so what is /k/ going to do with all their stockpiles of banned ammo after the ban on all AP rifle ammo is lifted in 7 days?
H.Amdt.341 — 114th Congress (2015-2016)
None of the funds made available by this Act may be used to treat ammunition as armor piercing for purposes of chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, except for ammunition designed and intended for use in a handgun (in accordance with 18 U.S.C. section 921(a)(17)).
Sponsor: Rep. Massie, Thomas [R-KY-4] (Offered 06/03/2015)
i smell some corrosive steel core Chinese 762x39 flooding back into the states.
>>28080386
And that shit really smells.
>>28080401
its the mercury fulminate primer? no?
took apart some of my 7n6. powder burnt without a smell
>>28080353
black tip 308 and m855a1
awww yuss
>>28080353 the money grubbing kikes are moving to their next victim host
>>28080510
is your mom coming over?
>>28080353
>so what is /k/ going to do with all their stockpiles of banned ammo after the ban on all AP rifle ammo is lifted in 7 days?
Considering that I'm not an ammo dealer and the ban never impacted my ability to sell... Nothing.
>>28080353
>except for ammunition designed and intended for use in a handgun
so what's actually changed?
>>28080353
But isn't that just reiterating what is already the law? This changes literally nothing.
>>28080500
100% of M855A1 EPR is manufactured for the government, you're not going to find it on the consumer market any time soon regardless.
All of it you can find now is ammo that someone snuck off the range and sold at a gunshow or gave to a friend.
>>28080386
wont happen fuckhead
chinese import bans on all guns and ammo from china still in effect
read a fucking book
>>28080353
>except for ammunition designed and intended for use in a handgun
so nothing changes... The reason it was banned is because they (ATF) decided since handguns in those calibers existed the ammunition was considered designed and intended for use in a handgun.
I'll believe this shit when it happens.
>>28080832
https://youtu.be/1d4C1ZQKmw4
>>28080353
Will I get cheap 7.62 x 25 again??? Please, please, please.
>>28080825
If the Chinks were smart they'd rent a warehouse in Cambodia or some shit and ship ammo out of it as TotallynotChinese Inc. ammo.
>>28082138
>except for ammo designed for use in handguns
>>28080825
Dumbfuck cocksucker, Norinco isn't the only ammo maker in China, or weapons maker hence where all the faux saiga 12 fury shotguns came from, asshole.
>>28080783
Then M995 dumbass, there you.
>>28082203
My excitement blinded me. God damn it.
>>28082230
Actually they are. Norinco is the state arms monopoly. ALL export guns and ammo go through them regardless of the stamp on it.
>>28080353
Does this mean 7n6 is back?
>>28082687
no because somewhere there might be a pistol variant in another country. somewhere.
>>28082701
>rifle cartridge
Wrong.
Stupid fuck asshole, this whole bill was put in place because of the 7n6 ban, go fuck a pine cone.
>>28082838
don't be so mad little buttfuck I love 5.45 as much if not more than you.
faggot.
>>28082847
You're the stupid faggot too high off your HIV pills to realize this bill was put in place to reverse the ATF's fuckery, Sorry you pissed away 200 bucks on 7n6 cans while panic buying. Better start selling it off while retards like you still believe this shit, nigger.
>>28082885
>>28082847
>>28082838
what the fuck am I reading
>>28082894
The writings and ravings of the mentally diseased.
>>28082894
A stupid jenkem huffing nigger that thinks the bill put in place to release the import ban of 7n6 does not apply to 7n6.
>>28082894
he's crazy if he thinks it's going to be .11/rnd anytime soon.
>>28082941
My local store still sells 7n6 cans for 210 bucks. Thats around .07 a round.
>>28082937
>>28082885
>You're the stupid faggot too high off your HIV pills...
>A stupid jenkem huffing nigger...
You have quite the way with words.
>>28082973
uhhh do that math again
>>28082973
>7n6 cans for 210 bucks
cans or crates?
because it was about 11c/r when I was paying 270 per crate including shipping
>>28083005
this ain't 1999 anymore
>>28083023
that was 2010
>>28083034
>>28083023
there
>>28083044
oh shit
>>28083059
yeah... it was pretty awesome
that was the year that I didn't even buy guns, I basically just stacked 545 and 54r ammo with my gun budget
>>28083072
oh god, i hope that shit comes back; I'd buy something in 5.45 instantaneously.
>>28083110
Don't count on it at those prices to come back, but I hope so too.
IIRC, ak-74s weren't much of a thing yet when ammo was that cheap, now they're all over the place.
I'll keep stocking up. Yawn.
>>28083133
Maryland ffl transfer fees are out of this world; I'd go after a 5.45 barrel for an ar desu senpai. I would love some slavlove but it's just not happening here thanks to O'malley's legacy
op here.
If you read the disgussion on accepting this amendment, to me it seems like they are removing entirely the loup hole the atf uses to ban AP rifle ammo... which is how the chinease stuff got banned
" The clear text of the statute, in my opinion, excludes rifle rounds,
but what has happened is recently, the ATF--now, this is only one
example that I have recently--they proposed to ban the green tip
ammunition, otherwise known as M855 or SS109. This is 223, also known
as 556 ammunition. Well, there was a lot of public backlash, and so
they backed off of that.
What a lot of people don't know is they already did ban some
ammunition with this flawed interpretation. They banned the 7N6, which
is a 5.45 by 39 round, and so it was a mistake that happened, and we
need to correct this mistake.
We need to prevent future mistakes. The best way to do this is to
withhold funding for flawed interpretations."
read more here
https://www.congress.gov/amendment/114th-congress/house-amendment/341/text
Tungsten penetrators when?
>>28083225
So is 7n6 banned still or no? Because it's reading like it's now not banned.
there was a ban?
i bought some ap .30-06 a while ago
sauce on the ban lift?
>>28083252
hope not, gives me more reason to give my 47 a 74 buddy
I'll believe this when steelcore 545 and 762 is coming off the boats and making it to sellers.
>>28083225
chinese ammo still may not be coming back, but maybe that's just norinco on that list? IDK the exact details there.
But there should be loads of other surplus steel cored 762x39 ammo in the world.
>>28083252
Yes, very much so.
>>28083257
There is a ban on "pistol" ammunition.
>>28083225
I thought norinco stuff was specifically import banned because of a gang scandal.
>>28080353
Here's the bill this amendment was tacked on to:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/2578
>>28083252
this is an amendment that was attached to a funding bill as a rider which was supposted to pass in october. everyone was flipping their shit about planned parenthood so congress couldnt figure shit out so instead of passing this funding bill they passed a stopgap funding bill which expires dec 10 midnight.
Therefore inorder for the gov to not get shut down this bill has to pass and will likely not change coz the entire focus of debate will be on government funded abortion clinics
>>28083302
So the question is... does norinco make all that ammo? or are non-banned companies going to be able to unload cheap ammo like it was the 80s and early 90s again...
>>28083302
maybe im not entirely sure.
i thought it was banned for the exact same reason 5.45 was (some company named olympic made a 7.62 pistol)
you might still be right that norinco was banned by name earlier.
>>28083318
P.S., you can thank Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky for representing our interests in this matter.
Also of interest: this amendment was agreed upon 250-171.
>>28083344
norinco was banned because they sold military equipment or something to our enemies, not because their guns or ammo were too scary
so it hasn't passed yet?
the president will veto this
>>28083390
it's a rider to a must-pass budget. It'll pass.
>>28083377
>>28083344
>>28083334
It was 2 events that sealed the deal for norinco. The first was a gunrunning sting that the ATF conducted. The second was when the did something with Iran.
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,135999,00.html#
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2931154.stm
>>28083390
Obama hasn't vetoed much (look it up), and it wouldn't look so good if he vetoed the
>Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2016
that its appended to.
>>28083414
i feel like because of what happened in cali he would go out of his way to veto it
>just ordered some XM193 in case of ammo ban here in commiefornia
>see this
Well this stuff is probably banned here anyways, but I'm still crying
>>28083390
>obama will veto an entire bill for one tiny amendment he won't read
>just like he did with the CMP 1911s
>>28080386
My AK is ready.
>>28083454
but he wan't so salty from cali
>>28083414
>Obama hasn't vetoed much
Because he just had Harry Reid kill everything in the Senate.
>>28083454
>just like the Hughes Amendment
Can't wait until the anti-gun politicians do this to us too
>>28080353
Won't make a difference, it's pretty much the same law that has been in place and the ATF will have the same policy aboot it
>>28083485
I want that old kike, fienstein and boxer to die off already.
>>28083530
Pelosi, Maxine Waters and Feinstein Jr are standing ready to take up the torches, but nuking San Fran would fix most of the problems with this country.
>>28083548
San Fran, and LA
>>28083530
unfortunately there is no rest for the wicked and that old jewbag fienstein is definitely demon possessed.
>>28083569
the worst LA politicians live in San Fran.
>>28083198
I got a 5.45 AR I been tryin to get rid of. You want slavlove that bad?
>>28083661
If it's not an Arsenal you can shove that POS up your ass.
Why don't law makers use this kind of fuckery to make laws that actually matter?
>>28083677
Nigger did I say AK or AR
>>28083679
>Bringing AP ammo to the masses doesn't matter
Get the fuck off /k/. I'm sure laws that matter to you include more gibsmedats to Johnny Dindu and Spicy El Nunez.
>>28083692
>5.45 AR
You're stuck with that bad choice for life, scrub.
>>28083713
>Implying 5.45 in an AR is bad
Wew lad, almost got me
>>28082701
>designed and intended
>>28083723
>Implying it's good
Nice try Huckleberry.
>>28083749
>Not wanting a round that's cheaper, with arguably better lethality and comparable ballistics
>Muh Aye-R only shoot NAYTO
I sure am a fudd eh?
>>28083723
i was thinking about this, too. if its $1000 for a decent ak-47 why not just buy a basic ar lower and slap on a decent 5.45 upper? cheaper than an slr and works just as well, plus youre saving almost 10 cents per round.
>>28083779
>Its soooo good
>Please buy mine
Calling people fudds because they don't want to buy your mistake is poor form.
>>28080421
Mercuric primers haven't been used since the 30ies.
>>28083792
Because the guy said he might look at one? Shit, my bad if I talk to someone. I guess I shouldn't shit up your board huh senpai?
>>28082838
>Stupid fuck asshole
>Go fuck a pinecone
Lost for no reason at 7am here while waiting for my flight out of Polan
Top jej I will use that one on someone sometime
>>28083804
We're talking about AKs here sonny. 5.45 ARs are one of the few times where people from both AR/AK general will tell you you dun goofed.
>>28083786
I've shot both, for the range and having fun the AR is cheaper and works perfectly fine with all the benefits of 5.45 and modularity over an AK. I'm only replacing mine because I need a larger caliber hunting rifle
>>28083819
You have anything to back that up with other than
>Muh purity
>Fuck you
?
>>28083821
is keyholeing a common problem with 5.45 ar's?
>>28080825
>all guns
No you dumb nigger you should read the book
>>28083847
Never had it happen with mine, nor have I ever heard of that from anyone using a decent 5.45 upper. I'm running 7N6 out of a Huldra Arms upper though, so I can't speak too much for the others like Adams and Olympia
>>28083833
>You must like it! You must be a Purist FUDD!
Is it's fucking dumb something you can't accept?
>>28080353
>intended for used in a handgun
>doesnt define this further
Okay so the ATF keeps declaring everything pistol rounds
>>28083883
>Yo man, here's a cool niche thing that gets you the best of both worlds with no real noticeable flaws
>"That's fucking stupid"
>On what basis?
>"IT'S FUCKING STUPID"
>>28083918
This. It's literally just restating the same thing that is already on the books.
>>28083926
>Yo man, here's a cool niche thing that gets you the best of both worlds with no real noticeable flaws
>Cost more than an Arsenal
>Need to get custom mags or kit bash 5.56 mags
>Very uncommon parts, meaning maintenance will cost more than 5.56 counterparts
>Proven to make owners into flaming homosexuals (See: you)
>>28083938
>Arsenal 1000-1200+ MSRP
>Huldra Arms upper, 590 MSRP
>Parts aren't exactly uncommon, and most parts interchangeable with any other AR-15
>Magazines available everywhere online, or can just be loaded into a 5.56 magazine
Are you going to make an actual argument or just continue getting mad?
>>28083880
Where are you? How much?
>>28083938
>Cost more than an Arsenal
$600 for the upper and $200 for the lower compared to a $1k arsenal plus ~10 cents per round
>Need to get custom mags or kit bash 5.56 mags
$13 mags arent a big deal
>Very uncommon parts, meaning maintenance will cost more than 5.56 counterparts
only like three parts are different than the 5.56 counterpart, none are particularly expensive compared to their 5.56 counterpart
>>28083984
South Florida, probably somewhere just under 800 with a single mag
>>28084005
>>28083984
Mag and case, fuck my typing
>>28083969
>Huldra Arms upper, 590 MSRP
I didn't know an Upper was an entire firearm,retard.
>Parts aren't exactly uncommon
Really? Because I've never seen one in a store or gunshow, or anywhere in person besides the internet.
>Magazines available everywhere online
Really?
>Atlantic
No
>Brownells
One type, out of stock
>Budsgunshop
No
>Basspro
No
>Apex
No
>Sportsman
No
>Gunclip depot
No
>or can just be loaded into a 5.56 magazine
Not without converting
Stop being upset that no one wants your POS. The same one that you claimed you were off loading.
, or can just be loaded into a 5.56 magazine
>>28084005
sell it for 600
I'll throw in a anderson arms lower.
>>28084040
http:// www. midwayusa. com/product/250661/ar-stoner-magazine-ar-15-545x39mm-russian-30-round-with-anti-tilt-follower-stainless-steel-black
http:// www .jgsales. com/asc-ar-15-5.45x39-30rd-magazine,-black-stainless,-new.-p-6908.html
You don't look very hard do you? Took me about 7 seconds
>Not buying most things online anyways
Lol, what a fucking tard
>The upper isn't the whole firearm!
Well, it's the most expensive part... A full lower with a stock isn't exactly expensive or hard to get
Here's one more bite kid, unless you want me to google more things for you
>>28084047
Stripped or with a parts kit installed?
>>28084076
Stripped. I'm not going balls deep on a used gun with 1 mag.
>>28084076
>Wanting a complete lower for some POS
Can't wait to see your ad on an Armslist thread!
>>28084090
Eh, don't really need a stripped lower around . And I don't think I'd get rid of a rifle and case for the price of an upper when I've put less than 500 rounds through it
