FN SCAR
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Just got my hands on this baby with NV, fella gunfags were hella mad jelly. Why haven't you accustomed yourself to the fucking future of operating yet, /k/?
>>28077558
Because I am already in the future.
>Just got my hands on this baby
>posts google image
SCAR owners on suicide watch. Newfag BTFO
>>28077558
Because I don't need to pay a $1,000 extra premium to shoot 5.56
>>28077575
Lacks lancer magazine to be honest family
>>28077558
>Why haven't you accustomed yourself to the fucking future of operating yet, /k/?
Because the future isn't really any better than most of the past? and has a gigantic pricetag that can't be justified?
The 308 model is really the only one I feel is relevant at all(if you ignore the $2900 price), just because it's another relatively comfortable 308 battle rifle to pick from.
Held them, they're nice, but not 2000-3000 nice.
>>28077609
I really need to get some Lancers.
They ship it with whatever random GI mag they have laying around. I have seen OKAY, Bushhy, and Colt so far. Straight from the factory.
They are straight up surplus beat to shit mags. It is hilarious.
Its nice but for that much cash there are better quality and specced rifles out there.
>>28077616
Yeah, actually thought it was pretty overpriced compared to AR's, but the general feeling, lightness and the easiness of the field strip compared to AR was enjoyable. Gotta decide which rifle to buy that isn't my service rifle and I'm gonna opt for a cheap AR, but if I had some extra $$$ lying around, I'd go or the SCAR with a 10" barrel in a second. Just the general ease of use was fucking amazing and I will never see that thing again in service cause nope, no SOF for you man. Fuck I'm mad.
>>28077685
>but the general feeling, lightness and the easiness of the field strip compared to AR was enjoyable
Agreed. I loved it... But weighing one expensive gun vs a few guns and/or/with years of shooting ammo for me.... I can't even come close to making myself do it.
I'm a buy once cry once guy and am willing to spend the cash to get what I want, but when you are getting close to 3000, you better dazzle the shit out of me.
To me, it's a nice gun, but it doesn't do enough better than anything else for that kind of cash.
Objectively speaking, it's just another semi auto that goes bang and hits what I'm aiming at. That and it's too new to have history and/or be cool to me, so it looses a few points there.
>>28077558
Better have been the 17s faggot or you done fucked up big time. I love my 17s, but it's almost the same $3000 price tag for the 16 that literally does nothing better than a $1000 colt AR.
>>28077558
I don't want to live in the future where my operational operations rely on that objectively unbalanced blockstrosity.
As if it wasn't bad enough already, I've got to fight the reciprocating charging handle in tight spaces.
If there wasn't anything wrong with the gun, I'd still probably avoid it since they cost $950 more than they need to for 'MADE IN BELGIUM'.
I have a Scar 16S on my list, in fact, it'll likely be my next big purchase.
>>28078303
Get the 17s or an AR. Or get the 16 and kill yourself for being retarded.
FN makes rad shit. cash be damned
>>28078542
waffleboo pls leave.
17 is the only decent product in that image. full barrel semi-auto p90 in particular is a horrendous waste.
>>28078872
Might be moving states next year so i'm waiting on the SBR
>>28077558
Why did FN make the charging handle reciprocate? Why even have it on the left side if it can break your thumb if you hold the rifle wrong? It just seems like such a silly thing to overlook, especially when FN's flagship gun, which was designed in the 40's, had a non-reciprocating charging handle.
I don't get it.
>>28079137
its reversible
eliminates the need for gubmints dumbass requirement for a forward assist
>>28078542
>FN makes rad shit.
Except they dont. The FNP45 was littered with issues from under sized magazines, to malformed barrels, to trigger pins which would walk out. They did fix all these problems in the FNX45, but refuse to fix any of the FNP45s.
>>28079137
>Why did FN make the charging handle reciprocate
Because that's precisely what the military asked for.
>>28078361
>Get the 17s or an AR.
Why would I get the 17s? I don't want a semi-auto .308, I want a semi-auto 5.56.
>>28077966
>>28078361
I like it when people say ignorant things like this because it lets me know I'm dealing with a complete and utter imbecile.
>Why haven't you accustomed yourself to the fucking future of operating yet
Because I'm still stuck in the Cold War era of operating
>>28079199
>not wanting to be real neato
>>28079193
Why did the pentagon want it that way?
>>28079227
>>28079163
army thinks designing something so shitty you need an extra button to smash it back into battery is a good idea
>>28079227
SOCOM did. There were several iterations of feedback from end user focus groups with mixed views on a lot of features. This led to several changes and even reversions (the firing selector orientation for example,) however the final consensus resulted in a favorable desire for the reciprocating charging handle.
The FNAC proposition (intended for general issue) offered a non reciprocating version, the same as the current CSR submission. The same capability can be installed on any SCAR by means of conversion kit.
>>28079137
Because it's simple and lets you see the condition of your bolt without even having to look at the ejection port.
Locked back? Empty mag
Not fully seated? Hit it forward.
Didn't work? Stovepipe. Rack and clear.
Mid way? Failure to extract. Rack and clear.
Repeated mid way? Double feed. Remove magazine, rack and clear.
But they decided that they would cater to you anyway with the FNAC submission and in the CSR and SSR.
>>28079225
Maybe I'll just get an ACR instead. :^)
>>28079242
Wat. The charging handle mounted on the left side of the weapon enables you to lock the bolt with one hand. Releasing it is the same as the AR with the added ability to slingshot or kickstart the weapon with the integral forward assist.
>>28079294
I'm just saying forward assists are a bandaid for your weapon being a piece of shit.
ie, AR 15
>>28079330
There are a host situations and adverse conditions where a forward assist becomes more than just beneficial. Having one directly mounted to the bolt carrier only improves your ability to use it effectively. Your opinions are asinine and flat out wrong.
>>28079137
Also in 2003 vertical grips were the hottest shit. Look at the promo material from the time and you can see them on the SCARs all the time. Holding things by the magazine well was supposed to be on its way out.
There's also the fact that you don't hold guns with your thumb up like a retard.
Do it. Put your thumb up on the back of your pistol and complain about your poor thumb.
Stick your thumbs up when using a crossbow and complain about the skin flying off when the string flayed you.
Grip the exposed barrel because you want more muzzle control and complain when it burns your hands.
So who was the smarty who decided you should have a terrible training habit?
After all, if you shoot an AR left handed with your rifle with your right thumb up... guess what happens at the ejection port? It's especially clear when the dust cover is closed.
>>28079374
is that why the FAL, AK, and G3 all have one?
Oh wait, its a stupid device on only one piece of shit designed by a retard that thinks blowing gas directly into the action is a good idea.
>>28079392
>if you shoot an AR left handed with your rifle with your right thumb up... guess what happens at the ejection port?
Nothing.
t. Lefty & AR shooter
>>28079416
>is that why the FAL, AK, and G3 all have one?
Yes, that's exactly why they all have one. Pro tip: it's the charging handle.
>>28079137
>Why did FN make the charging handle reciprocate?
because kickstarting your rifle looks more manly than mortaring it.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzBdyubc0Uk
>Why even have it on the left side if it can break your thumb if you hold the rifle wrong?
first, it's reversible, second, don't hold your rifle the wrong way.
![left-side-ar15-ejection-port-problem-0[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RHzlA1L.jpg "left-side-ar15-ejection-port-problem-0[1].jpg")
>>28079430
Yes. I believe you Mr. Airsoft shooter.
>>28079461
I have plenty of real guns, m8. I even [spoiler]sold my AR-15[/spoiler] so I could buy a [spoiler]Mini-14[/spoiler] and honestly, I don't have any [spoiler]regrets.[/spoiler]
>>28077558
Because its still a semi auto rifle that shoots 5.56/308. Its a gigantic waste of money. All you're doing is paying 3k for gimmicks and to be a special snowflake. You can build a rifle for 1/3 of the price that would perform the same.
>>28079432
G3 charging handle could be used as a forward assist
nofuns detected
>>28079522
Wow! So can the SCAR's, AK's, and (some variants of) the FAL.
>>28079569
the point is that it could not be used for that you fucking dumbass
It's how America won Vietnam.
>>28079185
thanks for beta testing sucker
>>28079580
Assuming you're >>28079522, you literally just repeated what I said in >>28079432 and are trying to make an argument of it. Also, if you had clearly read >>28079374 you would that at no time was the "point" you are referencing stated. Quite the opposite in fact. Its become visibly apparent by now that your reading and logical comprehension ability is severely lacking.
>>28079595
man thats a good photoshop
>>28079659
holy fuck confirmed noguns
Go ahead and explain both how a G3/PTR-91/CETME cocking lever can do anything but open the action.
then go ahead and explain why an AR-15 needs a forward assist unlike every other design from that era, and in what "host[s] [of situations] ...it is more than beneficial"
if you're going to talk about reading comprehension at least proofread your typing you stupid fuck
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyHOG36U_WU&t=2m40s
If an AR15 is out of battery you cannot split it open.
>>28079733
>Go ahead and explain..
No, I'm done trying to reason with the learning impaired. Having a forward assist is necessary for a combat rifle. The SCAR's charging handle just so happens to double as its forward assist, the same as many similar designs. I'm sorry these simple facts present such a challenge for you.
>>28079819
The 'forward assist' is only on one piece of shit as a separate feature.
You want to know why? because it is not fucking needed.
>>28079819
also please tell me all about your combat experience, and what your engineering background was before you actually did something with a rifle outside of circlejerking yourself on the internet
>>28079856
>What’s not so well known is how then-Pfc. Patrick Miller earned a Silver Star for keeping his M16 from jamming long enough to take out an enemy mortar position.
>“We were taking fire from everywhere,” Sgt. Miller recalled in a recent Army Times interview.
>Enemy fire had knocked out his five-ton truck, forcing him to fight on foot.
>He dove for cover behind a dirt berm and spotted an Iraqi soldier manning a mortar position across the road.
>“It looked like he was trying to drop the shell in the tube. That is when I fired the first shot and the guy went down.”
>When he pulled the trigger again, nothing happened.
>“After the first shot, the round ejected. When the next round went to go in, it froze up,” he said. “It didn’t feed all the way into the chamber.”
>Miller pounded on the forward assist, a tiny plunger on the M16’s receiver designed to manually push the weapon’s bolt into the chamber.
>He fired his rifle once more, and it jammed again. Miller tried the immediate action drill he learned in Basic Combat Training — he slapped the bottom of the magazine to reseat it, pulled the charging handle back to look into the chamber. When he released, the bolt wouldn’t chamber the next round.
>Changing magazines didn’t work either.
>“After the third magazine I decided it took longer to change mags than to beat on the forward assist,” he said.
>That worked, but his weapon would only fire a single shot and jam again.
>“I was beating that thing with the palm of my hand four or five times for each round,” he recalled.
>>28079682
it's not a shoop though
>>28079970
site source includes piece of shit rifle
where's the story about how someone needed to smash their bolt into battery with the charging handle on a non AR-15 pattern rifle?
go ahead, I'll wait
>>28079888
>>28079819
>>28079659
>>28079137
ITT: people who care more about thumbnails they might lose if they hold a rifle like a retard than about more quickly and easily clearing jams and misfeeds.
The future is here gayfagz
>>28080955
>VFZ mount
why
Overpriced, non modular AR
>>28080987
>SCAR
>not modular
Kek
>>28077558
Welcome to the club, enjoy your stay.
>>28077558
Well shit, I just made this a week ago.
>>28082927
That's really nice. I like that.
>>28079137
>Why even have it on the left side if it can break your thumb if you hold the rifle wrong?
It won't, it'll just not cycle properly. I've experienced SCAR thumb in .308 form along with a friend. We still have two thumbs.
>>28077609
lancer are the best mags out there hands down
>>28080939
got a black 17s last month how did you go about panting yours OD
>>28080939
>>28080955
>>28084412
>SCAR
>anything but .308
>anything but FDE
Profligates.
>>28084799
>>28084412
naw it looks good in black and i might paint it OD green also i got it in .308
