Are there any civilians radars that track military planes, like Flighttracker?
Is that illegal? Would you get bombed?
>>28080535
Perhaps I am retarded but for some reason I have always been under the impression civilian radar can't see aircraft rather it sees their transponders. As such, no, it couldn't see military aircraft that either don't have them/have them turned off
Is this correct?
>>28080535
FCC regs probably.
>>28080599
Well I mean in Syria for example. If some group set up a radar on Turkey's border or something and just "livestreamed" radar of the airspace.
>>28080609
I think you would get bombed and/or HARM'd fairly quickly
>>28080584
>it couldn't see military aircraft that either don't have them/have them turned off
Military planes that turn off their transponders get shot.
Fast.
No IFF, no authority to fly. And before "but the government would know and say it's okay" no, no they wouldn't.
>Worked with military radar and proforma tracking for five years.
>>28080584
I'm pretty sure any ATC can see aircraft without transponders. They are only there for identification codes and altitude/speed information. the actual position is gathered from radar reflections.
>>28080584
I'm assuming they don't but have different codes and shit.
>>28080640
>>28080660
So I am sort of but mostly not really right then
Good to know
>>28080609
A radar capable of anything significant is the sort of thing towed by large vehicles and powered by really beefy generators.
picture a stereotypical sam site without the missiles and perhaps a lower tech, but still huge, radar.
.....you guys do know how radar works right? It sends out a signal and 1 billionth of a return gets sent back. Transponders what to do with altitudes and squawk codes and for the military IFF
>>28080714
Not really you just point it in a direction and shoot waves out and you basically get a small blip or a big blip.
>>28080535
I don't see why not
>>28080703
something to note is that flying in mode c required or class c airspace without a transponder will get you a response based on how fast you are going if no visual is available.
It makes sense because GA aircraft can be intercepted by helicopters and escorted. Sometimes there isnt even an escort, just a phone call waiting for you on the ground. They only want to send a jet if you're going fast enough to be an actual jet.
Flying in simple mode c required airspace without a transponder will most likely get you a phone call unless you spooked someone important.
>>28080584
>Perhaps I am retarded but for some reason I have always been under the impression civilian radar can't see aircraft rather it sees their transponders.
By and large, you're correct. That's not to say that there's no such thing as a civilian primary radar, but they're not very common due to the hurdles associated with acquiring one and the lack of necessity.
>>28080609
That would just motivate the Syrian government to disrupt internet access near the Turkish border.
>>28080640
>Claims to have worked with military radar
>Apparently unaware of encrypted military transponder modes
>>28080660
No, secondary radar doesn't rely on reflections at all. Position data is inferred from the interrogation-and-response time between the radar station and the transponder. If the transponder is off, ATC can't see it (unless they happen to have primary radar equipment as well).
>>28080599
yeah im sure the bands the military used are either monitored, or very difficult to get on
