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>sanders goes straight baby killing assault weaponz talking points.
>muh gun show loophole
>muh background checks
>we need to ban assault weapons

>shillary
>we need to go after the gun manufacturers
>we need to go after gun sellers
>muh gun lobby

>Gov who the fuck is this guy
>i will ban assault weapons

>announcer lady to governor why are you here
>"there are an estimated 10 to 15 million semi auto assault weapon in the united states, will you enforce confiscation if you ban assault weapons"
15 million produced domestically in the last 3 years probably, definitely ~10mil a year when you account for imports. These people are fucking retards.
>gov get off the stage and let the hilldog/jewturtle debate plz sidesteps the question

FUCK
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Politics belong in /v/
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>>28258431

Vote for corruption or vote for Bernie, those are you choices this year, enjoy your freedom citizen
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>>28258431
>>28258466
At this point I'm going to vote for whoever will bring on the Happening the soonest.
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>>28258431
Democracy is fucking awesome OP.
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>>28258504
So Hillary then.
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>>28258515
T R U M P
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>>28258466
>tfw the Sander's gun rights record is actually pretty rock solid. exceptional for a blueshirt, ok for a redshirt
>mfw he has to separate himself from this specific issue while holding his voting record as his shining achievement on all others.
>Not sure if I want to feel the Bern, but at least he'd IRL do nothing like our sitting lame duck
>tfw this election is the republicans to win if they could even find someone as hated as McCain or Romney instead of the current field of everyone we hated even more in the last two elections and the unstumpable Trump.

>>28258504
>pic related

>>28258515
>not wanting to follow God Emperor TRUMP into battle during the second mexican american war.
>doesn't want to watch the world burn as we get into a land war in asia
I wonder if Putin and Trump will become besties like Dubya did. Great northern alliance when.
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>>28258569
>tfw the Sander's gun rights record is actually pretty rock solid. exceptional for a blueshirt, ok for a redshirt
doesn't matter, considering what he's been spewing out of his mouth this entire year
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>>28258515
a vote for trump is a vote for chaos
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>>28258569
>I wonder if Putin and Trump will become besties like Dubya did. Great northern alliance when.
God I only hope so, putin is so sad when he has to deal with obama
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>>28258622
What about Rand, "A hero dunked by his homeland." Paul?
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>>28258533
You are joking right? He is the only of that isn
t bought to a 100%. He might be a idiot but at least its not 100% certain that he is bought.

Every one else is going to do exactly like they are told by their handlers. All these professional career politicians have some kind of skeleton in the closet or else they wouldn't be allowed to have the positions that they have.

Want to be president? Better let some one video tape you while you rape a pig, or worse.

Its no secret that a lot of these people go tot he same fraternity etc.
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>>28258652
*denied by
My phones autocorect is such a boner kill/panty drier.
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melon fucking labia

try it fagits
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>>28258569
Why do you think he wouldn't vote with the Democrats the first time a tragedy happens? Or nominate an anti-rights justice to SCOTUS and wreck the lawsuit-to-regain-rights path we've got going?
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>>28258652
good choice
not as good as ron
he'll never win the nomination
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>>28258622
>a vote for trump is a vote for chaos
You are going to get chaos either way bud. The shit you see unfolding now where all planed before Trump was ever born.

But Trump is the only candidate (that can win) that isn't 100% bought so if he gets office he might slow things down a bit and maybe unfuck things with Russia.
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>>28258646
>Putin

Does he make that face all the goddamn time or what?
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>>28258691
>But Trump is the only candidate (that can win) that isn't 100% bought so if he gets office...
He'll be assassinated.
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>>28258673
>the democrats ever holding the house and senate with a supermajority
>a communist who champions income inequality and bringing corporations in check will disarm the proletariat in direct violation of marxist ideals.

I feel like he won't try to do an executive order and not try to push new legislation through. He toes the party line, but never crosses it.

at least he doesn't want to make it legal to sue gun manufacturers for making guns like hilldog ;_;
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>>28258504
Trump
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>>28258504
Hillary to be honest then. Rather it be war or funz ban.
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>>28258691
you mistake me sir, i am down for the chaos.
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>>28258666
Nice trips, Hail Satan. All politicians are full of shit, but Bern and Rand I think are the least full of it. They both defy their parties, especially Rand, and kinda just say what they want no matter what the establishment says. Bernie less so lately, but still. I'd love to see them debate each other; Socialism vs. Libertarianism.
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>>28258685
Of course not, but it's nice that he gets his views out there. I wouldn't say not as good as Ron, though. Ron, while even more libertarian, was straight up unrealistic.
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>>28258712
He's already been socially and politically assassinated.
Hell, he's become a fucking joke and everyone hates him because of his policies on immigration.
It's too late to save Trump. All you guys can do now is choose what kind of fuckery you'd like.
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>>28258652
I for one stand with rand "the man with the plan to save the land" paul.
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>>28258712
>He'll be assassinated.
Perhaps.
It depends on how much he is willing to go along with.
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>ASSAULT COMBAT WEAPONS
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>>28258622
A vote for chaos you say?
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>>28258746
>He's already been socially and politically assassinated.

Hardly, guy is rolling strong still. The best part is in most states the runner up is Cruz. While Cruz isn't near as anti-establishment as most of his followers believe I do think he'd be much better than any other choice.
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I'm not American, so I don't really follow American elections, but what exactly is Trump's stance on the gun debate?
Also, does anyone here actually agree with his points on immigration (Not against them, just a little to extreme in my opinion)?
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At what point do fertilizer trucks happen to be parked in close proximity to government buildings?
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>>28258746
>He's already been socially and politically assassinated.
Well people don't give a shit about the media anymore. People have started to see through eh charades.
>Hell, he's become a fucking joke and everyone hates him because of his policies on immigration.
He only got more popular because of that. Getting half a million of severely retarded and brainwashed tea drinking serfs to sign a petition to deny you access to their 1984 police state is hardly a problem.
>It's too late to save Trump. All you guys can do now is choose what kind of fuckery you'd like.
Perhaps.
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>>28258685
Never, but I'd he secures a seat as Secretary of State from Trump if he wins, then I think he could win the '20 nomination. Damn guy could debate, but no one would give the man time. Poor him.
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>>28258761
Maybe his reputation isn't ruined in the states, but internationally it's awful. Hell, didn't the Pope denounce Trump?
I'm just saying that if he does get elected, prepare to be hated even more than during the invasion of Iraq.
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>>28258785
Hes totally progun now for the election and public reactionary republicans but was apparently very vocally antigun in the past.
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>>28258808
we were hated during the invasion of iraq?
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>>28258431
Daily reminder Webb is most based
>Served as an officer in Vietnam
>killed several gooks with a claymore and a 1911 in a raid on a bunker while getting injured by a grenade
>Secretary of the Navy under Reagan
>wrote "Rules of Engagement"
>senator of Virginia
>all around badass
If he got the attention he deserves, he would be the next Teddy Roosevelt
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>>28258785
In the past he's said things like supporting banning assault weapons

At current, his base seems to think him more SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

I'm an open border kind of person. This stuff about walls and deporting millions just kind of seems like nonsense to me. Just stop giving handouts and the free riders will go away, leaving the ones who actually work and contribute to society be performing the jobs our over-coddled populace refuses to do.
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>>28258785
I agree with his immigration policies. I have nothing against immigrants or foreigners. America was built on foreigners. But I think you should prove you're worth something before you can come here. If you're not even willing to fill out paperwork and learn minimal English, why should taxpayers pay for you to live in a country you don't even respect?
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>>28258785
not to go /pol/ on this staunchly /k/ related thread, but unchecked immigration is only supported by the dems because they think mexicans will vote blue in the same LBJ "I'll have those niggers voting democrat for 100 years" way blacks historically do. Once they realize south america is fiercely socially conservative and devoted catholic the floodgates will shut faster than Hillary's clenching asshole during the Clinton Impeachment proceedings.
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>>28258833
IIRC a lot of illegal immigrants came here on a work visa, applied for citizenship, and are now staying for the 5-10 years it takes a citizenship application to get processed. I'm fine with stopping illegal immigration, but it doesn't make sense to expect someone to change countries 3 times in a decade out of a sense of civic duty.
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>>28258431
But we need our free stuff and our fag porn and our weed, so let's give up our Constitutional birthrights and our property because there's no such thing as liberty or license. Just feelz.

Fuck.
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>>28258785
No one knows really. Trump has held every stance on every subject over the years.

He is on an pretty strong right wing, pro-gun, anti-illegal immigration stance during this presidential run. Either all the past stuff was just him trying to PC to mantain relationships in the business world or he is now being massive deceptive.

My thoughts on him are this. He's probably pretty pro-big government and relatively anti-gun. That said he sees what he needs to say to get elected and is playing to the base and hard. Here's where it gets weird and my personal opinion comes to play. I think the guy is sooo full of himself that even if he doesn't believe in gun rights or limiting immigration, if he thinks repealing NFA and executing illegals with baseball bats will make him go down in history as the best president ever then that is what he'll do. I think he is so ego driven that what ever the "silent majority" wants him to do, hel'll do just to get massively high approval ratings. That included dismantling establishment and going after the banks/jews/big donors.
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>>28258825
He dropped out after the first debate, because he realized his party doesn't exist as such anymore. Every liberal I talked to about him said he would make a great Republican.
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>>28258788
As I've said here >>28258808 his reputation internationally is shit.
You Americans may not really listen to the media (good on you), but the rest of us sure do.
His stances on immigration may be stronger, but don't expect to get anywhere on the international scene with him elected.
Personally, I'd like for you guys to come annex us, so we don't have to deal with Trudeau. Plus, if Trump gets elected, all the immigrants are probably going to come to us.
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>>28258431
All I know is I'm not voting for Trump. The Democrats would literally have to pick Clone Hitler as their candidate for me to vote for Trump.
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>>28258808
if it was truly ruined you fucks would stop moving here. Every year we have more people applying to live here than other country on earth. In short, fuck off.
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>>28258756
Kombat Salt Weapons
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>>28258859
and yet he was too much left for the republicans when he was a member of their party?
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>>28258878
I'm Canadian
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>>28258821
Yes, killing and maiming over a million muslims and fucking up their country so much that millions of more chose to leave and go to Europe was impopular.

>>28258808
Why would the US be more hated if the Trump became king? The only people who hate him in Europe are retarded leftist that still believe Obama is all about change, free medicare and peace.

Because anyone who is black and got the nobel peace price is automatically good.

Not even joking. They seriously think ww3 will happen as soon as Trumps enters office. They don't even care that ww3 has all ready been started by the same people who controlled the US the last decades and that Trump has been saying that the US should stop fucking so much with Russias shit.

Just put a new face on it (Obama) and these retards are willing to go along with anything.
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>>28258864
>implying the world is in a position to deny us
I'm just waiting for the collective nonimportant vassal country anal clench when God Emperor Trump the Unstumpable tells someone like merkel to go fuck themselves at a televised summit.

>>28258825
if only
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>>28258821
Isn't that what made Bush so unpopular, and one of the sparks for all this anti-American shit going on?
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>>28258890
sorry, thanks for keeping us warm this year. You are doing good. A bit nippy this weekend though, need to snug the hat up a bit.
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>>28258886
Such is life, when you don't march to the drumbeat of the party.
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>>28258878
We're the third biggest country on earth, and the two bigger ones are shitholes. Of course we have more applications than anyone else. I don't think we have the most applications per capita.

>>28258871
desu I'd vote Sanders before Trump. At least Sanders is nominally honest.

>>28258896
>Yes, killing and maiming over a million muslims and fucking up their country so much that millions of more chose to leave and go to Europe was impopular.
I didn't notice.

>>28258890
<3
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>>28258864
>his reputation internationally is shit.
His reputation with international leaders you mean?

Those same leaders that keep selling out their own countries to "refugees" you mean?
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>>28258871
In fairness, Hillary could be the reincarnation of Hitler.
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>>28258504

Kris Krispy said he'd enforce a no-fly zone in Syria and shoot down Russian airplanes that violate it, but he has a 0% chance of becoming president.
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>>28258825

He should have ran as a republican, the dude's a DINO.
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>>28258914
>We're the third biggest country on earth, and the two bigger ones are shitholes. Of course we have more applications than anyone else. I don't think we have the most applications per capita.

Right of Wiki we have nearly 20% of the world's immigrants. That isn't including illegals, and isn't including the millions trying but that don't get picked for green cards in the lotteries every year.

This despite having two massive oceans on either side of us.
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>>28258808
do other nations get electoral votes these days?
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>>28258936
I just want that fat fuck to go one debate without muh 9/11
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>>28258886
>can't abide by the statist, constitution shredding acts of the left
>doesn't foam at the mouth over muh jeebuz and fag marriage making the baby jesus cry
>this makes him unelectable
I came here to rage, not to feel
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>>28258948
In a race between Hilary Clinton and Trump, he could probably make a dent as an Independent. Maybe not carry a state, but maybe something Nader or Perot level.
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>>28258952
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_immigrant_population
According to this we're like #30 for the relative size of our immigrant population
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Daily fucking reminder that mag caps and assualt weapons bans means that most guns produced after 1895 would be banned. 10+ round magazines, both detatchable and tubular go back to the early 1700's, and guns in my collection such as my Winchester Model 62 in .22 short or my Marlin Model 60 would fall under mag caps ot semi-automatic bans.

If anybody on here even thinks about voting democrat, shame on you.
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>>28258960

It's literally impossible.
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>an attempt at mass confiscation of firearms on U.S soil

Jesus Christ, that would take a military action that will make the siege of Fallujah look like a sunday drive.

Part of me wishes they would try a more direct approach instead of this "lets put people on government managed no fly lists with no oversight and then take away rights from people on said lists."
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>>28258974
no way would he get near Perot Level.
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>>28258975
> United Kingdom 7,824,131

My....god
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I atleast know that my state would just say "go fuck yourself" to the feds if any new laws were passed.
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>>28258896
A lot of those people (or claim to be those people) are world leaders (Eurocvcks and our Glorious Leader Justin Trudeau). And as I said before, Pope Francis even denounced him (I doubt the Vatican even has that much influence anymore, but a politician being insulted by the Pope never looks good).
I like Trump because he's not (as) likely to have been bought out, and is relatively more pro-gun, but don't forget that there are still a lot of nations and people who either think that way or just agree so they can stay safe.
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>>28258964
>tfw someone else feels along with me
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>>28258959
I'm just saying that it seems like a good discussion on how a country's world image would be with a certain leader I'm charge.
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>>28258903
If Trump actually does tell off Merkel, I will fucking cream.
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I really feel a renewal of the
Assult Weapons Ban is imminent. Unless a Republican wins. But they cannot stop fighting
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>>28258431
It's fine, man. Fuckers can't touch us. Join NRA and pay your dues. Remember that gun laws are more permissive than they've been in recent history and these people are shilling for votes.
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>>28258864
>his reputation internationally is shit.
Is it? I don't think you have noticed but like 1/5 of the whole western world is absolutely fed up with the bullshit the mainstream media is pushing and if they hate on Trump those people will just love him even more. People are finally starting to wake up to lies and if the media says something these people think the exact opposite is true and the sad thing is that the people who think everything is a lie is more right then the people who think everything is true.

Who the fuck cares if his reputation among other world leaders are fucked? Fucking Assad has higher approval rating then any European leaders can ever dream of. The population basically hate their elected leaders more then their elected leaders hates Trump.

>You Americans may not really listen to the media (good on you),
Not even american.

>but the rest of us sure do.
Only brainwashed idiots still listen to the media.

>His stances on immigration may be stronger, but don't expect to get anywhere on the international scene with him elected.
Oh really? I guess you haven't noticed by the ''immigrants'' are fucking over Europe big time right now. Everything Trump has said about it is basically correct and only brainwashed leftist retards that swallow EVERYTHING the media tells them hates him.
Every one else either support him or doesn't give a shit.

Every one else that actually lives in Reality agrees with him.
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>>28258886
He left the party because of Dubya. He served under Reagan.
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>>28259041
Republicans own the Senate.

Where exactly do you think laws come from?
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>>28258569
>Gun rights rock solid
Yeah, for anti.
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>>28258918
International leaders AND brainwashed masses.
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>>28258975
Look at the countries above it, Bahrain? Oman? Saudi Arabia? Fuck off oil workers.

Here is a 2010 stat, 15 Million people were trying to immigrate to the US in just that one year. http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704804504575606580971555998

I doubt so many people are trying to get into any other country on earth.
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>>28258987
No shit right? Shit or get off the pot.
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>>28258987
>mfw turbofallujah in every major city in america
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>>28258431

You fuckers ready for 2016?
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>>28259022
"if you can't be liked and feared, be feared." -Niccolo Machiavelli

you said it yourself that "the world" hates us cuz hurr war on terror (not sure how Yurocucks feel about the nice peaceful muslims now amirite). 8 years of a wet blanket chocolate PC president haven't stopped your memeposting about "the evil empire" so it looks like the white house is going to end up painted gold and have blackjack tables along the tour. We don't need you to like trump or us, just understand who swings the biggest dick.
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>>28259056
thats actually bad news, most terrible gun legislation comes from republicans. When dems try to pass it republicans puff up and shut it down.
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>>28259046
I may just be cynical, but I just believe that a lot of the public buys into their bullshit when they say 'not all muslims' or that 'we need to be more tolerant and accepting'.
Also, my Canadian blood forces me to apologize if my posts have been shitting up this thread.
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>>28259056
executive orders and the rulings of whatever judge replaces the next supreme court justice to kick the bucket ;^)
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>>28259094

>most terrible gun legislation comes from republican

wot?
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Oh man, O'Malley cracks me up.

>BAN ASSAULT GUNS CUZ THEYRE SCARY BUT DONT REALLY COMMIT CRIME OR ARE RARELY USED IN MASS SHOOTINGS
>WE CANNOT GIVE UP OUR RIGHTS BECAUSE OF FEAR

Fuck off you cunt, I can't believe my mother and father voted for this dipshit.
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>>28259056
>>28259094
Whos husband signed the last AWB?
Oh right. Bill Clinton. And I believe the republucants were in the majority
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>>28259092
You do have a good point. I don't see anyone willing to risk pissing off the US.
Oh well, we'll just keep getting culturally enriched while you guys live well-defended lives.
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>>28259113
You are right. Asault weapons only make up 15% of mass shootings.
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>>28259073
Switzerland, Canada, Sweden, Ireland, Estonia. Absolute numbers don't tell much m8.
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>>28259092
>8 years of a wet blanket chocolate PC president haven't stopped your memeposting about "the evil empire"

Maybe because having a dindu president that gets the nobel peace price didn't actually result in less drone strikes or less foreign intervention.

Even thought the dindu got a peace price you guys still managed to Libya in to failed state ripe with crazy jihadist and human traffickers and you are still doing your best to turn destroy Syria for some reason.

Maybe you should just go the fuck home and stop messing with the fucking arabs all ready? Things where fine here before millions of them left their warn torn countries.
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>>28259046
That picture scares the shit out of me.
I have a deep seeded feeling that isis is working on getting a jihadi jason borne type killer into the country. They are already attacking europe. And future plans are likely being planned.
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>>28258759
Cultist-chan 2016
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>>28258652
No we already have one
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>>28259153
case and point: the post.

Enjoying that american internet infrastructure m8? You need to be reminded that allied nations have parity, vassal states require protection.
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>>28259111
Cant buy an automatic SCAR-H? Thank Reagan. Couldn't buy scury 'salt weapns brand new for a decade? Thank 38 republicans, remarkably almost enough to the number to pass the ban. Shocking right? Totally a coincidence. Oh you want a chinese AK? Thank George H. Bush, a republican.

Obama has actually done more for gun rights than the last 3 republican presidents, and he hasn't done much, obviously.
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>>28259167
Every success they score will stress the need (1) to reassure all other Muslims that we don't hold them responsible, and (2) for more effective common sense gun control. That way you get more newly-minted Democrats *and* kick predominantly conservative gun owners in the nuts *and* disarm the general population by bits and degrees. It's a win-win-win.
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>>28259187
Dubya didnt sign the Awb renewal. So you need to give him that
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>>28259147
they tell a lot, the conversation is how may people are trying to get into a country, not how many are allowed. How many are trying is a comment on how the world population truly feels about it. Numbers actually allowed factors a sustainability quota derived from size and population. At least that's my thoughts.

Seriously over 15 million trying to immigrate to Estonia?
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>>28259153
>kept you from speaking german
>kept you from speaking russian
>now we need to keep you from speaking arabic
a preemptive "you're welcome" from us to you for when you're saved from your lax immigration laws and nonexistant military by your stalwart protector The United States of America.
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>>28259167
They are all ready inside.

>>28259182
How about you stay the fuck out of other countries business and then then stay the fuck away from yours?

The world would be fine if you guys stopped fucking with it all the time. If you guys hadn't fucked over Iraq Saddam would still be in charge and the jihadist would still be blowing up in THEIR countries.
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>>28259198
I cant tell if you are jokin, or ragging on me. Im serious, these isis fighters are not playing games. They arnt going to surrender or make peace. They want to kill themselves so they can be martyrs.
Im 100% awake. Im not so sure about the rest of america.
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>>28259217
Well you guys are doing a hell of a good job with that last one, right?
Maybe things will get better for Europe if Trump gets elected, but I doubt anyone is willing to do Battle of Berlin 2: Ode to Fallujah.
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>>28259201
O still has him beat by two.

O allowed carry in National Forest
Has given the OK for CMP to sell m1911 pistols
Allowed base commanders to permit carry by military personnel on base

Sure he has done antigun things and he is by no means pro-gun and would cry tears of joy if all were banned but on a list of pro positives he's done more than H or dubya. Reagan is a toss up.
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>>28258431
>democrat being elected basically guarantees losing salt guns
>media is so against every republican there is no fucking way they'll win because 70% of americans are too retarded to see their bullshit
Time to stock up before 2017 boys.
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>>28258431
>there are people in this thread who would legitimately vote for someone who has blatantly said he would instate another Assault Weapons Ban than A republican with 30% lead who said he would give them more freedom and open up trade with Russia again simply because they believe what the liberal news media tells them

what a time to be alive
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>>28259234
meet the 2% gdp to military spending requirement in NATO and we'll talk.
>thats how many messes countries like yours couldn't handle since 1948
>america plz help!
>omg america why are you always intervening baka!
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>>28259167
>>28259246

Most jihadists are remarkably incompetent and picked up by domestic services, frankly the most we have to worry about are lone wolves, muslim or some other crazy thing and those are impossible to actually stop so CC and have situational awareness, I guess. Not like it'll really happen, I mean most have 'sympathies' but almost never act so the chances of being near one mass shooting, much less a mass uprising are near zero.

>>28259257
He ran out of political capital with his Health Care initiates and is pretty much bound by Republican controlled Congress and Senate until he lame ducks out of there.

>>28259271
The pres is toothless if he doesn't have a majority backing him, see above.
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>>28259217
>>kept you from speaking german
I am all ready speaking a germanic language.
>kept you from speaking russian
No, the nazis kept us from speaking russian. Even thought the US funded the fucking bolshevik scum germany still managed to save western Europe from the communist plague.

To bad the bongs and the burgers stabbed them in the back and then left eastern europe to rot under the yoke of communism.

>>now we need to keep you from speaking arabic
The arabs are only a problem because you fucking retarded fucked up their countries.

Pic related. Its an illustration of US foreign policy the last 130 years.
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>>28259287
>He ran out of political capital with his Health Care initiates and is pretty much bound by Republican controlled Congress and Senate until he lame ducks out of there.

Absolutely but to think any republican president in recent memory has actually been "pro-gun" is a fucking joke.
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>>28259279

>muh 2%
>muh military
>muhh solo'ed evil guy with nose hair

Typical burgertard
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>>28259290
>The arabs are only a problem because you fucking retarded fucked up their countries.

Funny I don't recall the US creating artifical borders and carving out a chunk for the Jews setting off a massive shit storm.

Fuck off. You guys fucked the world more than the US could ever dream of doing. How is Africa turning out?
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>>28259287
Have you not heard of all the attacks?
Do you think you are safe? Do you not understand that illegals are flooding across the southern boarder.
You have no fucking clue whos coming across the border. Wake the fuck up
>source
Me, i live in Tx and witness all the illegals. Everyday
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Bernie lost my vote when he started saying we should reimport deported illegals.

That said he has to pander to a bunch of cunts, he's much closer to a real communist/socialist platform instead of the DNC which is a bizarre combination of feminism, gayism, niggerism, immigrantionism and capitalism/corporatism.

Basically the DNC has turned into "fuck straight white americans". Instead of advocating for the actual poor.

It's a joke.

My vote goes to god emperor trump now, I hope he pisses off the eurocucks.
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>>28259041

Who is this whore?
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>>28259326
>Fuck off. You guys fucked the world more than the US could ever dream of doing.
You seem to have me confused with pic related.
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>>28259290
>mfw you think that .gif as a bad thing
I'm literally stealing it for the next time I need to post the machiavelli quote.
>he said, as he posts in an american image board hosted on american servers using american internet infrastructure in a thread about american politics and american gun rights.
does it sting knowing I bought a gun you'll never be allowed to hold today? it's sitting next to all the other guns you'll never hold, much less own.
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>>28259346
Idk, just some random chick
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>>28259206
We have more murders than Honduras, bro. Is murder more of a problem here than Honduras?
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>>28259341
Why is being close to a gommunist/socialist platform a good thing?
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>>28259365
I know what you are getting at but you are misunderstanding the conversation at hand.

Which country do more people try to immigrate to than any other? The answer to that question is independent of size. People don't try to immigrate to China or Russian in massive numbers, them trying to immigrate to the US by the millions has nothing to do with the size of the US.

Number of immigrants actually allowed in as perscentage of the population is a separate conversation entirely.
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>>28259341

I dropped DNC when Webb dropped out.
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>>28259357
>I'm literally stealing it for the next time I need to post the machiavelli quote.
lol, ameritards thinking that having the largest military in the world (and debt, for some reason) and using it to constantly destabilize third world countries is actually something to brag about.

You killed, maimed and displaced a couple of million goat farmers. Big whoop, nobody ever managed to do that before.

>does it sting knowing I bought a gun you'll never be allowed to hold today?
And what gun would that be?

>it's sitting next to all the other guns you'll never hold
I am going to have a good chuckle when the police kicks down your door and shoots your dog and kills you.

What? You think your ass is safe just because its fine now? They are coming for you to, you fucking ignorant piece of shit.
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>>28259390
I'm sure you'd find a very similar number if you compared the US to the EU, which is the only other prosperous area of a comparable size.
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>>28259399
You must be a aussie fag
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>>28259399

Enjoy being culturally enriched you chuckle fuck.
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>>28259328
The attacks constitute a minority and I never said I was for illegal immigration, the cartels don't acknowledge borders and illegal immigration is only a symptom of a larger problem that building a Wall won't fix.
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>>28259399
Let's not insult the Americans. Can't we all just work together against our socialist overlords?
I'm thinking that we help them out, they help us out
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>>28259399
>f....f....fuck u america ;_;
>>28259415
makes sense. shitcunt probably is mad they're going to ban the Alder shotgun and needs somewhere to vent.

>>28259419
I am going to have a good chuckle when the abbos kick down >>28259399s door and shoots >>28259399 dog and rapes his wife
>What? You think your ass is safe just because its fine now? They are coming for you to, you fucking ignorant piece of shit.
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>>28259426

There is literally nothing wrong with socialist overlords.
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>>28258569
>pretty rock solid
>ok for a redshirt
You are mistaken or a liar.
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>>28259426
I like you.
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>>28259446
>literally nothing wrong with giving people shit for "free"
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>>28259419
Yeah, thanks a lot for making all the arabs run this way you shithead.

You are being culturally enriched. You know that right? And when america is done their won't be any white countries left to because all the NATIVE white countries are being fucking destroyed right now.

You must be either jew or asian because no white person would ever enjoy seeing a other white nation be destroyed.

>>28259426
>Let's not insult the Americans.
I am only insulting retards.
>Can't we all just work together against our socialist overlords?
Apparently not. These retards seems to think its more fun to laugh while their forefathers homelands are being overrun by arabs and africans.

>I'm thinking that we help them out
They are going to need it but they seem to be more interesting in droning arabs and eating burgers so what can you do?
>they help us out
How has the US helped us out? They have created this whole mess by destabilizing massive parts of the middle east and then creating ISIS.

Sooner or later the shit is going to come their way and then they won't be laughing anymore.
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>>28259423
>the cartels don't acknowledge borders and illegal immigration is only a symptom of a larger problem that building a Wall won't fix.

The cartels ignore the borders because there are no borders. If you had a wall + some seismic instruments to check for tunnels you wouldn't have any problems at all.
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>>28259490
I kinda like you too, senpai ;^)
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>>28259504
Well then it seems we'll have to start on Outer Heaven real soon
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>>28259553
Looks that way.
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>>28259514
>wall
Patrolled by whom? That would stretch the military rather thin and Homeland Security are incompetent buffoons. Just supplying the guards would be a logistical nightmare
>seismic instruments
>mapping and being maintained over 1,954 miles of mostly desert, many of which is systemically active
Decriminalize drugs and actually start treating people and actually hit where the cartels will feel it.
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>>28258515
>voting for the person who is basically the same president as the last last four
>voting for the person who is literally the same president as one of those four
>voting for the status quo
Yeah a vote for Hillary is a vote for no happening, sorry to say. Bernie and Trump are our only two hopes, and frankly Trump is probably a Clinton shill anyway.
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>>28259609
How would Trump be a Clinton shill?
Just a scapegoat to make Hillary look good in comparison?
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>>28259585
>decriminalize drugs
Yeah brah, we should totally piss the cartels off to the point they start bombing entire drug operations in retaliation for trying to fuck their business.
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>>28259585
we have these amazing things called cameras anon, but having a doublewall filled with razorwire with infrared camera bubbles to alert border security to come prevent a border incursion is boring.
>BUILDWALL
>build second wall 30 feet behind first wall
>inside is sheer concrete with sloped walls to prevent climbing
>fill inside of wall with unwanted fighting pitbulls
>establish breeding population
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>>28259585
>Patrolled by whom?
Cameras, drones, sensors, volunteers, national guards.
And all the other people that guard your borders right now.

>That would stretch the military rather thin
Yeah, right.

>and Homeland Security are incompetent buffoons.
Doesn't matter when you got a fucking wall.

>Just supplying the guards would be a logistical nightmare
Is this a joke? You can feed hundreds of thousands of soldiers abroad but you get some fucking good to a couple of thousand people that are manning a wall?

>>mapping and being maintained over 1,954 miles of mostly desert, many of which is systemically active
You make this sound complicated, expensive and advanced.
Do you fucking realize how ridiculous the US military budget is? A 30 feet 2000 mile long concrete wall would be nothing in comparison.

Oh yeah and about the sensors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Igloo_White
>Decriminalize drugs and actually start treating people and actually hit where the cartels will feel it.
Hey i hate the whole world of drugs shit but the wall isn't just about drugs.
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>>28259625
The (conspiracy) theory is that he's friends with the Clintons and that there was a gentleman's agreement between them that he would run as a republican, spew whatever he had to to get the nom, and then Clinton obviously wins.

I don't know that I believe it in actuality, but it's definitely one of the more believable tinfoil theories I've heard.
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>>28259652
Are they going to steal the Hope Diamond after the election or some shit?
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>>28259627
>being scared of cartels
>on US soil
>when US corporate interests become invested in 'lol weed/ heroin, dude' clinics
>after citizens supported change in policy
I wish a nigga fucking would.
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>>28259729
>citizens supporting it and corporations investing in it means nobody will fuck with it
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>28259762
I'm not saying they won't try to fuck with it but it would be a desperation move that will get a country known for clumsily fucking with other countries and burning things down. they bomb a couple clinics, then what? this is supposed to scare people into voting retarded laws back in becasue 'Oh no [insert cartel name here] is very cross with us, lets roll over.'?
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>>28258825

Jim "annihilating the spook the gook" webb

Jim "I almost punched george bush in the pie hole" webb

Jim "vietnam fucking shits" webb

How can one man be so based, I'll write in for him.

>pic semi related is the second most based man in existence
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>>28259504
So it's America's fault you decided to let them into your country? And still are?

America's caused a lot of unnecessary shit but the fact that your leaders suck Arab dick and brag about the taste isn't one of them.
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>>28259867
Are you talking about Jim "pounding vagina from french indochina" Webb?
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>>28259873
>So it's America's fault you decided to let them into your country?
No, its America's fault that they decided to leave their own countries.
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>>28259932

Yeah Jim "take a gook life then take a gook wife" Webb.
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>>28259932

Yeah I mean jim "putting zipper heads in their death beds" webb.
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>>28258569
GOD EMPEROR
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>>28258652
>>28259175

Both being blown out by Cruz Missile.

>Gave us Heller v DC
>Enjoys cooking bacon on his AR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaZGaJrd3x8
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Is there actually a gunshow loophole?
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>>28260088
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>>28260107
I want to know how to explain it to other people
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>>28260088
no. atleast not in shit states like california. you still have to fill out a 4473.
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>>28259867
Jim "can't cu.ck the claymore" Webb
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>>28259867
You mean Jim "Balls Deep in Bush out in the Bush" Webb?

Jim "Elope with A Slope" Webb?

Jim "Smoke some Grass Then Smoke Your Ass" Webb?
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>>28260088
Many (if not most) gun shows still require checks for liability reasons.
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>>28260163
lmaoooo
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>>28260135
Cuck isn't filtered any more.
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>>28260115
"imagine if to give your old cellphone to your kid the federal government forced you to go to a licensed phone store and pay an arbitrary $15-50 per phone fee to make sure your kid was responsible enough to own a phone. You, the original purchaser of the phone already went through this process when you bought your phone at a phone store. You know your kid is responsible and you'd never sell your phone to a drug dealer to use as a burner, and that if you were that kind of person you'd ignore the government mandate and sell your phone anyway without going through this overcomplex, expensive, and punitive process."
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>>28258466
>>28258569

kek. Enjoy shitty protectionist trade union economic policies and populist progressive BS social policies. And yes, the Bern will come for your fucking guns.
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>>28259942
part of the reason why they are leaving their countries is because they know you will let them in
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>>28260314
So do we, now. Chocolate Nixon's refugee resettlement programs for both Latin America and the Middle East -- including the extra 10,000 Syrians -- are fully funded in this next year's budget. Oh, and they quadrupled the H2 temporary visa work program. The Stupid Party gave the fucking bastard everything.

We are not being governed, folks. We are being ruled. We are most of the way towards not being able to vote our way out of it any more. You have a window of opportunity to stock up on everything related to the shooting sports between now and Hillary's nomination. I hope all of you -- /pol/tards and faggots, breeders and neckbeards -- make the best possible use of it.
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>>28259153
I'm a right-leaning American and I unironically love this image.
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>>28258431
ausfag here why would you even entertain voting for either of hillary or bernie

they want to take away your rights just vote for trump

he wants to kick out all the illegals and open trade with russia

what the fuck is wrong with you idiots?
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>>28258466
>Vote for corruption or vote for Bernie

Not Trump?
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>>28260443
>he wants to kick out all the illegals
but dats mean tho
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>>28260404
pretty sure there's another iraq war one thats nothing but the twin towers and us blowing up shit in sandland
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>>28259399
We've done well in all the world wars
2-0 if I remember right
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>>28260545
>>28259153
Isn't there one with both of them, facing each other?
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>>28258509
>posting the censored JIDF version

Cuck as fuck
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>>28258825
Only democrat this race I'd vote over trump, and I'm a damn liberal
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>>28258746
Yeah fucking right, all of my coworkers were on the fence until he started pushing hard on Mexicants and Mudslimes

Now they're all 100% committed to Trump, although not many voted in the last couple elections

I'll be 19 then, so my first presidential vote will be for the Trump
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>>28260534
>>28259275


no but i just cant believe there are people in this thread that will vote democrat your on the fucking weapons board for gods sake they want to take away weapons

they hate freedom
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>>28260763
But the Rethuglicans are moar evil because they don't like fags and weed and stuff. Whether or not somebody approves of your lifestyle is way more important than having a constitutional republic. Didn't you get the memo?
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>>28260804
>>28260804
damn that pisses me off

fags can still be fags its not illegal, weed is easy to get and probably cheaper illegal than it is legal

but every totalitarian leader has always looked to take away the common mans ability to arm himself
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>>28260804
>constitutional republic

Not for long (thankfully).
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>>28260804
>Constitutional republic
that shit's already dead. No amount of voting will return it. We live under a modern triumvirate, now we just wait for Caesar and Pompey to duke it out.
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>>28258431
Daily reminder to vote for GARY MOTHERFUCKIN' JOHNSON
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>>28258964
>>28259010
Don't you know?
Try to appeal to everyone, and nobody will vote for you.
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Anyone got a link to video with the confiscation bit? Feels like something we ought to spread to the winds.
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>>28260962
He didn't he laid out policy and between Bernie and Hillary he was drowned out. In one of the debates he was even asked more or less 'Does anyone even know about you?'
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I don't even know who to vote for. I hate all of these motherfuckers.
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>>28262251
Stop paying taxes
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>>28258466
Gtfo
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>>28258466
>I'd prefer dying in a food line than admitting I was wrong
epic
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>>28258466
Why don't you guys want to vote for Sanders so you can finally burn the whole wretched mess down and build it back up again?
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>>28260945
I have before and theres a good chance i will this time
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>>28258825
Trump/Webb 2016
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>Trump/Webb 2016
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>>28258431

why is he firing into the air what a dick head
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>>28259290
>The arabs are only a problem because you fucking retarded fucked up their countries.

That'd explain why the Moslem Brotherhood was actively sabotaging the British colonial government in Egypt in the mid-thirties and why the instigator of the military coup in Iraq - which led to the entire Iraq theater in WWII - cited the need to "expel the jews" as a reason to throw in with the Axis and attack English forces. Oh, yeah, guess what group that guy was a member of?

>To bad the bongs and the burgers stabbed them in the back and then left eastern europe to rot under the yoke of communism.

So first its our fault for not fighting your wars for you, then you get pissed if we dare fight your wars for you anywhere else. What a bunch of selfish cunts. Christ, I hate you bastards.
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>>28262522
Engaging Stuka dive bombers
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You're all stupid if you think your vote matters, but then again americans elected obummer and now probably trump or shillary, no surprise there
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>>28262585

You're a fool and so is everyone that thinks like you, the biggest reason the system is broke is because idiots that think like you don't participate like whiny little do nothing bitches
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>>28258431
>>>/pol/
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>>28258431

>Either Trump or Celery are going to get into office
>Both of them are probably going to lead this country to a disaster worse than Bush and Oblamo could do cooperating

Habbening time, folks.
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>>28262633
>It's time for a revoloution

Yeah, because they always end well.
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>>28262633
That. Oh and the laws that make it legal for private foreign interests to openly buy politicians and policy so we can no longer call them traitors. Yeah forgot to vote against that. I'm sure an electric blip in a rigged voting machine would eliminate selfish greed and fight billions dollars of pay off.
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>>28262706

I live in the greatest country in the world because of one that ended well, and the amazing thing about this country is it allows for revolutions without a single drop of blood having to be spilled for them, but hey, you make a great point, sitting around while shit is crumbling about you and doing fuck all about it is a stellar plan, man the fuck up bitch
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>>28262777
>I live in the greatest country in the world because of one that ended well
Because of a war

>this country is it allows for revolutions without a single drop of blood having to be spilled for them,
Only in your mind bro, what do you think the 2nd Amendment is for?
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>>28258431
The "reality check" is up.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/19/politics/democratic-debate-fact-check/index.html

CNN agrees, lots of bullshit and misleading in there.
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>>28258466
I would prefer Bernie, I can only hope it isn't Hilary -vs- Trump as I don't think I could choose between them. please please please don't make me vote for Hilary.
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>>28258691
>slow things down a bit and maybe unfuck things with Russia.
kids today wouldn't have made it through the Cuban Missile Crisis. candy asses
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>>28259504
Holy shit those coons are so fucking polite.

I want one as a pet
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>>28258431
>account for imports
>of "assault weapons"
>into the United States
Almost anything they would call an assault weapon is already illegal to import. Youre right though, 15 million sounds low.
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>>28259399
Someone still mad about the battle of Brisbane kek.
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>>28258616
weren't we told to vote for Obama? weren't we told of his "spotless" record on gun control? where are we at now? we are the center of attention of an anti gun media. are rights are at stake. vote for Bernie by all means.
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>>28258466
weren't we told to vote for Obama? weren't we told of his "spotless" record on gun control? where are we at now? we are the center of attention of an anti gun media. are rights are at stake. vote for Bernie by all means.
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>>28258569
weren't we told to vote for Obama? weren't we told of his "spotless" record on gun control? where are we at now? we are the center of attention of an anti gun media. are rights are at stake. vote for Bernie by all means.
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>>28263075
If the glockenspiel 19 didn't ship into the US with plastic (nonfunctional) adjustable target sights that are immediately thrown out this side of the atlantic, it wouldn't have the right points requirement for importation.

we make ~8million firearms a year in the US for the commercial market and the lions share is definitely shit you can't get in new jersey and the other slave states. don't forget that a "single feature" style weapons ban backdoors a ban on pretty much every modern pistol back to 1890 will be prohibited that isn't a revolver.
>10 round top loading fixed magizine straight pull handguns, new for 2019 from S&W; now with hillary hole!
>the future you chose.jpg
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>>28263268
>But after that, it sort of settled down and you go into a pub and an Aussie would come and up and slap me on the back. "Oh, wasn't that a good ruckus we had the other night? And have a beer on me."
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>>28258661
try to articulate yourself better.
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>>28260945
Only real answer.

>But muh wasted vote!

Bullshit. It's a prisoner's dilemma. The only reason he doesn't get elected is that people think they're wasting votes. Even if he doesn't win this election, the more he gets on the radar, the better shot third parties have in future elections.
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>>28258728
nice shill. how much did they pay you to type that? are they prepackaged answers? were you sent a lap top and given instructions on its use? I need to know, I could use a little extra money.
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>>28258785
He said in recent years he's changed his stance on guns , he's said all the new data dosent support gun control . He had a chl , and he commented some of his friends have guns in every room of the house now . He stated on his website that guns are not the problem , mental illness , criminals and political correctness are
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>>28258788
nice post until you used the word retarded.
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>>28258808
we're still there.
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>>28258833
america was built on settlers. the foreigners came later.
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>>28258871
you mean hitllery. really how much do they pay you. Christmas is coming and I'm behind on my bills.
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>>28258808
the pope also denounced gun ownership as unchristian. thank god I'm not catholic.
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>>28263379
Story of our lives.
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Someone needs to ask the Dems if they think all companies should be open to civil suits. When someone intentionally or negligently misuses a product.

Smith and Wesson shouldn't be open to civil suits because someone murdered somone with one of their products.
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>>28258988
were you even alive back then?
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>>28263468
>the pope also denounced gun ownership as unchristian

"He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”

Catholics don't know their own bible.
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>>28263468
Jesus has said to sell your cape and buy a sword, if you do not own a sword. So I'm certain Jesus is pro gun. Though he would prefer for you to not use it.
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>>28259118
if you weren't there shut up. the AWB barely passed. it had to be watered down. the republicans had the senate, dems had the house. next election they lost the house. republicans in charge, economy boomed.
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>>28259139
mass, I don't think you know what that word means. thanks for the shill, it was cute.
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I'll be voting republican regardless

I prefer Cruz over Trump but the liberal tears will flow in rivers if trump wins and that's enough to justify voting for him.
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>>28259187
oh cry me a fucking river you fucking POS.
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>>28259257
I will think about that every time gun and the need to ban them is in the national spot light.
please tell me who I need to contact to be a paid shill. do you get medical benefits?
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>>28259312
shows box of fireworks, made in china. kek
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>>28258646
miss this brolationship
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>>28260945
i heard they might be replacing him with someone else this time around
either way, i'm voting libertarian
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>>28260906
so what will you replace it with? something that works? prolly not.
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Same. I'm sick of choosing between "ban x for the chilluns!" and "ban x because jeebus! Nothing in the bill of rights matters except the second amendment!"
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