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Girlfriend is the manager of a clothing store. Yesterday at 6pm, a man comes up to her, says he loves her and will buy anything for her. She alerted security and he was escorted off of the property. Last night at 10:30, while walking to her car, security saw the same guy coming to her car just as she was driving off. Luckily she was econds ahead of him and he didn't make it in time. Today, he was spotted again lurking about. She is completely untrained with firearms and I've already looked into getting her into classes soon, but that doesn't take care of the apparent threat that she's facing right now. I'm kind of up in the air for what we should do right now. Taser, pepper spray, security escorts, etc obviously but for someone facing an immediate threat right now, I'm kind of at a loss for what to do... Thoughts? The fact that he waited 4.5 hours in the cold for her scares the shit out of me...
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>>28026206
Why aren't you beating the guy with a baseball bat?
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Yeah. You should probably call the police. Just saying.
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Tell her to only leave the store with a co-worker or friend.
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I'd be a bit more proactive about this if I was you. Otherwise you'll probably be asking 'whats in the box?'
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>>28026206
Dress up as your girlfriend and put on a wig. Let him catch up to you, then pull out your cock and run after the dude. You may be thinking this wont work but it will. When dealing with crazy you must be crazier.
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>>28026206
until she gets her permit
https://www.selfdefenseproducts.com/product/4-oz-dps-x-stream-range-flip-top-spray
depending on how serious you and she are about it, it would be a good idea to buy some training cans and practice you also may want to get her a stab\bullet vest. i usually go a little overboard though.
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This of course
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>>28026239
What's in the box?
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>>28026206

Borrow your mommy's car, put some mud on the license plates, park not too near her car but not too far, and beat the fuck out of him you pussy.
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It's not that big of a deal. It's probably a homeless mentally-ill person. They are usually completely harmless if a little creepy.

Have someone else stand outside the door while she goes to her car, chicks do this a lot. I worked at Sam's Club once and there was this chick who always asked me to walk with her out to her car just because the dark parking lot scared her. Was awesome because I got an extra break.

If the store actually has security then they should be the one doing it. Get her one of those pull cord rape alarms. As cheesy as they are it would work.
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>>28026355
>has nigger security protecting his woman
>gets keked

get out Shlomo
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Police want some paperwork started, even though his identity is unknown and they recommend pepper spray. Freaks me out thinking that if the security vehicle hadn't been nearby, he would have caught up to her last night.
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>>28026206
Tazer isn't an awful option until you get training. Has look/feel of a firearm. Can get used to carrying and if you fuck up and pull accidentally at least you won't be penetrating fools.
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>>28026504
>tazer isn't an awful option
yes it is. one shot, short range.
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>>28026244
>>28026268
Case closed
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Buy her a defensive suicide vest
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>>28026661
coughed up some flem
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Well OP,
I would go to work with her, have a casual conversation with security to introduce myself and let them know that I might wait outside for a while before she gets off work.
I would show up a couple hours before the end of her shift and wait in my car, out of sight, watching for the guy.
If I saw the guy, I would film him and then call the cops to file a report, get his I.D. and have her fill out a restraining order of needed.
Then, I would still show up a couple hours before the end of her shift and watch for him and call the cops if I saw him.
If, in the meantime, I caught him going up to her, well then there would be aggressive reactions.
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Tell her to piss herself if he tries to rape her.
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Private escort dude
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>>28026661
The media is just amazing sometimes
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>Make a spider hole
>shoot him your Arisaka in the leg
>yell "TENNOHEIKABANZAI"
>bayonet charge him
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tell your girlfriend he is a refugee and she should feel sorry for him and let him rape her
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>>28026206
a man comes up to her, says he loves her and will buy anything for her
Missed the chance to have a prime beta orbiter imo
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I would literally show up before the end of her shift with my friends and we would beat the sit out of him with bats. Park across the street, so the cameras don't see your tag and cover your faces.

No excuse for you and her to live in fear like this. Our society has to stop bending over to accommodate dindus and whack jobs
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>>28026865
>old creepy guy falls to ground
>presses R3
>pushes bayonet to side
>sticks bowie knife in the side of your skull
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>>28026206
Unless you've been dating her for 2 weeks or less you should've gotten her into guns and self defense already you have failed as a boyfriend and as a man. Preparing after the fact is too late.
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>>28028046
Fucking kekked
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Tbh OP, pepper spray and her screaming help very loudly will be effective.

It would also be smart to take some time off work and be there when she gets off, and handle the threat as necessary, and as violently as need be.
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>>28026206
Inform the police. Have her give them the details to the best of her ability. Get her a gun and some training ASAFP. And, in case a class doesn't cover the good stuff, make sure you both fully understand your state's laws. Things like Stand Your Ground are important here, as well. Or lack thereof.

Also, is that pic related? I ask mainly because it looks a lot like one of the malls in my hometown. It would make it a lot easier to point you in the right direction if you happen to be there.
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>>28026206

If time allows its it have her let you know when she's about to leave work with enough time for you to be there. Build in 15 minutes before she leaves or more to recon the area.

Do this randomly throughout the week. As random as possible, flip a coin, roll a dice, etc.

You never link up with her just become her shadow. Once you see your mark on foot you'll exit your vehicle. Move swiftly but as silently as possible. Keep your hands in your pockets but at the ready and if he look back rub your face or do something that looks like you're just some drunk asshole.

Once you're close enough kick out his dominate knee from the rear, if you've picked up on it by now. If not just go the his right knee. As he falls forward catch him in a rear choke hold making sure to use the back of his head as leverage.

Calmly count to twenty in your head then push him forward and punch him in the face as hard as you can.

Tell him to leave her alone forever or else then disappear into the night, WITHOUT RETURNING TO YOUR VEHICLE as quickly as possible.

Also you'll need to recon the area prior to the event to see the video camera and figure out a way to get your car in and out with the tag being seen.

*This is for entertainment purposes only. These action are very illegal and dangerous so do not attempt them.
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>>28028177
>*This is for entertainment purposes only. These action are very illegal and dangerous so do not attempt them.

Dubs man, you so cray
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You only thought about the safety of your loved ones now?

Enjoy your "Stuffed in the Fridge" bad end.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StuffedIntoTheFridge?from=Main.StuffedInTheFridge
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Tbh OP, if at all possible you should be there when your gf gets off work, keep an eye out for uncle lester the gf molester. Let her get in the car, and drive iff, and you destroy this creep. He's not gonna call the cops, hell he was trying to rapicide your gf.just draw down on him, get him in the ground, and kindly instruct him to bite the curb. Be a hero op.
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>>28026355

I agree with you but the problem is all the psycho stalkers start the exact same way. So it doesn't matter if he is harmless or not. He is an unknown quantity.

OP call police non emergency number and have GF file a report either over the phone (teleserve) or in person. Contact both Sherrif's dept and city police if there are multiple agencies with jurisdiction in your area.

GF should never go alone NOT even once. You should be escorting her when possible.

Explain to her if she must fight and run like hell and never ever corporate even if he has a gun on her. Do not get dragged into a car or van. That's the cases where they never find the body.

I would get an emergency protective order/restraining order. Sone states have emerge y provisions to expedite the concealed carry process in such circumstances.

Personally I would have her carrying any way after some basic range training. Is your state open carry?

Also recommend you all read the Giftbof Fear by the anti gun Gavin DeBecker. Buy it used so his anti gun ass doesn't get any money. Other than his guns are for me and not for thee it is a very good book on the psychology of victims and criminals.
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>>28026218
thread
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>>28026262

I carried every day at college against their bullshit no guns rules. The right to self defense is a human right. Fuck the permit. She needs a gun now.
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Cash in all your sick days, and stalk the stalker.

It's like you don't even /k/
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>>28027270

Safer to follow him home. Less chance of cameras.

I need your help. I can't tell you what it is, you can never ask me about it later, and we're gonna hurt some people.

Whose car are we gonna take?
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>>28028110

Wtf is the point of this post. Yes he fucked up but no one here has a time machine. Try to help op instead of being a smarmy cunt.
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>Decide what weapon you want to own next
>Tell your gf to tell this guy to buy it for her
>Betafagstalker buys gun (assuming he legally can)
>gf gives you free gun
>Repeat until played out.
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>>28026271
ur mum m8
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>>28027270
he'll never sit again
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>>28026232
have you ever actually called the police?
>usually they stand around bored while checking the boxes for "bare minimum" so they can leave.
>they usually look for an excuse to blame the victim or not help them at all.
>oh ur house got broken into, stop hanging around such people. Gee thnx cop great advice....

Well im sorry i cant do anything untill the creepy guy kills her. Then we can do something. Have a nice night.
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>>28029704

You are a retard. People in the US talk about "the police" like it is a monolithic institution. When in reality every department is different.

OP should contact every agency city, county, sherrif, state till he gets the help he needs. Stalking in a crime in all 50 states. A good cop isn't going to brush it off.
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Is this photo where she works?
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>Tire marks from drifting and car meet fuckery

Hallmark of every ghetto mall parking lot, tbr nigga.
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>>28029773

I think the black marks are just black crack sealant used on asphalt.
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>>28029742

It is a stock photo do a reverse image search anon.
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>>28026218
/thread
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>>28026268
beat him with this. Make sure to get one with the cumlube insert so he's left questioning every decision that's led him up to that moment.
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>>28026206
You realize stalking is a serious no joke precursor to violent crime? There's a good chance she'll experience some sort of sexual power based violence from this guy. You have to stop these things very early on. It honestly might already be too late as she is experiencing face to face contact. More than likely, she met this person somewhere and doesn't remember it. 2/3 of women being stalked have some sort of connection to their stalker.

Take it from someone with an unhappy experience in their past, you don't want this to go on too much longer. You really REALLY want to get this guy out of her life man. I cannot be more clear: FIX THIS NOW, IT GETS WORSE
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>>28026206
Seeing that this guy is there daily and intensifying in his attempts to get to her, I'd take the next few days off of work and focus entirely on being there, on scene, monitoring.

Drive with her to work, in two separate vehicles and sit around the mall all fucking day if you have to. Have a signal between you and her to identify the guy if she sees him. Watch him at all times. See if he has a car, get the license plate number, take photos of him with your phone or a camera.

If he tries to do anything to her, deal with him yourself and use force accordingly (in accordance with state laws, unless the laws where you are, are so fucking retarded, you're essentially prohibited from doing anything but bending over and taking it. Then fuck the law)

The fact is, security can't and won't do shit most of the time. Many security agencies and malls have policies where their guards are not authorized to act (to avoid lawsuits). And security will not babysit her. Police will not be there when they are NEEDED.

If you haven't already made a report to law enforcement, it should be done IMMEDIATELY. That mere fact it's already on official record supports you and her in the event of a self defense situation.

On her end, have her carry multiple forms of self defense tools, pepper spray ideally, maybe a knife or electrical weapon (stun gun/Taser).

You provide whatever firearm support she needs in the event of an incident.
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>>28026504
Depending on state you need a permit. In some the tazer falls under concealed firearm as it shoots a projectile, no joke
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>>28026206
>Girlfriend

Sounds like a nigga better go beat his ass.
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>>28030272
Other ideas...

>both of your should carry two way radios to communicate should he show up while you're away taking a shit or eating or elsewhere (to avoid getting harassed for "loitering")
>Escort her car with your own separate vehicle. Maintain a distance when she is parking and walking into/out of work so the stalker isn't aware she has protection. But be ready to rush in fast and draw on the fuck if he makes a move on her.
>If he knows she is being protected, he knows it's only temporary. You can't take off work forever and a real sick fuck can be patient. They are cowards and don't want a victim who can fight back or is defended. He'll wait until you can't be there. So stay in the shadows until the moment is right.
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>>28026206

If that were my girlfriend I'd wait outside in the cold with "my friend" and confront said stalker as she's getting out of work. I'd get his license plate and find out where he lives, then pay him a visit to his house/apartment the very next day.

Just to let him know he's on my radar.

I'd also get a few cop friends to make sure he knows he's on their radar as well.
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>>28026811
Underrated
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Pics of gf to decide how mentally ill this guy is
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>>28026206
I hope youre having her at least file reports with your local police or sheriff and get a restraining order.
This will make your case a lot easier to defend in court after you finally kill this bastard with your weapon of choice
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>>28027270
>with my friends
Confirmed for pussy who only acts when surrounded by his mates. You're total trash.
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>>28030330
>two way radios

You're thinking too small. Give her pic related so she can call in artillery or an air strike.
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>>28030447
>Defending a person from a violent assault must be an honorable duel
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>>28030149
The cum tube is the greatest thing ever
>that feeling of cum lube dripping out of you
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>>28030623
>I'm afraid of the bad guy, better call my homies to protect me
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>>28030447
>>28031787
Not that guy but Id rather be an alive coward than a dead retard.
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>>28029704

This. A friend of mine was letting another friend of mine stay with her after he got thrown out of his place. Friend who is staying with her did something to piss someone he knew off, and dude came to female friend's place and started beating on the door with a hammer, demanding to be let in. He eventually goes away, she calls the cops, has them come out and examine the beat to fuck door, does a report, etc.

Cops basically are like, "You must be fucking both of them and the other one got jealous. Stop being a whore." And refused to do anything about it, despite being given the attacker's name and address. Female friend has TWO small children that were in her place that night. Cops don't give a fuck. They'd rather let a woman and two small children get murdered by a drunken maniac than get off their fat asses.

Cops are there to fill out a report while standing over your corpse, not to prevent you from becoming a corpse in the first place.
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>>28026206
Assuming you live in a shit state that will come after you for protecting your wife...

CRIPPLE HIS SORRY ASS BEFORE HE ACTS ON HIS FANTASIES AND MOLESTS HER, YOU IMBECILE!!!

>Cover your license plates.
>Wear a mouthless balaclava and some tinted goggles.
>Bring a Sledgehammer.
>Wait for him to show up as your wife is leaving.
>If he advances towards her, chase him down and break both of his legs.

Don't say or do anything distinctive. Leave him assuming that it was a coincidence. Steal his wallet to make it look like a mugging.
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>>28032141
>posting anime shit
Bad news for you, you're retard already.
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>make up bullshit story
>/k/ comes up with every idea they can
>op never comes back
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>>28032472
Nice shitpost
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>>28026206
give her a fucking revolver or some double action gun to keep in her purse, tell her to keep it on her
if hes close enough theirs no way in hell shell miss him
that and if he hears a shot go off he will run, cause who wouldn't if they were being shot at?
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>>28026819
what? like off backpages?
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>>28026244
10/10
/thread
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>>28032444

Not his wife, it's his gf. So chances are the guy stalking her is an old fuck buddie, or some dude she was cheat with.
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>>28026206
I would wait for the guy and start stalking him and taking pictures to scare him away from the security cameras. Then I would apply justice liberally.

or hire some mexicans to harass him.
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>>28032174

Has it occurred to you that cops can't only enforce the laws on the books? If there is no damage to the door and the state requires an intimate relationship to obtain a protection order what do you suggest the police do?
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>>28027270
>Our society has to stop bending over to accommodate dindus and whack jobs
So you're going to gather a group of people and just beat someone to death with bats?

Real civilized there.

>inb4 should he wait for his gf to get raped and murdered to do something?
There's plenty of steps that come between "doing nothing" and "committing murder" which is what it would be if you just jump the guy and beat him to death without him even twitching wrong.
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>>28032174
>cops tell your friend that she must be fucking both of them
>accuses them of being lazy
Yeah, that was their only problem. Leave it to /k/ to miss the obvious because muh feminism
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>>28026206
Give her a lift to and from work. Carry your sidearm. Problem solved.
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post on >>>r9k and tell him to leave her alone
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>>28026206
nigga a baseball bat is cheap and legal for anyone to buy and it don't take a genius to cave someone's dome with a bat

>>28026218
>>28026218
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>>28030418
Underrated
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>>28029521
i'm sorry for anyone who doesn't have friends like that.
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>>28027270
I know a tall musclebound guy who was late to pick his daughter up from trampoline practice because a Jeep rolled up and 4 men jumped out and gave him aluminium bat therapy.
He staggered to the youth club, walked hios daughter home then called police.
Turns out some great big dude had been punching out young guys at the local bar, of legal drinking age but like 18 to 20. So a team of righteous bros got their bats and zoomed out for some Batman style justice.
Got the wrong guy, didn't even badly hurt him, couple broken fingers and a cracked cheekbone.
Vigilantes = lame masturbators
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>>28037527
That's a great feeling to think
>Wait, do I have friends like that?
And realize that my do-nothing neckbearded buddy would give a shrug at most before going on a knee-breaking expedition with me

Maybe
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>>28037622
Wonder what those guys thought when the next weekend people were still being punched out
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>>28037645
The beating they handed out was in the local news.
They probably worked out they hit the wrong guy, maybe they even learned their lesson. But if i know cowardly shits like i think i do, they kept real quiet and will skulk around hoping it doesn't catch up with them. They'll carry that stupid lame cringe feeling the rest of their days.
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>>28029721
They all receive the same training, so the attitude and practices are pretty much monolithic.
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>>28026661
>>28026850
What exactly was wrong with the media saying that? What else would it be considered if you're using it to defend a position?
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>>28032673
>namefag
>poor orthography
>bad advice
Never come back.
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>>28026206
Pick her up from work if possible. If not try sort a car pool. I had to do the same for my girlfriend after she finished work. The local old men at the bar always got a little stalky
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>>28029489
>unknown quantity

variable, anon. unknown variable
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>>28029521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGxYjJ5bcv0
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A stun-gun is too much of a risk, as you wouldn't want her to be close enough to make contact with it in the first place. The top option would be a Taser, however they take about a week to get to your door. So pepper spray is the way to go right now, make sure you get a fairly powerful brand, you don't want some shitty $10 plastic one that's gonna break or gunk up.
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>>28038247

And you are speaking from a position of experience? In my state all the larger departments conduct their own training academies. As do the state police.

There is not one national police academy.
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