>be bong
>sign up for army reserve
>one of the first parade nights, did a weapons lesson
>held one of these bad girls
>dong fully expanded
Anyone on here own one? I've yet to see an American L85 owner, do you like it?
I don't think civvie versions of those exist, and if they do, I don't think any ever made it to Freedomland.
>>28030551
It's fun when you hold your weapon for the first time, after a while your weapon becomes your worst enemy, until you have to use it to shoot an enemy lol.
>>28030570
Some did, saw one on gunbroker a while back.
>>28030551
No export models exist. The bong government is incredibly anti fun. I think RSAF Enfield is the only gun manufacturer in Britain
>>28030570
would you get one if you could?
>>28030579
Are you British army by any chance, I noticed that a lot of the soldiers called them "weapons" or "weapon systems" a lot as opposed to just rifle, unless that's a worldwide military thing or just your preference idk.
>>28030596
>would you get one if you could?
Uncrtain, I already have a bullpup that I haven't even fired yet because it didn't come with irons and I don't currently have the money to purchase an optic for it.
>>28030579
Yeah, I remember in bootcamp when we first got issued them we had a lot of people in my platoon who had never touched a gun in their life who were having a grand ole time.
That lasted until about the first time we did 'form for PT'
When you're not drilling with them like I was it becomes basically like a child.
It's heavy, you carry it everywhere, you clean it, take care of it and not even god can save you if you lose it.
It's not all it's cracked up to be. Similarly, using weapons as part of the military has really opened my eyes up to how much punishment they can really take and similarly, how much people here baby their weapons.
>>28030551
I don't know how to break this to you, but the L85 is widely considered garbage, and the L85A2 only barely usable garbage. Not even Brit SF use it.
>>28031236
Why so?
Not arguing but I just want to know if I'm going to be using this rifle, what specifically would you say is bad about it?
![comparison_of_AR18_and_Enfield_L85_bolt_assembly_shows_the_clear_linage[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/COp5u14.jpg "comparison_of_AR18_and_Enfield_L85_bolt_assembly_shows_the_clear_linage[1].jpg")
A good majority (I think about 85-90%) of the old L85s and what-not were destroyed by the British government instead of being exported. Or so I remember hearing. Crushed 'em and what-not.
Meh, you could probably make your own semi-auto version. Internals are pretty much almost identical to an AR-18/early AR-180 (the ones that actually look like a semi-auto only AR-18). Just get some stamped sheet steel pieces together and build it from the ground up. With help from a gunsmith, of course.
>Anyone on here own one?
Are you joking? There's like four in private hands in the world.
>>28031236
>Not even Brit SF use it.
>>28031236
More brainless parroted horseshit.
>>28031707
I saw someone selling it locally in New Mexico for ~$28,000. Had to do a doubletake. ON armslist of all places
>>28030589
Accuracy International
>>28031700
>A good majority (I think about 85-90%) of the old L85s
See, I know you're just making that up because there's no such thing as an "old L85". They've never been replaced.
>>28030589
>I think RSAF Enfield is the only gun manufacturer in Britain
That company hasn't existed since 1988.
Christ is /k/ really this ignorant? Really?
>>28030589
RSAF doesn't exist anymore. Royal Ordnance, who owned RSAF Enfield and RSAF Nottingham was bought by BAE and both factories were closed by 2001.
Part of the old Nottingham plant is where HK's UK office is - they handle basically all international sales outside of the US and Germany
>>28031775
Why place your company's office into a country where you can't even sell your merchandise?
>>28031142
>not even god can save you if you lose it.
How could you possibly loose it? Do you drop it when you are tired on a walk or something?
>>28030596
the screws in training will always refer to every single weapon as a weapon system and and will make you do push ups or reference a tree and make you crawl to it if you refer to it as a gun. the habit just stays with you.
>>28031784
>implying HK make their money selling to civilians
top kek
>>28031737
The L85A1 was replaced by the HK designed L85A2.
It wasn't just some modifications to existing rifles they manufactured completely new ones and got rid of all the A1s
>>28030551
Congratulations, bonganon, you have an Elle.
I would an Elle if I could an Elle.
>>28031700
>Just get some stamped sheet steel pieces together and build it from the ground up. With help from a gunsmith, of course.
You mean engineer the design from the ground up, with lots of money, time, and resources, of course
>>28031826
>It wasn't just some modifications to existing rifles
That's exactly what it was.
>>28031747
What about Holland & Holland? They make incredibly sexy guns
>>28030596
>would you get one if you could?
Fuck yeah, if I had the dosh, why not?
>STANAG
>army surplus parts
>interesting concept
>MUH ARMALITE
>they finally fucking fixed the issues
>I'm right handed
>pikt rails
>>28030551
>has the rails and bipod foregrip
>still has SUSAT
gopping desu senpai
>>28031823
>Implying HK is making money
Kek they're going bankrupt just like Colt
>>28030596
>would you get one if you could?
yessir I would. They get shit on a lot but I don't care
>>28031735
A stretch, but BSA (now owned by Gamo) and maybe Lanner Tactical too, dunno how much they manufacture in the UK to get around the whole weird permanently-section-5-firearm deal.
>>28031784
>missing the bit where the UK is the 6th largest arms exporter in the world
>>28031966
What's it being replaced by?
>>28031737
>what is an L85A1
You a bong?
>>28031717
Notice that 3/4 guns in the pic aren't L85s...
>>28031737
dumbass alert
>>28032061
Well one of the four is the Chinook's ramp gun; so that's not used by UKSF at all.
The SA80 in that picture is probably more prolific in UKSF that the LWRC UCIW that the guy on the left is carrying.
>>28031142
Lose your rifle?
how the fuck could anyone do that, it is always withing arms reach.
>>28032037
The SUSAT got replaced by ELCAN Specter OS4x.
The British version has a few modifications like a bespoke reticule and an enlarged rain-hood over the objective lens, and they're fitted with a Shield CQB red-dot sight on top.
It's called the Lightweight Day Sight (LDS) in British service.
>>28031872
The other option is go full sci-fi and make your own housing using a laser-sintered metal 3D printer, like those guys who 3D printed a metal (and functional) 1911. I mean, there's probably shit-tons of SA80 platform 3D models online that you could use. A hell of a lot more expensive, though.
>>28032069
How stupid are you? The L85 was never retired, no guns were taken out of service, the L85A1 was upgraded to the L85A2, that's it.
>>28032045
L85A1's weren't scrapped.
>>28032173
>it is always withing arms reach.
not for the sorts that would lose it
>>28032182
Christ the decked out L85A2 is beautiful
As an aside here's a British NCO that got shot through the neck, you can see the entry and exit through his larynx. Fucking insane huh.
>>28032173
Creatures like this are why I'm glad I own guns.
>>28032261
>Christ the decked out L85A2 is beautiful
Can put even more shit on it desu senpai
>>28032257
>>28032311
Alas the digital fire control system in pic related proved to be too heavy so only a few sets have been issued.
The LLM-01 has also been replaced by the Mk.3 version (LLM Vario Ray) but I don't have any good pics of one of those fitted along with the L123 UGL
>>28031717
>Those puppers
>>28032311
Gee, George, TWO sights?
>>28032408
Eotech is on a side mount for the UGL.
>>28030551
There are less than 6 L85s in private hands and there will probably never be anymore. The factory that made them shutdown and the Germans had to mod them into the A2 version. Once they start falling apart (which is likely due to amount of use they got in Afghanistan) we will need a new service rifle. When they are ducked they are likely to be scrapped or given to a bunch of goat fuckers to fight whatever regime we don't like at the time.
>>28032423
I figured. But still, there's a reflex sight on that spectre which is already 1x capable.
>>28032408
Looks like three if thats a mrd on top the main sight.
>>28031793
>>28032173
People in training are insanely stressed out, and do a lot of stupid shit; not because they're inherently stupid, but because that's how much stress they're under.
If you hunt around you'll find videos of people misplacing all sorts of shit, like their grenade.
Shit, I read a story a few days ago about an Anon who lost his Humvee.
>>28032261
Aside from the entirely reasonable amount of fear in his eyes, this guy's looking bretty good for someone who just TOOK A BULLET TO THE FUCKING THROAT.
>>28032533
if people can forget where they parked when they're not stressed just imagine what they do when they are
>>28032533
I was in the armed forces, one of the first things that got painfully drilled into us was to always keep the rifle within arms reach. After the first few weeks of basic training that lesson stuck even with the densest dumbasses within the unit.
>>28032521
The Specter we use is the fixed 4x magnification one, not the "DR" version
>>28032659
Gay
>>28030596
We called them "weapons" and "weapons systems" in the American Army too.
>>28030551
Only a small batch got into the US in the 80's so they are extremely expensive and impossible to find. Also from what I've hard it isn't particularly a great rifle and the only people who seem to defend them are the Bongs (who 99% of the time have no experience with firearms unless formerly served in their military). Because of this nobody except the bongs who as previously stated have never used another rifle have used one, because of this we have no unbiased way to tell if they are any good.
>>28031142
>>28031793
>>28032173
In my experience, losing weapons (at least in the Marines) Has a lot to do with going to the head. In bootcamp and at MCT you are not allowed to take weapons into the head. because people have pulled the ole full-metal jacket if you catch my drift.
What you're supposed to do is pass it off to another recruit/marine. But there's always some lazy shit that just leaves it with his other gear and before you know it another asshole picks it up because we're staging our gear somewhere else or they don't want an instructor to see an unattended weapon and then asshole comes back and is all "Where the fuck is my weapon"
And that's how you get a 6105.
Likely just a few NFA versions floating around that will not see the light of gunbroker for some time.
Maybe some day some company will do repros, like the Stg
>>28032688
It's $1000 cheaper and lighter, and the red dot on the spectre has a different poi and its not a true 1x. Osx4 with a red dot on top is a superior cheaper system. Honestly 4x is low enough power to use up close anyhow
I believe there are 2 legit NFA samples in the US. I forget the company, but somebody made a SA80/L85 kit for sale in the US. I've seen several of these come up for sale around $2000 completed on Gunbroker.
I've considered buying one when they pop up, but I have other priorities.
>>28030551
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/02/08/build-your-own-enfield-sa80-soon/
An article on a parts kit a company made. There's a link to their website in the article. Have fun, goyim.
>>28036407
Oops, I'm an idiot. Turns out those kits never actually made it into production. I don't know what I'm thinking about.
>>28036496
They never got produced. Apparently the website that were going to produce them is shady as shit and produces awful products. Ian did a review on their CETME-L receiver, and it was so far out of spec that is basically didn't work.
>>28036514
Yea, I went and clicked on it and saw complete shit. I, again, was a normal tripfag. Sorry guys.
>>28031717
Just going to leave this here....
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/07/robert-farago/uk-royal-marines-swap-sa80-a2-for-colt-canada-c8-diemaco/
Sterling was planning on making a semi version for the UK market but that was before '88.
>>28030551
Its a pretty poor firearm in comparison to what we (Ameriburgers) can own and freely purchase. Now the L1A1/FAL is something we can fap about.
>>28032261
Fukkin brutal.
Reminder for all Brit-fags reading this:
If you havent, please find and join your local gun club.
It is great fun.
Encourage all your friends and family as well.
The more people shooting, the better
>>28036567
Except it's a load of shit and RM are still using the SA80 just like everyone else.
>>28032559
Bet it was 9mm.
>>28030551
What regiment did you join OP?
>>28031514
Its a meme. The A1 was bad, the A2 is alright. Americans hate it because its not an m4 or m16.
Look after it and don't clog the action and it wont let you down.
>>28030596
>would you get one if you could?
>it is a gun
>Ever not wanting to get one
Step up senpai.
>>28040720
>Its a meme.
Seriously, people need to realize the Up oats, while good, is not a fucking firearms bible. The L85 is an okay rifle, SG 550 isn't some magic godly sniper rifle (same for G3)
In general everything is exaggerated, because, wait for it, it's not actually real life and is meant to be entertainment.
>>28030570
The cadets use the sa80 or semiauto variant sometimes
>>28040710
Why'd you scribble out the numbers on the back of the CQB mount?
It's just a NSN for the piggyback mount (903499-003), not a serial number. They're the same on all the sights
