What are some good, aesthetically pleasing pistols? I wanted the P2000, but I read a review that said it was garbage, and it's like 1000 bucks.
>>28098419
What review?
A CZ P-07 fits your criteria.
>>28098419
P2000 is awesome, and they are easily found for like $650.
>>28098431
This. The P2000 is an excellent pistol and is not tough to find under $700. Very accurate and reliable, as one would expect from HK.
>>28098439
breakin elbows since 1891
>>28098427
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/01/daniel-zimmerman/gun-review-heckler-koch-p2000/
>>28098419
The CZ P09 is pretty good, and the look is up to you
>>28098468
All I read in that article that was bad is the trigger, and they can be had for around 700 bucks, at least in the US.
>>28098468
Did you read that review?
I mean he shits on HK fanboys but says it's a pretty good pistol. Sounds about right to me.
>>28098419
Hi-Power looks pretty good, personally.
>>28098419
cz75b
hi power
>>28098471
Am I the only one who'd love it if CZ released a P09 with a P07 length grip?
>>28098577
Nah, I would love that, even if it would just be from an aesthetic point of view.
>>28098419
The USP is more aesthetically pleasing than the P2000. Both are great guns though.
>>28098694
IMO the full-size is better looking.
I'd prefer the compact but I just really dislike the look of the compact's trigger guard.
>>28098768
>USP
>Not in .45 ACP
At least it's not in .40
>>28098468
I'm reading through this review and a bunch of other HK reviews. Most would say LEM trigger is pretty decent but why not just get a striker at that point ?
>>28098815
>At least it's not in the caliber it was originally designed for
>>28098815
>he doesn't like the P8
I know, the safety is reversed, but still, fuck your unlubed asshole with a fire hydrant.
>>28098822
Because HK didn't make a striker fired gun up until the VP9 came out besides the VP70 and P7.
>>28098829
Four-tay sucks, man. Just deal with it. 9mm is acceptable, but .45 is the gentleman's choice. At least when it comes to USPs
I often find I am hard while finger fucking my Walther.
CZ75 P-01
>>28098419
P99 is pretty damn sexy imho, and can be had for around $550
>>28098930
>posting the .40 version
>>28098945
>>28098930
Sup bra
>>28098908
>stop liking what I don't like
>>28098945
>>28098930
They are so close to being fucking beautiful, I just don't like the dot texture on the grips.
>>28098955
>sperging over a picture downloaded from google images.
>>28098964
Ayy. Ever notice how the bad guys in movies tend to have P99s? It pleases my inner narcissist.
>>28098972
Meh, the dots are nice, just the right mix of grip and comfort
>>28098930
>>28098945
I want a PPQ M1
>>28099028
Bond uses it in one of the newer movies too. You loving that AS trigger and paddle mag release? Because i know i am.
>>28098419
It's crap in global offensive.
>>28098930
>>28098945
Stop posting the ugly redesign, I'm eating.
>>28099063
Oh yea, I even bought snap caps so I can enjoy it at home. The paddle mag release is what sold it for me, I can eject the mag with my index finger without changing my grip
>>28099060
Great guns, I chose the P99 over it for the decocker and futuristic lines. I really hope they make a PPQ 45 with paddle mag release in the future.
>>28099170
They don't make the PPQ with the paddle release anymore do they? I like it, can't find one though.
>>28099165
>>28099170
>posting the unobtainable OD green version
That's just not fair. On the bright side Walther is bringing it back for the PPQ
>>28099170
>PPQ 45
There's always the SW99.
>>28099192
I think walther does small runs of them now and then. When they first announced the M2 they said they were dropping the paddle and people were pissed enough that they said that they'd continue making M1s.
For whatever it's worth the single action trigger on the P99 is mechanically identical to the PPQ trigger and they haven't released a P99 with a faggy button
Yum
I love the way your hand wraps around it
>>28099725
Is this a gun for ants?
>>28098419
PX4 Storm
CZ 75 SA
SP2022?
Styer model 17
sexy.
>>28098419
They were on sale at Buds awhile ago, 650 for the softest shooting Subcompact you could ask for.
>>28098815
Why it was designed for .40. Its also the best series of guns for shooting .40.
>mfw no 90 series
>>28098822
It has reduced recoil because of the heavier hammer spring. It also have a better break than any striker trigger out there.
>>28098908
.40 is fine in the USP, P2000, and P30. It shoots as soft as anything because of the buffer system.
>>28099739
The original (ant) colonies needed a well regulated and equipped militia
>>28099821
I love the looks of these guns, but I want one in .45
>>28098945
Do you buy from Nill with a catalog or custom order?
>>28098419
tomcat is best cat
>>28098419
This is the answer you are looking for OP. And the form is functional.
>>28098908
>gentleman's choice
>>28098419
P30SK
>>28099203
>literally a P99 with S&W logo on the handle
explain this shit
>>28100564
much obliged
Is there a good pistol that i can carry nicely in my pocket ?
>>28100126
Mein Nigga
>>28100586
>tfw working on HK collection
How can one company be so based?
P2000 is a great gun.
>trigger
Practice more with it and the trigger is fine (same for any gun).
My p2000 has been great. Only "issue" I've ever had is cheap ammo as a couple times prevented the slide from locking back on the last shot. Not a concern with quality ammo.
I paid $700 for mine.
>>28099856
>Girlfriend's getting me a v2 in .40 for Christmas
>Gonna swap just the firing ping block spring then carry it
I'm excited
>>28100654
My trigga. Only company I'll drop money on anymore...
>>28100687
Is that an LEM?
>>28100766
Yup, the heavy LEM. Apparently V1s aren't sold new anymore as far as I can tell, but it's just a matter of swapping out a couple of springs.
>>28100839
>V1s aren't sold new anymore as far as I can tell
Just type USP into slickguns. The V1 is by far the most common type. I bought one new a year ago.
>>28100876
Sorry, I'm referring to the P2000 V1. It's the lightest version of LEM.
The only time I see "P2000 V1" online is when it's sold by some random ass internet shop that doesn't have matching pictures and no actual specs on the page for the gun.
>>28100876
The USP V1 is different than the P2000/30 V1.
>>28100839
Yeah, the trigger spring is 8 lbs too, a lot of people change that out too. The hammer spring should be as heavy as possible since it helps to reduce recoil, and harder primer strikes.
>>28100575
S&W's first swing at the polymer market was more or less a miss, the Sigma is justifiably regarded as a bad gun.
So when Interarms was crumbling and looked to get bought out, Walther went looking for another US importer and S&W fit the bill. They've been happily paired until recently when Walther Arms was set up to import Umarex products to the US. S&W still imports as well I believe.
I don't know the reason why, but in the early 2000s S&W was permitted by Walther to manufacture some early P99 slides in .40. The rest of the pistol was entirely made by Walther in Germany, including the barrels, but S&W for some reason was allowed to manufacture some slides. They turned out pretty unreliable which gave Walther a bad name for a short time. Walther resumed complete production of .40 slides, but S&W was later licensed to produce what was essentially a rebranded P99, the SW99. It was pretty successfully marketed to law enforcement at the time, most of the used ones you see are LEO trade-ins.
Every single component except for the naked slide and barrel was made by Walther in Germany, with the barrel and slide being machined by S&W in the US. Walther created new molds to produce the alternate branded frames and new design for S&W.
Being produced by Walther, all parts are completely interchangeable between P99s with like trigger types. The key difference is that the SW99 came in a gorilla-sized .45 ACP variant which Walther never offered any handgun in until the PPQ45. The SW99 45 alone is not interchangeable with other P99 variants.
There is also the MR9 by Magnum Research. Same deal, every part made by Walther in Germany except for the slide and barrel, with a new design for the frame. The Radom P99 RAD, P99Q and PPQ are all different from one another and are not fully interchangeable with the P99, though the PPQ slide can function on a P99 frame.
>>28100930
>trigger spring
The trigger return spring?
I read up on the conversion on hkpro and a lot of people said the reset felt "weak" to them after putting the new spring in, even when they had for sure done it correctly. I figure i'll take baby steps with this one.
>>28100960
>S&W gets sued for copying Glock so hard that the parts were interchangeable
>S&W99 parts are interchangeable with P99 parts
Fuckin hell lmao
>>28100917
Sorry, you was responding to a picture of a USP and the post just listed all of them. I just assumed wrong.
>>28100930
Huh, I actually didn't realize that.
>>28098419
If it aint Sig or HK it's probably ugly af senpai.
>>28100999
You realize that S&W and Walther were actually really closely associated right?
>>28101053
Yeah, it's just funny to me that none of S&W's first forays into polymer were very original, one way or another, but now their polymer pistols are basically their flagship line
Makes sense, I guess.
>Held a PPS
>Didn't like how it felt
>Couldn't operate the mag release for shit
I was disappointed with myself. It looks too damn cool.
>>28100961
Whatever man, isn't there a name for what you are doing, named after some guy in Cali or something?
>>28101012
Yeah, the V1 for USP is safety/decocker models.
>>28101081
You are supposed to use your finger, why are people so retarded when it comes to this mag release.
>>28101161
Because it's shit.
Heel release and paddle release dumb as fuck. Go back to Europe you filthy commie.
>>28101172
No its not shit, learn to adapt to new superior techniques you fucking neanderthal.
>>28101210
>superior
k e k
Time to upgrade that glock, old man.
>>28101228
Yea, new buttoms are much bigger
>>28100999
SW99 is literally a P99, not a copy. It's made by Walther.
The Canik TP9 is a copy of a P99, only it's so crudely made that no parts are interchangeable.
>>28101081
Use your index finger, not your thumb.
>>28101228
>it still works from both sides even though a gorilla managed to bend it beyond its limit
>>28101349
>Use your index finger, not your thumb.
I tried, but it was pretty awkward to me. Now that I think about it, it's probably because I don't try to keep my grip high on the pistol, so I don't have a very good angle to reach the mag release with.
>>28100099
>OTs-38
That's neat looking.
>>28101348
Like the VP9?
>>28099165
Posting the green hillbilly version instead of the high-class dual tone.
>>28101411
Even though I don't care for the VP9, I will defend it this much:
It's the "volkspistol" or whatever. The pistol for the average guy. Not the guy who throws it like a hatchet six or seven times. It's not meant for military use so they didn't make it to that standard.
The mud and grit part was definitely a deal-killer, though. Damn shame.
>>28101437
>simple water dip
>fails
absolutely disgusting.
>>28101437
>The mud and grit part was definitely a deal-killer, though.
One test. One sample size.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghidy-kCR9E
The guy in the video is a faggot, but you get the point.
>>28101466
His fuckin eyebrows man. I never thought someone could flex their eyebrows, but fuck me in the ass and call me a bitch, the man flexes his eyebrows the entire clip.
Should I get a P2000 or USP9c for a compact carry gun? I'd want a light LEM for both, but with the USP9c I wouldn't be totally opposed to a match DA/SA and I'd just carry cocked and locked.
The P2000 is a sleeker design while the USP9c has the usual USP blockiness, but the USP9c has a better trigger in every regard to the P2000.
>>28101841
They're both pretty blocky for compacts. Look into the FNS9c and m&p9c.
>>28101841
It makes more sense to carry DA/SA if you want to try the LEM rather than SAO, at least if you're sticking with DA/SA. The point of LEM is to refine DA/SA anyways.
I carry a USPC9 fairly regularly. It's a great gun and conceals about as well as a G19, which I have also carried. The P2000 is a little more streamlined and trimmed down in a few areas and it has a light rail if that concerns you, but is basically the same gun.
The main advantage I see to the USPC is that it's easier to get sights for and can quite easily be converted by you or H&K for cheap to any other trigger/safety configuration of the USP family.
The main advantage I see to the P2000 is that it has a rail, grip panels if you find the USPC uncomfortable, and the decocker is pretty nifty, but you won't be able to switch trigger configurations like you can with the USPC.
>>28102250
All of my other HKs are V1 LEM so I'd want either LEM to be like the rest, but one of my main carry guns is my BHP so I'm already very familiar with SAO and carrying cocked and locked. That's why if I got a DA/SA I'd keep it cocked and locked as it'll already be just like what I already carry
>>28101418
>posting a BB gun instead of a real twotone P99 9mm
you know thats airshit, right?
>>28102163
They are fine unless you wear skinny jeans.
>>28102250
How do the usp/p2k decockers differ?
>>28102565
USP you press down on the safety kind of like a you would a SIG decocker lever and the P2000 is right beside the hammer like on the rest of HK's P series.
>>28102589
Familiar with P30 style. Don't they make DA/SA USPc's without safeties? Do those models preclude decockers?
>>28099077
>implying
![228-6[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IUdUhjb.jpg "228-6[1].jpg")
>>28102565
No safety at all on P2000s.
