http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/deutscher-waffen-nachschub-fuer-die-peschmerga-a-1068371.html
Missile launchers and APCs as well
So what's the deal with the G36, is it a good rifle? Were reports of melting overblown?
It's good enough to fuck with Turkey. So I'm good with it.
It seems like it isn't really bad. The Germans used the damn thing for 20 years, after all.. But the German fetish for heavy rifles continues and they are ordering HK 417 to issue to some units as a replacement.
Kurdistan Nationalist could do a hell of a lot worse then the G36 though. Good luck to them carving off bits of Syria, Iraq, Turkey and Iran.
>>28242179
to bad we have all these import restrictions now. The American civilian market should be the world's service rifle retirement home.
>>28242179
What kind of missile launchers and APCs? Also they've been sending them G36s since last year.
So... is it Germany/Turkey proxy war now?
So many proxy wars... War has changed.
>>28242367
It's not really a proxy war. The Germans do make the Kurds pinkey swear they won't shoot Turks in Turkey with the weapons they get from Germany, like other guns to Kurds programs it's mostly a feel-good move for politicians to say they are Doing Something about Wahhabist.
That said, guns to Kurds is guns to Kurdistan, and Turkey is super pissed at how much support and training they've gotten already. With good reason, given the possibility of Kurdistan peeling off a valuable chunk of Anatolia if it ever gets off the ground.
>Germany dumping G36s on Kurds
Kurds dumping G36s on to black market
>>28242398
Maybe a few... but they need guns man. The Kurds, and others on their side (Arab Muslims, Christians, Zoroastrians, and especially the Yazidis) are in a war of annihilation with ISIL.
If they lose, they will become slaves, kinda something they take seriously.
>>28242398
I doubt it, from what I've seen the Peshmerga are basically using everything they're getting and all that they've got in the fighting.
>>28242398
Fuck nigger, they aren't throwing them off the back of a truck to anyone that wants them in Afrin.
It's guns to Peshmerga in Iraq and they come with German instructors to cover training and maintenance. There's some corruption and losses because what are you going to do, it's a fucking military in the middle east, but the Peshmerga need guns more then they need cash.
>>28242357
25 April: 70 tons of German arms and equipment, including 20 MILAN anti-tank guided missile launchers, 150 gripstocks for Panzerfaust 3 light anti-tank weapons, 2 Dingo mine resistant vehicles, and 3 military ambulance vehicles, as well as medical supplies, training weapons, spare parts, and 1,000 gas masks.
2 May: 6 million rounds of ammunition for G36 and G3 assault rifles, 1 Dingo mine resistant vehicle, 2 military ambulance vehicles, and medical equipment and supplies.
12 May: About 61 tons of ammunition, consisting of 300 MILAN anti-tank guided missiles, 1,392 rounds for Panzerfaust 3 light anti-tank weapons, 120,000 tracer rounds for G3 assault rifles, and 5,000 hand grenades
13 May: 77 tons of ammunition, consisting of 1,812,000 rounds for G36 assault rifles, 580,000 rounds for G3 assault rifles, 508,800 rounds for MG3 machineguns, 908 rounds for Panzerfaust 3, and 60 illumination rounds for Carl Gustav recoilless rifles
28 May: 56 tons of military equipment and supplies, including 2,000 helmets, 3,000 gas masks and filters, 2,000 pairs of combat shoes, 500 binoculars, and 30 pieces of mine detection equipment, plus equipment and supplies for the German training contingent in Irbil.
For people that were curious and wanted the information without having to read Nazi.
That is a fuck of a Christmas list.
>>28242357
Where are the rails? Where is the new flashider? why they`re using transparent mags? And why is the same old stock?
Im just saying that they gave them surplus garbage that lied abandoned in some forgotten storage, what kind of advantage is this rifle supossed to give over the AK?
>>28242179
I didn't really like it that much. Not particularly comfortable and quite front heavy and bulky I found. I'm used to using the L85 so that might be why I felt like the weight was all in the wrong place but I didn't have this problem with the M16 which I found amazingly pointable and comfy.
>>28242446
>>28242446
I can't tell if this was written by a nogunz that didn't know what the hell they were reading, or by someone trying to explain to nogunz.
>580,000 rounds for G3 assault rifles
>508,800 rounds for MG3 machineguns
That has to be trolling, right?
>>28242463
Maybe the MG3 rounds are already linked?
>>28242450
>they gave them surplus
I thought that was the point? Give them something they can use that you no longer need.
>>28242446
Interesting. From what I've seen they've been using the Dingos quite extensively, this one was one of the first vehicles into Sinjar when they liberated it.
It is if you're still rocking the original one. In other words, the military apparently still ran around with 20 year old rifles that never got upgraded. No other country is complaining as far as I know.
Anyways, I really wish they would stay out of this and fix this fucking country instead. There are enough problems, no need to create another one.
>>28242446
So german speaking Swiss are also nazis?
Thank you very much.
>>28242596
was it really necesary to give it this faggoty faux tiger-stripe look
Was it, Ahmed
>>28242596
What? They gave them Dingos?
Also
>those shots in the front shield.
>>28242398
>Kurds dumping G36s on to black market
oh man I would really like to have a G36 but fuck I aint going to the middle east for it
>>28242351
Wouldn't happen with German export laws
>>28242446
Damn, that's a lot of new stuff for ISIS to steal.
>>28242446
so BW is out of ammo now?
>>28242463
Most people are nogunz, dude. Chances are it was written by a European.
This is enough equipment for them to fucking officially cede from Iraq once they're done removing islamic kebab. Independent Kurdistan state by 2017 confirmed.
>>28242463
Most likely already belted for MG3 use.
>>28243573
The Kurds have proven themselves pretty capable at combating ISIS.
>>28244373
I was under the strong impression the mg3 was mag fed
>>28245960
Oops confused it with the heavy barrel g36
>>28242214
>>28242367
>>28242395
Doesn't Turkey have a decent relationship with the Iraqi Kurds?
>>28245980
noooooooooooooooooooooo
>>28242427
I forget how big a full-sized assault rifle until i see some emaciated third-worlder holding one. reminds me of those pics where the south vietnamese rangers are holding XM177s and they look like bolters
>>28242429
adding to this: Iraqi Kurds are strapped with cash right now from their oil exports to Turkey. They could probably buy better weapons than these if they were allowed to directly requisition them.
Those Turk trainers that the Iraqis bitch about are there to make sure that Iraq doesn't start making the Kurds pay them a cut of the oil money. Everyone is getting played like a fiddle for money over there.
>>28242214
can you really call the kurd's nationalist? They're a revolutionary force that are attempting to make a libertarian socialist federation of communities
>>28242636
Nazi sympathizers.
>>28242179
>tfw the Kurds get the gun you've wanted since you were a kid.
Totally going to have an SL8 butchered to be a G36 clone. Don't care how much it costs.
>>28246090
You can legitimately just go to North Syria and fight as a Kurd, and you'll not only have the chance of getting a G36, but also to blast some ISIS.
>>28242446
>and 1,000 gas masks.
>3,000 gas masks and filters
What are they gona do? Learn from Germany and gas away their problems?
>>28246111
Gee, I wonder why Iraqi Kurds would want gas masks. What are you, 12?
>>28246126
Has the IS been using chemical weapons?
>>28246126
Are you telling me ISIS uses chemical weaponry?
Or is it because they dont want to be gassed by Iraq again?
>>28246153
that's the joke I was making, but really, what military doesn't have a use for gas masks? Better safe than sorry.
>>28246145
>>28246153
There have been reports of ISIS using artillery shells filled with mustard gas.
>>28246175
Woah, link?
>>28243573
The Kurds have consistently beat the shit out of ISIS. Read a book, nigger.
>>28242179
KURDISH LEOPARDS WHEN.
Yes, let's arm more random ethnic groups in the middle east! I see nothing that can go wrong!
>>28246215
Maybe the Kurds will carve out their own state and we'll get an ally that's worth a damn in the ME.
>>28246106
Unfarchunately, I'm in a real military and that would be very much frowned upon.
>>28246241
If they carve out their own state, they'd instantly be at war with a NATO member.
>making critical parts out of plastic
H&K: Accept no substitutes
>>28246274
I'm not that knowledgable on NATO, but I thought we only help a country if it was attacked first, not if they are the aggressors.
>You will never use German melting magic to operate against ISIS
>>28242179
It's a good rifle, just like the M16.
>They are both flawed but effective.
Why do G36s looks so huge? Or are they all manlets?
>>28246291
We wouldn't have to help Turkey, but it makes being allies with the Kurds a very difficult thing to accomplish, politically. Especially when Turkey could spin it as the Kurds being the aggressors- not like they're short on Kurdish terrorism to point to.
>>28246333
The rifle is three feet long.
>>28246241
If Kurd s go independent its the Turks that hold the key. Without Turkish blessing they would be a bigger version of Armenia with even worst relations with neighbors.
>>28246285
How are we to know it doesn't basically work?
>>28242179
Are they trained to chick lean?
>>28246379
What's this guys name again?
>>28246518
He's meming.
The conclusion reached on the investigation is that the G36 performs like an assault rifle.
That is, if you repeatedly fire a bunch of magazines out of it on full auto you can damage it. This is why there is a distinction between assault rifles and light machine guns/support weapons.
The report was retarded and use conditions unrealistic for any regular assault rifle.
>>28246593
Dan "The Man With the Van" Schneider.
>>28242179
You know, it costs money to destroy the rifles properly. So they just send the junk to the kurds.
>>28246145
Saddam.
>>28242636
And people say German's don't understand humor.
>>28246063
Kurdistan is the dream and there is a nationalistic bent to it, with the idea that Kurds deserve to have a homeland where their lanauge, culture and beliefs are respected.
That could be achieved with semi-autonomous areas, but that seems to only be as good as the current party in power's promises.
Think I'm gonna do up my PTR91 to look like a G3A3A1.
>>28245939
>>28246200
All the Kurds are good at doing is looting after coalition airstrikes do 95% of the work. You've fallen for their propaganda machine. They are no better than any Arab fighter.
>>28246184
Those fucking shells have been popping up over there for decades. Real nightmare for EOD.
The new western/German weapon are really helping. Also order 20.000 VHS rifle from Croatya. We go from having AK-47/AKM/RPK/PKM/RPG-7/some M16A2 and M4 to G3/G36/M16A4/M4A1/VHS/FAMAS/FAL Rheinmetall MG 3/MG 42/59/Minimi/Minimi 7,62/M240/M60E4/M2/EBR/L96A1/PSG-1/M-24A1/M-24A2/M40/M82A1/M107A1/HS. 50/Breda Folgore/Panzerfaust 3/AT4CS/Carl Gustaf/TOW-2A/few TOW-2B/MILAN/few ERYX. NCO and Officer can choose P1/P99/ P226/Hi-Power/Glock 17/19/26/22/23/27/Beretta 92/HS2000/ M&P9/M1911A1 as personal pistol. I carry shortern FAL/MG42/51/P1
>>28248958
>Sergeant
>carrying an FAL and an MG3
Of fucking course. Fucking Orks, all of you.
>>28248958
>FAMAS
Didn't realize the French were supplying
>>28248981
I just carry. I make soldier shoot MG42/51.
>>28242463
>what is linked ammo
And you call other people noguns? Faggot.
>>28249009
Yes. FAMAS and ERYX from France.
>>28242179
Hey, hey guys..
You should do the MG3 disassembly in World of Guns. It must take three different factories to make one of those fucking things.
>>28248958
Hey how are you recovering? Also are you guys going to get any new tanks in the near future? From what I've seen you guys have a lot of T-55s/T-62s, which are getting rather old.
>>28249735
Pretty good can walk again now. Tanks? Big maybe. If we capture M1 from Iraqi Army or other tank from Daesh. Baghdad and Turkey would block tank deals.
>>28250210
What about Anti-tank weapons? I know you guys are getting more Milans but anything else?
>>28250256
TOW-2A/some TOW-2B/some ERYX/very few FGM-148.
>>28250385
That's good. I've also been meaning to ask, how are the factional divides between the PUK and KDP? Also do you guys work with the PKK/YPG?
>>28250405
Restructures are underway to make unified Pêşmerge and Zeravani Pêşmerge. I am officer candidate for new unified force. We fight with YPG a lot. Almost always a support brigade and combat brigade in Rojavayê. No advance weapons in Rojavayê though. If Daesh capture any it could really piss Turkey off. PKK when and where needed. They follow their own command structure.
>>28250487
>We fight with YPG a lot
Does it ever extend into actually shooting at each other? Also how many Peshmerga are in Rojava?
>>28250756
>Fight alongside YPG
Would that be more correct in English? 1,500 to 3,000 Pêşmerge at any time plus classified Pêşmerge Special Forces.
>>28250804
I see, I was confused for a second.
Who do we have to convince in Germany, that American citizens are freedom fighters and need weapons to establish democracy?
>>28251146
It is okay. YPG training is coming more and more professional. This is my favorite weapon aside from MG42/51. Have my shaved beard since that picture. Sorry shit phone picture friend take.
>>28246041
It's funny because I always pictured G3's being super big and heavy, but I went into an LGS and fingerfucked one and was a little underwhelmed by how big they were. I can't imagine G36's being any larger than a G3 either so maybe I'm just the weird one here.
>>28251786
Should be good comparing.
>>28251272
>>28251835
Yo post more pictures
>Giving weapons that are infamous for huge rate of failure in hot climates if used in sprays rather than controlled bursts to people in who live in hot climate and are a quasi-professional military
German jews betraying Kurds again
>>28242214
>>28242367
>>28242395
>Not knowing that Peshmerga is literally Turkey's watchdogs in the region
>Not knowing that only reason Barzani even survived Kurdish Civil War in 90s was Turks intervened and crushed the opposition
>Not knowing that Barzani is literally worked for Turkish Intelligence Service (MIT)
I am not going to even comment on the fact that Turkey and Turkish businessman pretty much owns all of KRG's economy or the fact that without Turkey's support, KRG would be sorrounded by hostile forces and turn into another Armenia if it's not invaded by Iran or Iraq directly.
Only way for Kurds is PKK, Islamo-facsist Turkish dog Barzani is a traitor to Kurdish people.
>>28252562
Why do you think they're giving them away?
>>28246605
So I guess those dumb tests explain why nobody else using G36 variants were having issues with it.
>>28242463
Link and ball ammo. Know your shit before you gob, you nogunz faggot.
>>28251272
If you're still in the thread; hope your lads go alright. Stay safe.
>>28248958
>mg42
This is a good dreidel remover, mate
who dropped you the minimi's?
>>28242427
built Ford tough
>>28252562
turk detected
>>28245980
Yes
It's the Syrian kurds they want to genocide
>>28245988
Yes they do, they had Iraq up in arms for sending troops to train the peshmerga
Turkey hates the Syrian Kurds though
>>28252932
>"Only way for Kurds is PKK"
>turk detected
Damn youre stupid as fuck. Hes obviously a dirty commie
>>28242179
HK, the us civilian firearms market is fucking massive, please make civilian versions of your weapons.
I dont give a fuck, I would buy an MP7 even if it had to have an ugly ass barrel extension.
>>28248780
how come that looks blacker and greener than my ptr
>>28254363
Much darker grey parkerizing, and you might have the "tropical" green furniture rather than the OD.
>>28252733
They are good and rotated off front for four day. I will try best.
>>28252807
It remove Daesh for me. Israel helping us quietly or not quietly if come to that. Belgium, brand new from FNH.
>>28242450
>what kind of advantage is this rifle supossed to give over the AK?
Well its more accurate for starters, but the idea is that now they're all using a consistent rifle, delivering them ammunition will be easier since its a standard NATO caliber.
>>28254446
We are going to NATO standard. All Soviet/Warsaw/Yugoslav weapon being replaced except Tank and AFV. That going to YPG or to be sold on firearm market if surplus.
>>28254470
That's what I figured, from what I've read and seen, the Peshmerga had been using mixed equipment for a while and it makes it harder to deliver basic goods like magazines and ammunition since half the squad is using slavshit and the other half M16s and the like.
>>28254486
It will take many years to replace Soviet for NATO weapons. 450,000 total Pêşmerge have to get NATO weapons and train with.
>>28254562
Thanks for giving us information man. It's interesting to see your perspective.
Good luck! Here's hoping the world gets the balls to tell Turkey to fuck itself.
