calling all old fags
has the state of the world, be it gun laws, gun violence, wars, mass murderers and other social issues always been this prevalent?
Im sick of kids my age talking like this is all just a sudden thing and would like some insight. Or has the world always sucked?
>>28066456
>has the state of the world, be it gun laws, gun violence, wars, mass murderers and other social issues always been this prevalent?
Ever hear of a little thing called "The Hundred-Years' War"?
>>28066456
The number of violent deaths and conflicts in relation to the number of people on the planet is lower than ever.
The 20th century was far more violent, even discounting the major set-piece wars, than the 21st century has been.
The "Syrian Refugee Crisis" is a hilarious, trifling drop in the bucket compared to the rivers of blood that were flowing in Rwanda, the Congo, and Central African Republic barely 20 years ago.
The prevalence of media and especially first hand video of every little injustice and 'atrocity' has increased the sense of violence and mayhem even though there is less than ever.
Surprise Surprise, people's perceptions don't match reality.
>>28066456
36 y/o here, yes and no
the world has always had problems. mass murders aren't new, sleazy politics isn't new,gun control isn't new (but we have more people fighting for guns now then I remember) SJW's and their issues aren't new. IMO, the big difference is
>internet
social media is based around everything now. I don't need to hear what the folks on twitter are saying about jack shit. Its lazy journalism and needs to stop.
>kids are given way to much credit
in relation the internet, nobody knows how to tell somebody to shut up anymore. IMO its all from the "every get s trophy, NOBODY LOSES :D :D" crap generation that's now grown and doesn't know how to be an adult so they blog and tweet and "protest" thinking theyre going to actually make a difference when theyre really just sitting on their hands and acting like children
the world sucks when you grow up, part of that is just shrugging it off and dealing with it and trying to enjoy what you have. Welcome to it
>>28066456
There's what? around 6 thousand years of recorded history, minimum?
There were wars back then
There were rapes back then
There were burglaries, assassinations, stabbings, mass executions, and kidnapping and tortures back then
Shit has always happened. Always, from the start. I assure, at some point in the beginning of mankind, someone killed someone else somehow, over some dumb little shit (probably more valid back then, since you actually had to do so to survive, but you get the point)
Back then, it was sharp rocks. Then arrows. Then sharpened steel. Then explosives, chemical warfare, projectiles, and all sorts of things.
Nothing's changed. The game is the same. We're just playing with better graphics, is all. So if you meant to ask if bad stuff happened in the past? Yes. And it'll always happen. I'd say it's just part of humanity, but no. That's life. Life is shit. And shit happens. If people choose to stand by and watch, that's up to them.
>>28066516
this
>>28066581
>36 is old now
Fuck me
>>28066456
As far as all that shit goes, I'd hesitantly say that it's never been better these days.
Sure there are problems now and yeah they're pretty big, but looking back there's pretty much always been way worse shit happening.
>>28066456
if this is about the shooting in CA, then yes people have been mass murderers before and poloticnas try to pass bullshit laws to appease the upset public. crack open a history book
most violent crime is on the decline, but the media and everyone having a camera makes it seem like the wild west
that being said, I carry a glock 17 and have a 30 rnd back up mag in my car. Am I paranoid, maybe but I like to think im prepared
>>28066588
>Nothing's changed. The game is the same.
war.
war never changes
>>28066456
The crime in the US has more than halved since 1993
Think about that. That's absolutely fucking nuts. Shit's never been better in the US.
If this is about today's attack, they only blow it up because it's rare and it gets ratings. Pure and simple.
>>28066456
Every piece of data says it's worse. We just have a direct link to it live.
>>28066516
>>28066588
These.
>>28066456
First of all being old doesn't into being an oldfag.
I'm 30 so I'm practically a grandpa here, and I've off and on 4 Chan since I was 19 or 20, can't even remember.
To answer your question tho, no crime rates have significantly decreased while police budgets and incarceration rates have increased. The "war on drugs" is a major factor, prohibition 2.0.
You can blame the media and Internet for making people aware instantaneously of anything that happens anywhere. Shit has always happened, it just wasn't broadcasted or #hashtag twatted about.
>Tldr
No your generation sucks ass and whines hard.
N.A.S.A Grandpa here, Overall everything is much better than it was in the 40's and 50's, The SJW problem, while not completely new is pretty fucking bad and freedom of speech is currently getting wrecked, Seriously who the fuck thought "free" speech zones were a good Idea. When my son told me about that shit I damn near blew a lid. Modern feminism is a fucking joke and a pretty big threat but we will get passed it. There will always be problems but no one has the hide to deal with it any more. The large majority of the modern generation has paper skin. People believe that words can hurt you now and because they believe that it lets it happen. The only way to live is to stay positive and do your best to make the change you want. Politics are pretty fucked up now day's all over the world. Merkel especially disgusts me. Stay strong and don't bow to those who think freedom of speech should be limited, that is the way you can instantly write off any movement as bad. If they don't believe in completely free speech tel them to fuck themselves.
>>28066456
The Odyssey was written in the 8th century B.C. and it contains some of the most graphic violence I have ever read. The version presented to school children has been completely neutered of all violence, and thus any real reason to take interest in it. The only reason The Odyssey survived the sands of time was surely it's noteworthy violent content. Conclusion: humanity has always been violent.
EVERYONE: This article answers every question in this thread
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/12/the_world_is_not_falling_apart_the_trend_lines_reveal_an_increasingly_peaceful.html
>>28068393
So to be an asshat and tl;dr this:
>People aren't able to put up with shit, so now they while about it, and that whining has been given a fucking megaphone by the internet.
>>28068522
Bingo, there will always be whiners its just that the skin is thinner and the shout box is louder.
In this country at least, the greatest problem is the media.
Not only are they causing mass shootings. The attention they give them make it seem like gun violence is at an all time high, which it isn't.
>>28068518
>victimization of children in school on the rise
I blame this solely on Michael Obama's school lunch program
>>28068567
I don't believe this graph for a second, my son was pretty fucking seriously bulled in grade-middle school, I think that it just does not get reported as often with kids no longer able to take care of the bullies themselves.
>>28068614
So much this.
When I was 6 years old a boy punched me and I ran and told my dad. His response, "well, go punch him back". So I did, won the fight, and we actually became friends afterwards.
Today's generation: call the cops, call the school board, call the Pentagon, call the Vatican, call the national guard: my son Timmy was called a faggot #stopbullying wah wah wah.
>>28069129
I told my son to hit them back after they ignored him reporting it for the 6th time but it is a bureaucracy now with them having to fill out a fucking 2 page report if they wanna report bullying but wanna know what happened when he hit back? He got suspended for 2 weeks and nearly got the cops called on him for "assault" fuck the public school system.
>>28069246
Should of told him to punch back but not at school. Or at least after school let out. You know the old "meet me in the parking lot or playground after school".
Anyway I remember after I fought my bully he invited me to his house to play mortal kombat. This was in the 90's he had a sega Genesis.
Then we touched weiners.
Jk. Maybe.
>>28066456
Not an oldfag, but
>Say not, “Why were the former days better than these?” For it is not from wisdom that you ask this.
>Ecclesiastes 7:10
I want to say it is a common misconception.
>>28066516
>>28066588
Yeah these.
Seriously look into the wars that went on in Africa. It was fucking insane. Combined, it was practically WW2 down there but from the 70s-early 2000s.
>>28066456
>has the state of the world, be it gun laws, gun violence, wars, mass murderers and other social issues always been this prevalent?
The world has always sucked. Hard.
Terrorist attacks happened back 20 years ago.
Revolutions, coup d'etats, civil wars.
Social issues were getting frazzled everywhere.
The only good thing today? There's LESS violence and crime in the United States now than there was 20 years ago.
>>28071274
>>28071978
Look up the death counts, faglord.
>>28066456
The chance of me being nuked by the USSR is currently 0. This was not the case when I was born.
I'll take today's world over that one.
>>28071994
>brown or black people
>their life matters
#Blacklivesmatter plz go.
>>28066456
The police brutality native best sums up the state of the world, "it's not that these things didn't happen before. They happened everyday. However now with the advance of technology every person is a reporter with a camera in their pocket. So while we as a society continue to progress and improve the media is flooded with more stories of wrong doing them ever before. So despite the fact that things are better then ever, you hear it's worse. Only because more people are yelling then ever before.
>>28066588
>Shit has always happened. Always, from the start. I assure, at some point in the beginning of mankind, someone killed someone else somehow, over some dumb little shit (probably more valid back then, since you actually had to do so to survive, but you get the point)
>And Cain said to Abel his brother: Let us go forth abroad. And when they were in the field, Cain rose up against his brother Abel, and slew him.
Literally four chapters in.
>>28066456
>has the state of the world, be it gun laws, gun violence, wars, mass murderers and other social issues always been this prevalent?
Yes
>Im sick of kids my age talking like this is all just a sudden thing and would like some insight. Or has the world always sucked?
This is true of pretty much ever generation. The only difference is greater communication and larger population.
>>28068393
>N.A.S.A Grandpa here
What's the NASA part mean? You were around for the first moon landing? That's all I can guess.
>>28072053
He is the moon
>>28072053
Worked for nasa in 69. This pic has been posted a Couple of times now with my son being an avid shit poster and me mostly lurking. I know my son posted this pic yesterday but I don't feel like taking a pic of my wrinkly old hands right now.
>>28072200
I'm the 30 year old shitfuck earlier in this bread.
You're officially /k/'s grandpa now. Create a trip.
>>28072320
Never As I have stated before both me and my son refuse to shit up the board with a trip, if you can provide a legitimate reason that I should maybe.
>>28072389
Just fooling with you old timer. I'd actually hate it if you did create a trip.
I like talking to you older guys. It's a rarity.like I said I'm 30, you know it's just us and tweens who watch hungry games twilight, right?
>>28072200
>I came to 4chan for child pornography and doubles
>and I just posted my last doubles
>>28072426
Really so your saying that I shouldn't do this?
>>28072441
Couldn't get dubz.
Plebsauce.
>>28072441
Eww, Child porn is disgusting. You should know space grandpa prefers all forms of /d/.
>>28072449
Space grandpa? Actually chuckled.
It's your life. Do you and I'll do me.
>>28072461
>2015
>not into child porn
Reddit really is a thing...
>>28072462
And I don't think I will start tripping, maybe but I don't really see the point. It actually kind of counters the whole point with everything on here being a work of fiction and what not.
>>28066456
Looking at history, really the only thing that's changed, ever, is that we've become more adept at harnessing other forms of energy to do our work.
Oh yeah, and since about 1952, we've had the capability to blast the planet into a hellish irradiated moonscape, and take out almost the entire thing with us.
>>28072451
Was quoting cosmic grandfather who rolled double doubles.
>>28072531
Huh, didn't even notice that.
>>28072503
You worked at NASA. I'm just a sand box infantry vet.
Who gives a flying shit what these basement dwellers think.
I'm a fucking olderfag than them, and Anime is shit for losers, like hardcore losers.
>inb4 this is a anime board
>inb4 Mootikins
>>28072567
Ehh, I don't think anything is for losers. Hell I watch gravity falls with my niece and have actually really gotten into the show. Fuck hirsch he is the god damn king of hiatuses. My life long view has been that as long as it does no bad to me then you can do whatever the fuck you want.
>>28072608
Well then you're a beta grandpa.
I'll let you give head to young boys.
Wink.
>>28072645
it has been decided, there is enough cancer that one more trip will not tip the scales. And with that space grandpa is born.
>>28072645
Also I think your missing this /s...
48 yr old oldfag here.
Things are about the same (minus the Isis shit).
Syria is not the end of the world. Shit has been going down in that area of town since the Crusaders turned up.
Massacres and bombings are more or less the same. I think that the 24hr news cycle has made the reporting more hysterical and the sudden appearance of "experts" is just a way to fill in air time.
Check out some very recent modern history that would have broken the interweb if it was around then. Mostly forgotten about now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Airways_Flight_163
>>28072685
>>28072705
Penis suckers..
Don't be ashamed. I was a /b/tard before the war.
.
42yo here, life has never been as good as today. what changed is the perception and entitlement of people. today everybody seems to think that they deserve something without even having tried or actually done shit. a lot of things are presented as if everybody is entitled to have them without working for them. but to say that the current youngfag generation is worse than others before is also a misconception. today people just have the means to be very vocal and tell fucking everybody what they think, this makes them believe that their opinion matters, which is not the case at all.
>>28072772
>>28072774
ding ding.
>>28072725
>(minus the Isis shit)
they're a little different but before that you had the RAF (both), ETA, brigade rosso, FLN, cendero luminoso, abu nidal, various palestinian fags hijacking airplanes all the time and about two dozen other small time groups.
just check out how many terrorist attacks happened in paris in the 70s and 80s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_European_Union
>>28072389
>>28072200
If you see this text while scrolling the first page, you have been visited by the NASA GRANDPA of shitposting and doubles.
Successful moon landings and government funding will come to you, but only if you post
THANK BASED GRANdPA in this thread.
>>28072725
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing
Holy crap, I had a grade school teacher who mentioned that the bombing of some Marines was what prompted the US govt to start really interfering in the middle east at a military level.
I could never remember what it was called or figure out how to look it up. Thank you.
>>28073226
>implying that's true
always funny how dumb people are unable to do basic research
>>28073371
Ahmed, raped any little boys today?
>>28066456
crime is at record lows
terrorism is at an all time 'germany in the balkans-tier' high
SJW Kucks apologize for both dindus and sand niggers
The US government thinks its a great idea to run through everyones shit, along with every other government
but they let snackbars in the country and they still commit terrorism despite the NSA "keeping us safe"
>>28066456
>has the world always sucked?
Yes. If anything, the world sucks less now than during much of human history.
I actually talked with my granddad about this once. He went on about how he went through similar shit in the mid to late 60s. Wars, shady government shit, social movements, violent social movements, ect. It was a time of stress and paranoia and he started carrying a gun on him since korea. Then he rode it out and things got better. Its like how franklin said every country needs a revolution every 20 or so years, we have little social turmoils to shake things up. It just sucks because right now things in retrospect aren't even all that bad, and the things that are would seem better if people could just calm the fuck down and pull their heads out of their asses
TDRL, learn to stop giving a shit, and in time it will all be a memory
