How could you just "Resist" force powers? That's not how they work, the only beings that can do that evolved outside the Star wars Galaxy, Rey is a human, she can't just "Resist" his power.

That's retarded writing, big surprise coming from JJ Abrams.
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>>28293061
Were you not watching the interrogation scene? You bitter nerd.
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>>28293061
Yeah why didn't Vader force choke Luke into unconsciousness what a hack Empire worst film
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>>28293073
The movie's forgettable a bit, but that doesn't excuse the poor writing from it. I remember the line "Do you have a bf?! A cute bf?!" Such inspiring writing from JJ, what will he do next?! Have Fin say "Pls respond" to her on coms?

That still doesnt explain why he didn't use any of the other sith powers he has on her, are you really telling me if he used, say, force push on her she wouldn't go flying and she'd just stand there uneffected?!

Sorry your movie sucks.
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>>28293061
fag homo... everything you are talking about is non-canon because when disney bought the series they proclaimed the books were a waste of your time and invalid. so if disney says she can use her space magic to resist then that's that. fag homo
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>>28293087
>if he used, say, force push on her she wouldn't go flying

Except he did and she did go flying

Christ it's like listening to my dad complain about a film when he fell asleep and only woke up at the end.
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>>28293087
>The movie's forgettable a bit, but that doesn't excuse the poor writing from it

Well, it was solidly established in the lead in so your "poor writing" is actually you not paying attention to what was happening.
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>>28293087
Somebody is an autist.

I bet you cringed at all the "normies" laughing at BB's thumbs up.
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>>28289089
I think you missed the parts where she nose dived into the ground on take off, or she slammed into the floor trying to fly.
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>>28291955
>shitty environmental establishment (honestly thought it was an Endor moon and floating belt satellite death star thing until about 3/4 through the movie)

Not everyone is as stupid as you.
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>>28292569
Watch the film more closely, all those big cruisers were orbiting the Republic capital as an insurance against the First Order attacking them directly for their support of the resistance.

So not in prime condition right about now.
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>>28293087
God forbid a man raised from birth in a sterile military environment is a bit awkward socially.
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>>28293915
I know right, how dare he be a fish out of water on a strange planet with people he's never met
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>>28284656

Why are these posts on multiple boards with the same exact diction? Shit's annoying.
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Things that bugged me about the movie:

>absolutely horrendous pacing
>scope of the battles was too goddamn tiny

Why did they choose goddamn x-wings for a goddamn bombing mission? It's like they literally had nothing but x-wings.
And it seemed like they only had like 2 dozen or so too, you never see that many on screen at once.

Also they brought in ZERO support for the X-wings, not even a single goddamn capital ship like seriously what the hell

And why were the planetary defenses for their goddamn superweapon so fucking weak? I'm not just talking about the lack of turbolaser turrets, they didn't even have a single star destroyer in orbit...
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So.... why were the repercussions of the Order's actions so downplayed?

>Literally decapitate the entire Republic with the push of a button
>Nobody talks about it
>It's mentioned only like once in passing afterwards
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>>28293947
J.J. Abrams is a pretty poor visual storyteller. Just compare the opening scenes of A New Hope to The Force Awakens.

As for why X-Wings, X-Wings are an iconic feature of the series and are highly popular. Everything else is J.J. Abrams really weird hangups about space based sci-fi. Everything you complain about already appeared in his Star Trek films. Absolute lack of ships and planetary defenses, tiny scope of battles - granted Star Trek battles are usually smaller and between few ships, inconsistent and short times for interstellar travel, and creating plot devices that logically break the setting.
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>>28293947
The Resistance is just a small private force with cursory backing from the new Republic. I'm not even sure they have any capital ships to use. Officially the Republic is more concerned with just solidifying the ground they've taken rather than picking fights with the various remnant Imperials, kind of a Cold War scenario.
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>>28293961
Because, going by the fact that all the planets destroyed seem to be in the same system as the bar run by the orange chick and Coruscant is located nowhere near where the movie is said to take place, the First Order destroyed the local Republic political and military infrastructure.
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>>28294047

Except the New Republic rotates which system holds senate, and that the whole senate was convened on the planet that got fucked to bits. Literally decapitating the New Republic.
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>>28294060
Strictly speaking that would only decapitate the legislative branch of the New Republic.
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>>28294041
>remnant Imperials
>remnants
>literally able to build a superweapon out of a goddamn planet that eats fucking suns

Something doesn't add up.
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>>28294113
Remnant on a galactic scale. Granted, the First Order seems really, really tiny. Like single Star Destroyer tiny. Home base is on your superweapon planet that destroys the star it orbits tiny. Granted, we're just seeing a single garrison but you'd think they could afford another Star Destroyer.
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>>28292589
Did you miss Poe removing TIE?
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>>28294073
Nah, the New Republic much like the old one loved to keep its fleet all together and rely on planetary defense until the calvary arrived. The Republic just got fucked which is good as the first order is only shown to have the capital ship left.
>>28294113
Compared to the galaxy spanning Empire yes, the FO seems to only control a few local clusters
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>>28284656

The Starkiller was a retarded idea, but hats off to the new generation storm troopers.
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>>28284714
The point of the force is that size and strengths matters not, whether or not the hero is a man or a woman is literally irrelevant. Plus daisy riddley Is a great actress.
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>>28288255
Exactly
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>>28289051
No they didnt
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>>28292470
Alright back to /pol/ with you
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>>28292214
But finn has horrible lines. Hes seriously like a black brendan fraser
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>>28293061
There's a scene with her figuring out and countering his powers, I'd say watch it again, but I don't want to risk sharing a theater with you
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>>28293029
Palpy is kinda like a large cat, casually sadistic but also dangerous in a straight up fight
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>>28292699
Yup.
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>>28294410
Which is fine for every force power except force persuade, where Bondguard initially resists her thus making subsequent attempts even harder, but somehow Bondguard just stops giving a fuck
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>>28294433
She works it out, to her it was like lifting a weight, she was working out the technique
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>>28288915
Do you really think the realisator gives à fuck about these details?
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>>28292198
I think his helmet makes his abilities better. +5 to sith skills.
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>>28293897
Sorry, I was overwhelmed by how shitty everything else was.
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>>28292699
so you have 2 choices, or 3.
1. it's Vader
2. it's Palpatine
3. it's an asspull
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tell me about Kylo. Why does he wear the mask?
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>>28294868

Because he's edgy as fuck. Or at least, mostly because he's edgy as fuck, now it makes sense he wears a fucking mask due to the gash in his face.
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I'm calling it.

The Imperials will be seen fighting each other when Thrawn shows up.

He's a hyper-competent military commander, but he's no First Order fanatic.

Not to mention Thrawn is an alien and the First Order dudes will never accept him as a Grand Marshall (outranking all of them).
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>>28295214

Thrawn showing up as an 'enemy of my enemy' versus the First Order would be orgasmic and forgive every single failure of Episode VII.
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My only issue with the movie (and I can't remember the exact part.) They were talking about something that happened in a previous title and I explicitly remember they fucked up the story. Other than that I give it a solid 5/7
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>>28294449
No, it's more like she couldn't lift the 20lbs plate, and now it's a 200lbs plate
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HAN SOLO DIES
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BY THE HANDS OF HIS OWN SON!!
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>>28295214
>>28295224
This, hell I'd be happy they killed the EU for it. It gives a perfect opening for the Empire to be more than Palpatine's puppet or a bunch of desperate loyalists
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>>28295248
This looks shopped. I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time
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>>28295224

I've always wanted to see the Empire fight itself on the big screen.
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>>28295259

Exactly. Have the First Order be the completely insane SS-expies they are, while Thrawn's splinter is a lot more amicable-if-not-friendly.
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>>28295259

Yes. An Empire fragment centered around Thrawn and Pallaeon would immensely complicate things, because it would be a very crafty (but not insane) opponent.
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>>28284686
It would've added a lot more if it was Captain Phasma fighting Finn, not random ass trooper
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>>28295267
Anon....
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>>28295267
It's a real spoiler
Just Google it
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>>28295289

It'd be a lot of fun seeing Thrawn run rings around them, considering he's a lot smarter.
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>>28295214
>Thrawn
I was disappointed that he wasn't in place of Greivous in episode 3, just imagine that
only problem is no cool lightsabet fights

P.S: Thrawn is no longer canon, none of his source material is, therefore it is really unlikely he will be in any of the movies.
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>>28295312

Fucking this. Phasma was so underused.
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>>28295335
>woman buckethead gets caught offguard and thrown into a trash compactor
This is why you shouldn't have women in the Stormtrooper Corps
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>>28295331

Of all the EU antagonists, he's easily the most likely to be appear. He was the most memorable of them. It's hard to forget a dude with solid-red eyes.
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>>28295358

Thrawn must be using reverse-spice.

Sorry, I've been on a Dune binge as of late, re-reading the entire series.
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>>28295358
Of course, considering he's the only non-human Imperial admiral
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If I had to find some flaws it would be as follows

>Captain Phasma seemed bretty gool, but was nonexistent as a villain
>Maz Kanata was Yoda-lite
>Rey beating Kylo at the end was kind of an asspull
>the CGI was a wee bit wonky at times

Otherwise, I really liked it.
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>>28294891
I'd assume it was some sort of armor, due to all the dings and dents it had in it
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>>28295369

True. The only other Imperials I remember from the EU were Isard, Zsinj (for his occasional crafty scheme), and Isard's truly luckless clone.
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>>28295382

Don't forget that the plot was basically copy/pasted from Episode IV.
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>>28292219
Fin literally could have been a white man, or a mongoloid, and it wouldn't change a damn thing about the movie. They made him a nigger purely for the sake of giving the movie diversity bucks.
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>>28284696
It's because he can't let the light side portions of his personality come out. He hits himself to keep his pain and rage going to feed the dark side.
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>>28295404
I was able to forgive that because the whole "search for Luke" thing was so cool.
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>>28295409
Isn't that kind of a good thing? Fin is just Fin, not Fin The Black.
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>>28295394

Oh, and of course Pallaeon.

He's the most unlikely of Imperials. He's a reasonable, average guy who ended up seeing a massive amount of history (at one point, he even served as commander of the Republic's forces). He dies acclaimed by both Imperial and Republic personnel alike.

That to me is what I'll miss about the EU the most.

It wiped out one stunning career.
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>>28295409

That's a good thing, not a bad thing, because it means his character is independent of his skin color.
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>>28295335
>>28295312
>>28295348

>hey
>what if we put in this named character
>make it a women
>put her in special snowflake armor
>set her up to be an antagonist
>AND THEN DO NOTHING LMAO
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>>28295436
Of course it isn't always good, because in say, a modern drama, racial identity is an important part of a character. But that doesn't even matter in Star Wars.
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>>28295464
The bit about setting her up and doing nothing was deplorable, but I don't see a problem with the other stuff.
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>>28295464
I think Phasma actually had some scenes cut. I really hope they do something with her in episode 8
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>>28295496

That's what I figure is going to happen.
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>>28292581
Except Finn is going to be a force user too. That's why Kylo Ren notices him in the opening scenes. Finn is just going to need training to bring it out like luke did.
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>>28295496
I don't think she made it out of the base. She was in a fucking trash compactor and the place was going nova. It'd be an asspull to bring them back, but hey, Starwars.
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>>28292307
Also he didn't get much duel training with a lightsaber because he shanked everyone else in his class in some fucking rage.
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>>28295464
If you couldn't notice the blatant signs of post-production editing, you need your head checked.
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>>28295517
I would assume he was at least good with a lightsaber, seeing as how he murdered his entire class.
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>>28292699
Yeah cause the sith are the only darkside force users out there.
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>open thread
>expect silliness like when /k/ discussed The clone wars as if they were troopers and veterans of the war
>instead idiots spewing edgelord and arguing about the somewhat forced female empowerment

welp. /k/ has changed
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>>28295528
>anakin was good with a saber because he killed all the younglings
Didn't the flashback thing imply that vader-wannabe had backup for the child murder?
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>>28295409
after watching attack the block, i trust fin more then all the other new fags
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>>28295536

It's because all the EU has been wiped out.

There's no "war" to be a "veteran" of.
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>>28295545
Wouldn't a more apt comparison be Anakin killing all the younglings, when he was a youngling? Or was Kylo an adult, and the rest of Luke's students a bunch of kids?
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why was the wookie able to land blaster hits on ren?
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>>28295584
Because Ren's an unstable shit who was reveling in his patricide.
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>>28284714
It's literally just Episode 4 but with JJ Abrams's lens flares and shoehorned minorities to please the social justice faggots who only care about mindless action and the color of an actor's skin.
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I was cringing with my eyes shut the whole movie especially when the crowd kept fucking clapping. Idk whats wrong with me, I wanted to like the movie but it just embarrassed me. Too old and cynical now or something.
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>>28295824
>Still parroting this nonsense
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>>28284686
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>>28295824
>JJ Abrams's lens flares

Confirmed for neverseen.
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>>28295895
Man wtf is star wars doing.
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>>28295904
Best scene in the movie, fuccboi.

Also, the troopers, especially fin, keeps trigger disipline.

Confirmed for /k/ related
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>>28295930

>best scene in the movie
>random trooper's weapon is somehow able to block lightsaber strikes without looking any the worse for wear
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oh...hai guys
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>>28295941
Get the fuck out if that is a shocker to you.
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>>28295941
>Electrostave-style weapon clearly meant for melee fighting in a universe where lightsabers are a thing.
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>>28295584
A better question would be, how did Ren survive the shot?

That thing looks like it lobs 20mm shells
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>>28295992

>lightsabers are a rare thing, completely not expected to be wielded by anyone what so ever in that engagement
>lightsaber resistant materials are exorbitantly expensive to produce or obtain

Scene would have been absolutely fine if it was Phasma, not some random trooper.
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>>28296011
>>28296011
>hunting a tratior known to be looking for a jedi

>HURR WHY DO DEY HAVE ANTI LIGHTSABER WEAPONS
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>>28296023

More a matter of HURR, WHY DO THEY ASSIGN HYPER-EXPENSIVE ANTI-LIGHTSABER WEAPONS TO RANDOM FOOT SOLDIERS
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>>28295903
And I never will. Not giving any of my money to that racist Jew. He's a dick, and his movies are garbage.
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>>28296039
>one guy out of a hundred has it
>clearly has different gear (shield) to support it
>HURRR MUH EXPENSE

Imagine if you learn things like AT teams are company assets.
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>>28296092
>bitch about the movie as if you have seen it
>you haven't and its clear
>you actually fell for the ANH meme

Pretty sad to critique a movie you have not even seen, buddy. Why even try?
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>>28296092
>thinks he can critique a movie without even having seen it
Seriously consider suicide.
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>>28293026
If our were paying attention he was going out of his way not to kill her, he wanted an apprentice, then Rey actually started channeling the force and caught him off guard.

tl;dr Kylo Ren is incompetent and overconfident, and got taken by suprise.
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>>28296092
>doesn't want white as snow cast
>racist
Just, holy fucking wow that is some twisted logic there.
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The good guy leads faced next to no real challenges besides not being armed well enough.
Finn faced the most and was most interesting, even if his backstory makes 0 sense (stormtrooper in supa-evul SS elite indoctrination is a coward and a good hearted guy who wouldn't do nuffin)

Poe faced some setbacks, but he was barely around except to provide some flying dakka.

Rey was just good at everything, or got crazy good improbably fast, even before the force stuff.
ChildAnakin was worse (but the prequels are known to be trash), but Rey is still Mary Sue.
Luke was a shit country bumpkin when he got found, he grew as the story progressed.

I liked Finn and Rey, though found Rey flat, and Finn felt like Black Solo meets Nathan Drake with the constant "witty banter".

Phasma was a totally pointless character besides "Womyn power". Should have had her just be a secret cameo like Daniel Craig etc.

Kylo was kinda boring, but cool until he removed the mask.

>>28293080
>why didn't Vader force choke Luke into unconsciousness
Because it was his son you mongoloid. A son he loved.
Rey and Kylo aren't related (that we know of)
Kylo doesn't know it either way.

>>28294187
>>28289088
>>28284999
>Poe the master pilot
I get it they were establishing he was the best, but that scene where he removes 12 TIE's was retarded.
He barely moved, the TIE's just flew into his guns.
It was forced exposition to tell us how badass he is at flying.
I get it. It just felt so over-embellished it lost impact.
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>>28295248

It's not even much of a spoiler

the scene is really drawn out and you absolutely know what's going to happen before it does, spoiler or not
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>>28292307
THis

JJ was so intent on making a villian everyone could hate "emo fuccboi who whines and gets fucked up by total force noobs"

He missed what made Vader and Palpy great villains. They were actually kinda scary.

Vader was essentially a force multiplier and tactical genius. Personally led troops on Hoth straight through Echo Base. Fucked up luke like it was nothing serious.

Palps was the puppet master. Plots within plots. His whole focus was to make Luke a Sith and take his fathers place. The entire war became nothing more than context to this goal.
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>>28295248
>>28296481
And kylo ren being hans son isn't even a secret, he announces it very early in the movie in some blatantly expositionary monolog. Plus Harrison Ford said years ago that if they made another trilogy, the only way he was coming back as hans solo was if he got killed off in the first movie
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>>28296403
How is it not racist to hire actors whose skin has nothing to do with their role exclusively because of their skin color?

He didn't care whether or not Boyega was a good actor. He looked at him and thought, "Thank God he isn't white."

Preferring one individual over another based on your own preference of race is literally the definition of racism.

JJ Abrams is a racist. And after seeing the garbage that was his idea of Star Trek, I'm not eager to hand him any of my money to see Episode IV 2 with emo Sith wannabes and Mary Sue.
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>>28294891
Because his lightsaber is fucking unstable and he knows sooner or later it'll pepper his shit...
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>>28284656
>Han and Leia's son
>Severus Snape
of all the fucking people to cast for a badguy that's supposed to be the son of one of the canonically most handsome men and one of the most beautiful women in the known universe....
why that ugly SOB?
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A had a few gripes with it. But it was still a great movie. Definitely not the best (about as good as Return of the Jedi IMO) but a great movie. Poe Dameron was easily my favorite character.

1. How powerful Rey is. She is like 100x more powerful than Anakin was and he was the Chosen One for fucks sake.
2. The blaster sounds minus the already established ones like turbolaser, DL-44, X-wing etc.
3. It was basically A New Hope.
4. Ren killing his father (rip in spaghetti)
5. Han only JUST NOW using Chewbacca's bowcaster. They'd been together for what, 40 years before this, so it seems unlikely that he wouldn't have been in a situation before where he would have used Chewie's bowcaster. Not to mention that (granted non-canon anymore and it's been 30 years later) Han's DL-44 was already perfectly capable of penetrating Stormtrooper armor.
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>Captain Phasma
>disciplines a trooper for firing during a battle and having second doubts about being a trooper
>directly responsible for The First Order losing because a wookie tackles her and Finn put a gun to her face to force her to lower the shields
>didn't ever try to sound any alarms or try to overpower Finn when he turned his back to her for 10 entire seconds
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>>28296707
She's a woman.
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>>28287770
She did everything an action movie protagonist does, but since she has a vagina, pol be mad
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>>28296858
>She did everything a shitty action movie protagonist does

FTFY
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>>28284696
Because he tanked a fucking canon round. Lesser mofos would be dead. Hitting it not only helps slow bleeding, but also increases pain, which in turn keeps you awake and alert, not to mention that pain and anger are emotions which can help fuel the dark side.
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>>28296858
>action movie protagonist
That's the problem dumbass, Star Wars films aren't fucking action movies. The last Mary Sue action hero protagonist (young anakin) was equally shit, even with his penis
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>>28292169
Kylo Ren was the equivalent of mid training Luke with a two-inch hole in his body. Yeah he probably would suck at fighting.
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>>28296893
Tbqh he soul da just listened to some linkn park to fuel his angst you dad hate
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>>28296910
TRAITOR
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>>28287770
Why is everyone bitching over Rey being the Mary sue or whatever the shit? Rey was pretty fucking legit. It was the silver plated stormtrooper thing that was the unnecessary pandering. She literally contributed nothing other than to unwillingly help the good guys win.
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