These threads have been reasonably popular...
Who takes their precision rifles hunting?
Next year. I'm the gen 2 razer on the savage m10 guy.
Moved provinces and didn't have time to get licensing figured out.
>>28016525
/raises hand
If I own an MOA factory fudd-looking rifle, does that make it 'precision'? Or does it have to have the bull barrel and bipod and what have you?
>>28016575
For a TRUE precision rifle, I'd stick with at least a bull barrel; but you can get great groups with thinner sporter contour barrels--they just heat up and open up their groups a lot faster at the range.
>>28016565
Sounds like a great setup.
Savage rifle are no joke. The old days of "Savage is for guys who can't afford a Remington" are over. Savage rifles and shooters have been taking home medals for years now.
Re-barreling a Savage is crazy easy too; it can be done in your garage in 30 mins with a wrench and some gauges.
>>28016525
I really want to get a deer with my Precision AR.
I'm pushing a 75 gr OTM at 3k FPS. That's plenty for a little white tail.
>>28016768
This is the three the see the most action
At the back is the fp hs in 308
Next is a vanguard 2 varmint in 223
Then a ruger American in 22lr
>>28017007
That's a good looking group of rifles. I'd love to have some Vortex Razor glass myself.
>Vanguard
I had a Howa 1500 Targetmaster (same exact action), and was VERY impressed with the accuracy of it (once I'd put it in a Bell and Carlson stock)
>5 round of 168 gr FGMM at 100 yds
>>28017055
The vanguard might be getting the stock modified. It throws 2 touching in one group then 3 touching into the next. I think it's due to stock pressure on the barrel because it's less apparant off a bag supporting it under the floorplate.
The 308 recently got a 20moa rail which totally fucked my cheek weld. The 2 piece bases were waaaaaay lower.
>>28017083
As far as I could find, only 2x 20 MOA bases were offered: an aluminum one from EGW an a steel one (from Seekins irc).
That's one of the down sides to the platform; fewer aftermarket options.
What stock do you have that's putting pressure on the barrel? Any decent composite stock is going to have an aluminum V-bed.
>tfw full aluminum chassis now
The MDT chassis is great, but FUCK is it heavy.
Any opinions on the Remington 783? I'm relatively new to firearms and after doing my homework got myself one in 7mm rem mag. Managed about an inch and a half group of 5 at 100 with it. As I improve, how far out can I expect to take this rifle? 500 yards? 800? 1000?
Pic sort of related, my meager arsenal as of now.
>>28017111
The one on the vanguard is a egw and on the savage is the weaver steel iirc.
It's just the stock stock on the vg, I've looked at the mdt lss but they just don't do it for me. I think I'm just going to just take a bit out of the stock channel and reinforce it with some epoxy and maybe a steel rod. The move has been slow unpacking and my reloading setup isn't out 100% yet.
>>28017165
Check out the B&C Medalist Tactical at Stocky's, it's under $300 and it's got everything you could want in a stock.
Factory stocks are nothing more than a stand in to take the rifle home in most cases. I wouldn't trust them for anything.
>but seriously, the B&C stock is great. I loved it.
>>28017136
Depends on your requirements for accuracy.
>>28017195
>Canada
Your government thinks I'm gonna reverse engineer the stock and arm a military if the item is worth over 300$
>>28017219
I'd like to hit 24" steel targets at 1000 yards. I think I've been bitten by the long range bug, i'll definitely be upgrading in the future, but will my humble bargain bin bolt gun be able to ring steel at that distance or should I keep my expectations low? I've been eyeing the Ruger Precision Rifle, I'll admit.
>>28017227
>over $300
good thing it $250 then
https://www.stockysstocks.com/bell-carlson-tactical-medalist-style-2-remington-700-sps-bdl-savage-10-12-weatherby-vanguard-howa-1500-vertical-grip-2092-2096-2997-2998-2999.html
Does a PSL count as a defacto AK precision rifle?
>>28017239
If your doing 1.5" at 100 consistently 24 at 1000 will be doable after you learn wind. Only issue that I could see is that your vertices will start to open up more because factory ammo speeds usually have a large spread. I think some companies are starting to do the pre fit barrels for the 783 like the savage.
A ruger precision would get you to 1000 easy. Glass starts getting $$$$ though.
>>28017306
If it hits what you want at a distance that makes you smile then yes.
>>28017291
From that site
U.S. federal law prohibits it. We have spoken with the U. S. State Department and there is NO amount that can be legally exported without a permit. The law states that, in order to export gun parts, you need a permit and we need a permit. A U.S. Export Permit costs $2500 annually. It takes several months to get one. In other words, no export.
>>28017327
This is very informative, thank you. I'll have to upgrade the glass on it, it's just got a 3x9 currently. Do you have any recommendations? I've heard great things about Primary Arms 4x14s
>>28017390
How's your eyesight? How much can you squirrel away a month?
>>28017355
Gay. I'm sure there's someone out there that sells them.
>>28017239
You can re-stock and re-barrel even the most humble bargain bin bolt action into a mean machine.
1 MOA will get you to 1000 yds with most any match capable round though. What might hold you back is glass, and holding 1 MOA all day once your barrel heats up.
>>28017390
The PA is a good entry-level scope, but you'll outgrow it quickly as your skills improve.
The next tier up (and a level that most non-professional shooters stay at) will be a Bushnell Elite, Vortex Viper PST, SWFA, or Burris.
The options are bewildering, but some things you'll want to make sure you have are matching MIL/MIL (MRAD) turrets and reticle, a first focal plane reticle, and uncapped turrets. If you can fit it in your budget too, a tree-stylre reticle is also VERY handy.
Here's my recommendation if you're asking:
http://www.opticsplanet.com/bushnell-elite-tactical-6-24x50mm-rifle-scope.html
>>28017420
I was actually very close to getting the elite tactical 6-24 for the 22 but I got a way better deal on the hst
>>28017420
Oh wow. So with the Ruger RPR and this glass I'm looking at around 1800 ballpark. I'll use my current setup as much as possible until then. Thank you both for your help, this whole long range shooting thing is a lot to take in all at once.
I'm about to buy my first rifle for venturing into longer range shooting and I was wondering what calibre you guys think is best. As far as the make and model that's going to take a lot more research but the first step I think should be knowing what calibre I'm aiming for.
>>28017463
>HST
I've always paid the extra for a PST over the HST, but the new rifle came with an HS-T scope as a package. It's the 4-16x44 VMR.
The glass is equal in quality to the PST line, what you give up is the etched reticle, illumination, and FFP reticle.
So far it's worked well enough. I can't decide if I want to keep it or try to swap it later on.
>"precision rifle"
>just another Remington 700 action with a fancy stock in a special snowflake calibre
What are good entry level rifles for some long range fun?
>>28016525
I'm building my own soon 308 for now as proof of concept and a 338 sometime next xmass.
I'm starting to watch Tiborausaurus Rex or w/e his name's videos and it looks like 7mm Rem Mag is a pretty damn good balanced round between availability, hunting capacity, and long range ballistics. Anything else come close? I'm using my 308 for now and I don't see any reasons to switch anytime soon.
Also looks like 300WM is fairly good, but not great.
>>28018118
>.308
>Savage model 10 or Remington 700 SPS varmint
>primary arms 4-14x44 mil dot FFS scope
>learn basics by shooting a lot and maybe a class.
You will know where to go from there. This build will give you a good shooter for a good price. Allows you to spend more money on range time and lowers your initial investment.
>>28019469
Thank you for the tips. I was leaning towards .308 for the balance of power and cost, good to know I was on roughly the right track. I already have a savage and I like where theyre going lately so I'll have to look into the model 10 some more.
I just picked up a remington 700 adl varmint in 22-250 yesterday for black friday. I shot some reloads of mine and was getting 3/4 moa groups with Sierra blitzking loads. But now I need a good glass for it other than the cheap 4-12 it came with. Any suggestions under 500? And what is the difference between the adl and sps models?
>>28019469
Which of the savage 10 series is recommended usually for entry level?
>>28017007
That Kryptek stock is sexy
>>28019457
What kinds of range is available for you to shoot? A 6.5mm case like the creedmore, 260, x47l etc will get you out past 1000 easy
>>28019706
Hog hunter. Top bolt release is important if your looking to replace the stock.
>>28019727
Ya it's kinda cute haha. Sucks that I'm gonna have to raise the comp about half an inch for a good cheek weld
>>28019328
I got the hst for 230 $ Canadian. Could not say no.
>>28017136
1.5 inch group at 100 yards is terribad. They should be on top of each other at that far.
I take my Parker-Hale chambered in 7mm rem mag. It's probably not anyone's definition of 'precision' but it makes tiny groups at long distances and that's fine for me.
Just wish it wasn't so expensive to shoot.
>>28016525
Just a reminder no precision rifle owner or prospective owner should ever not have watched this vid series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwG-D0HjCBQ&list=PLJUaiRIEduNXoal2_PkBZi0vDCIcEPxUn
>>28017420
Don't get that scope. Search et6245f. It's the same scope but it's first focal plain while the one on the link is still second focal plain.
>>28020423
Newfag detected
>>28020423
It's a 300 dollar rifle. Do you even shoot?
>>28020533
Anyone looking for a cheap high quality optic, check his videos on the SWFA SS line. Man knows his stuff
>>28016753
My 6.5x55 factory Tikka t3 shoots 5 shot 1/4 groups with a 9 power scope (hand loads) you don't need bull barrel if it's a hunting rifle, target shooting yea I guess
>>28020716
Start competing. You could win tons of matches with that rifle, a .25" average would put you top 10 consistently.
Or you shot that group once and are clueless
WHAT'S A GOOD CHEAP .308!?
>pic related, .308 aguilia 65 cents a pull.
I'm looking for something that performs better.
I did pic related with a Tikka t3 .308 on dusk with a cheapo bushnell elite and factory ammo. It was only from 50m away because i couldn't get further away at that time, but i was working my way on getting rid of the flinch i got from getting smacked in the face by the scope.
>>28020843
Ammo can make a cheap gun shoot like an expensive gun.
Try some Norma or Hornady.
Nightforce is doing a shv ffp with an msrp of 1250. It will be great value in the 1k-1500 range
>>28016829
What barrel length is that and what manufacturer
>>28020072
>What kinds of range is available for you to shoot? A 6.5mm case like the creedmore, 260, x47l etc will get you out past 1000 easy
I currently found 1,000yds, but I think there's another spot where we could get out farther than that.
One question I have for my .308:
It's a Tikka 22" 1:11 twist. I just got some black hills 175SMK rounds and I plan to use the Federal Vital Shok 180gr Nosler Partitions. Both of these should stabilize fine, right?
>>28019338
And???
>>28019457
Any mag calibre is going to burn barrels, cost more to feed, and may be too uncomfortable to shoot fit any extended length of time. I would suggest 7mm08 or 6.5 creedmoor.
>>28019357
Savage Hog Hunter
Howa 1500 Targetmaster
Remington 700 AAC
...all of them will need a better stock first thing.
>>28019457
Most long range shooters are using 6mm Lapua or 6.5 cm.
As far as availability, 6.5cm has caught on like wildfire. If you have the equipment to form your own brass hand load, 260 is also a good option. It's just a 308 case necked down to 6.5
300WM is good, but don't learn on it. Barrels can last as little as 2k rounds, components are expensive, recoil is sharp, et al. It's an old, big round that's got some limitations. I use mine because I also hunt (possibly up to bear) with the precision rifle, so the extra terminal ballistics are great.
>>28019565
308 is a great learning round. Soft recoil, long barrel life, and available ammo and components are all a win.
>>28019691
SWFA, Vortex, Bushnell Elite, Burris...
For right around $500, this is great glass:
http://www.opticsplanet.com/vortex-viper-hs-t-4-16x44-vmr-1-riflescope.html
>>28020586
Good catch, yeah, it should have been a FFP optic that I linked.
>>28022023
24" Stag Model 6 Varmint AR
Help me out here guys. I have a M10 FCP-SR, I'd like a brake for it. What do you recommend?
>>28019691
He's right, but even the Bushnell Banner Dusk &Dawn series would be a great starting point for a lot less. When you're just starting out (testing your reloads, weather, sun, etc) having a simple crosshair makes things a lot less stressful. Get better glass when you find a load your gun likes, because it could take you a while.
>>28023583
Is there any kind of contesting between the Vortex bubble level vs. SWFA's?
>>28023877
Whatever brake works with a can you might use.
I have a Saker Trifecta I'd sell you, barely used.
>>28024048
I have the Vortex.
If you like one that sticks out further, but fold, Wheeler makes one. I have one of those, and a Vortex.
>>28024077
Only thing I saw between them is SWFA being a small port and Vortex having lines defining middle for their bubble. SWFA is currently $20 too.
>>28024068
Didn't plan to use a can desu. They're legal here in VT so it's a thought, but I just wanted something to reduce recoil enough for me to see where my shots land.
>>28024321
>desu
I didn't type that, wtf?
Is soft point hunting ammo considered precision ammo? Would Federal PowerShock, Rem Core-Lokt or Hornady American Whitetail potentially shoot the best groups a particular rifle is capable of shooting?
If not, what ammo brands and types are more accurate? I'll be reloading eventually but want to buy a few 100 rounds of manufactured ammo and don't know what to get.
>>28024321
>>28024392
Word filter for "F A M" on /k/, also for "T B H"
The Saker is a great brake though if you're interested. I just need a YHM for the can I plan to buy.
>>28024470
No, there are special bullets made for precise shooting with very low BCs. They don't have great terminal ballistics for hunting. These are the Sierra Match King, Hornady A-Max, Berger VLD, et al.
There are also hybrid bullets with high BC's and good terminal ballistics, such as the Nosler Accubond. They won't be as aerodynamic as a true match bullet, but are a damn sight better than a flat bases PSP bullet.
>>28025384
How much?
>>28025398
send me an email:
[email protected]
>>28025406
Passing secrets?
>>28024470
I've measured hunting ammo on a oal Guage 30 though variance was the norm.
Looking back I should have pulled some bullets and measured powder loads. Sure that would have been crazy too
>>28025538
I just don't like talking price in public.
Everyone has something to say.
>>28025538
>>28025384
>>28024470
Most of the basic hunting loads I've shot group right around 1 MOA: Remington Corelokt, Federal PSP, Winchester PSP, etc.
They also shoot to just about the same zero too at 100 yds, assuming the same bullet weights.
>thread's not dead
Saw a good deal on some glass in the Cabela's catalogue.
Sure, it's SFP, but it's still a hell of a deal.
>>28026259
Oh, I was looking at that model today at Cabelas. Didn't realize that was the price. Seemed like a great optic, I just don't have the need or $ to buy it right now.
>>28026273
They're selling "Outback" brand .223 with a 69 gr SMK bullet for $10/box. If it's good, match quality stuff then that's a screaming deal too.
>>28023583
also depends what you considered burned out, mine was a consistent doubling of group size
i burned out a barrel in 350 rds with a 300wsm
>>28016525
Muh Nigga.
THis is the RPR and the RapeBurban. Great for backroads.
Most people say it is folly to bring a 14lb gun hunting at 6000+ft for hunting. I think those people need to get more fit.
Or maybe they are less dumb than I.
>>28026383
There is no way you burnt out a .300 WSM barrele in 350 rounds. Unless it was all in one sitting, under 30 minutes.
I have shot 300rds in a 6.5-06 AI and it isnt shot out that fast...
I have to call bullshit.
>>28026383
>i burned out a barrel in 350 rds with a 300wsm
That's VERY fast by any estimate. Was it stainless or carbon steel? CHF? Nitrided or anything similar? I'd be pissed if one burned out that fast on me.
>>28026402
The RPR has been a grand slam for Ruger. They really tapped into a new niche that the market obviously wanted. Younger companies like Ruger (with the RPR) and Mossberg (the MVP LC I have) have been innovating, while Remington has been sitting on its laurels.
>14 lb rifle
Bring as much rifle as is required. Anything less is a wasted trip. If you have the skills and opportunity to take a shot, and your friends can't even risk it yet, then you made the right choice.
My Remington is close to 18 lbs, but it's my primary deer rifle now. Sure, it's heavy, but it's the right tool for the job.
>>28026431
>>28026433
it was a stainless factory barrel but i was pushing 185grn bergers out at 3100fps
>>28026475
I'm near 800 in my log book with 190 gr SMK at 3k fps with no appreciable loss in accuracy on a factory Remington Sendero SF II stainless barrel.
>>28026475
forgot to mention i was getting consistent groups under a 1/2" up to 300rds then they slowly opened up to 1.5" close to the end
>>28026402
I really want an rpr. But I also want to build my own precision rifle off of a remington 700 action. Rpr will probably be cheaper tho
>>28026501
depends on the pressure your running at, mine were running 8-10k over saami max
>>28026433
I should gif my durr this year. Give me a bit. 630yd shot, smoked clean.
Well. So I did.
>>28026475
Well.. I guess... I just feel that even at 300 rounds you could still chase the lands to keep the rifle still shooting.
OR you contact whoever built that barrel for you, and get them to fix that shit. Thats not right regardless.
>>28026519
RPR is love. RPR is life.
>>28026553
Sounds like complete bullshit.
Lets see your pressure graphs.
>>28026596
I've been wondering if 6.5 cm loads into an ar-10 pattern pmag, I guess the answer is yes judging by that pic. When the Mossberg's groups start to open, I'm considering putting a 6.5cm or 260 barrel on it--if I can find a place that offers them. Right now I can't find any barrels for it.
It uses a Savage style barrel nut though, so I should be able to do it at home.
>>28026501
Plus, you can chase the lands.
>>28026622
Yes, you DO max out your COAL at 2.800" with a PMAG though.
I need some AICS mags for more length.
>>28026609
185grn bullet with H414
sug starting 59grns-54,100 psi
sug max 62.5grns-63,000 psi
my load 65.5-71,500psi or so
>>28026626
>>28026596
wasnt worth it to me for an off the self savage
now if it was a kelby i would have a couple barrels on stand by
>>28026663
My Mossberg MVP has a VERY short free bore, I may not even need to load them too long.
My Reminton 700 300 wm though, fucking ay, they look like torpedoes. It's chamber is is loose as a goose. With 5 thou of jump on a SMK, they barely fit in the internal mag.
>>28026761
Unless you were measuring it you have no way of actually knowing your pressure.
>>28026808
it should be pretty close according to the pressure slope
>>28026783
>wasnt worth it to me for an off the self savage
Now I know you are bullshitting. Its ALWAYS worth chasing the lands. I will always give the benefit of the doubt. However you are complete bullshit with your burnout in 350rds.
>>28026831
Based on what?
Is your gun exactly the same as a test unit somewhere?
QL is spitting out figures of under 2k over max. Likely your rifle was lower.
>>28026831
Pressures published are assuming coal by the book, on Saami spec cased. Used brass does not have the same case capacity as Saami spec, even more so if only neck sizing.
b-b-b-b-bb-b-b-bb-ulllllshit.
>tfw no 6.5 magnum rifle
I have a friend selling a Sendero SF II in 264 Win mag. Kind of want.
>>28027863
No you don't. Get a 7 instead.
>>28027863
Its not a .280 AI.
I dint understand how people feel they need a big magnum when they are not shooting more than 500 yards.
There is nothing gained from a 300 wmag over a 30-06 at those ranges.
>>28028028
But anon, I DO shoot past 500 yds.
My family farm gets out to 550, and Peacemaker NTC in WV where I go to the range has electronically scored 1000 yd lanes.
>>28030099
I was talking about the guys In general who come in looking for advice on a 300 rum for shooting whitetail at 150 yards.
Honestly in regards to your thoughts on the sendero, how much does he want for it? Up in Canada a new sendero is more than a ruger precision, and a 6.5 creed will kill game out to 500 easy, and they work fine on paper at 1000 too.
By the books your looking at an extra 250fps for an extra 25+ grains of powder
>>28016575
generally speaking; accurate means hitting what you aim at and precision means repeating that accuracy over & over again. hence the heavier barrels, for stringing together shots on target. not necessary for hunting though, lots of specifically long range hunters use skinny sticks and care more about having them throated right.
for example a lot of the ultra-light kimber 84 montana rifles in 7mm-08 won't, from the factory, shoot the 162 amax bullet very accurately, because it's a quite long bullet and the kimber mags are minimum length (2.81") to save weight. with the standard SAAMI 7mm-08 throat you need to seat the bullet out further to get the best accuracy (say, 2.9" hypothetically), but if you do that then the cartridges won't fit in the rifle's magazine. however if you have the rifle re-barreled or set the old barrel back a little and re-chamber it, you can load a 162 amax in empty 7-08 brass to the desired cartridge length so it fits in the magazine, send it to the gunsmith and have him cut a custom throat on the barrel specifically for a 162/7-08 at 2.8" length and then it should shoot amazingly well.
>>28016829
Why do you have a magnifier on a fullsize rifle scope?
>>28033906
I... Really?
Can someone let me know if a FN SPR A3G is a good rifle to get?
>>28035042
Really. If you want more magnification then buy a better riflescope. It seems like tacticooling more than anything else.
>>28033906
because he doesnt own that rifle
>>28035100
You know that's not a magnifier, right?
>>28035100
You gotta be bait...
>>28035201
>>28035279
Am I goofing? What is it?
>>28035502
Nightvision.
Hey /k/, I got about a grand in disposable income for a rifle, rings, and glass. I'd prefer if it wasn't in 308 because I already have a Savage Model 99 in 308. Any suggestions?
>>28035611
Save more.
Thread's not Dead baby
>>28035611
Something in 6.5cm like the RPR, but $1k is only going to get you the rifle if you want real precision.
>>28016525
just went for my first trip this weekend, didn't see anything regrettably
>>28035676
>>28035806
I suppose I could use the money to beef up my AR or get a Tikka T3 in 300 win mag. AR is only in 556 though.
>>28035841
If your not shooting 1400+ yards or hunting past 6/700 don't waste money on a magnum.
>>28035841
Here's my suggestion for a rifle:
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_62_974/products_id/78076/Savage+110FCP+HS+PRECISION+300WIN
This is the cheapest I'd go on glass:
http://www.opticsplanet.com/vortex-viper-hs-t-4-16x44-vmr-1-riflescope.html
Then get an EGW 20 MOA scope base, and Vortex Viper 30mm low rings.
bump
I use a carl gustav 1900 action rebarreled with a cz550 match profile from LW. Kkc epoxibedded stock and vortex viper 4-26 glass ffp. Got a vmac v4 can on it.
Pic is 300m with some rain. Its killed 3 deers, one moose and a seagull.
>>28037784
pics of the rifle?
Could only find pic from before the rebarrelling senpaio, need to update my gallery
Baka desu paisenp
>Precision rifle thread
Well, good a place as any to ask this
My dad has a .25WSSM that he fucking loves, killed a deer at 480+ yards a few years back with it.
Problem is, of course, that it's a .25WSSM, and ammo hasn't been in production for almost eight years now. Since ammo is all but gone, he's saving his casings and having a family friend reload them, but they won't last forever. I figured I could try to find him an at least decent replacement.
Are there any other cartridges that replicate that sort of performance in a small rifle?
>110gr .25cal at 3k fps
First thought was 6.5 Grendel, but no bolt actions chambered for it exist. Next best step would be to order a CZ527 action and get a custom barrel for it made, apparently.
>>28037974
270 WSM maybe? Though it's a bit longer.
243 WSSM is also still in stock:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2900229497/winchester-super-x-ammunition-243-winchester-super-short-magnum-wssm-100-grain-power-point
>>28038005
>http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2900229497/winchester-super-x-ammunition-243-winchester-super-short-magnum-wssm-100-grain-power-point
Out of stock, damn. This seems to be available though:
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/winchester-super-x-rifle-243-wssm-100-grain-pp-20-rounds?a=761774
>>28038005
>>28038016
He did mention the .243WSSM as an alternative. I wasn't sure if it was still being produced, though.
I think half his love is for the rifle itself, too. It's a Browning A-Bolt.
I know this aint much of a precision rifle, but it's not too bad. The gun is bedded up to around the chamber area. Full-Length bed (of barrel), or should i make sure the barrel is freefloat and add a pressure pad? 26" mil profile barrel mustard race. It was originally bedded full length but i hacked it out to near the chamber area, it's Acraglass. Anyone have any experience or hearsay or even anecdotes?
>>28037974
257 weatherby
25-06
25-284
if the bullet weight is all that matters plenty of cartridges will push a 100-120gr bullet super fast. also there's rumours that howa's new micro action will be doing a 6.5 grendel run next year.
>>28035053
Bump
>>28016525
Brother is trying to sell me his Browning A bolt for stupid cheap.
Havent really ever done anything with precision guns, how does the A bolt stand up to similar guns like the Remington 700 or Winchester Model 70?
>>28016525
>Who takes their precision rifles hunting?
If you put the money and effort into making it, why wouldn't you take it hunting? It seems like a no-brainer to get as much mileage out of that gun as possible.
>>28038373
It lacks the upgradeability of the 700 and the quality of a new or pre 64 m70
Accuracy can be hit or miss. Is it the newer and? If it is, I'd pass.
>>28039544
I'd rather take my 7 pound till in 243 than my 16 pound 308 savage. Not everyone sits in a blind over a feed plot.
>>28038104
Does it shoot good? Leave it if yes.
>>28020716
Daniel?
