Is the 1911 still relevant today? What's your opinion, /k/?
Is it worth it to buy a 1911? Would you trust one for carry or home defense? All opinions welcome.
All you need for home defense is a 6mm carbine
>>28270840
>Is the 1911 still relevant today?
Almost every gun uses the browning system. It'll always have context. But yes
A single stack compact 45 ACP has a use.
>>28270863
>Almost every gun uses the browning system
Handgun*
>>28270840
It's like a makarov, pretty and there's history behind it, but outdated and with low capacity (and its not even reliable like a mak), there are better modern options.
>>28270840
1911s are some of the nicest handguns to shoot imo, and can be extremely reliable.
Cheap ones (RIA) can be unreliable out of the box, there are many YouTube videos on cleaning up the action on these. Ruger Sr1911s are probably the cheapest competition grade 1911, but may require some work.
I wouldn't recommend as a first pistol unless you're under 21, have machinist skills, and make one from an 80%, but I think any gun owner should acquire at least one 1911
>>28270927
>can be extremely reliable.
True, I just bought a new Colt Rail Gun and already have around a thousand rounds thru it without issues. I'm talking cheap winchester white box and then several different JHPs. No issues at all. I was honestly a bit surprised given the "1911's are jam-o-matics" meme.
>>28270927
SR1911 owner here. my pistol has the crisp'est trigger feel ever (out of box) and the only thing I've don't thus far to is was replace the grips for something a little thinner because I'm a bit of a mallet (tall, lanky arms and not much fat or muscle usually between 150 and 155)
I love it.
>>28270840
I thought that FDE Colt looked really shitty when it was first shown off, but suddenly it looks a lot sexier when it's beat up and dirty.
I will say yes its relevant, I'm sure the 1911 will always be until they make a round to top 9mm,.45, or 10mm.
Worth buying one? I suppose if you want one why not
Would I trust one? yeah, if it was the only gun I had around at a moments notice I wouldn't complain though there are others I would prefer.
>>28270995
>>28271168
As a first-time 1911 buyer, should I get the Series 70 Colt or the Sr1911 first?
>>28270840
>Is the 1911 still relevant today? What's your opinion, /k/?
It hasn't gotten any worse than it was in the year 1911.
>Is it worth it to buy a 1911?
I'd consider it worth it if it's under $400, as a range toy - the boutique precision ones are just stupid imo.
>Would you trust one for carry or home defense?
They'll work but there's so many better options these days that it'd be one of my last choices. You can get a subcompact 9mm with equal or larger capacity, or one the same size as a 1911 with nearly three times the capacity.
>>28271224
Honestly, both are good buys. I went with Colt because Colt frames are machined from forgings whereas other brands (including Ruger) are cast. Also, I think the Colt brand holds more value over time than other 1911s. Just my $0.02, I've been extremely happy with my Colt.
>>28270896
The hk45 only holds 3 more rounds
>>28270840
>Is the 1911 still relevant today?
>Handgun made in 911.M1
>Still in use in 015.M2
>Flash forward to 999.M41
The Emperor knows what Saint Browning knew, anon.
>>28270840
>Relevant
Kind of. It's relevant in that it is still a good firearm design and had several innovative elements used in many modern pistols BUT there are better options available.
>Opinion
I think it's an excellent pistol.
>worth it
Depends on what you mean. I think it'd be worth it to purchase a 1911, especially if it's an old surplus one (I love muh milsurp).
>trust for carry and home defense
I'd trust it for carry but I like other pistols better for carry. As for home defense, I'd be perfectly happy to use it. My main issue is the manual safety. I don't think it would be as big an issue for home defense as it would be for CC.
>>28271338
Well since most modern 1911 mags are 8 rounds standard, the HK45 only holds 2 more rounds and the HK45C has the same capacity as a 1911 with a modern mag.
Watch Yeager's video on 1911s.
The low quality (<$1000) are all garbage and brands like Kimber are worse than hi-point
1911s are man jewelry that fudds like to open carry to show off
I have never met anyone that actually carries one irl, but every hipster on the Internet claims to
>>28271370
Who the fuck would dump $1k on a 1911? Why? Is it just going to sit in an airtight safe for 100 years and be resold as a collector's item?
>>28271370
>trying this hard
Listen, we know /k/ is the easiest to troll but could you please keep it to a minimum? Or at least wait until the thread has been around for more than a hour?
>>28271373
No kidding. There's really not that much difference between a $500 1911 and a $1k 1911, really, either -- certainly not enough to make up for the price difference.
>>28270840
I suppose anything's relevant as long as people are paying money for them, but I would love if 1911s as a whole shifted to double stack rather than just a few companies making a double stack offering.
>>28271402
The part that gets me is that Makarovs go for $250 and they're technically superior to any 1911 - equivalent firepower, more compact, and more reliable.
>>28271373
The point is that there is no reason to buy a non custom made 1911. There are too many modern guns at lower price points that perform better
The mass produced ones are just jamtastic and the finish peels of like cheap paint
If you're going to buy a gun based on its, then at least buy one that is quality
>>28271395
>literally zero refutation
>>28271511
Stop trying to justify your poorfagedness.
9x18 will never compare to a .38 super.
>>28271516
You are declaring that all 1911's that go for under $1k are crap. This is false. That is like saying that the only good rifle is one that is over $1k. Will the higher price give you better quality? Absolutely. Does that mean that any 1911 under your arbitrary price point is complete shit? No.
So it sounds like someone trying to troll people. But hey, thread has been up for over an hour so I'll just sit back and watch the fallout.
>>28271516
>The point is that there is no reason to buy a non custom made 1911. There are too many modern guns at lower price points that perform better
So you're saying that since low-end 1911s are outperformed by cheaper guns, the solution is to make 1911s even more expensive with essentially the same performance?
>>28271536
There's also .357mag and 10mm variants of the 1911, but you're moving the goalposts.
>>28271565
>but you're moving the goalposts.
Nope.
If there's a 1911 chambered in x round it's a 1911.
If there's a Makarov chambered in anything other than 9x18 it'll still be a Makarov but there aren't and the round is shit unless you're plinking or something. When you can afford a decent handgun you'll realize this.
>>28271578
I have two decent handguns that are both superior to a .45 1911, though I will admit that the .357 Coonan is sexy and I kinda want one. I don't own a Mak or a 1911 though that doesn't invalidate my point.
>>28271626
Anything is superior to .45 bro but 1911s come in a variety of calibers.
>>28271565
>same performance
except that's wrong
All of the 1911s at your lgs are going to constantly jam
>>28271635
Okay, okay.
So why would you choose the 1911 platform specifically for [GIVEN CALIBER] if others can utilize it better, eg, higher capacity, or without the frame-cracking issues in 10mm 1911 derivatives?
>>28271658
They don't make anything else for .38 super. I wouldn't own a 9mm, 10mm or .45 1911. That's all retarded.
>>28270840
>"This is the greatest handgun ever made. The Colt Single Action Army. Six bullets... More than enough to kill anything that moves."
―Revolver Ocelot
>>28271370
Did you watch his "torture test" of a Kimber 9mm 1911? He managed to fire everything without any malfunctions, making it perform better than his Glock test.
Shit was hilarious, at the end he was just like 'yeah whatever it still sucks'
>>28271677
>They don't make anything else for .38 super.
FALSE!
http://www.gunbroker.com/Semi-Auto-Pistols/BI.aspx?Keywords=.38+super&mo=3000742
Get good.
>>28271511
>The part that gets me is that Makarovs go for $250
>$250
I actually put down my phone, got out of bed, and walked to my computer to post this at you.
>>28273195
http://www.slickguns.com/product/shooter-grade-bulgarian-makarov-pistol-9x18-pistol-23995
My bad, they're going for less in some places.
>>28273195
P64s can be had for closer to $200 as well, I've seen a few for just under.
>>28273277
>shooter grade
drown yourself
>>28273195
I just picked up a second for $250 not too long ago. Cleaner than the first I got which was only $156 or some shit.
>>28273320
Yeah, you have... fun with that. I've seen "shooter grade" Maks in the funstore before, and the $350 ones that were safe in some lazy cop's holster for 20 years and fired maybe five times. Is the discount worth it? Depends on if you plan to carry it. I'll trust my life to my 1911. I wouldn't trust it to a "shooter grade" any more than I'd trust it to those beat-to-fuck TT-33s ever Gander Mountain has on display next to the four or five Taurus revolvers they can never move.
>>28270840
Don't own a 1911, but I have a Star Super B which is a damn near clone of a 1911 in 9mm. Sweet gun, I like it it, but if I had a choice I'd probably go for a Hi-Power
>>28273337
http://www.southernohiogun.com/handguns/surplus-handguns/beretta-model-92s-9mm.html
"Like new" Beretta 92 for $339?
I'm... not sure if... what if these are stolen or something?
>>28273300
Those abortions are not a Makarov by any stretch.
>>28273354
I was under the impression that they were the same on the inside, but I've never fondled one so okay. What's bad about them?
>>28273320
>>28273352
ITT: Poorfags trying to justify their shitty bloc guns.
There are threads for you, this isn't it.
>>28273352
>I'm... not sure if... what if these are stolen or something?
Nobody with sense would steal a fucking Beretta.
As for cheap guns, I'd go with a M-57; it's literally a Yugoslav TT-33 clone chambered in 9mm. Same solid reliability, same horrid ergonomics, but the gun is brand fucking new and I've seen them on sale for as little as 200 bucks at times.
>>28273364
Internals, mostly. It's hard to fuck up simple blowback but sweet fuck the shit that will fall out of the trigger groupings sometimes... for blazing through shitty steel-cased Wolf ammo in the backyard they're fine, but I dunno about carrying them. Not when a much nicer and gently-treated Mak can be had for a little more.
>>28273368
Because said "poorfag shitty bloc guns" are equal or superior to 1911s that cost several times as much. That is fucking relevant to the thread.
>>28273377
>Internals, mostly. It's hard to fuck up simple blowback but sweet fuck the shit that will fall out of the trigger groupings sometimes... for blazing through shitty steel-cased Wolf ammo in the backyard they're fine, but I dunno about carrying them. Not when a much nicer and gently-treated Mak can be had for a little more.
That's probably good to know. I'm not in the market for one, but should I ever be in the future I'll go for a Bulgie.
>>28272096
>EAA
lol
>Is the 1911 still relevant today?
Yes, and it will be until it stops killing people
>What's your opinion, /k/?
There's nothing wrong with 1911, so long as you train decently.
>Is it worth it to buy a 1911?
Depends on the person. I payed 1600 greenbacks for my 9mm Guardian. Every dollar was worth it.
>Would you trust one for carry or home defense?
Absolutely. Gonna start carrying next year, and im going with my Guardian
>>28273378
Only 1911 I own so far is a norinco. Got it for the novelty, like most of my guns. I don't carry a single stack block of steel. But I don't gotta worry about trying to impress anyone with that.
However, I've been wanting one I can abuse innawoods that's common as fuck. Thinking one of those remingtons, but I've heard they can be spotty on fit and finish. Anyone got experience with them?
>>28270840
is the higher caliber even worth it? Isn't 16-18 9mm bullets better than 10 .45?
>>28273400
>>Is it worth it to buy a 1911?
>Depends on the person. I payed 1600 greenbacks for my 9mm Guardian. Every dollar was worth it.
Keep telling yourself that it was worth it to pay $1600 for $250 worth of gun. Go on. Maybe someday you'll actually believe it and your pillow will dry out.
I just don't understand. It's not even pretty...
Okay I give up. The justification for Guccifying a 1911 is simply incomprehensible to me.
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>Is the 1911 still relevant today?
A lot of people seem to believe it is.
>Is it worth it to buy a 1911?
Depends on how much you can afford, but I wouldn't go over $800
>Would you trust one for carry or home defense?
I would if I HAD to, but why would I when I have a Glock 17? In a real world scenario I'm going to prefer something with less kick and more rounds. For those of us who have been shot at, or have shot at people, it's a very scary situation, nothing like being at the range, even if you're doing push ups or sprints in between shots to try and get a similar effect. Breathing very hard, shaking because you're scared, everything seems heavier, feels like you might throw up and shit yourself at same time, etc. I don't want to prove how manly man I am by carrying around some heavy ass 1911 with only 8 shots and every time I pull the trigger I might take twice as long to re-aim than if I just had a "keep it simple, stupid" Glock 17.
>>28271370
>1911s are man jewelry that fudds like to open carry to show off
This guy said it best.
In my opinion, if you're carrying around a 1911, or using it for home defense, I think it has a lot more to do with nostalgia, mystique, aesthetics, etc than it does carrying the most practical pistol you can get.
I love the Luger pistol, but you don't see me carrying one around for self defense.
>>28273424
Also, I forgot to mention, I own a 1911 (SR1911 by Ruger), and it is a great gun to shoot, but I wouldn't take it past going to the range to just have some fun.
>>28273410
0/10 m8.
I want a 6 inch STI so i can shoot some fucking 450 SMC from it. 1911s are cool as hell.
>>28273424
>This guy said it best.
>if you're carrying around a 1911, or using it for home defense, I think it has a lot more to do with nostalgia, mystique, aesthetics, etc than it does carrying the most practical pistol you can get.
You do know that whats "practical" for someone can be pretty subjective, and some people actually do shoot better with 1911s and other older guns?
>>28270840
Yes.
Fuck striker fire bullshit.
Pick related.
Over 300 rounds through each one in the last week, six different brands of plinking ammo from Walmart cheapo shit to American Eagle cheap shit.
Not a single ftf,
Eight rounds cocked and locked, smaller than the palm of my hand.
$1050 for the pair with extras.
>>28270995
>>28271168
>>28270896
>>28271511
>>28271555
>>28271652
The Springfield Loaded I bough 3 years ago for 750 has over 1000 rounds put through it reliably with maybe 1 or 2 jams but that could have been operator error. Even with shit mags it's been pretty reliable. The only thing I hate about it is that stupid fucking rod.
>>28273453
I'm most accurate and comfortable with a Luger. With new magazines, I've never had malfunction. But is 8rds, a 100+ year old design, high tolerances, all steel (weight), practical? I guess it was in WWI on into WWII. With the 1911, add all that plus the ammo has heavier recoil, exposed hammer, no thanks my boy.
>You do know that whats "practical" for someone can be pretty subjective
Mosin Nagant rifle with a Nagant revolver could be practical. Maybe a pike and gladius. Not for me, not when there are weapons out there like Glocks and AKs. Practicality should be aware of other weapons available at the time.
>>28270840
Questioning whether the 1911 is relevant is a tactic used by fanboys of other pistols who feel insecure about the gun they've attached their ego to.
>>28273521
>is a gun that I'm most accurate and comfortable with, and has been perfectly reliable practical?
By the way, weight isn't all bad.
It reduces the recoil you seem so afraid of.
>>28273481
pew pew pew pew
>.380
>>28271484
That and a linkless lockup.
>>28273544
You forgot.
>9mm
I don't see why they don't just use the FNP 45. It's chambered in .45 acp, holds 15 rounds, and is about the size of a P226.
>>28273571
because it's not a special snowflake 1911.
>>28273571
Forgot pic
>>28273377
People with sense don't steal anything.
>>28273552
The link reduces friction and wear.
Linkless is just cheaper.
>>28273521
> But is 8rds, a 100+ year old design, high tolerances, all steel (weight), practical?
In reference to 1911s...
>8rds
carry more mags and practice reloading. Or get a 9mm that holds more.
>100+ year old design
old=/=obsolete
>high tolerances
depends on the manufacture
>All Steel (weight)
You do know this helps to mitigate recoil, right? Also there are lightweight frames
>With the 1911, add all that plus the ammo has heavier recoil,
9mm 191s solve this "issue"
>exposed hammer,
>implying issue
>Practicality should be aware of other weapons available at the time.
You seem to get what practicality is, then you continue on to miss the point. Are Glocks and AKs great weapons? Sure. Is every person capable of an acceptable level of usage with them? No.
Please tell me why I should carry a weapon that i'm shit with because on paper its more "practical"
>>28273404
Yeah, I had one for a little while. It is a pretty decent gun, oddly enough. It looks nice externally, and the internals are about what you expect for the price. I had a couple jams with the one crap mag I had with it, but the other one ran 100%.
>>28273409
9mm is superior. .45 is pretty fun to shoot, though. Just like shooting an older firearm.
>>28270840
A single action revlover is still relevant today as long as you are not in a firefight with 5 or more people. If a gun shoots a caliber that can kill or injure it's always relevant.
The only reason the 1911 is still so popular is because you can get a similar crisp, outstanding trigger on more expensive guns that are even less reliable and are made for competitive shooting in Europe.
>>28273578
I'm a complete 1911 fag but this is a brilliant and bad ass solution.
>>28273589
>a weapon that I'm shit with
If you are incapable of acceptable performance with an AK and a Glock, you've got some big issues to work out through training. They're not hard to do well with at all.
>>28273580
Ahh, I didn't know that!
>>28273589
>old=/=obsolete
only pointing out that maybe in the past 100 years better designs have come out. Just like the 1911, the Luger is also not obsolete, just not as good as modern firearms.
>depends on the manufacture
What brands have low tolerances?
>You do know this helps to mitigate recoil, right?
I'm aware, but it doesn't change a heavy gun riding your hip all day for the .001% chance you might get into a gun fight or someone break in.
>Please tell me why I should carry a weapon that i'm shit with because on paper its more "practical"
It doesn't have to be a Glock; pic related. Just saying there are better options out there. If a 1911 is the end all be all for you, then I'm at least glad you own a gun. I just think the 1911 has a ridiculous fan base that is mostly founded on nostalgia, mystique, history, and aesthetics. Not on the question of "is this the best pistol for my needs".
>>28270859
you're a faggot.
>>28273589
>Taking each individual issue as a separate issue
>not seeing the bigger picture of combined issues compared to modern pistols
>not being able to shoot AK (a gun designed for illiterate conscript peasants) or Glock with ease
>being this retarded
>>28273685
Allow me to rephrase. Why should I use weapons I'm less skilled with in place of weapons I'm more far more skilled with, with negligible drawbacks?
>>28271168
Wood or rubber?
I have been leaning towards wood mallets since i like to feel classy.
>>28273704
>>28274209
>VP9
wew lad
>>28273195
GET BACK TO WRITING DEME
Is a single stack, hella accurate, low-recoil .45 a decent option today? Uhh. Hell yes. I carry my DW specialist every day without issue.
Is it heavy? Yes. I have a good belt. Doesn't bother me.
Is the safety a problem? No. That's what you need with a trigger that glorious.
Is it reliable? Mine is. Maybe not every 1911. But if you have one that is, there's no problem.
Is it outdated? See. I have a problem with this criticism. Outdated isn't a unique characteristic. It's referential to other factors. Like if you said it's outdated because x y and z, whatever. But it's usually just unjustified bullshit from people that can't afford them. If HRT still uses em, I can almost certainly guarantee that they aren't hopelessly outdated.
>Match 1911s are over 2k in ausland
>>28274423
>Match 1911s can go for over 3K in the US
>>28274447
I thought guns were cheap in burgerland
>>28270840
Nope. Belt Fed double barrel 22LR smg is a better deal.
>>28274452
Cheap guns are cheap, you can get nice 1911s for way less than that. Gucci is expensive.
>up to 10k for a 1911
http://www.gunbroker.com/Ed-Brown-1911/Browse.aspx?Keywords=Ed+Brown+1911
People that pay for this must have nothing better to do with their money.
>>28274209
>VP9
Did you not see the video where a tad bit of dirt made it have trouble firing and cycling plus a drop broke its mag release?
>>28270840
its more relevant then ever. Dozens of companies make a 1911 variant in all kinds of calibers from everything to competition shooting, defense, trophy collection and duty use
I would use them for cc or even HD and do sometimes, its one of the most comfortable pistols ive ever used
If youre looking for a single stack, .45 ACP with a manuel safety then you'll like it. If youre not looking for that, and instead would rather have a double stack striker fired .45 then you wont like it
comparing firearms is redundant 99% of the time
>>28271725
how do you get the long hyphen?
>>28273571
Plus they obviously aren't sticklers on price considering how expensive those new 1911's the Marines are using are.
>>28273521
>loading a C96 without locking the bolt back
>>28273481
I agree with you wholly but...
>300 rounds
Come on, man...
>>28273571
Because it's fucking gigantic. 1911s are slim and concealable. It's a capacity compromise to be able to use the same gun for CC and your full-sized pistol role (home defense/habbening, etc.). A better question would be USP. They are slimmer than the FNs and about the same thickness as .45 caliber Glocks. A little taller than a 1911 though.
>>28270840
Yes. It is not 1975. It's reliable. .45 will kill people just fine. And I guarantee you everyone talking shit about capacity carries a 6+1 single stack 9mm for their CCW so fuck them.
GET WHAT YOU LIKE
>>28276209
I don't think that concealment is really much of an issue when your pistol is in a holster anyways. It's not like these marines are trying to conceal their weapons.
1911 is about as relevant in combat as my EDC CZ52.
>>28273517
I replaced my TRP rod with a WC full length single piece
I still use a bushing wrench, but If I really had to I could do it without tools
>>28274209
Still good to see the LH9 up there.
>>28276915
Do you even read bro? Do you just, like, look at the pictures?
>would you trust one for carry or home defense?
Although I would happily tote a nice 1911 like the one in OP by my side as a secondary weapon.
>>28274238
already did faggot were you not awake last night
>>28270896
That's why you buy the CZ82, replace the spring with a wolff 19 pounder, and shoot buffalo bore cast lead +p+ out of it. Love that thing, and it's become my primary carry piece.
>>28277462
>+p+ lead slug loads in poly rifling
Have fun with that
>>28270840
In the words of Travis Haley, it's a lifestyle gun. Basically if you carry a 1911 it's because you like it, not because it's the best option.
>>28271578
There's .380 maks too.
>>28278004
>Basically if you carry a 1911 it's because you like it, not because it's the best option.
I agree. Just bought a 1911 as a carry gun. But I carry my Glock more often. Just like the option of carrying a 1911 every once in a while, just because I like it.
>>28278004
>>28278080
>lifestyle gun
>use it because you like it
Fucking this to be sincere, my relative.
I carry mine for its accuracy and durability, I understand that it has inferior capacity and I dont care
>>28270840
1911 is closest to handguns as AR to rifles.
Yes to all.
As long as .45 is such an effective cartridge and the 1911 reliable as ever, it will not vanish from the earth.
>>28277078
Ya, ya.
>>28270927
You described me perfectly
20 years old califag
Technically had it since 19 since I finished receiver at that age and bought the other parts as a birthday gift to my self
FN FNX-45
>still a .45
>twice the capacity
>ambidextrous
>all the trappings of a modern military handgun
>dem raised sights + suppressor thread
Too bad its significantly more expensive and not exactly ideal for concealment.
>>28270840
If you're unsure get a browning hi power, basiclly a m1911 2.0
>>28276209
>everyone talking shit about capacity carries a 6+1 single stack 9mm for their CCW so fuck them.
Yeah but their CCW weighs half as much and doesn't print at all. A pistol comparable in size to a 1911, modern polymer blah blah holds 15-17 rounds 9mm.
>>28280266
shhh, you will piss off the 1911 queens.
>>28270840
I carry mine everyday, it's what I've always had and trained with so I don't really miss carrying less ammo
>>28270896
>it's not even reliable
Will this meme ever die?
Does any company make modern runs of series 70 1911?
>>28273523
T
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Until there'd a hyper velocity caseless cartridge available in pistol form, or until energy weapons are available, then ANY good, battle proven, centerfire pistols are relevant and good for carrying.
>shoot nigger with 1911
>he laughs at me, proclaiming i should have shot him with a relevant gun
>>28271565
>Moving the goalposts
I don't think you know what that means
>>28273378
Please, tell me how your mak is better than the 1911 I've put 5,000 rounds through with no problems, run IDPA matches with and carry daily. I'm waiting
>>28271373
People that like the design, but want one that is durable and reliable.
>>28273410
>>28273417
>can't imagine spending $2,000
That's not even that much money.
>>28273417
The 1911 is THE most battle proven handgun in the universe.
>>28273704
>Caracal
>SR9
>XD9
>posting the CZ75 twice.
>>28280508
Spending $2000 isn't hard
Spending it on something as clownish as a 1911 is
>>28280266
>doesn't print at all
>caring about printing.
LelKek
Cocoa Beach, FL
You dumb bottom bitch.
I've carried in tight t shirts and shorts, printing for the whole world to see in WHOLE FOODS in Austin.
Hippie vegan pieces of shit all around me.
NO ONE WILL EVER NOTICE. You could put a fucking bright orange arrow pointing to where your gun is on your shirt, and NO ONE WILL EVER NOTICE, NO MATTER WHAT, EVER.
>>28273571
because it doesn't cost $2k apiece so there's less opportunity to skim off contracts
>A relatively large, single stack, .45 acp gun that has an 8 round capacity
Not for carry, concealed or otherwise.
>>28273443
What the hell kind of slide is that on the bottom? My aesthetics are tingling. In a good way.
>>28271224
Series 70 Colt Govt, and never look back.
>>28270927
Bought an RIA 9mm GI. It was shit out of the box but cleaned up to a nice 3 lb trigger and zero malfunctions in the last 4 boxes.
>>28280699
Will that dent the shit out of my brass? I wouldn't mind getting one but I've been looking at a 1911 with lowered ejection port because I heard the unlowered one dents brass and I reload.
>>28280266
>comparable in size to a 1911
That is a load of horse shit and you know it. A single-stack will always be more concealable than a double stack of the same height and length, every day of the week. You're trying to tell me a P226 will print less than a 1911? Are they of "comparable size?" Go fuck yourself. This meme needs to fucking die.
>weighs half as much
I really wish people would stop moaning about ounces. This is your carry pistol, not a bugout bag. The weight difference between all of the pistols relevant to our discussion is negligible. Besides, as stated numerous times above in many different ways, a few more ounces isn't 100% a bad thing anyway.
I like my SR1911 CMD because it's simple. I am just familiar with it, I am happy with the ballistics, I and it eats literally everything I put through it. Would I like something else? I mean sure, but it's just because it's the one I had my hands on the most.
That is just me though, it could have been the same way for a Glock or a Beretta. But mine just happened to be a 1911.
Just pick what you feel most comfortable with.
I owned a Para Ordnance P16-40 Limited. With a lighter recoil spring, frame bumpers, and a shine job on the trigger, it was a great IPSC gun.
BUT, with factory ammo it "slowed down" around 200 rounds, then I would get FTF/FTE around 300 rounds, then it would reliably FTB around 400 rounds in. I'd have to give the pistol a good douching in between stages during long matches just to ensure it ran to the finish without rack and tap nonsense. The factory spring postponed all of the above by another 100 rounds. The gun also refused to reliably feed HST hollowpoints.
I eventually sold the Para, bought a USP Tactical, and haven't ever looked back. One of my best friends bought a Kimber CDP II and it FTE on the very first round out of the box. Most of my friends own (or have owned) 1911's, but if you came across us innawoods, you'd find nothing but fantastic plastic.
I'm sure there are tens of thousands of 1911's in service with perfect records, but none of them are owned by my friends or I.
>>28270840
Relevant how?
I mean it has a following but it isn't a top tier handgun if that's what you're asking
Commander length 1911 is a more comfortable cc than a g19 imo
>>28273277
>SOLD OUT
Try again homo.
>>28273277
You fucked up so bad, I am going to take your tripname in order to try to redeem such a high tier 2hu.
>You pulled such a boner, I have to now take a tripcode to prevent your further deformation.
I hate /k/ sometimes, no wait most of the time.
>>28270876
And combat shotguns, in some form or another.
>>28280198
You forgot about the Polymer frame making recoil worse as the magazine runs dry...
Anyone know how much an M1911A1 US Army model from the 60's is worth?
>>28283531
which one is the best?
>>28283956
The glock
I paid $650 for my $200 1911, and I'm super happy with my purchase.
over 1k rounds now. If I don't adjust the extractor tension at 500rds then I get FTE's now and then. So worth the price. I love this pistol
>>28273517
>1,000 rounds
Is that supposed to be a lot?
Thats a pretty low and weak round count.
I've put over 1,900 through a semi auto mac10 that i built in just 4 months.
>>28271565
Stacking tolerances.
If you get a CZ the choice is between a cheap or high end version.
Both will work, unlike a cheap 1911.
A $2000 sphinx will have a better trigger and accuracy than a Canik but they will usually shoot the ammo you feed them.
A 1911 is more dependent on being fitted together properly, so you don't have a cheap option that works, but something like a wilson combat will, like the sphinx, be a reliable high end pistol with good trigger.
>>28280592
This
Every defense contract everywhere anytime.
>>28283531
>not a single one with a rail
Oh shit nigger what are you doing
>>28270840
im waiting for the 1911s out of cmp ill probably buy 2
>>28283954
Well when the CMP starts selling them they'll probably be about $300
>>28284420
>knowing this little about guns
It's like you're not even trying to bait.
>>28271536
>9x18 will never compare to a .38 super
>not knowing that there is basically no difference between most pistol cartridges for how quickly they will stop someone in most circumstances
>seriously using a semi rimmed pistol cartridge
Have fun with your rimlock when you try to use it in a double stack magazine.
>>28278004
>>+p+ lead slug loads in poly rifling
That's pretty much standard military 9x18 makarov pressure (specs for +p+ technically do not exist), and the cz82 is an overbuilt weapon. No problem with that.
>>28280266.45 is a bigger hole than 9mm, durr hurr, and how many shots do you need to take at the north side of the barn anyhow?
>>28280531
Hail the King!
