Am i the only nogunz yuropoor who go green with envy about yes gunz countries freedom?
Its terrible!
>>28252990
What country are you in?
>>28252990
You'd think many of those nations, predominantly white, who Germany cu(ked in two world wars and millions died would desire an effective way to defend themselves.
Your own damn fault.
>>28253011
Germany.
State of Berlin to be exact
>>28253049
Be more exact and I'll send you a pizza
>>28252990
I'm german too
You can get everything you want from pistols to Ar's
Tell me what you want and i'll tell you how you get it
The shit is that you dont get fully automatic guns except you got a license and this license is hard to get
>>28253073
I now how to get one, im simply to poor for all the shit you need to get a wbk.
>>28253088
Well ok thats something different
How old are you
For example for the green wbk you must be at least 21
>>28253094
Im 20 and i have T*rkish citizenship.
Im right now working on getting a German citizenship (for getting a WBK one day but also for other reasons) and this alone is expensive as fuck because you have to pay so fucking manny authorities
>>28253103
ABORT THREAD
DO NOT HELP TURKSHIT
REMOVE KEBAB IMMINENT
DO NOT HELP THEM TO GET GUNS
>>28253103
Welcome to gun control 101, lad.
>>28253103
Typical german paperwork shit
And i think the citizenship has priority
But if you obtain it and you want some guns ill tell you how
This is now an European gun owner thread.
Switzerland reporting in.
>>28253123
Nice
I'll get a glock 17 gen4 for christmas
>>28253123
What's the 3rd gun ?
It's like a short Schmidt Rubin ?
(Also, in which canton do you live ?)
>>28253141
It's a K11 rifle that some Bubba decided to cut and put some sort of M1 stock on it. It's single shot only and I think it was used to kill farm animals.
>>28253115
Well my plan was to do it over a hunting license.
I now it would be cheaper with joining a Gun club and waiting one year but if i have guns i also want to go hunting with it.
I have one question tho:
could i buy a G43 (my favourite gun)? because i now that for example a Dragunow (wich is """similar"""") is classified as weapon of war in Germany
>>28253156
Actually theres no reason that you shouldnt be able to get one
You can buy dragunows in a civil version that looks and shoots like the original
The thing with the g43 is that its very hard to find
And if you find one it will be very expensive
I'm from Singapore and I wish I had a pump action shotgun.
>>28253073
Gemanfag here too, I have a couple of questions.
Which are the best shops for long guns, pistols and ammo?
What's the average price of storing safes?
Can I get a own gun when I sign up to a Schützenclub and have them store it for me before I get a own license?
I'm considering getting a Izmash Tigr at some point, is it legal here?
It sucks living in a country that won't allow you to keep a handgun or any weapon for self defence (UK).
I've been clay shooting and it's something i really enjoy, but it seems pointless to own a gun that i can only use to pop overpriced crockery once or twice a month.
I keep thinking about getting my FAC but it just takes too long and i don't even have any space for a gun safe.
>>28253246
It's cool at first but after blasting through 100 or so sport loads & buckshot you'll want to learn accuracy. Slugs are more expensive but most kick more. If you're new and/or a manlet your shoulder will hurt for a day or so afterwards.
Gas operated semiautomatic shotguns & muzzle brakes solved that problem but opened up a new one: 100 shells now lasts you 15 minutes.
>>28253232
I think SSD makes repros
>>28253262
I would recommend frankonia for shopping guns and ammo
The price of the safe depends on the security level
No you cant except someone buys the gun for you , signs it on his wbk and stores it in the safe until you get the wbk although you arent officialy allowed to use the gun at this point
You can buy the izmash tigr but you'll need to join an schützenverband that provides the shootingdiscipline. I would recommend the BDMP
>>28253262
>Which are the best shops for long guns, pistols and ammo?
Online Sportwaffen-schneider and Frankonia (Frankonia is better for hunting stuff tho)
I buy my shit at my local Hunting shop (who also do gunsmith jobs) tho
>What's the average price of storing safes?
For 250€ you get a good one for pistols, for rifles you have to expect around 400€
check it out yourself:
http://www.frankonia.de/schiesssport/zubehoer/waffensicherung/waffenschraenke/Artikel.html
>Can I get a own gun when I sign up to a Schützenclub and have them store it for me before I get a own license?
No
>I'm considering getting a Izmash Tigr at some point, is it legal here?
Yes, but its expensive here
>>28253107
>>28253103
Actually. If hes a muslim it should be easier.
Just go to Belgium and get some guns from black market dealers.
>>28253323
First i dont have any contacts to the black market (they would probably laugh about me)
Second im an atheist
>>28253289
>>28253314
Thank you guys, I will have to save up some more cash it seems.
>>28253049
go 2 frankonia faggut
(get wbk first)
>>28253246
What up Singabro, Malayshit here. Do you guys have shooting ranges down there? How are they like? Is membership by invite only or can anyone join so long as they're clean and have the money?
>>28253107
just ask your cousin in ISIS you goat fucking sand nigger
>>28253123
being swiss is like cheating
you're not even EU, hipster
>>28253333
Just say you want to get guns to protect yourselves from infidels though.
I don't understand why you think that's a BAD thing, just ask muslimbro. He buys grenades and shit for 20 bucks and his whole village has shitloads of guns and ordnance.
>>28253403
and then what?
Germany is crowded as fuck, i will never have the option to shoot it without anybody hearing it and calling the police
>>28253049
How does it feel that some Texan owns a BSW K98 mauser?
>>28253073
>you can get a firearm
Yeah you just have to pay a crazy high amount for a club fee and for ownership.
And dont even think about defending yourself with it. Especially against the invading kebab hordes or you're going to jail you bigot.
I dont understand why all Europeans who love firearms and freedom dont just immigrate to the US.
>>28253427
>>28253447
>understand why all Europeans who love firearms and freedom dont just immigrate to the US.
How easy is it?
>>28253103
>Turk
Go back to Turkey you piece of shit.
You can get all the guns you want from your ISIS allies.
>>28253447
Immigrating to the states isn't that easy if you aren't mexican.
You need a green card and for that you need a Employer that is willing to support your application for a gk. But this is expensive so you normaly only get it if you are really needed.
And the lottery prefare people from Asia over Europeans.
>>28253447
>freedom
>US
My euro country has way more freedom than your police state tbqh desu senpai
>>28253447
In germany we have a law called notwehr
So there are possibilities you can defend yourself
>>28252990
I feel you. Living in New Jersey is horrible.
>>28253459
>You have studied Physics or something like that
Easy
>You have a job that can easy be done by americans
forget it
>>28253470
Which one?
>>28253466
>>28253466
I want to do it.
My girl is training to be a paramedic so she should be able to get a work visa at least.
I work in the music industry and have some stuff published in America already, there's some kind of entertainment visa that i could loophole my way in with.
>>28253024
>who Germany cu(ked in two world wars and millions died would desire an effective way to defend themselves.
That's the thing -- most of the men who had the urge to fight were killed. The only men left were effeminate weenies who wanted to ban guns.
>>28253470
Switzerland doesnt count.
>>28253447
>US+A
>FREEDOM
Place of 'freedom' where coppers can shoot people climbing out of a car, fail to report the shooting or tell anyone and tries to hide the brass. Gets 0 suspension. Things like this happen almost daily yet the country is so desensitized nobody gives a shit about your 'freedom' to live.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5cf_1449814783
I own guns, won't get jailed for fucking weed, can commit euthanasia, if I was a woman I could get abortus no problem. I can collect rainwater, eat kinder suprise. I'm protected by law for lots of things you Americlaps can't even imagine. I can not become homeless unless I really want to, I will receive enough money to sustain myself if I would be jobless. I can enjoy University for almost no additional costs. The day I'm retired I will receive money to sustain myself untill I die. I won't get shot dead by some cop. Cops and law enforcement in general is very strictly regulated, they WILL receive severe penalties if they do not obey the law. Better democratic system than yours. Data retention is forbidden, so providers aren't even allowed to keep the data of who called who. More privacy. Want me to keep going? People can test the quality of the drugs they take, meaning less deaths and hospitalities. Education is actually important here. The justice system isn't as totally fucked as it is in US. People receive plenty of chances to rehabilitate before they get locked up. People are legally allowed to drink alcohol when they turn 16, in public too.Age of consent is 16, but nobody bats an eye if a 17y/o fucks a 14y/o Crime rate is REALLY low. Prostitution is legal. What kind of ‘freedom’ do you actually have if you can’t legally end your OWN life if you’re terminally ill or can’t legally fuck a female for money when there is an agreement between 2 conscenting adults?
>>28253416
>Germany is crowded as fuck
since when does mountains and forest are crowded as fuck ?
>>28253543
Wow, for someone who doesn't like the US you spend a lot of time talking about it.
>>28253543
>illegal in most states
only 11 states have any laws regulating it at all, and that doesn't even make it illegal
Also, please cry more about a cop accidentally shooting a violent felon
>>28253565
Don't get me wrong. I love your second amendment. Every citizen should have guns. I just don't get why so many citizens of USA want an authoritarian government. If you value freedom that much, then why limit it? The original view of 'freedom' is long gone. I'm full blooded european, but would still fight to death for the freedom of Americans, yet appearently you see 'freedom' as something else. How can you jail people for >10years for victimless 'crimes'? Why do you let your police forces break laws every single day and let them get away with it?
>>28253553
You will never be alone in any fores and mountain. there will always be people who see you
>>28253612
>Also, please cry more about a cop accidentally shooting a violent felon
The bootlicking is real.
>cop shoots an unarmed man climbing out of a car after a crash
>spent minutes looking for the brass instead of helping the victim
>failed to inform anyone he killed the dude
>lied when other paramedics arrived at the scene
POLICE DINDU NUFFIN
>>28253553
You clearly never was in germany.
It is like he said fucking crowded
>>28253681
Germany isn't crowded
t. Englishman
>>28253094
Not if you're a hunter. I got mine when I was 19.
>>28253480
You could marry some us grad student studying over there.
Frankonia employee reporting in
If you want to know stuff I'll try to answer it to the best of my abilities and will.
>>28254121
Why does tour shop sucks balls?
>>28253650
I don't agree with half of what the government does, but as long as people vote for something we have to follow what happens. Ordnung muss sein.
Unless it's completely stupid shit such as repealing the constitution, in which case motherfuckers
>>28253049
Hunfag here, go get Suhled man, that place is pure beauty.
>>28254159
>*in which case motherfuckers get voted out by element pb-82.
>>28253543
>proud to be a socialist pig
Get out of here, you fuckin faggot
>>28254148
Part of OTTO group, maximized for profit, Frankonia HQ not giving two shits about the shops and always pushing new stuff that doesn't work (new cash registers where just delayed, because shit's fucked).
Pick a handful.
Many good people left because of this.
One of the CEOs (Jutta Warmbier) has questioned if Frankonia shops really NEED gunsmiths.
Let that just sink in and think about it.
>>28254165
Lived 3 years in Suhl, because gunsmith.
The landscape is nice, but the city is full of sandniggers from the asylum center and old people.
Suhl is the oldest city in all of Germany as far as I know (average >50 years).
And the weather is awful. You get either some warm as shit winter with mushy snow and this wet creeping cold (like the last 2 years) or you get a straight up Stalingrad winter with snow up to your belly button (which is by far better, but has it's downsides).
Also 1 month of pure summer spread out over half a year and between that just meh weather.
After all Suhl is not all bad, but I'm happy that I left.
>>28253665
>giving half a shit about a dead lowlife
I would let 10,000 piece of shit felons die before 1 good officer.
Let them all take the day off and see how you like being tied up in the next room hearing your wife's scream while she's raped.
How about a simple "thank you" for keeping greasy nigger felons out of your house you ungrateful prick?
>>28253543
Found the kid that still lives at home.
Hey anon, what does a vagina smell like?
>>28252990
>tfw no gun ameripoor
Fuck jew nersey
>>28253049
Just do like I did and move from Germany's bear-themed state to America's bear-themed state. It's only bad in comparison with like 45 other American states, making it right around the 46th best state in the world for owning guns.
And I'll take you shooting if you come here and don't act like a faggot like most kraut tourists.
>>28253543
>ease of engaging in prostitution, infanticide, senicide, drug abuse, and collecting rainwater are the tests for freedom
Sign me up, Klaus!
>>28252990
Not really. I can own literally anything the murrikans can, and so should you. Admittedly takes more work though, but that isn't an issue for me.
>>28254903
>any of those
>bad
Bootlicker.
>>28254121
I have indeed a question.
When the Order agency or the Police came to check out your guns and safe, will they announce that they are comming?
If yes will i have enough time to hide my herbal jew?
>>28253107
I kek'd sorry Op, but it was kinda funny. I say that as a Swedish nignog getting armed.
>>28255017
Oh can you?
> Semi-automatics?
> 200 round .22 magazines?
> Shotgun Suppressors?
> Gatling guns?
> Airsoft guns?
> .50 cal's?
> quad mounted semi-automatic .50 cals?
> Pic related is what I can just go out and buy.
>>28255213
>yes, I have two
>yes, no limits exist
>yes (non-regulated, even, you can legally make your own)
>yes (collecting lists artillery and missile systems, admittedly really hard to get, but it IS possible)
>yes, it's pretty popular too
>yes, but permits are again hard to get
>>28255116
They will announce it like 2 weeks before they come.
>>28253103
git out.
>>28254648
lol I hope you never break the speed limit and some thug cop who pulls you over decides to smash your teeth in because you weren't respecting him enough, fucking bootlicker.
>>28253123
the fucking wood on that SR bolt handle
muhdik.wmv
>>28253543
It's illegal because it literally will destroy the local ecosystem and water table if too many people do it. You're retarded.
>>28255514
yeah all those countries in europe ruined because people in rural communities collect their own rain water, you are one good fucking goy.
>>28255555
>knowing this little about aquifers and the water system
europoor education lmao
>>28255751
there are americans who don't know what a kangaroo is and thinks cheese comes from the moon
you are in no position to talk
Sweden here, got a few bolt rifles and are trying to save up for at least one semi auto before the facists down in Brussels put a blanket ban on all of them.
>>28253477
Best decision that was made for me was leaving that State.
>>28255772
Doesn't matter, went to private school
enjoy being nogunz and full of refugees
>>28255857
>fascists
I think you'll find the EU is full of dirty commies
>>28255866
>full of refugees
whatever helps you sleep at night Jose lmao
>>28253123
>This is now an European gun owner thread.
>Switzerland reporting in.
Here comes Belgistan!
>>28253103
>and this alone is expensive as fuck because you have to pay so fucking manny authorities
Sell more kebabs.
>>28253553
>since when does mountains and forest are crowded as fuck
Who would live on a mountain? Have you even been to Germany? Those mountains are pretty inhospitable; hence why so few people live there. Also are you implying deforestation valid? Also not realizing that all that farmland is required for sustenance of the country. People see rolling hills and think there's room to live on; but those hills are what keep people fed.
>>28255910
Deforestation as a valid solution to the crowding of non-citizens.
>>28252990
It makes me depressed, so I have to go to the hospital and get antidepressants.
For free.
>>28253123
Finnish poorfag present and accounted for.
>>28255931
>guns
>free poison
pretty easy choice desu yuropoor
>>28255862
>tfw lived in New Jersey till I was in 3rd grade
>tfw moved to Nevada
>tfw realized later how lucky I was to move out of that shitty fascist state into a free one
>>28253427
>mfw I am that Texan
>>28255934
Are you sure you area a poorfag? Arent those sako rifles ridiculously expensive these days?
>>28256284
Anon, he's Finnish. They're ridiculously expensive because they have to leave Finland and come here, passing through all sorts of legal hoops. Same reason an AK doesn't cost $150 in the US despite being literally sheet metal and a driveshaft, because import laws.
>>28256284
There's about 3.5k EUR worth of stuff in the picture which is the exact reason why I'm a poorfag. And I can't afford an arsenal like the other cool guys ITT, so I'm a poorfag.
>>28253103
Kill yourself. The last thing Germany needs is more armed Muslims and shit. Seriously consider suicide.
>>28253650
Freedom ain't free, it's gotta be paid in the blood of illegals and niggers.
>>28256335
you own two automatic weapons, you're already the envy of thousands of Europeans, including myself.
>>28256398
Semi-automatic. I don't have a collector status (yet)
>>28256350
Make me
>>28253543
>Doesn't realize Cops killing Nigs is the greatest public service they perform
O lord, got another cuck on here. Go prep the bull no guns faggot
>>28256416
Soon turkshit. Russia will hopefully glass your shitty country
>>28256416
I honestly would if I could. Some day I'll get to beat the shit out of some T*rk
>>28256445
Then what? I dont live in turkey? i will be still alive and there is nothing you can do about it
>>28253543
I don't care what anyone says, most of this is pretty true.
>>28253103
I hope you have a good life in Europe. Enjoy Oktoberfest.
>>28256462
You do realize you will never assimilate right? Germans will never see you as German and your home country will see you as a traitor? Once Russia fucking flattens turkey, kills all your extended family, and rapes their corpses THEN will you still laugh?
>>28256477
>Oktoberfest
>In Dezember
>be german
>will never hold 1-2 kilograms of freedom in my hands
>will never unload that freedom in a freedom range onto a paper target
>will never feel real freedom
>feel the death of my country and identity instead
>>28256484
Well, considering how native germans deal with le poor syrian refugees i will probably get a huge amount of free shit...so yes i will still laugh
>>28256544
>1-2 kilograms
What light freedom. But you can do that in Germoney, you just need a bit of money.
>>28256593
I meant the levels of freedoms ameriburgers enjoy.
Having to sign up to a club for a year, then getting the police nagging you constantly, as well as all the strict and stupid requirements you need to fulfill for a man to own a simple firearm, I hate it.
Someone please invade us, then let us go after an armed resistance so we can have our own 2nd amendment.
>>28256550
So far. Have you noticed the hundreds of ass-ylum centers or whatever the fuck that have been vandalized and burnt down? Have you noticed the rallies in Germany and neighboring countries? No? Because their media is censoring it. The German government is afrai because they've reactivated the German people and they're starting to get pissed. Calling someone a NAZI no longer makes them recoil, hold onto your ass t*rk, Deutschland und Europa erwacen.
>>28256544
>be gentleman
>will never hold 4-5 lbs of Japanese history because mom won't shell out
>will never unload the Bushido spirit on bamboo reeds
>will never feel real samurai feels
>instead feel the crust on my daki every night
>>28256658
I don't think they constantly nag you though, and the requirements only suck when you're starting. Afterwards it eases up. And on the positive side, few idiots own guns unlike in Clapistan.
>>28255555
IS NO ONE GOING TO WITNESS THE QUINT 5S? IT'S SO PERFECT
>>28255862
I'm leaving this shithole for Florida as soon as my transfer goes through
>mfw literally any day now
>>28253049
I love my W. German Sig Sauer, thank you based Germany
>>28255555
>checked
Yeah, too bad you don't live in a fucking desert, with receding water sources and a years-long drought.
Most of the US doesn't give a shit about collecting rainwater. Almost all of the things you complain about only apply to certain states.
>>28256736
Crust is an important part of the texture, don't be a picky eater.
>>28255892
what is that delicious looking revolver next to the taurus?
>>28256667
>Germans actually believe this
I'm as hopeful as any other westerner with a brain but its not going to happen, have fun getting culturally enriched.
>>28253123
Sweden reporting
>Thanks Switzerland for making this
>>28259193
>swedish descendant cringing at the fate of sweden
>>28253049
Thank you for sending PTR that sweet HK tooling that built my rifle.
But seriously, having lived in a nogunz country, I feel for you my friend.
>Raises glass.
>>28254121
>Frankonia
How long does the HQ usually take to change a HK 10 round magazine to 2 rounds?
For those abroad going wtf? hunters can buy stuff like SBR ARs off the shelf if they come with a 2-round magazine, owing additional 100 round drums is legal, you just aren't allowed to use them for hunting...
>>28261388
>raises glass
>*nods respectfully towards you*
>>28254789
You'll find out eventually, just worry about finishing high school for now.
>>28254903
Fucking a thousand times this.
>>28253665
>HE WAS UNARMED
>BLACK LIVES MATTER
>What he beat his wife, had a large stash of illegal drugs, was on probation for murdering his ex wife, and had 17 prior convictions, 5 of which are violent felonies? MUH BLACK LIVES MATTER HE WAS UNARMED
>What he was going for the officer's gun? DOES THE FACT THAT I'M BLACK MEAN NOTHING TO YOU?
>What you mean cops deal with shit like this every day and go to their best friend's funeral because some "unarmed black teen" got a hold of his gun and he cared too much about saving some shitty thug's life than protecting his own? BUT HE WAS BLACK. RACIST.
Go thank a cop you miserable, thoughtless, ungrateful thug felon piece of shit.
>>28253246
>>28253384
Singaporean here who now lives in the U.S.
Singapore has only two ranges,
one is called the Singapore Gun Club and it's mostly just shotguns and pistols.The mostly just use CZ-75s as they focus heavily on competition shooting, but they do have some older surplus pistols and 22lr rifles.
There's also the Singapore Rifle Association, which has it's own range. They have a 25m piston range and a 50m rifle range. They have a larger range of modern pistols and as well as dedicated competition pistols, as well as 22lr rifles including a couple AR style 22lr rifles,
