Post pics of Under appreciated aircrafts
>>27962503
Does this count?
>Obsolete aircraft with dogshit EPS pods that failed more than they worked in SW and OD
???
>>27962503
Under appreciated by tasteless faggots maybe. Prowlers are fucking tits!
>>27962503
>>27962794
While we're on the subject, Late 20th century EW aircraft give me a boner I can't fully explain.
>>27962503
Are those wind-gens on the pods to power them in flight?
>>27962813
We need more planes with foward swept wings
>>27962760
best codebreaking cover operation ever.
![CF-1_flight_test[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bU5S1nb.jpg "CF-1_flight_test[1].jpg")
h..here we go
>>27962884
Aerospace engineer here. We sure as hell do not.
>>27962539
yeah but u got to sit with ur friends
>>27962901
Why not? Genuinely curious.
>>27962901
I 100% believe you, but why do you say that? I'm just curious?
r-right guy?
>>27962901
But it's sexy!
>>27962937
>>27962938
Biggest problem is coupling of the aerodynamic moments. Airfoils cause a pitching-up moment when they generate lift that increases with speed. It's something that has to be addressed with all wings, but it tends to be more manageable on conventional wings. On conventionally swept wings, the moment caused by the lift in the spanwise direction (think trying to bend the wings upward at the tips) tends to counter the pitch-up moment you get from lift.
When you flip things around and have forward swept wings, however, these moments work together. The aerodynamic moment on the airfoil causes a pitch-up moment, while the part of the spanwise bending moment ends up being applied in the same direction as the aerodynamic moment.
End result is that you have to overengineer the wing spars compared to a conventional wing, and you're often left with an airframe limited not by drag, but by the structural strength of the wings. On top of that, it's a lot easier and cheaper to get the same benefits of the forward-swept wing with more conventional arrangements.
Hope that made sense - I'm not sure how well that translates to non-engineers.
>>27963000
I don't know about full scale aircraft, but in the Micro Air world (15in and under) it also has an issue of spoiling inwards(I cant think of the right term its 1am) which reduces efficiancy and lift potential.
at least it got to remove kraut with the slavs
>>27963028
allegedly. Soviets weren't allowed to fly the P-63 in Europe.
>OA-37
Candybar wing, a cockpit you step down into, bizjet maintenance, and near instant G-loading abilities.
>Nearly silent when gliding makes for ambush airstrikes.
>>27962833
Yep. Lots easier than uprating the generators on the engines and running heavy power cables, just have to pay the drag penalty.
>>27963059
I think I saw this or something like it at the USAF museum, It looked "comfy"
>>27963039
>"alleged"
they got shipped over, and there are records of p-39s doing things p-39s can't do.
>>27963000
>On top of that, it's a lot easier and cheaper to get the same benefits of the forward-swept wing with more conventional arrangements.
Only true if you use engine(s) with bi-directional vectored thrust.
>>27963028
Oh don't give me a P-39
With an engine that's mounted behind
It will tumble and roll
And make a big hole]
Don't give me a P-39
Apparently the bastard was a little unstable, if all the old men I knew when I was a kid had it right.
>>27962503
>>27962503
Went hiking up the coast this morning(ca's only redeeming factor) when suddenly I heard these big bastards flying up the coast line.
Love me some chinook.
>>27962503
I fucking LOVE those things. I especially love the 4 seat version with the gold cockpits. Best looking things ever. And they have teeth too, they can carry a solid bomb payload.
>>27962849
The Mil-8 is possibly my favorite helicopter. I just imagine operating from one landed on some rough barely prepared landing pad in the desert mountains, sleeping in tents next to it at night. Then waking up the cold of the morning, eating some rations and then going for a comfy fly to remove some kebab.
>>27962768
>Die Warzenschwein
Das Warzenschwein friend ;^)
>>27963059
Yeah makes perfect sense to power them that way - never really noticed before but yeah solves a shitload of penalties that would well and truly outweigh the drag penalty.
>>27963129
Supermaneuverability is just a meme
just stall my shit up familia
>>27963182
That ain't a p-39 son.
>>27962503
is that canopy made of two A10 canopies or what
>>27963124
I'm not saying I don't believe P-63s were flying in Europe, but just that the oh-so-reliable Soviet records say they didn't. I know there's a bunch of stories of pilots and units flying the Kingcobra while their unit was still officially using P-39s.
>>27963000
Made perfect sense to me, but my dad is an aerospace engineer.
>>27962503
>>27962862
>70 million dollars for a piece of shit tilt rotor craft that incorporates the worst of all worlds
How fucked are the marines gonna be when the next war happens and their V-22's are useless?
>>27965448
The thing is, the reason we know they were used is because flights in them WEREN'T recorded.
For some stupid reason Stalin and America shipped the pilots the planes but told them not to fly them.
Obviously they did.
>>27965564
>Marauder
My absolute nigga
Mitchellfags need not apply
![Junkers-Ju-87-Bergungsarbeiten-vor-Ruegen[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/URusyyj.jpg "Junkers-Ju-87-Bergungsarbeiten-vor-Ruegen[1].jpg")
>Le "Twas obsolete by BoB" meme
>>27963000
>I'm not sure how well that translates to non-engineers.
The most jargon-y term you used was "spars"
Anyone who graduated high school should be able to understand this. As a matter of fact, you explained that so simply and with so little math, that I don't think you're an engineer. Maybe an engineering student.
>>27965635
I think you meant to say "incorporates the strengths of fixed and rotorwing aircraft at the sacrifice of some safety features and simplicity"
>>27965775
costs like 70 million dollars, unarmed & unarmored and carries under 10,000 pounds
And you gotta replace the engines every 100 hours or so
>>27965793
>And you gotta replace the engines every 100 hours or so
>Osprey engines made in the strongest nation on earth during peacetime are as unreliable as shitty newly-made German jets in a wartime scenario bombed to shit all the time
kek
>>27962813
If Air superiority fighters are super models, then she is the girl next door.
>>27965832
Stupid analogy. Air superiority fighters would be athletes. Private jets would be supermodels.
>>27965656
They did have units officially flying them, but they were sent to the Far East for the coming invasion of Manchuria.
>>27965832
>That hump
Absolutely disgusting. Slim & Sexy Skyhawk-chan or git.
>>27966806
>>27966816
>>27966828
Nimrod, old so just bin them with no view to replacement.
Several years later a certain naval power has to make the call "Dear Messrs US of A can we have some of these pretty new MRA aircraft, pretty please?"
>>27966529
BIG IS BEAUTIFUL!
SEXY AT ANY SIZE!!
STOP BODY SHAMING THAT A4 YOU FUCKING SHITLORD!!!
>>27966866
Btw nukes and sidewinders have found their way onto those old buggers over the years.
Forgotten hero :-(
>>27966898
Have they sold this yet?
Vital early warning system for aircraft carriers, longest production run of any carrier based aircraft, and one of the very few that still uses turboprop.
Yet no one ever gives the Super Fudd its due.
>>27966876
I'm very sorry xir, I clearly haven't checked my privilege enough today.
>>27966915
>CEC, coming to a CSG near you
Super Fudd's about to be more relevant than ever.
>>27966977
CEC is truly glorious. Fuck your supersonic OTH sea-skimmers and bombers, now we can see them coming and engage them before they even get close.
I wonder if SM-3 and SM-6 will be getting any upgrades in the near-term though... I understand lasers and railguns are cool and all, but updating based SM-6 and based SM-3 will do things to my peepee I'm just not prepared for.
>>27966876
No. The A4 needs to lose some damn weight, that's why the Navy stopped using them. That fatass's massive bulk threatened to capsize their carriers.
>>27967493
>A4 is heavy
>10,000lb empty
>F4 was 30,000lb empty
>A6 was 24,000lb empty
>F/A-18 is 23,000lb empty
>>27962915
>cruising with ur 3 best buddies in a gold cockpit
feels good familia
