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Just bought a DD Mk18 and waiting on the form 4. Should I add a suppressor to it? Are suppressors even worth it?
Suppressor general.
>Suppressor on mk18
Enjoy your gas blowback.
>>28249387
>whats a PRI Gasbuster
>>28249387
literally every SOF unit uses suppressors on their MK18's. Can't be that bad.
>>28249407
It does suck. I asked to shoot a guy's 16" suppressed AR at the range once and after I put 2 mags through it (my own ammo) I noticed I had some dirt on my cheek under my eye and you can smell/feel it when it comes out.
Gas buster charging handles and epoxy in the gap between the upper and CH is a common fix. Or just using a 416 if you are in JSOC.
>>28249431
Or use an adjustable gas block like the slr
>>28249349
>give the enemy $200 for cosplaying privileges
no, suppressors are not worth the hassle
>>28249520
Implying that having a suppressor isn't incredibly useful
>>28249349
Absolutely muffle it. 10.3" is obnoxious after a while.
Depending on the production run for the DD it may have the proper .07 port or it could be their "civvies shoot stupid tula" port of .081 port. If its the latter it will be torture even with a gas buster.
>>28249752
How can I tell without actually pulling off the gas block? It's of newer manufacture with the DD the type stock
>>28249808
Assuming you have the serial for your form 4, just call DD. I *think* all new ones should have the smaller port since enough folk complained.
>>28249349
>Are suppressors even worth it?
100% yes, do it.
>>28249971
What makes them so good?
>>28250606
Lack of concussion. 5.56 isn't quite hearing safe suppressed (especially out of short barrels) so I at least still wear earpro.
If you shoot a lot with 5.56 out of a short barrel, the concussion wears on you even with a standard A2. There is just too much muzzle pressure.
For the casual shooter that puts 3 or 4 mags downrange it may not matter as much, but when you are shooting several hundred rounds over the course of an afternoon, a suppressor keeps the blast from fatiguing you as much.
>>28249431
>Or just using a 416 if you are in JSOC
You're fucking high if you think that JSOC even has HK416s in their armories
DEVGRU are the only group that use them
>>28250790
AFSOC rocks the MK18 and SCAR. I've never seen the HK416 in use.
>>28250790
You do realize that Delta petitioned for the original 416 development program, right?
Hint: That's not Navy in the picture.
>>28250870
I've seen very little evidence that it is still in wide use.
>>28250870
post a picture of them being used by someone other than a DEVGRU operator in the last four years.
I'll save you the effort, you won't find any, because CAG doesn't even have any in their armories, let alone the rest of JSOC. If Delta/CAG don't have them, why the fuck would anyone else?
>>28250916
>still in wide use
Is a metric I'll agree to, its a weapon that solves issues we weren't having in recent conflicts (water in the gas tubes after going for a swim). The SOPMOD Block upgrade series M4s and MK18s pushed HKs off the table in favor of weapons with shared logistical support to standard issue M4s.
>>28250606
it's just awesome, i can't put it in words but after shooting a suppressed ar for the first time, the following monday i bought one.
If suppressors were mandatory instead of forbidden fruit, you would hate them.
Think about that.
>>28251032
No, they really are that good.
>>28249349
Why does that casing look so weird?
The rest look fine but that specific one looks like it was drawn on top of the image or photoshopped in or something.
>>28251100
Looks like steel 7.62x39, the contrast being blown out on the picture makes it look odd.
I was wrong. Here's a picture of some CAG guys using 416A1s
Two more. Seems like the 416 is indeed being purchased at some level by CAG/ACE, although I doubt at the vanilla level
>>28251766
They look like generic HK416s with anodized EVERYTHING. The receiver extensions are anodized, and it looks like they have annodized metal dust covers, not the newer plastic ones. The lower is also blocky like the older HK416s, never ones have a typical AR-15 slant to them.
>>28251842
gotta match those geissele rails yo
>>28249520
Build your own
Only time you stand a chance of getting caught are at the range or hunting if some dickweed reports you.
My retarded friend brags about his homemade suppressed .22 all the time on fagbook and hasn't got any shit from ATF after like 3 months so I doubt you will get in any trouble if you just shoot outdoors/away from people
>>28251902
but m-muh surefire proprietary muzzle device
It's really not that hard, suppressors are stupid simple, people make them all the time. Just make sure you don't leave it attached to your rifle when transporting/storage/whatever.
A shiny metal tube with a hole on both ends really doesn't attract as much attention as you'd think. It can be disguised or disassembled easily.
>>28251902
>>28251928
ATF pls leave
I honestly couldn't give a fuck about a tax stamp, I would pay it gladly if form 1s didn't take forever to get approved. I don't like waiting for things I've already purchased.
>tfw hearing protection act won't pass
>tfw you will always have to pay a $200 tax and wait several months just to own a metal tube.
>tfw literally paying the government to save my hearing and avoid disturbing people within a reasonable area around my firearm
>>28249349
Does anybody know what type of buttstock this is?
>>28252024
magpul STR
>>28252036
thanks
I enjoy a suppressor on my SBR.
As far as them being worth it. If you get a decent brand, yes. Certainly worth it in my book.
>>28250606
Special snowflake syndrome, mostly. They're added weight, you'll still need to use earpro and they make cleaning such a bitch. Here they're free to buy and everyone has them. I choose not to use mine on my AK most of the time because of the aforementioned issues.
Suppressors are only worth it if you meet one of the following criteria:
>you own land and shoot on it
>you only go to the range when nobody else is there
>you put one on your HD gun to protect your ears in a HD situation
>your state allows hunting with suppressors and you want to hunt with one
A can at a public range with other people is absolutely worthless because you still need to wear ears.
>>28250916
>seen very little evidence
>evidence
>pictures on the internet
>>28250916
>>28250954
Just about every picture of CAG from the last 10+ years shows them using the 416 though.
>>28252561
You don't see them in use anymore period dot. At least not with AFSOC or MARSOC.
>>28254680
You mean the people who never had them to begin with?
>>28250954
So you know how the inside of an armory of CAG looks like based on pictures which were first cleared by the DOD for publishing?
ITT everyone is butthurt and tries to defend the HK416. More moving parts does not make a good rifle.
>>28254680
MARSOC doesnt have units in JSOC. They where only placed under command while on deployment so their acquisition process for gear etc does not go through JSOC.
>>28254729
No one is defending the gun though.
So wait, 5.56 isn't hearing-friendly when suppressed? What about 300 Bacon Lettuce Killmato?
>>28254757
depends if the ammo is subsonic or not.
>>28254757
yes the blackout is definitely hearing safe with subsonics. apparently its as quiet or quieter than the coveted MP5SD according to AAC
>>28249349
Adding a suppressor increases the muzzle velocity by 25-40%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oXMrvDU7-Q
>>28254795
HK416A5 also has a solution to the back pressure.
![la7ejv1[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/fn8kv7y.png "la7ejv1[1].png")
>>28254680
The 416 is primarily with Delta and DEVGRU. AWG used to have them until the Army made them turn them back in. >>28252561
was taken within the last year. Piston ARs are superior when using suppressed SBRs
>>28255029
> Piston ARs are superior when using suppressed SBRs
Why exactly? not criticizing, just curious.
I know the older HK416's had problems with supressors, the buffers would take such a beating the end caps would flatten out and tear.
>>28255055
Using a suppressor tends to introduce more gas into the operating system. With a DI gun, this makes it significantly dirtier when firing and gunks it up faster. The newer piston ARs have a gas setting specifically for suppressors that reduces this, plus they're easier to clean
>>28254778
Unsurprising, you have to remember, the MP5SD is technology from 1974. Suppressors have advanced quite a bit since then.
Is it a FAMAS?
Picked up a suppressor for my new build at the weekend
>>28257339
It's steel I think, has a really nice heft to it
>>28257350
Here it is attached to the gun
>>28257350
They bothered to serialise it? Whatever for?
Also that looks a lot like my BR can.
