Is this shit made of cardboard?
Why? Why would they make a clip out of paper? I don't get it.
It was meant to be disposable.
>>28245435
Disposable, cheap, and strong enough.
>>28245435
It's meant to be thrown away after one use and holds bullets as good as anything else. Sorry 1930's military planners didn't take into account what collectors feelings would be 70 years down the road.
>>28245435
>cheap as goddamn fuck
>easier to make and easier on machines
>doesn't have issues that full metal clips can get in super cold weather
>>28245435
Do you have downs?
>>28245435
BTFO
End the thread, shits been answered.
>>28245447
>>28245449
>>28245460
>>28245461
>>28245471
Fuck off. A single strip of metal is way easier to make and way better than this crap.
There's no excuse other than being mountainous Jewish.
>>28245435
It was intended to be biodegradable, so as to be discarded and forgotten on the battlefield.
>>28245507
>A single strip of metal is easier and better.
>You'd only use this to save money!
Wow, it's almost as if war isn't free! :O
>>28245507
You're taking this awfully personally.
Get out of here metal clip internet defense force.
>>28245435
for the joke of course
>>28245507
>A single strip of metal
So what you're saying is that you've literally never seen a clip before? Almost all of them are two pieces of metal.
You know, they make new production ones that aren't made out of cardboard, right?
http://www.northridgeinc.com/store/index.cfm/c146/i898
You can even get 2 for $25
http://www.northridgeinc.com/store/index.cfm/c146/i1688
>>28245927
Reports are that they are shit at retention.
>OP
>>28245946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfJJzqDMp7I
Eh, they seem alright. Around 3 minutes in he shows that, yeah, with a good jerk they'll fall out, but if you had it in a pouch I think you'd be alright.
>>28245975
For 5 bucks a pop maybe but at 12.50 for something that somehow does the job worse than cardboard I'd rather just try niggerrigging my own if I get a Swiss rifle.
>>28245435
Remember OP, no matter how stupid something sounds it ain't stupid if it works.
>>28245435
>clip
>>28245435
It fucking works, that's the answer to your question.
>>28245461
>>28245447
>>28245449
>>28245512
All clips (this one here is actually called a "loading frame" since it's quite obviously not a clip) were meant to be disposable. Could someone show a source how this cardboard thingy is actually cheaper than a metal strip or meant to be biodegradable? Is it actually better in cold weather?
>>28246099
The whole problem with the cardboard one is that the metal tabs wear out quickly. They won't wear out on this plastic one, but they won't have the initial retention that you get on the cardboard ones. If you can find the cardboard ones, you're going to pay more than $25 then add shipping.
>>28246669
I suppose its nice that it keeps the rounds better and is easier to load than some spring pressure clips.
The Romanian 8mm clips you get will take off your finger nail they're so stiff.
>>28246669
As far as I know it was for a matter of disposability: original ones are becoming more and more rare because they used to burn used ones instead of repurposing them. Another factor is that the Swiss army outsources production of ammunition and stuff like that to civilian enterprises: having to keep making clips kept some contracts going.
Plus there is the fact that the Swiss tend to overdesign a lot when it comes to firearms. A perfect example would be the straight-pull bolt in the Schmidt-Rubin series of rifles and the magnificently ugly SG510... with a two-ways spring for the extractor/ejector.
Or the fact that half the support weapons used by the Swiss army from 1900 to 1945+ were in an upsized Luger toggle action. LMG and 20mm aircraft autocannon included.
We mountain Jews love to overthink shit.
>>28245507
>that many folds
>one piece of metal
>cheap
>easy
![k4pcz[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0R3BAzF.jpg "k4pcz[1].jpg")
>>28245507
>Implying that metal is more abundant, less scare than paper puree, and that paper requires more industrial special tooling and dyes to work with
>>28245507
>ask a question
>receive answer
>>Fuck off
Eat a dick, shitcunt
actually the 6 round chargers are fantastic
>>28245507
>A single strip of metal is way easier to make
Get a box-cutter and a steel sheet and get back to us with that.
The Swiss also experimented with Mauser-type stripper clips. They were successful but were more expensive and it was determined they offered no advantage over the steel and cardboard loaders.
>>28249893
Another photo of the experimental loaders.
>>28246263
Yes its a clip. What don't you understand?
>>28245507
METAL CLIPS LIVES MATER
>>28245908
mosin clips are a single piece.
>>28246669
>ould someone show a source how this cardboard thingy is actually cheaper than a metal strip
Really? You think fucking paper is more expensive than steel?
Look, they did similar shit with droptanks in WWII.
http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbird-articles/necessity-mother-invention-paper-drop-tanks-wwii.html
>>28245507
>op
>faggot
nothin new
>>28251457
>almost all
>almost
>>28251457
Yeah and they suck ass.
>>28251544
Not the original ones.
>>28245507
but metal was to be used on the tanks Tovarisch, not more wasted on ammo
>>28245435
>>28245507
>>28249987
>>28246669
>(this one here is actually called a "loading frame" since it's quite obviously not a clip)
>>28252666
>He carries a PB-1 and I cannot
>>28245435
What everyone is forgetting here is that in the 30's celluloid, paper, resin, and pressed fiber were kind of the experimental composite matierial of the era.
They experimented by making all sorts of small shit out of such matierials that were normally made of metal (license plates, dog tags, ration coins) for the same reason we make dumb shit out of carbon fiber today.because its high tech and looks cool, and because they can.
90 years from now some collector is going to be online with some faded cracking and sun damaged plastic magazine going "jesus fuck, why didnt they just use metal"
Because people dont design small shit like clips and mags to last a century and such matierials both worked, and were in vogue at the time. Thats why.
>>28245507
What, something disposable can't handle constant use 70 years later?
If you have some for your Swiss rifles, don't use them too much.
Also, choice in metal can affect reliability. Brass Carcano clips can only have so many trips through the gun before they stop working.
>>28246263
>tries to meme
>tries to blend in
>fails miserably
>>28252905
It's literally not a >clip faggot, it's called a charger.
>>28252922
ok, i admit defeat
>>28251476
Stripper clips can be made from very cheap steel. Besides, the cardboard thing has metal reinforcements.
>>28245435
metal gets very sticky when it gets cold
>>28253014
Which are made of tin.
>>28245435
Fun fact, it's actually phenolic resin, like in printed circuit boards.
>>28245927
>>28245946
>>28245975
I bought two of them, and the retention is not great. It's fine for a range toy, but if you ever wanna go InRangeTV style, I wouldn't trust them for any sort of serious shooting. They were worth the money, but I'm glad I have mine OG ones.
>>28246690
I've been using my original ones for about a year now, and have never been worried about a tab coming off.
>>28245507
Brilliant.
10/10.
/k/, easiest board to troll since forever.
>>28245435
cheap, easy to mass produce and disposable
>>28251544
>>28251457
>mfw use mosin nagant clips I got off amazon at 10 cpc
>mfw they work fine
Is it possible to 3D print strong enough stripper clips?
>>28257322
They would be too flimsy and definitely not okay for combat.
For an amateur tho, they would be fine.
Anyway it's less expensive to just bend a sheet of metal.
>>28257322
Yes, somebody actually made some 3d printed K31 clips. The files on are shapeway
Is GP11 going to show up on the market again?
I'll buy a mound of it if it's reasonable.
>>28258485
Nope, most is staying in Swiss borders becasue it is less of a headache and more profitable in a couple years it's probably going to be the last couple shipments
Just save Privi brass and reload, GP11 is good for milsurp but you could blow it out the water with basic hand loading techniques without even working up a load.
>>28259637
Holy shit my sides
>>28259861
man I'm serious af right now
been haunted by a ghost chick since I was like 10, she's pretty in to me but we never got it on or anything as she's a fucking ghost
haven't seen her in years but every once in a while stuff like this roll comes up and makes me wonder if she's still hanging around squirting ectoplasm all over while she fingers herself watching me every time I fap
>>28259911
Lol dude you got me rollin over here
Sorry you're serious but i'm losin it
>>28260260
man seriously though
can you fuck a ghost like I can't even touch her what's the point
![04f[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZDPWWwK.jpg "04f[1].jpg")
>>28259911
>>28260260
>>28260284
wooowooo woo
>>28257618
got a link?
>>28257618
>>28261744
Sorry, I was wrong. Files are NOT there, you gotta buy the shit. There were some guys on a forum that made modeled and printed some but didn't release STLs and now the forum appears down (I could view Google's cached page)
>>28262174
Oh
>>28257691
how do they work?
wow, this thread got cleaned up. 100 or so posts?
>>28264566
Yes. There were a bunch of faggots "rolling" for monster girls.
>>28257322
>>28257618
Wasn't there a kommando who was designing some? I think he was making them both straight but also a version that would let you use the clips with a scope.
>>28246669
>Could someone show a source how this cardboard thingy is actually cheaper than a metal strip
I don't think it's a matter of "cheap," but rather availability.
The reason why the Mosquito was built is because a new heavy fighter/light bomber was needed. But in a global war, not only are materials used extensively, but also hard to get unless your country produces said natural resources. The British had a lot of timber and skilled workers with wood, so they built a successful, flexible aircraft out of timer. That kind of improvisation and ingenuity is what it takes to win a war of that scale.
The Swiss did it to conserve metal for other things. Plus, they spent a lot of metal on ammunition and other parts of the gun.
