Hey guys,
I saw this H&K Vector going for about $1600.
I couldn't find a forum with info on one or maybe I searched the wrong things.
The price seemed pretty high to me, though I don't know shit about it.
Is it worth buying?
It's made by Kriss, not HK.
>>28097784
Shit, my bad. It says it above the grip. Talking and typing doesn't mix well for me.
I don't know shit about this thing but doesn't that seem like a crazy amount of holdover for a close engagement weapon? POI seems like it would be pretty damn low
>>28097800
That's what I was thinking. I think I saw an MP5 and a UMP for considerably less.
You can't be serious.
That gun is fucking stupid in full auto.
It's entirely fucking retarded in semi.
Gimmicky piece of shit. Total waste of money.
Are we being raided by Kriss Industries employees? That's about 4th or 5th thread about this gun over this week alone.
>>28097973
I wasn't aware of any other threads. I just wanted to know if it's reliable or if there's something better.
>>28097996
>I wasn't aware of any other threads. I just wanted to know if it's reliable or if there's something better.
It has a retardedly short barrel for the size of the thing.
It weighs more than it should with the tiny barrel.
Upper to lower fit is horrendous.
The waggle causes large magazines to shake loose under fire.
It's a fucking stupid shitty gimmick.
STAY AWAY unless the only thing you care about is being a unique little snowflake. A yellow snowflake.
>>28098094
Really then? I'll trust you with that. I was looking for something other than an AR anyways.
>>28098094
>It's a fucking stupid shitty gimmick.
Agreed, a recoil mitigation system is pretty pointless on a semi auto "sub gun".
>>28097996
>I just wanted to know if it's reliable or if there's something better.
>something better.
Um... ya literally every other PCC or neutered "sub gun" is a better option than a semi auto vector.
Even if you did get your hands on a full retard vector I would rather have anything but.
You want an anon's opinion?
If your willing to spend 1,000+ shekels on a proprietary pistol caliber sub gun thingy then skip the gimmicky recoil system and get an IWI UZI PRO.
The vector is
>over hyped
>over sized for it's class and length
>over priced
>gimmicky as fuck
>everything >>28098094 said
>>28098374
Gotcha. Thanks for the info.
>>28098374
> uzi pro
why not a MPA MAC?
>>28097774
Just buy a based MP5 clone if you REALLY want to spend so much on a pistol caliber carbine. Its the same price so not so retarded.
(Buying semi auto subguns is still retarded though, since half the price is just because it looks like a famous weapon)
Honestly, just buy a pistol caliber carbine for $400 to $800. Does the same fuckin thing but its probably more accurate.
>>28097900
>extremely controllable recoil only matters in full auto guns
Wat?
>>28098094
>It has a retardedly short barrel for the size of the thing.
Who cares, it's not like handgun ammunition out of a slightly longer barrel will make much of a difference, at the most you'll gain 100 FPS when going from a 5.5" barrel to an 8" barrel.
>>28098374
>recoil mitigation only matters on full auto
Um, no.
>on a proprietary pistol caliber sub gun
Is there any other kind?
>over sized for it's class and length
It's slightly shorter than the HK UMP and the only additional bulk comes from some extra material between the the grip and magazine well.
>>28098404
The UZI PRO just tickles my dick and I'll admit I was completely ignorant of the MPA930DMG existence until very recently.
Now I have a better option tickling that "civilian PDW" spot.
>>28098947
Does it piss lead while dragging the muzzle to the sky? No it doesn't, because it's a fucking semi auto.
So if it doesn't piss lead and have an insane muzzle climb issue do you really benefit from a recoil mitigation system?
Sure it keeps you on target... but if you can't keep a semi auto PCC on target for follow up shots without a recoil system, you should quit guns right now.
Inclusion, I carry the opinion that recoil mitigation are fucking pointless in semi auto PCC's.
Therefor I suggested any other gun in this class, specifically the UZI PRO cause it tickles my fancy.
Sue me, sperglord.
>>28097774
i have an early commercial model.
it's a nice little carbine that fits handily in a backpack, but i find that the stock is flimsy and that the magazine catch should be improved for the greater weight of a fully loaded 30 round magpul one.
that being said, it's very easy to keep on target, it's quite accurate and likes hot ammunition. because it's effectively a blowback action, there isn't much that it can't feed. some people have had ejection issues (i haven't) though.
i happen to like mine. compared to my USC/UMP and SP89 i think i would prefer the SP89 with a stock.
>>28099119
Yeah, I can keep a semi auto rifle in .308 on target, that doesn't mean that other options with less recoil won't be much faster. The Kriss's mechanism reduces recoil by about 60% and would most certainly make a difference in followup shot speed on semi auto. For comparison, when going from .308 to 5.56 there's only about a 50% reduction in recoil and if they made the Kriss in 9mm the recoil would be comparable to a .22 rifle.
