/gullible recruits/ edition
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Resources:
>Armyranger.con
For Ranger info, obviously.
>Specialtactics.com
For all AFSOC related info, but the site is currently down. Hoping it'll get back up soon.
>Shadowspear.com
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.
>http://www.corpsman.com
For Navy Corpsman info.
>http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-Recon
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.
>http://www.uscg.org
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.
OP template
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Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Rx0nDuga
Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
http://strawpoll.me/4671253
Ask questions, answer questions, bitch about Air Force recruiters. Just keep it contained to this general
Can we get a list of "verified" trips going to add to the OP template?
>>28279709
i suppose ill just stick to the SL lifts then, i think i should supplement it with calisthenic exercises as well. dunno which maybe something for abwork
>>28279770
Let's say you're a weakling, lazy, scrawny, and just all around useless and directionless.
Can the military fix you? Is one branch better than the others at doing that?
>>28279785
How do you mean?
>>28279837
the military can help, but you also need the drive to want to fix yourself
navy would be my recommendation
>>28279837
>lazy
Gotta work on that one first yourself. Nothing external can fix that problem, it can only come from within.
>>28279909
It'd be nice to have some of the better known trips have their qualifications(though I know a lot of you guys don't necessarily want to be verified) in the OP so when ya'll answer questions we have an idea where that knowledge is coming from.
>>28279282
NUPOC, ROTC.
AF has TDSP.
hopefully you're a STEM major.
Ok, I'm leaving for army basic on the 28th.
How fucked am I in the running department if I can only do a 10 minute mile?
>>28279770
Let's answer the question once and for all:
Enlist BEFORE or AFTER college?
>http://strawpoll.me/6333620
>http://strawpoll.me/6333620
>http://strawpoll.me/6333620
>>28280029
Enlisting after college just meant I had more medical hoops to jump through. Broke a lot of small bones in those four years.
>>28280083
how did you manage to do that?
>>28280093
excessive masturbation
>>28280099
I would say advanced, not excessive.
>>28280099
>>28280122
did you go to an all-guy's college or something? do those even exist anymore?
>>28280133
I didn't, but it sure felt like it sometimes.
>>28280146
engineering school, i take it.
why not commission with an engineering degree?
>>28279980
Im biology psych double major, "focus" in neuroscience.
Im not tryna be an officer though, Is there a program for enlisted? I just dont want to get stuck with more than 4 yrs commitment cause I want to go to med school, but dont quite have the grades right now.
>>28279980
HPSP is easily the best if you can handle becoming a doctor.
The only bad part is the summer training is sort of stupid, but the bonus was nice in 2003 (no idea if it is now).
>>28280204
can i do that hpsp shit once im in as an officer
like lateral transfer to that
>>28279937
Oh I see, as far as I know the only trips that post here are me and occasionally Ranger Ricky. So I don't think there would be much to put down.
>>28280009
It's definitely going to suck, but you probably won't be the worst person there if that helps. Where are you going for basic?
>>28280228
Yes, you can go to medical school under the HPSP or another program that I forget once you are in, but HPSP dose commit you to being a army or navy doctor for a while. That's fine though, as you are legally untouchable and when you figure in insurance and shit you make as much money in the Navy as you do in the first years of private practice.
>>28280234
That tranny ivy comes occasionally and tells people to avoid security forces, is she right?
>>28279937
Dude, it's all in the FAQ.
>>28280324
>listening to a tranny's opinions on the military
Mate....
>>28280324
From what I've picked up on /k/, the Security Forces is nothing but MPs that wish they were infantry.
>>28280387
Even if they are actually in the military and have experience with that career field?
>>28280459
>trannies
>in the military
>>28280324
I wouldn't be able to answer that, I'm going Army so I know nothing about AF jobs. And all I know about the tranny is he completely derailed the thread before.
>>28280324
she's right. it'll make you hate yourself, trust me. you'll wish every day you had gone into something meaningful.
>>28280474
Dude she is legit, i was security forces and i talked to her, she ACTUALLY is, or was sf at one point.
As far as what she actually looks like, i didnt see.
I have her on skype i could get her in here if you have any questions about that stuff
Hey guys, how accurate is this chart?
Can you get disqualified at MEPs for having light stretch marks? (armpit area)
If yes is there a waver or anything to get around the dq ?
>>28280550
>her
>her
>her
>her
anon, i have some news for you....
>>28280554
The please don't rape people part? Pretty accurate
>>28280536
>she
>>28280550
>her
>>28280009
You'll get fixed
>>28280554
Right now, horrifyingly accurate
>>28280646
no, I have news for YOU.
it's 2015, and your "you stay what you're born as: mentality is about ten years out of style. we're living in a time where people aren't ashamed to talk about how they feel. your fucking continuous pronouns maymay isn't helping anyone, and you're only showing how fucking out of touch you are with reality and how uncomfortable you are with the idea of people having any kind of sexuality or identity that differs from yours. I bet you're a trump supporter too, you fucking bigot. grow up.
>>28280645
No, I made it through MEPs with stretch marks (lost a shit ton of weight before though). The only way you may get disqualified if some mongoloid government contract shitlord gets a wild hair up their ass that the scars may be from you cutting yourself.
Also, just generally be aware that all MEPs employees are complete and total assholes for absolutely no reason. Seriously, not even the admin people during reception were as terrible. It's like the legitimately hate themselves more than they want to have a job
Ok can we stop talking about trannies damn
Who the fuck made the pastebins, I have to go in and add shit
>>28280554
replace the fire extinguisher part with "meaningless repetitive bullshit" and it's pretty accurate. might also want to cut a tiny slice out of the red in order to add "reminders to practice basic hygiene"
Joining up as an STO in the Air Force. How far below the standard does my 3 mile time need to be? Minimum to apply for STO says 22 mins for 3 miles, but I think I can drop it down towards 15.
>>28280727
Does the airforce have a 3 mile test? If so, 15 is pretty fucking phenominal and if you can do it, you should
>>28280736
They do for special operations. I used to run cross country/track, but my swimming is probably going to suck ass until I train more.
>>28280713
Hm I got a decent amount of scars on my hands from snowboarding for 10 years without gloves. MEPs for sure sounds like a nightmare.
>>28280694
ok buddy
>>28280755
MEPs was worse than reception and basic for me, if only because those assholes knew they could make or break your military career and they acted like it.
>>28280751
Shit dude, 15 minute three mile is awesome. If you can do it without wrecking your body before you leave, do it. You can only help yourself if you get serious about running. I never ran more than a 9 minute mile in highschool, and I got my time down to a 14 minute 2-mile on my final test
>>28280783
So once you get disqualified at MEP's it's game over for life or how does that system work?
>>28280783
I could always get sub 5 min miles, and that was before I started really trimming down recently. I practice 3.2 miles as though it were 3 miles, my goal is to push down from ~16 mins to 15. I figure if I max that out, max out ASVAB, and max out push-ups it will help me work past a weak but passing swim score.
>>28280810
There are things that get you DQ'd for life and things that will make you wait a certain time until it clears up or for you to come back with a doctors signature saying the condition won't effect you in a negative way during your training and military career. There was a dude I was in MEPS with, super cool, 98 ASVAB scores, was gonna be a medic. Got DQ'd for life for having scars all over his forearms that they said were suicide attempts and he said they were from working construction. Shit happens
>>28280834
Your ASVAB (outside of your GT score for specialist trainging) will not affect a single thing after you pick your MOS. If your PT scores will prevent you from getting your MOS of choice, work on your weak points over your strong points.
>>28280856
My ASVAB is solid.
>>28280867
ASVAB has nothing to do with your training. Get your swim up if you're at all in trouble of getting sent home for it.
I have been summoned?
>>28280324
Yes, I am right. Avoid security forces, unless you don't care about receiving meaningful training that can get you into a decent job, let alone any job on the outside, and you only want to PRETEND to do cool things.
>>28280401
Somewhat true, we also get a taste of the fuck fuck games and being treated like a child in a way not experienced by the rest of the air force, without the added benefit of actually being something cool.
>>28280474
Yes, there are trans people in the military. Deal with it.
>>28280694
Agreed.
>>28280718
I really do stick to talking about military stuff related to the actual thread, but others constantly bring up that shit every time they see me.
>>28280755
>snowboarding without gloves
Dear god, why?
>>28280904
>others constantly bring up that shit every time they see me
>every time they see me
>see me
Solution: Stop fucking tripping, you mentally ill fuckwit
>>28280924
He's doing it to derail these threads. Stop feeding the troll.
>>28280713
>The only way you may get disqualified if some mongoloid government contract shitlord gets a wild hair up their ass that the scars may be from you cutting yourself.
This may be a problem for me
Every time someone beings up military things and I mention that I'm going into the AF and they thank me for my willingness to serve, I feel like even once I get in it will be underserved because I won't be in danger except for plane malfunctions (1A8X1 afsc)
I don't think that this afsc deserves as much respect, especially compared to Delta force, seals, etc
>>28280009
Me too! Benning?
>Dear god, why?
Idk didn't really need any gloves. I always trained in a half pipe or went to the city to slide on the rails.
>>28280980
I'm heading to Benning Jan 3rd, are you going 11B?
>>28280942
>someone specifically mentions a person related to a topic they want to learn about
>other people make a big deal about nothing for no other reason than the fact that they dislike the person in question
>that person shows up
>STOP DERAILING THE THREAD
you have the IQ of a powdered donut.
>>28281018
11x. Hopefully b. I'll probably just be getting out of reception when you get there.
>>28281022
>you have the IQ of a powdered donut.
I'd rather be a powdered donut than a tranny shit
>>28281032
Nice, I actually start OSUT on the 15th so probably.
>>28281039
thank you for reinforcing my argument. I appreciate it.
have fun trying to adapt to the 21st century.
>>28281075
Look for the tall overweight guy that can barely do one push up but runs OK.
>>28274848
>You're just being cautious, albeit overly.
>You want a 280+ PT score when you get to basic. It looks good and I'll reflect on you nicely. I say wait, but no more than 6 months.
Understood, that's easily doable.
>>28281039
>>28281078
yeah come on dude its 2015 you cant think this way in the year 2015
>>28281171
I miss constanza
>>28280949
>>The only way you may get disqualified if some mongoloid government contract shitlord gets a wild hair up their ass that the scars may be from you cutting yourself.
If this is my situation, how do I go about covering that shit up at MEPS?
>>28280482
she didnt derail that thread. i asked about joining the military while trans, because /lgbt/ just says
>why would you ever join the military lol
and questions about enlisting are what these threads are supposedly about. instead of taking me seriously or answering the question, i just got all kinds of hate over being trans from everyone except the tripfag and like 1 other anon. i really hope everyone isnt like most of the people in here once i actually do join
>>28281312
Kill yourself you fucking freak.
So I am looking to join but I am a bit nervous that during MEPS they might notice some scarring that is roughly 8 years old from self cutting when I was really young. It is almost not even noticeable should I be worried about this?
>>28281100
Haha, will do m8. I've got a Ranger contract, so look for some hardcore wannabe operator faggot
>>28281509
a bit. if anyone notices, have a good prepared lie, like "oh I was attacked by a huge cat when I was like 7, and it left scars on my arm." how many are there? how deep were the cuts? make your cover story believable. military doesn't like the idea of taking in people with a history of mental health issues, even if it was just "I cut myself once and didn't like it."
>>28281551
like four. Only one is really even noticable on my inner thigh towards the knee. Very shallow cuts.
>>28281551
Would really have to stretch the skin, I have white pinkish skin so its pretty damn hard to see. In MEPS are you butt ass naked in a room or is it like a doctors office exam?
>>28281532
You mean everyone there including myself?
>>28281580
ah. then yeah, you should be fine with a decent story. just don't let anyone ever find out.
>>28281591
>are you butt ass naked in a room or is it like a doctors office exam?
you'll either leave your underwear on or get totally naked, depending on where you are. they do a full physical. mine was full naked.
>>28281600
kek
>>28281624
Thanks man yea hopefully it won't be. I kind of doubt it would be, literally anything from bushwhacking to ranch work could of cause them. Thanks again
>>28281624
>>28281672
Agreed, this has eased some of my concerns, have a nice night holmes.
>>28281600
True dat.
>>28281624
>full naked
Glad mine wasn't, my MEPS was full of twiggy kids who look like the only after school activity they do is move their fingers on an Xbox controller.
>>28281312
i would tell you not to advertise and draw attention to yourself and keep your head down, but then I realize that you are another special snowflake ridden piece of garbage that loves attention and causing drama where there needn't be any, so instead I'm going to go with my gut and say DON'T JOIN! No one besides your lgbt group gives a shit about your progressive, politically correct beliefs and concerns. And the military does not need your kind, they need real people who will be part of the solution, not causing problems because of muh special needs bs. With that said tumblr is what you're looking for.
>>28281312
Thanks, lol.
Yes, there are quite a few, but not everyone. Just hang out with the females, they are usually more understanding.
>>28281425
Sorry bro, you lose. By the time most of you come in, depending on your job if course, talk like that won't be tolerated anymore.
>>28281452
>ivy and erin
Thanks,
Are you someone we know?
>>28281992
>Yes, there are quite a few, but not everyone. Just hang out with the females, they are usually more understanding.
You mean the most worthless part of the military?
>>28281992
>Sorry bro, you lose. By the time most of you come in, depending on your job if course, talk like that won't be tolerated anymore.
Right...
>>28281992
>Are you someone we know?
HONK HONK
>>28282194
what, you don't think that in our currently rising sjw "muh feelings" culture that being open about hating a specific demographic will be looked down upon and vocalizing your narrow-minded dogmatism won't be punished? you think suddenly it will become acceptable to discriminate against a select group of people simply because you're uncomfortable with the idea of people having a brain that functions differently than yours? I can't imagine how fulfilling of a life you must lead with a mind that runs in reverse and is incapable of allowing its host to realize when it's wrong. like I said before, have fun in the 21st century.
polite sage for off-topic.
>>28282385
>people having a brain that functions differently?
Thanks for proving everyone's point and realizing why the military will never take you.
>>28282402
except I'm already in the military, and so are several of my trans friends. but okay. if you're going to allow your vitriol-induced cognitive dissonance to completely overwhelm the natural functioning of your prefrontal cortex, I'll simply stop attempting to reason with you.
also, please remain aware of global rules 3 and 6 at all times.
>>28282385
>>28282476
>so progressive
>>28282476
LOL i knew this kid that was trans and had a trans girl/boy/wtfeverfriend. Everyone was nice to him but hated his guts behind his back. He wouldn't shut the fuck up about stupid shit. Sound familiar?
>>28282508
>such shitposting
>>28282527
everyone knows someone like that. what's your point?
>>28282385
Lol sry i dont know who im talking to lol
>>28282476
Fuuuck i feel like i should know who you are
What kind of shit do the Rangers get up to these days? Are they still a 'tip of the spear' force even though the military is winding down?
Military ramp up when?
>>28282774
read Relentless Strike, lots of stuff about how the Rangers have evolved over the past decades to get where they are now.
You guys talk about aus forces here?
well if you do I have a problem.
Kinda was a cunt back in year 10 and didn't hand in my final enlgish assignment which caused me to fail. On the site it says a prerequisite is to have passed year 10 english and math. Am I fucked? I aced eng and math in year 12 if that matters
>>28280234
Original OP here, I'm going to Jackson as a 25N.
>>28280980
Jackson.
I leave for Benning early February, any of you guys gonna be there around then?
Lurking Drills pls
>>28283299
TO INFINITY
>>28281312
The mostly male-oriented, testosterone driven, mostly conservative force that is the military will not be kind to you if you're afraid of getting your feelings hurt
>>28283320
>The mostly male-oriented, testosterone driven, mostly conservative force that is the military will not be kind to you if you're afraid of getting your feelings hurt
just hang out with the women, ivy says
>>28281591
You will strip down to your undies in a room full of other men to do an examination of your body to make sure you're fit for training. Practice duck-walking now. After that, you'll have to bend over and spread your cheeks for a doctor and he may or may not probe your boipussy depending on how it looks
How much monthly disposable income can I expect to have as an E-1?
>>28279825
All the lifts that guy listed are good, and he's right that those should be your main workouts. Also work the shit out of your core, do a lot of situps, planks, side planks, leg raises, etc., 8-count bodybuilders are pretty good for a general calisthenic exercise as well. I would suggest adding some tricep pushdowns and reverse curls to your routine, and make sure you SQUEEZE THE SHIT out of the bar when you lift. That will help build your triceps, for pushups, and the back of your wrist and forearm/bicep for grip, respectively, and because there's no reason not to do a few curls while you're at it since normies won't think you're /fit/ unless you have big arms.
>>28280009
it will suck but that's "good enough" going in and they will make you better.
>>28280083
How the fuck did you do that? I'm a sophomore in college and still never broken a bone in my life.
>>28280727
good luck dude, a 15 minute 3 mile is pretty much fucking world class running
>>28280904
>others constantly bring it up
you riling them up and playing along doesn't fucking help, all you do is derail threads
>>28283331
Ivy is an attention whoring abomination. I yearn for the days when we locked people away who thought they were things that were physically impossible
>>28280904
You mean people remember all the shit you post because you have a name attached to yourself to paint yourself as the progressive future of /k/? Yeah, kill yourself
>>28283342
Also, some anon asked for me in the last thread about whether running would help his gains, but I didn't see it before it archived.
Running will definitely help your gains, because it makes you more efficient in the gym and the higher endurance you develop lets you lift heavier weights for longer, as well as reducing your recovery time. Running being bad for gains is just a /fit/ meme, it's pretty much the best thing you can do. If you were to choose just running or just lifting, just running would be easily superior.
>>28283357
This, it's much easier to get stronger than it is to get better at running. I'm just lucky that I was naturally gifted enough to come out with a 14 minute two mile with no prior running. I've gotten down to a 13:25 since
The most physically and psychologically intense job possible. Which MOS did I just describe?
>>28283351
>future of /k/
Lol, i have been here for a long time. only the tripcode is relatively recent
>>28283474
admin clerk
Any Air Force Cyber Transport folks (3D1x2) here?
How long was tech school for you? I know it's ~130 instruction days or so, but how long were you really there?
Also do you like your job?
>>28280727
15 minute 3 mile? That's insane. Seriously Olympian level. Are you already extremely fit?
>>28280976
Most of us feel the same way. Just say "Thank you for your support" and maybe say something about the people who are in combat deserving much more thanks, if you can do it politely.
>>28280976
Most of us feel the same way. Just say "Thank you for your support" and maybe say something about the people who are in combat deserving much more thanks, if you can do it politely.
>>28283474
Probably EOD. It's at a unique intersection of academic and physical difficulty.
Anyone else here an 18X? I have yet to meet or talk to anyone else with my contract.
I posted this on the last thread. /k bro's. Honest opinion. I want to join the military , specifically the navy . Would intel or MA better be suited for an agency job. I eventually want to go law enforcement but dont know which route I should take . I am almost done with my degree but not really interested in local leo jobs. any advice /k ?
>>28284180
>/k
are you serious? are you from reddit?
>>28284199
No I'm on my phone and I wrote that in a hurry because I'm my shitty work breaks are not long enough to type everything out that I wanted to say in time.
>>28284199
>someone misses writing a slash
>must be reddit
okay then
Ok, so weird question:
I was sized for an 8.5 wide while at reception, right? Boots fit perfectly and all, but if I go to buy Rocky or Nike boots, are they also sized the same? Or that's just for issued gear?
In the last thread some dude said that x% of the people/immigrants in the army can't even speak English. What kind of MOS would those people even qualify for? Something cooking/laundry related?
Hows Ft Still for AIT? Going there in January.
>>28284640
They qualify for all the same MOSes as someone who actually believes what they read on a Botswanan oil painting mailing list.
>>28284640
If they have a US passport, the same jobs as everyone else.
Otherwise, like nothing.
I'm kind of at a loss right now with my life. About to turn 28, and my business I started years ago is about to be shuttered early next year. I have a useless film degree from a tech school but I'm very fit. I've lifted for years and decent cardio from gym and club rugby.
What are some good resources to look at my military options since I would be enlisting in my late 20s, with a high school diploma. Like I said I'm very fit and strong. The only valuable knowledge I have outside of my previous work (online sales) is automotive. Worked in service and have restored and built a couple cars. I'm just in a shitty place, especially trying to keep it together during the holidays knowing what's inevitable and trying to find out what would be available for me in the military.
>>28283299
I'll be in the second phase by then. Do drill sgts really lurk?
>>28284736
I'm talking about green card holders that for one reason or another haven't learned the language properly
>>28284640
Tbh I remember most of my cadre in basic having some accent or being straight up unintelligible.
Makes sense though; foreigner wants to get into America, make them join a combat mos right?
>>28284759
What country are you from?
Also keep in mind boot camp will most likely suck ass because kids who just graduated high school will be alongside you, and a lot of officers will probably be younger too.
>straight up unintelligible
and they made it through basic? I always worry about my 1990 Arnold Schwarzenegger accent.
A friend of mine (4 years Army/Airborne) said that those guys end up with shitty jobs such as Petroleum Supply Specialist.
Will the Air Force actually bother to look into my medical history if I decide to go for a secret security clearance?
>>28284837
I'm American, I know the age difference would make me stick out in basic. Not worried about keeping up though.
>>28284892
Alright, good. What branch(es) are you interested in? Also having automotive knowledge can come in handy, so that's good.
>>28284850
One of my drill sergeants was from Peru and we had no fucking idea what she was saying.
>>28283333
What is the purpose of the asshole inspection? Like are hemorrhoids a DQ or something? They can't be looking to see if you take cock anymore because DADT is gone.
>>28284914
Well, it looks like I missed the age cutoff for marines so army and maybe navy.
I've got 6 weeks of bct left when leave is over, then ait obviously. I know my pay grade (e3 kek) but is there any chance of getting more money for going somewhere "dangerous?"
I know one girl who left her unit in the guard to go somewhere in trashcanistan and she was mouthing off about 150k (+hazard pay?) for her deployment, no taxes. I'm not a medic like her, but everyone says they need mechanics (91bH8) fucking everywhere. What are my options to get that money?
>>28280867
if you're gonna be a STO, you need to take the AFOQT. also you basically talk to the community, they decide that you'd be a good fit and addition to the community, then they give you an OTS slot. works a bit different from the usual rated board/nonrated board OTS system.
>>28284776
They don't care about the language really, as long as you can pass the ASVAB they figure it's good enough.
Green card is more of a problem. You're locked out of TS and a lot of jobs have a US Passport requirement on top of that, even if they don't even require secret clearance.
>>28280554
can we not all just admit that servicemen are natural born rapers?
>>28280694
>it's 2015
>>28284759
For me, if I were enlisting at that age, I'd need some real motivation. Really real motivation, you know? It sounds like you're in a rut. Being in a rut isn't a good reason to make such a big commitment, and yes, it is a huge commitment. There's a reason the uniformed services make up only 1% of the population.
If you enlisted the way you are now, you'd be a fuzzy private, you'd be disillusioned by week 2 of basic because your platoon guide will be a decade younger than you, then your squad leader will be even younger, you probably won't stick out as a PT stud or excellent shooter, so there's no satisfaction there, you're going to be hard to train (no offense) because you're fully developed but have no military bearing (jrotc/rotc) and are you ready to get 50 dudes smoked because you forgot to curl your fingers while marching?
Add to that, you're joining because life sucks where you're at, so where's the motivation to continue? Either way, life sucks a lot more when you're in bct, and doesn't really get better when you're in permanent party.
Hella fun in ait though, fuck I wish it was longer.
Just think about it though.
>>28285265
Was she an officer? (more pay) Was she married? (sep pay) Was she a flying medic? (flight pay) Also her job could have a reenlistment bonus and doing it in a tax free zone gets you a lot more money so she could of added that to her "150K". Also I just looked up your MOS sounds like you probably have a slight chance to deploy but I bet they have your MOS at almost every base so you don't do rotations.
>>28285103
hemmerhoids are a DQ.
>>28285330
I believe she was e5, but beyond that no clue. In my case I'm thinking I'll probably end up somewhere boring, but stable. My recruiter was 1sg at his place and said he'll try to get me an option for an MP unit, no clue where though.
German is on my language thing though, so it'll probably be Germany
>>28285261
wait, do you have a bachelor's from an accredited institution? because you at least can do the officer thing if you desire to.
>>28285364
Recruiters don't deal with assignments or orders to your first base. And having a language doesn't mean you are going to be stationed there. You speaking German will literally give the unit no advantage to fixing vehicles.
>>28283357
hey mate, I was a potential royal marine officer asking for help in the last thread. You told me to list a bunch of shit and then you could help me, but the thread 404'd before I could reply.
What do you need to know again?
>>28285426
here you go
http://desustorage.org/k/thread/28265596/#28265596
>>28285409
Hmm. Oh well. Hopefully it's somewhere high speed, that pays more right?
I know from talking to every 91b I could (from reception up to my company) that I'm the only one with h8 school coming up, maybe that'll make me a little more employable.
>>28285436
thanks.
>>28283357
>tell me as much as you can about your current fitness (pushup/situp #, mile time, height/weight, other information, etc) and your goals, and I'll try to help you.
>pushup
20
>situp
30
>mile time
10 minutes 30 s
>height
5'11"
>weight
73kg
>any other information
going for the royal marines, won't join for a couple of years yet so I have a lot of time.
>>28285331
The Hell? Why?
>>28285594
"if large, symptomatic, or bleeding."
dunno dude, i just work here.
also prolapse and some other stuff.
because its fucking gross dude
>>28285617
Oh so if it's a minor one that just itches but no bleeding it's okay? I have a very small one like that but it seems to be getting better as I lose weight and get more for. Could just be I'm eating better but I'm afraid of being DQd for it when I sign up for the reserve when I improve my run times.
>>28280904
>Yes, there are trans people in the military. Deal with it.
That's against the rules though.
>>28285678
eat more veggies and hydrate.
>>28285684
if you just dress up i think it could be OK, but hormones or surgery are gonna have to wait until you get out.
>>28280694
>current year
>Trump
>petty insults
7/10 bait.
You made an effort, but there's still room for improvement.
>>28284587
fit varies between brands. You will probably be more or less an 8.5E in most brands, but you might be a 9E, 8E, 8.5D, etc. depending on that brand's lasts.
>>28285762
yeah, my Danners are a 10.0D, my Lowas are 9.0D, and Bellevilles are 9.0E. running shoes are usually 9.5-ish.
>>28280904
I agree, we should deal with the trannies in the military.
If we could round up all the Japanese during WWII we can certainly put all of the degenerates into a camp now.
Build them some nice showers while we're at it.
But seriously, please contribute to the high statistics and off yourself.
>>28285467
What are your goals and current routine?
>>28285800
nah, wait until you leave so i don't have to do yet another suicide prevention training.
>>28281425
Could I roid in ait?
>>28285811
you could marry a stripper and do cocaine off her asscrack while banging an underaged girl and raping a captain while selling spice and beating your wife before offing yourself in AIT.
but please don't, it's hard enough to get work done without safety down days for interminable queepy briefings.
>>28285831
So you're saying I could roid in ait though? Just don't get caught?
>>28285804
well in a few months I need to do the PJFT, which is a 1.5 mile run in 12 minutes, a 1 minute rest and then another 1.5 mile run in 10 minutes.
As for the proper joining criteria, which I likely have around 9 months to a year to prepare for:
Day One
>level 13 20 metre bleep test
>60 press ups in two minutes
>85 situps in two minutes
>16 pull ups
Day Two
>Tarzan Assault Course
>"timed run" around course (couldn't find any real details on these)
>Endurance Course: 3 hour 2.5 mile endurance course, running through hills, swimming through underwater tunnels, crawling in the mud and shit
Day Three
>four mile run back to camp
>>28280554
does all the getting told not to rape not just make you want to rape EVEN more?
>>28285874
No routine? Are you not working out right now? It's much easier for me to help you with your routine than to just make one from scratch that may be a lot different from yours when yours could be just as good. Plus its a lot of work for me that I don't want to do.
>>28285909
I've recently recovered from having mono, so I've just been running about once a week and doing the occasional pushups or pullups when I felt like it.
>>28285467
Try the programs onehundredpushups and twohundredsitups for your pushup/situp counts, they seem reasonably effective to me. You can supplement with bench press, chest flies, leg raises, planks, etc. for variety and to develop all the muscles. Tricep pushdowns can help if you struggle with bench or pushup count, most people have a stronger chest than triceps. Once you get stronger dips are good as well. For pullups try rows of any kind if you're not yet strong enough to do pullups, and lat pulldowns are exactly the same motion. Try C25k+B210k, pic related, for running. Once you finish c25k you can add intervals for speed work.
>>28286003
Also, you need to be working out at least 3 times a week to see much progress, and you can easily do every other day if you still with bodyweight/calisthenic exercises. Try maybe doing your workouts for pushups, pullups and situps on the same day, followed by a moderate run, and on rest days do a full cardio workout.
I ran 7.5km in 41 minutes, from 50 minutes just a month ago, feels good man. Is it a good idea to step it up to 10km now?
>>28286003
>>28286017
Cheers, mate.
>>28285286
>
Green card is more of a problem. You're locked out of TS and a lot of jobs have a US Passport requiremen
Yeah I was pretty disappointed when I found out that I wouldn't qualify for any form of MP MOS because immigrants can't obtain the required security clearance. However my green card status shouldn't be a problem when trying to obtain your average 03xx Marine MOS right?
Btw what's TS?
>>28286353
Top Secret clearance
>>28286353
A lot of options are open to you in the Marine Corps. Infantry, artillery minus observer, aviation, mechanic, stuff like that.
>>28286003
i've done them. they're shit. nsw program is probably better for that guy. either that or a good iron man/triathlon program. he would have limited use for weights and unless they're weightlifters or powerlifters, pro-athletes usually reserve heavy lifting for the off season (if at all) and the rest of the time it's maintenance or rehab/prehab. the sport takes priority and you only have limited recovery time.
why the fuck you're recommending chest flies to a mil candidate i have no idea.
>lat pulldowns are exactly the same motion.
they're not. especially how they're usually performed in a gym.
http://main.poliquingroup.com/ArticlesMultimedia/Articles/Article/1161/Why_You_Must_Do_Chin-Ups.aspx
>>28286441
Chest flies and tricep pushdowns isolate the chest and triceps, the two main groups used in pushups, to help you get better faster. If you do only pushups/bench you may be held back by overworking your triceps/chest and underworking the other if one group is stronger than the other (and in most people, the chest is much stronger). Sure, the way a lot of people do them, lat pulldowns aren't the same, but with good form and the correct handle it is the exact same motion as a wide-grip pullup.
>>28286441
>>28286488
Also, it sounds like the guy isn't in great shape right now, and the NSW program will probably start off too hard for him to get much out of it yet. I do agree that it is an excellent program, though.
>>28284852
>medical history
>for a security clearance
They're not going to do that. You're fine.
What's the TS/SCI polygraph like? I've never had any drugs or even a ticket, but I've heard they will ask you about piracy and I've certainly been around the block on vidya and animu. Do they?
>>28286488
>Chest flies and tricep pushdowns isolate the chest and triceps, the two main groups used in pushups, to help you get better faster.
you mean they train muscles in isolation that are required to work in co-ordination with other muscle groups. this is the single worst idea for anyone who is not a body builder. de-coordinating, which is what you're doing, is a great way to get injured, especially because as a royal marine he will not have the option of backing off or taking it easy, and he will be worked for hours with no rest. so issues will only get exacerbated. so unless you're a body builder in which case it doesn't matter. or you're a powerlifter and you need to bring up the strength in a particular lagging muscle group that you've identified by say, failing the lockout (not likely with a naval service press up), which is only used in a strict range of motion which you are then replicating as closely as possible.
>you may be held back by overworking your triceps/chest
if you're held back by overworking your triceps then why exactly would you then do more work for your triceps in the form of tricep pushdowns.
>lat pulldowns aren't the same, but with good form and the correct handle it is the exact same motion as a wide-grip pullup.
if they're not the same, how can they then be the same? and it's not, not in the least because the body position of a dead hang changes the forces on the shoulder joint dynamically through the range of motion. hence the link i posted.
sorrry m8, mil, especially for units like the royals, isn't really gym. weights have limited utility for what this guy wants to do, and isolation exercises even less so. unless he's rehab/prehabbing an injury, his recovery time is best invested elsewhere
>>28286508
the nsw program is scaled to your current performance based on how you test, and includes back-off and substitution options for periods where you're highly fatigued. it's a good start for all levels short of morbidly obese.
http://www.cnrc.navy.mil/Graphic-Elements/PDFs/NRC-Fit-Nut-Rec-Gui-rev-1-17-13.pdf
are these workouts okay for calisthenics on off days? or is there a better routine?
>>28279770
What job can I carry a gun and be on a ship.
>>28287594
us? marine onna ship, seals. uk? rmc fleet protection, sbs.
>>28287502
I never said for him to exclusively use pushdowns/flies in place of pushups, I said that they were good supplements. And if you're overworking your triceps on bench, obviously you're not going to just add more triceps work on top with no change, you fucking mong. You're going to reduce the amount of time you spend on bench and do some accessories for a couple weeks to help the imbalance. And then you jump right into "the military won't let him rest, so why should he rest?" The military is far from flawless, especially with their exercise programs. That same logic is the stuff that convinces people on /k/ that it's a good idea to go out and explode their knees by doing 40 pound ruck runs when they can hardly even run a mile.
Maybe I have weird form, but in my experience the motion for a lat pulldown and a wide grip pullup feels exactly the same in my back/shoulders. I'll admit that that's pretty anecdotal.
I never told him "lift heavy and GOMAD!" I told him to focus primarily on pushups, pullups, core work, and running. All of the lifts I suggested were for if he has shortcomings or difficulties making progress, but you're jumping to attack the supplements I suggested when he won't even be doing most of them, or often, and none of them if he's lucky.
>>28287594
Gunner's mate and officer of the deck are the only people aboard that handle weapons I believe
>>28279770
I enlist in marines april. Where should I expect to invade? Nigeria?
Currently an 88M and fucking hate it. Want to change MOS to 25B. Is it any good?
Hey guys, I was here a couple thread ago.
Wanting a 68W+op40 contract
If I went to a recruiter tomorrow with a 10 minute mile, 30 pushups, 35 situps would I be able to max APFT by the time I finished DEPS+BCT+AIT?
>>28287971
>you fucking mong.
really now. gloves are off are they?
>And if you're overworking your triceps on bench, obviously you're not going to just add more triceps work on top with no change
how exactly is a rank beginner going to know that he is even over working his triceps on the bench press. i doubt you would even be able to pick it if you were. because you sure as hell don't sound like you have a clue.
>>28286488
>Chest flies and tricep pushdowns isolate the chest and triceps, the two main groups used in pushups, to help you get better faster. If you do only pushups/bench you may be held back by overworking your triceps/chest and underworking the other if one group is stronger than the other (and in most people, the chest is much stronger).
the carry over of chest flys into the bench or major pressing exercises is precisely fuck all. it's use is to rehab/prehap the pecs and anterior deltoid for powerlifters (low weight, straight arm, high reps to stretch under load) or to pump for bodybuilders. isolating the triceps is only of value is you're a powerlifting blowing the lockout. this guy is a royal marine candidate, he'd be better served switching out to dips if he's plateaued on press ups, or simply varying his hand postions. which is incidentally advised in the nsw program you've never read.
>And then you jump right into "the military won't let him rest, so why should he rest?"
yes, you stupid cunt. because it demonstrates that instead of posturing in front of a mirror like a faggot he needs to build endurance and work capacity to a very high level. are you that fucking stupid. it doesn't matter if the military is imperfect, because they are the keyholders, and the royal marines will actually fail people out if they don't meet the standard. it's not the us army and it's not the queens own bumfuck rifles.
>>28288345
Iraq war 3 electric boogalee
>>28288412
Depends on where you work. You could be doing IT shit churning out certs and setting shit up right at Ft Meade; or you could be at Ft Bliss working for a random battalion and all you do is details and plugging in ethernet cables for autistically retarded officers at a FOB in the 'field'.
>>28287971
>That same logic is the stuff that convinces people on /k/ that it's a good idea to go out and explode their knees by doing 40 pound ruck runs when they can hardly even run a mile.
that is not at all the 'logic' here. my advise has been to train to the demands that will be imposed, what the bulgarians called specific adaptation to imposed demands (SAID). specifically the imposed demand will be a VERY HIGH WORKRATE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, BECAUSE HE WILL BE COMMANDO ROLE NOT FUCKING AROUND IN THE MARGINS. i have never advised him to over-extend himself when he is not ready, so you can take that strawman and fuck yourself up the ass with it. you're the guy who is actually sending him off on a fucking tangent and setting him up to fail.
>>28285292
College has 1000% more 'rapey' people in it than the military does.
>>28288540
This. This. A million times this. Date rape was stupid common in college.
>>28287389
I'm not an expert, maybe others know better, but they mostly want to see if you will tell the truth and how you act under pressure. No one gives a shit if you downloaded some anime or pirated a game or movie. I have heard they will ask you outrageous stuff just to mess with you, put you under stress and see how you react.
>>28285103
In the past, looking for homosexuals.
Today, if you have a real fucked up asshole with hemorrhoids and fissures everywhere can be a hygeine or general health concern.
Also your asshole in rare cases can show some major mental or physical deficiencies such as Down's syndrome.
>>28284852
Its highly illegal to tamper with someone's medical records, even clearance checks aren't allowed.
Plus there is no database of medical records unless publically admitted to a mental institution. You have to go to every clinic/hospital you've ever been to to find records, and as aforementioned...it's illegal.
>>28288540
>>28288550
shagging some girl while she's rolling on MDMA doesn't count as actual rape
>>28288509
I would prefer a comfy spot at a desk doing IT shit, but honestly I wouldnt doing the latter. Anything has got to be better than what im doing now. All the 21A and 25B's at my unit all have this air of superiority about them that seperates them from us lowly truckers. They don't even hold themselves to the same bs we have to follow for whatever reason and I want in that.
>>28288587
Dude. Don't be a fuck. There is a distinction between fucking a chick after she's had a few drinks, and fucking a chick after you've roofied her and she's unconscious. Also
>rolling on MDMA
MDMA is fucking stimulant, not a date rape drug. You can be fully functional on MDMA though I wouldn't drive on it.
>>28288559
>Also your asshole in rare cases can show some major mental or physical deficiencies such as Down's syndrome.
>asshole
>shows down syndrome
i would have thought being a fucking mongoloid retard would have indicated the presence of trisomy
>>28288559
>Also your asshole in rare cases can show some major mental or physical deficiencies such as Down's syndrome.
>>28288615
Lmao bro they hand that shit out like candy anyways, who cares if some ugly fuck wants to spend some dosh on a dodgy pill and get sum lovin'
>>28288750
Don't even bother arguing, it's probably Ivy, or one of it's lackey's, without a trip on.
>>28288750
>>28288764
>there are this many retards joining the military
I hope that I never have the headache of being your CO.
>>28281078
SJW spotted
>>28284089
Lucky ass. What were the requirements? When do you ship?
>>28284759
Chris Kyle was 30 when he enlisted.
> inb4 Kyle criticism
>>28288616
Holy shit it's true. You can be born without an asshole and have to have it surgically created. And since Downs can be mild and you're just stupid and not mongoloid...
http://patient.info/doctor/downs-syndrome-trisomy-21
Scroll down to Imperforate Anus
>>28288919
He was actually 25, they got his age wrong in American Sniper.
Still older than most of the people here though. And 28 isn't that far off.
>>28288951
24* sorry, not 25
>>28284089
I am senpai. What have you been doing to prepare for selection? What MOS are you shooting for?
>>28288799
>retard
Hey I'm joining as an officer, I just also happen to have a massive rape fetish.
How many people go in with an 18X or Option 40 contract, wash out of Special Forces Selection/RASP and spend the rest of their enlistment as bitter and resentful 11Bs?
>>28288951
>tfw saw that and had hope I could do something with myself if I didn't get to where I want to be
>realise they got it wrong and he's only a couple of years older than i am now when he joined
ffs
>>28289442
all of them.
>>28289442
the contract like that within the australian defence force has a washout out of 90%+
>>28288345
nowhere
>>28289442
Most of them. The 82nd Airborne is literally solely comprised of bitter washouts who only passed jump school.
>>28288536
not that guy, but there really is a difference between endurance training and not letting yourself recover
>>28288896
Requirements wee pretty simple. Top secret security clearance (almost a joke), 20 years or older, ASVAB GT 107 or higher (got a 141), and passing some extra bs at MEPS. My recruiter had to call in to make my contract available, but otherwise it's not so hard to get. I ship late March to Benning.
>>28289492
What are your physical stats? APFT, lifts etc
>>28289004
My man! Where you from and when are you shipping breh? I've been doing Push-ups, Pull-ups, Sit-ups, and squats every other day. I run five times a week 3-5 miles depending on the day. I also hit a heavy bag and do hill sprints twice a week. What's your prep been like?
>>28289490
never said there wasn't.
>>28289521
My scores aren't a perfect 300 yet, unfortunately.
Push-ups: 63
Sit-ups: 92
2-mile: 13:20
I do some extra lifting and cardio, too
Pull-ups: 16
Squat 5-rep max: 245
I also climb a 25 ft Manila rope.
>>28288430
He will know his triceps are being overworked because his arms are much more tired than his chest and he is making poor progress.
And again, even though I only suggested chest flies as a potential supplement, you continue to act like I recommended he make that his only chest exercise. I did, in fact, recommend that he also do dips.
Maybe I misinterpreted you, but it really sounded like you are suggesting that rest is just a show of weakness. You will progress so much faster if you allow correct recovery time, instead of going "oh well army guys ruck 10 miles, so even though I haven't built up to 10 miles yet, I'm going to do it too." Endurance training is definitely the most important area for military fitness, but endurance training != wearing yourself out every day and making zero progress because you think it's what you're supposed to do.
I was very lazy typing out my reply to that guy's post because I had to ask him like 3 times to get all the information I needed, and you have shown me that I should have worded my reply more clearly. I typed it out from the standpoint that he/you could just intuit things that I already know. I will explain myself more thoroughly in the future.
>>28289531
I ship out February-ish, and pretty much same workouts as high school track and combined with lifting.
Trying to get my 5K back under 18 minutes and my pushups/situps above 60 by the time I ship out. It's like 18:20 now so it's pissing me off.
Doing a lot of rucking too, got a surplus backpack that I fill with cinderblocks and waterjugs. There's a sand-forest near me that's like a Fort Bragg simulator so it's a sick workout.
When's your ship date? It'd be cool/horrifying to go through the pipeline with a /k/ommando.
>>28284089
Similar. 13DXB.
>>28288422
>Wanting a 68W+op40 contract
>If I went to a recruiter tomorrow with a 10 minute mile, 30 pushups, 35 situps would I be able to max APFT by the time I finished DEPS+BCT+AIT?
Fuck it, I'm just gonna go to a recruiter tomorrow.
>>28289692
Damn, I'm a little jealous of the rucking simulator. I'm not a tried and true /k/ommando, but you won't have to going through the pipeline with me. My ship date isn't until late March. I helped my stalling on running by utilizing some nice, hilly trails that are near my town. Best of luck to you, man. We'll both need a little before selection is over.
What should I do if I want to get to selection?
I'm an airborne pog in an SF Group, when I usually ask the team guys they just say ruck/get used to having a ruck on your back. Anything else I can do?
I usually just workout a lot and do a shit ton of cardio. Since we don't do PRT.
Also what's the best ruck to use during training? I have an Alice pack/Multi cam ruck/ and a high speed Spear bag.
>>28289575
damn playa, step your game up. i'm in the AF and am an officer who's not quite as trim as he used to be, and i do more pushups in one minute than you do in 2.
also my historic 1 rep squat max is 315 (though it's probably a bit more, did it at the end of a workout and i had gas for another rep)
>>28289692
what 18 series job interests you the most?
I like 18F or 18C.
>>28289807
Congratulations? It's definitely a work in progress for me. I have three more months to get where I need to be and I'm training as well as I can.
Just heard the news and am starting to rethink joining, because if I didn't hate females interfering before, then I loathe them now for what they are about to do now: neuter the Armed Forces with 'muh special needs crap'. This is the worst thing political-correctness has done yet, and I don't want my job or my life put in jeopardy because of these cunts. All they have to do now is spout bullshit if they want you on their shit list about you raping them, and they get their way. In the field they will make life harder than it needs to be because they bleed, and most aren't strong. My fucking god this is a travesty. I will not placate to these bitches. FUCK THE POLITICALLY CORRECT!!!
>>28289762
Best advice is to follow whatever they say.
A bunch of neckbeards and teenagers on a Malaysian Basket Weaving Forum ain't gonna help much
>>28289820
18D for sure. It's a year of extra training but he payoff is you're like halfway to being a physician's assistant credits wise. Take some online classes and bam, you're Ex-SF, highly trained with at least 3 years in trauma medicine, not to mention your clearance. Makes you a real promising candidate in pretty much any job interview.
Also rest of the family if was Army Medical Corps during WW2 and Vietnam so it's in my blood.
>>28289941
Wow a fucking depper that understands already.
>>28290020
Same man. Granddad was an Army medic back in WWII and jumped into Normandy.
I got my 68w/Opt40 because I gotta continue that shit despite my dad not enlisting.
I heard from a former Ranger that since you have a skill set of a PA, might as well use your GI bill after the service to go to civilian PA school and make bank.
>>28289762
use whatever ruck you're going to use on selection. you'll probably be issued one so find out what it is and use that.
maybe take up tramping
learn to swim. it's good and if you don't feel like running then you can still get shit done.
and what the other guy said, talk to them about what they did to get in.
>>28289941
You are literally never going to be in a life threatening situation unless you drive back to the base drunk.
>>28290059
Hell you might as well use tuition assistance while you're still active to get your full Bachelors and use the G.I. Bill to go for your Masters in something else like Anesthesiology or something.
Instead of spending that 4 years post-Army in school you'll be able to jump right into your career.
new thread
>>28290268
>>28289651
>He will know his triceps are being overworked because his arms are much more tired than his chest and he is making poor progress.
or maybe he's actually weaker in the triceps and needs to give them more attention? maybe he's dropping the lift on the lockout and also needs a new shirt as well? conjugate training is really only useful if you'e putting up numbers. does he need to do any of this? i'm sorry he doesn't. it's not productive, especially if he can only do low double digit pressups.
>And again, even though I only suggested chest flies as a potential supplement, you continue to act like I recommended he make that his only chest exercise. I did, in fact, recommend that he also do dips.
why you would reccomend them to anyone other than a bodybuilder or the injured is what i am getting at.
>you will progress so much faster if you allow correct recovery time
well that's disingenious, never did i say that he should not allow appropriate recovery time. what i said was not to waste recovery time on superfluous bullshit like chest flies and faggotry. do you not realize that when you're talking about recovery time, you're actually talking about the exercises you are having to recover from? i think perhaps you don't.
>but endurance training != wearing yourself out every day and making zero progress because you think it's what you're supposed to do.
when did i say it was. but i don't think you actually comprehend the level of endurance required to get through something like commando course. you can't start at zero and expect to do the 30 miler (never said you could), but the prelim test alone (before you even get in) is back to back 1.5 mile runs. and that's the easiest part of the whole course. the entry requirements are similar to royal navy mine clearance divers, and i've talked to guys that simply recommend daily 10k runs. you don't get to stop and rest on these courses, which i don't think gym guys comprehend.
>>28290287
>>28290287
There's another 70 posts before we need a new thread. Dickwad.
>>28290287
kill yourself
>252 posts
So I booked 4B031 Bioenvironmental Engineering yesterday, I ship April 12th. Do I do good? Any other AF dudes shipping then?
>>28287389
There's no polygraph.
>>28284661
Fort Chill? Easy as fuck dude, don't even worry. Just don't try too hard at land nav and watch out for ants and you won't die. If you run into a DS Salyer, that was my Head DS and he's fucking awesome. DS Manahl is bretty good too
>>28290673
Oh, AIT? Dunno, if you're arty, it's tough shit
