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http://www.ammoland.com/2015/11/obama-signs-ndaa-dcm-to-sell-surplus-45s/#axzz3siYDq0FH
CMP to sell surplus 1911 and 1911A1 pistols and their parts and accessories to the public.
>>28047491
Oh look a genuine H A P P E N I N G thread
cool beans
Does this mean cheaper 1911s? I might just have to get one if the price drops a bit lower
Based Obama handing out guns
I see that these rumors are common, does anyone truly have a chance at passively picking one of these up? It seems like it might be a bit tentative.
When I search it looks like it's been a filthy, single-stacked wet dream for some time.
>>28048246
No you fucking idiot
>based
>obama
pick one
>>28048246
More like Obama forced to hand out cheap guns, salt levels in white house at record high. More at 11.
>>28047491
I was happy to see that. I raged when it got vetoed the first time, was about to dust off my rope.
>>28048286
>>28048285
>Obama gives out military grade pistols, just like the one neo-Nazis just used to gun down innocent black protestors
>Psychos demand machine guns and no background checks
This must be the slippery slope you gun nuts love to talk about so much
>>28048438
>Dr. Faget
Sound about right for a trip.
Git out.
>>28047491
>mfw those old fudds with their original 2-3k 1911s are going to be pissed when the value is going to plummet
I've seen this story for a while but where in the hell are they going to be sold?
>>28048813
exactly
>>28048246
Obama's salt level: lot's wife
Welcome to last week OP
Now we wait a year or so. Just renewed my club membership however.
>>28048531
Unless the CMP has to grind off all the markings before they can distribute them.
>>28048813
>>28048823
Can you not read? http://thecmp.org
>>28048246
>>28048285
>>28048828
>>28048286
See I told you guys
I TOLD YOU
If we rebelled long enough they would be forced to support us and call us freedom fighters
>>28048844
Why
>>28048965
Why does the government do half the retarded shit they do? Because we suck, and they hate us.
>>28048965
becuase they don't
CMP doesn't deface any militarily surplus they sell, they have no reason to and the DoD doesn't make them. If a marking is gone, it's becuase the entire piece that it was on was damaged and had to be replaced.
>>28048177
Cheaper only if you get it through the CMP. I expect prices to stay the same everywhere else
>>28048813
>where is the CMP going to sell guns?
gee anon, I dunno.
>>28048976
>Why does the government do half the retarded shit they do?
the cmp isn't the government. It's pretty specifically not the government. The cmp first started to arm civilians who couldn't afford guns otherwise. Y'know, that's why it's called the Civilian Marksmanship Program.
What club can I join that isn't shit and qualifies for CMP?
>>28049465
The CMP was part of the government, specifically the DoD, until 1996.
>>28049473
Don't do the one here
>fuck metallurgist
Check your local ranges/fun stores/smiths
>>28049473
Garand collectors association is the go to club. Just pay the dues.
>>28049514
you can't join something that doesn't exsist.
The old /k/lub was perfectly fine though. The majority of people just joined to buy shit (no dues at that), only a few participated in activities (which was shit post on the forum). The only issue people had with it is that you had to gave some random guy your address.
>>28047491
Great, now sell us the surplus m4s, m16s and whatnot.
Obama signed it so why don't you guys give him credit? Everything else you gave him credit for
Aren't the slides on these not heat treated or something? Leading to cracking at a relatively early round count? Or is that just hearsay?
Why does no one realize what's so obvious about this?
"Guys look, I signed this bill that allowed for the sale of these handguns you really want. See? I told you I'm not after your guns, but I did you a favor and I'm clearly pro gun, so you're gonna have to do me a favor and let me have this next one on rifles okay?
But its okay guys, you don't need these HIGH POWER ASSAULT CHILD MURDERIFLES, I gave you these guns, see, guns are cool!"
Now I can legitimately say "Thanks Obama"
>>28047491
>obama offers guns to the public
"obama wants to take our guns!"
>>28049585
Obama gave nothing.
When there is a bill that gets passed or removed, first look at what you lost.
>This was in the NDAA
>This means there was something else in the NDAA that Obama wanted MORE than he hates guns.
this might be a bad sign. Or the calm before the storm.
>>28049539
can't really pull that shit when his administration already stated that they opposed it. It's obvious they didn't oppose it enough to stop the military from having a budget.
>>28049004
They might stamp them. Like they did to the garand stocks back in the day.
>>28049450
They'll mark them some how so they can see how many are used in crimes.
>>28049763
That's a DAS done by DoD, not CMP and has nothing to do with coming to civilian market.
>>28048897
WHOOOOOOOOOOOO!
>>28049533
I remember hearing roughly that in reference to some Marine 1911s. Need more info plox
So uh how do I get one without cmp?
>>28049510
What happens in 1996?
>>28049533
idiot
>>28049763
It;s called a serial number.
To purchase from CMP don't you have to be a member of a club or something? I have a C&R and I can't buy from them. What do?
>>28049763
That's not a CMP stamp you trip nigger.
He either:
A) Doesn't care
B) Sees the futility in opposing it
C) Cares about the other shit in the bill
D) Is scoring brownie points
Or any combination of the above
>>28050649
There are internet clubs that exist solely for this purpose.
Garand Collectors Association is one of them.
>>28050809
E) Passed it without reading the bill with just a nod from his advisers just like every politician
Any idea how I can get my hands on one? My local CMP is through 4-H and only does air rifles and .22 and says it's "limited membership".
>>28049763
>>28049911
>>28050778
>>28050495
another day, another retarded trip BTFO
>>28050206
Clinton threw a fit about it.
Does anyone have a guess as to what these will sell for? They are pretty much just old ragged out 1911's are they going to cost much more than like $300? if so fuck it they can keep them i will go buy another polymer gun.
>>28053242
I have heard anywhere between 400-1000 depending on grade
>>28048285
>tfw Obama has done more for gun rights than many republican presidents
>>28047491
Wasn't this called fake since the CMP charter limits how many guns they can sell per year as well as FFL transfers?
I've seen this passed along on social media and a lot of people are calling BS since this rumor has been floating around for a year.
Supposedly the demofucks cut the 1911 addition out of the NDAA.
>>28047491
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/12/ndaa-guns_n_7265184.html
THINK OF THE CHILLUNS.
>>28051008
get your terminology right: it's not a trip, it's a namefag. There is no tripcode.
Obama once again proves himself the greatest gun salesman of all time. Also, get ready for expanded background checks via executive order soon.
>>28047491
I am legit surprised he signed it. Was this attached to some other bill that he had to sign?
Singer 1911 anyone?
>>28054473
It was attached to a massive defense spending bill. If he was even aware this was in there, there was enough where he would not veto the bill just to kill this.
Sometimes shady politics work out favorably.
>>28047491
Unless any of them are original national match guns in great shape I'm not personally interested.
Good news though.
>>28050969
What could he do about it? Keep vetoing NDAA? Wouldn't it just get overruled by Congress?
>>28054123
Excuse me what
>>28054212
For the one millionth time. This eliminates all of the bullshit limiting the CMP to .22 and .30 cal rifles. The never had any limit on how many guns they could sell per year. They can now sell any military surplus firearms and the Army is specifically required to hand over the M1911s
>>28056084
i abhore the guy but technically that is true. shit hasn't been passed not that he hasn't stepped on the backs of dead people trying, but more people own guns now than before 2008.
also look at what reagan did closing down the machine gun registry.
>>28057900
Reagan and Bush Sr. passed alot of import bans too
>>28056084
I think he meant sales. Must have been what he meant. Nobody's that stupid.
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are they?
>>28057932
Most of what Obama has tried to do backfired pretty hard on him. He managed to strengthen gun rights in an ass backwards way
>>28056084
>signed laws allowing carrying on Amtrak and federal parks
>chose not to try and restart the awb
>authorized the cmp 1911s
>>28056084
>for all the talk of gun control, he hasn't actually done shit
>passed some under the radar decent gun laws
>giving out 1911s
>all his talk of gun control sparked a huge surge of gun sales and people being interested in guns than Ive ever seen
whether he did it accidently or is just lazy with his work is up to you. I think he's a sneaky bullshitter but this time it worked in our favor
Damn, i just bought this remington rand for $700 and figured id be able to resale it for much more this will put a big damper in that plan
Forgive my ignorance on the matter, but if I could, say, drive two hours and be in one of the cmp retail stores, would they require me to be in one of these clubs still?
>>28058158
>yfw Obama is secretly for unrestricted gun ownership and is really just trying to galvanize support
We can hope right?
>>28058343
Yes. Join the Garand Collectors Assossciation. The GCA is national affiliate of the CMP
>>28058227
kek
>>28048438
You said the word slippery, is something on your mind?
>>28057982
>chose not to try and restart the awb
he endorsed feinstein's proposal after sandy hook
when does this bill go into effect
>>28049525
Nope, sent to Israel, Iraq, and other allies with shit budgets.
>>28053242
>Not buying a 1911 that possibly removed a gook...
Still, fat chance of having one that did, but still...
Ruskies have nuggets. We get a ping machine and this.
>>28056084
Bro, do you own more guns now than you did in 2008? If so, thank Obama.
>>28059466
Eventually though those should be on the market they did the same shit with the M1 and it went obsolete and now we get em.
>>28059544
Can't. CMP is limited to selling .30 cal rifles right now. Even if they weren't, they couldn't sell machine guns to the public. Same reason we don't get surplus M14s
Hopefully we'll get some furniture kits, or if we're super lucky, some worn to fuck uppers.
>>28054107
>I have heard anywhere between 400-1000 depending on grade
welp im out id pay $300 for one in decent shootable shape but thats it. If i spend $1,000 on a 1911 it's not going to be a GI model from the 40's.
>>28049516
>Garand collectors association is the go to club. Just pay the dues.
Yep. GCA and get your C&R FFL and you're good to go. Imagining Feinstein having an anuerysm when an organization chartered by the federal government sends a US Army surplus semiauto rifle (and now handgun) directly to my front door....it makes me feel so snuggly inside.
>>28059673
Pistols are going to have to go through an FFL.
>>28050030
>So uh how do I get one without cmp?
You wait for someone who bought one from the CMP to decide he doesn't want it any more and decides to sell it, and hope you hear about it first.
>>28048438
>This must be the slippery slope you gun nuts love to talk about so much
fuck the slope, jump off the jungle gym and repeal the NFA and Huges Amendment
>i never get to use this gif
>>28050649
C&R counts towards "marksmanship or other firearms-related activity." That plus the $25/year Garand Collector's Association fills the two hardest qualifications. I'm sure you can dig up a birth certificate or passport or whatever to fulfill the others.
>>28048897
>>28054123
Greetings, visitor from an alternate reality.
>>28059694
I have a C&R FFL.
>>28055675
How dare you make my dick twitch
>>28059729
firearms activity sign off sheet can be filled by anyone who witnesses you go through it. You can even bullshit it and they wouldn't know since they don't check
>tfw milfag and dont have to join organization to get funs mailed DIRECTLY TO MY DOOR
is this what america feels like? Feels america.
>>28049696
This.
>>28059769
Hello.
You didn't want those FA guns anyway.
>>28059828
fuck the gipper
>>28050778
Except it is, you raging thundercunt
>>28059617
and the best ones like M45 MEU(SOC) builds will be auctioned individually
>>28059996
Except it's not, you raging thundercunt. Pic related is the CMP cartouche they put on new production stocks. That Garand had a DoD stamp
>>28047491
OMG OMG OMG SO YOU'RE SAYING I CAN BUY AN M1 GARAND *AAAAAAND* A 1911 FOR MY BIRTHDAY?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>28059814
well, you technically had to join the military.
So let me get things straight. I have to:
1. Join a club, pay 25-60 a month to be a part of it until they're available;
2. pay their premium price in a market will treat them like costco to buy them up and sell them at normal prices
>I just looked at the ammo price for a gun I bought ammo for 2 years ago, the fucking ammo is 290% higher now
>>28060412
From how deep in your ass did you get that shit from?
You can join whatever the fuck club you want and there are ones that are free. GCA is 25 a year and you can join whenever you want.
If you think CMP prices are premium then you've never looked at the market. They also don't buy guns, the guns are donated to them, and they don't sell them for profit. They are a non profit organization that promotes marksmanship and firearms safety.
http://www.alloutdoor.com/2015/08/18/why-you-wont-buy-a-1911-pistol-from-the-cmp-any-time-soon/
Relax, we won't be getting these anytime soon. Or even ever.
>>28061067
>literally too retarded to read his own link
>>28061080
nvm it was outdated info. I am indeed a retard http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/11/25/breaking-news-it-is-now-law-the-cmp-can-sell-1911s-to-the-public-a-thanksgiving-day-miracle/
>>28059617
They were used up until the 80s.
>>28047491
What happened to the real Obama? Who is this doppelganger in his place?
>>28059828
>>28059855
If it wasn't for Reagan you wouldn't have your Nugget.
(seriously- the ban on importing milsurp was lifted in 1986)
>>28047491
What are the chances of winning this you think? Today's my brithday, they better give it to me.
>>28061652
He had no choice but to sign this bill. Too much important shit was in it for both sides. It would be political suicide not to pass it.
We also get more detainment in Guantanamo without a trial and extension of NSA domestic surveillance powers out of the same bill, among a huge amount of other shit
>>28047491
>Obama confuses millions of Americans
Is what the headline should read.
>>28048286
>Obama force to hand out guns
Yeah, the raging neckbeards and fudds of America would have revolted if he didn't do this.
How deep are you in that bubble?
>>28062179
>would have revolted if he didn't do this.
Just like when he put the kibosh on the Korean Garands!
>people are pissed but the public at large doesn't give a shit, then everyone forgets about it
>>28049463
>>28049473
>>28050649
>>28059821
>>28049696
>so much assumptions and paranoia based on feels and no facts
Again conservatives demonstrate that their "we use only logic and reason" argument is so much bullshit.
So seriously speaking, is the 1911 market about to drop dramatically? Like I've been considering buying a Remington R1 for $450 this month, but if they're gonna be worthless once floods of $500 USGI 1911s hit the streets I'd probably wait.
>>28058382
ive thought about this, but I think its more a case of a typical politician talking out of his ass to appease voters
>guns are ebil, lets get em off our streets for AMERICA :D :D :D
and then he doesn't do anything because he's got more important shit to deal with. If that state of the world wasn't as shitty as it is he could have been the worst gun grabbing president of all time
>>28062237
What about the marksmanship activity requirement they list?
>>28062285
I doubt it. Most of these pistols are totally shot out, unless the CMP rebuilds them. Either way, you'd probably get a better deal buying a new, decent commercial pistol for less rather than paying the GI premium.
>>28061772
I would not call that a fair trade...
>>28062294
a carry permit will suffice
>>28061772
>Bans all new full auto firearms, forever
>But it's all cool since you can own the worst mainstream milsurp bolt action rifle
>>28062337
CMP doesn't sell junk. Even the Rack Grades are just a new barrel away from being a good shooter.
>>28062380
Carcano is the worse milsurp bolt action ever.
>>28062337
>Most of these pistols are totally shot out
Sauce?
>>28062410
An assumption of facts and scuttlebutt from service members who had them in Vietnam and after.
They made almost all of them during ww2. Then used the things until the 80s.
So it stands to reason that the rifling is worn down. The springs are weak. The friction surfaces are worn. Pitting from some minor rust.
But CMP will take care of them.
>>28062370
So I can get a permit at 19 here, so I can buy a Garand because of my permit before I can legally buy my own handgun.
>>28048177
>mfw no nearby gun clubs to get CMP affiliation
>mfw any nearby gun clubs are either 2 hours away or high school JROTC
>>28062541
Do some fucking research you mongoloid. There are national clubs
>>28062465
Yes, any license to carry is fine. Also, federal law states that you can own and carry a handgun at 18yo. You just have to buy it through private sale or be gifted it. You cannot buy ammo until 21, however.
>>28061067
Your article is from august m8, the bill was passed last week.
>>28063071
I did a couple merit badges 5 years ago having to do with guns, think that would count?
>>28063468
I just had a range officer sign a piece of paper that said I wasn't a total mongoloid. I don't even think they check it, just as long as the sheet is filled out.
>>28063468
No. Has to be accredited by a state agency or approved business. Do what
>>28063776
>>28059996
Am I being detained?
>>28063776
I just had a friend sign.
It's not like they check
>>28063956
Sounds like you could be charged with fraud if they ever did check.
>>28048246
If you stop to really think about it Obama really is the greatest gun salesman of all time. He sparks retards into panic buying anything he even looks at salt rifles funny.
>>28064259
Kek they won't unless you end up doing something retarded with it and they are forced to cover their ass. Luckily most of the mouth breathers and mongoloids of the gun community don't even know about the cmp.
