Why the fuck are these things so overpriced, /k/?
Because it's a proprietary weapon that rides off of nostalgia and fuddlore exaltation.
>>27949705
You literally just posted this thread you fucking faggot go away
M1A doesn't interest me, especially for its price. But crying about "overpriced" makes you sound like a salty poorfag, and you probably are. By what metric is an M1A "overpriced"? Next closest available M14 action available in the US is twice the price. You can't get M305's, and they aren't exactly god tier quality so who cares.
>>27949705
To me, the SCAR or the AUG would take the cake. Many would agree that the AUG is better though
>good weapon
>m14
pick one.
Because cheaper exported options were banned. For our own safety, you see. Totally not so American gun companies could run rampant with pricing and pull bullshit like charging four figures for a rifle with a MIM receiver from Brazil and cast parts from Taiwan.
>>27949763
lol its that one Canadian that cant figure out how to tune his 305 and bitches on every forum.
>>>/reddit/
>>27949734
>By what metric is an M1A "overpriced"?
I'm gonna go with "every fucking metric imaginable", and this is coming from someone who has no problem dropping $1500+ on a pistol.
Almost anything sold by H&K or Sig Sauer.
>>27949778
What a well thought out and nicely written answer.
except it wasn't, it was fucking retarded
>>27949775
>having to tune a rifle
>having to tune it so it can shoot 1.5 MOA
m14's are trash and thankfully they only are 500 bucks.
>>27949796
No need to get so pissy over people critiquing your purchase, poorfriend.
>>27949705
Is that a SOCOM 16 in a wood stock? My dick is diamonds.
That being said, the Scout Squad is superior and Springfield is super fucking overpriced because they can get away with it.
>>27949763
Funny, my untuned M305 has never had that problem
>tripfags
>shitposting endlessly
Pick both
>>27949804
its probably a fulton armory.
if you think springfield is overpriced think again
http://www.fulton-armory.com/fultonarmoryusriflecal762mmm14-1-1-1-3.aspx
>>27949803
I didn't purchase one you retard. I said right there >>27949734 I had no interest in M1A's, however I asked by what metric they were overpriced and you seem unable to answer the question
>>27949823
have you mounted a scope mount to it?
because that is not the only m14 I've seen do that and its always been Brass getting stuck underneath the scope mount in a weird way.
but hey, enjoy your 4 MOA gun.
>>27949778
>how is it overpriced?
> because it's overpriced!1!1!
Show me another .308 garand styled action you can find in the states for less than the Springfield. It may be expensive but you really can't say it's overpriced when there isn't anything competing with it.
>inb4 G3/fal clones/SCARS
People who buy these want m14's not ultimate oper8r battlerifles
>>27949763
Needs grease theres your problem.
>>27949878
> It may be expensive but you really can't say it's overpriced when there isn't anything competing with it.
Holy shit you are a fucking tool, and I'm not even the guy you are replying to
>>27949878
>made from cheap outsourced labor with MIM and cast parts
>$1500
>not overpriced
>>27949884
its got lots of grease already.
>>27949878
Yes you fucking can say something it is overpriced, because competitive availabaility does nothing to determine that. If a Hi-Point carbine was $3500 and there were no other PCCs available, it would still be overpriced, because there is a fuckhuge markup and doesn't come anywhere near to reflecting the actual performance and quality of the still-produced-in-quantity gun.
>>27949903
>I use buzzwords but dont know what they mean
>>27949910
Well then sorry you got a $500 lemon. Pic related
>>27949930
For someone accusing others of not making good counterarguments, you sure aren't doing yourself any favors. :^)
>>27949930
what fucking part of that had buzzwords in it?
>>27949878
>G3/fal
>opr8r battlerifles
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>>27949942
not really a lemon when its a design flaw.
>>27949954
I would like you to explain to me the detractors of metal injection molding and casting. While you are at it, what your perceived negatives out outsourcing are.
>>27949977
...Wow, you don't follow too well, huh?
>>27949969
Doesn't happen to mine how again is it a design flaw when it only seems to affect a small margin of rifles? Sounds like you have some buyers remorse.
>>27949977
you fucking retard, those weren't buzzwords and their inherent quality wasn't the point so much as the fact they are manufacturing methods and practices used specifically to churn out a cheaper product at a faster rate....jesus
>>27949993
>on mine
show me yours then.
and sure is, but I'll just resell it for more money because I know jackasses actually like M14's
>>27949986
I follow perfectly well. Here >>27949903
You used some buzzwords that I don't think you know the meaning of. And I asked that I >>27949977
would like you to explain to me what makes MIM and casting so bad, because that is what you are implying.
And you are still dancing around the question I asked.
>>27950011
Yes, they were buzzwords in that context.
>>27950017
>what makes MIM and casting so bad, because that is what you are implying.
How do you manage to not choke on your spit?
>>27950026
you don't know what buzzwords are
stop
>>27950041
Apparently you don't either
>>27950027
So are you physically incapable of answering the question?
>>27950012
>>27950026
No, how were
>MIM
>casting
meaningless jargon? Because that's what a buzzword is, an obnoxiously vapid word or term that has no really meaning and does nothing but sound nifty. Not something that directly correlates to the topic at hand, like manufacturing cost. Kill yourself.
>>27950053
>no scope mount
congratulations you don't have the issue I clearly stated
>>27950027
>>27950052
Jesus get a room already
>>27950052
>How is this overpriced?
>It's made using methods designed to produce cheaper products, and also uses cheap outsourced labor, both of which lead to a product that can be affordably priced as seen by the Chink M14s
>Stop using buzzwords
>What buzzwords
>You said MIM and casting were bad, explain why
>You're a fucking retard
>Oh, so you're physically incapable of giving an answer
I can only hope you're just trolling and aren't this mentally stunted.
>>27950059
Considering you are using them as an inherent denotation of "bad quality" yes they are meaningless jargon with no real meaning. You still haven't explained what makes MIM and casting so bad.
>>27950096
>you are using them as an inherent denotation of "bad quality"
No, you inbred cumstain, I'm using them as an inherent denotation of a cheaper manufacturing cost.
>>27950093
And you still haven't answered the question. Jesus fucking Christ I didn't ask what the meaning of life was. Phone a friend or use a life line if you have to for fucks sake
>Inb4 classic shitty arguments
Yes, you shouldn't have to replace the shitty magazine in a gun this price, but it's still a great weapon.
>>27950107
>answer a strawman question that has no relevance whatsoever
How about you go suckstart your dad's shotgun, Cletus.
>>27950096
you're dumb dude, sorry to be the one to break the bad news to ya
>>27950115
>quality is irrelevant to price of an object
Jej
It's literally not a strawman, and I am sorry that you can't answer the question.
Thanks for playing
>>27950126
At least you tried
But still didn't answer the question
In the future I will make sure to not ask those with crippling autism anything that requires critical thinking
>>27950134
>price always denotes quality
There really is nothing more infuriating than an idiot who thinks he's clever.
>>27950061
new pic happy now?
>>27950154
good for you then.
still doesnt change the inherent accuracy issue of the m14 and cost to upkeep it.
like I said, I'll just sell it,
>>27949878
CMP M1 Garand Special 308.
Garand action, Criterion barrel, same effective ROF (en blocs are faster than magazines).
>>27950096
Not the guy you were talking to, but lemme lay it out. Metals all have a crystalline lattice molecular structure. Cast metal has a less uniform grain in this structure, so it is more brittle. Forging a cast ingot will align the molecules in the metal, relieving weak points in the structure that lead to fracture. That alignment will allow the metal to more uniformly react to a force applied on it, which is important for parts that are repeatedy bashed around, like in a gun.
>>27949734
>But crying about "overpriced" makes you sound like a salty poorfag
i have a Chevy Malibu for sale for 1 billion dollars. interested?
>>27949828
>$3k
That's some expensive vanilla.
>>27950361
No, not particularly
>>27950429
why not? a little...OVERPRICED...for you?
itt: mad arfags who spend waaaaaay more than everyone else itt who mentions overpriced guns
>>27950301
use small words for him
>>27950454
I don't want a Chevy Malibu, so there is that. Nice attempt at being retarded, congrats you succeeded and also demonstrated your autism to us
>>27950463
I spelled it out, it's up to him to open his damn eyes.
>>27950494
he thought MIM and casting were buzzwords, you're dealing with a genuine retard
there are no significantly cheaper, better quality .308 semi rifles
you are retarded OP
>>27949705
Simple. The market for them is very small.
As such the price goes up.
This drives out even more customers, which drives out all but a few manufacturers who increasingly specialize in offering products to the very small percentage of old timers who refuse to give up.
Squeeze as much profit out them before the customer base dies.
The M14 is not over priced. Your just too poor to afford one.
>>27950537
FNAR
I mean this unironically
>>27950537
PTR91
>>27950576
>better quality
>>27950591
Yeah
>Parts are german or american made
>Not cast
>$899 vs $1200
>Can actually mount a scope
>>27949857
>hurr durr stovepipe with my mount
>must be the gun
Do u even Bassett?
Also, take that mount off and do you have the same problem? Durr....
>>27950558
>Market is very small
>Prices go up
That's not how economics work. Demand and price go up together. So if the market for them is small they should be dropping the price to increase demand. I mean shit if I owned a factory putting those together, I'm aware most people don't see the value of an M1A when they can get better rifles for cheaper. I would increase my production to the point where I had the lowest Marginal Cost and then sell all that shit at a price people would actually buy it for.
>too poor to afford one
>not over-priced
I dunno m8, seems to me that a semi-auto rifle is something that someone will either buy or not. Whoever that guy is he's going to buy something, and if it's not an M-14/M1a it's no loss to him, only the company that couldn't secure his business.
>>27950591
Nigger the PTR shits on just about any M14, especially the M1A or shitty chink clones. Sure you'll get better performance out of a match SEI M14 that's kept perfectly clean and dry sitting on its benchrest, but if you want to get into retarded safe/bench queen shit you can turn that PTR into a PSG-1 knockoff.
>>27950558
O 2
I 3
B 3
already done off on a good start
>>27949705
Final solution is always scar. However $2700 is a bit steep.
>>27950686
>better rifles for cheaper
Its not about that anon. Its a small market if they drop the price its not going to increase sales much.
Demand for a M14 clone is not going to go up. its probably going to go down.
I dont get this thread is everyone too poorfag to go and find an early SAI with all usgi shit for like 1500?
>>27950742
Logically speaking if they drop the prices, even with low-demand and a small market, they'll sell more units than if they maintain the current price levels. They run all these cost analysis's though and must have decided they don't care if they sell more of those. It's obvious though when you see so many people complaining about the price that there's probably a surplus of M1a's that people aren't buying because they feel the price level is too high.
That's all m8.
>>27950742
>If they drop the price the demand is just going to go down
lolwut? Did you sleep through economics in high school?
>>27950574
The FNAR looks butt ugly but it's shockingly accurate compared to any M1A.
>>27950742
literally nothing about your post makes any logical sense...
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>>27950164
ha fuck off skelly go be salty somewhere else
>>27951517
Agreed. I want one so bad, but the improvements dont justify anything over $800-1000
>>27949763
>glock
>good weapon
pick one
Same logic faggot
>>27951670
Except the Glock is actually a good weapon.
>>27949878
Isn't the Ruger Mini-14 the same thing more or less ?
>>27951678
Is it?
>>27951719
More or less yes its a tweaked mini version of a combination of the M1 and M14 actions
>>27951805
40 S&W always the best choice for exploding glawks
>>27951172
You do realize those were two different sentences. M1a demand will go down over time being one. And that the market is small so dropping the price won't increase sales much. There was never any correlation that dropping price would not increase sales. I guess reading comprehension was not your strong suit in highschool
>>27951813
Would that not make it the superior version then?
>>27952927
It was probably just he best way to miniaturize the system, ultimately the best version just what caliber you want it in or an M1 for custom chambering.
