Nov. 13 Paris attack
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Sounds from inside the bataclan:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8eb_1447973168#XLMGbg7X0RQyqIlx.99
Full auto, or multiple shooters shooting semi at once?
Personally, I think it sounds like full auto.
Full auto I would say. But maybe some AK owners can tell us.
>>27936900
Imagine being the janitor who has to clean that mess.
It sounds like a regular rate of fire when it's sustained, but it could be coincidence.
Probably full auto though.
>>27936953
>these damn kids and their crazy parties
>back in my day we danced to Glenn Miller with chaperones all around us, and we liked it
>>27936900
it's unclear early, but later in the audioclip you can clearly hear short bursts. So yes, full auto.
However, the EU will ban semi autos today, because you've got to control people somehow, and what better way than make them totally dependent on you for their own safety?
>>27936953
At least he would get monetarily compensated
>>27936953
Those specialist cleaning companies actually get paid a lot of money for cleaning up places where people die. But it's an extreme PTSD environment as you're always given very graphic details and you see the remnants of the last moments of someones life.
>>27937158
>the EU will ban semi autos today
source?
When?
Can we follow this vote somehow?
It can't be a full auto weapon...
Those are illegal!!
I'm telling you guys, this is some sort of fake.
>>27937164
hes being dramatic, they're drafting a proposal.
>>27936900
Maybe they are using bumpfire stocks.
>>27937164
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-15-6110_en.htm
>>27936900
>censored pic
Cmon, op.
>>27937242
Where were the most killed? At the concert?
>>27936900
It sounds like a mixture of both, someone opens up in full auto and the others are going semiauto.
>>27936900
Sounds like Lars Ulrich on the drums.
>>27936900
So much for "hostage situation"
>>27937162
You had me at "get paid a lot of money"
Where do I join?
>>27937142
Shouldn't have, but I keked
semi auto rapid fire
no potato
>>27937827
Listen to that cadence though.
It's either full auto, or an extremely unlikely coincidental joint firing in perfect rhythm, time and time again.
No way someone's pulling the trigger that quickly in a row without bump firing, which is highly unlikely.
>>27936900
I'm pretty sure all the Paris attackers used full auto. It's not like it's difficult to get in Europe.
>>27937876
Not to mention, I don't think these guys would be the type to settle for semi only AK's in the first place.
Cmon, OP.
>>27937242
I don't understand those blood smears. It looks like bodies were dragged.
>>27937887
It's true that this kind of situation (close quarters, lots of targets close together) is probably one of the only situations where FA is viable.
>>27937895
They were.
Wounded people were being dragged out in the streets during the shooting even.
>>27937895
My first impression was after execution the bodies were dragged to the right hand side.
If any bodies were removed you'd see blood on the stairs unless it was an ambulance or someone using something to move them.
>>27937906
>My first impression was after execution the bodies were dragged to the right hand side.
By the shooters? Why go through that much effort?
>>27937919
They didn't.
>>27937919
I honestly wouldn't know.
Besides that, if it was the cleaning crew I'm curious as to why they'd pile to the right then.
If bodies were removed, it makes me wonder how much more where actually there.
>>27937933
There are 27 bodies in the image.
There were fucking 89 people murdered in that building.
Imma think full auto, mainly because of the two shot bursts right before 1:20. Unless every other shooter just wanted to watch at those moments lol
>>27937160
>>27937949
Calm down, anon. I'm just vicariously looking at this, much like anyone else here.
>>27937162
When there's that much blood involved wouldn't they need to bring hazmat in to clean it all?
>>27937965
People "wondering" when the answer is actually right there just pisses me off is all.
>>27937965
https://vine.co/v/iugLbPwBXEE
>>27938028
Sometimes ignorance is bliss.
>>27938032
Kek
>>27937906
Wounded trying to crawl out/ people who hit the dirt trying to crawl out through the blood pool caused by letting full autos loose on a crowd
>>27938011
Yes. They will probably need new seating and flooring as well
>>27938082
>>27937919
>>27937906
It's from the police moving the wounded as they cleared the building.
>>27937162
you know, the more I hear about it, the more Im starting to think PTSD is bullshit
Being really uncomfortable and not being able to sit in a movie theater because back in 'nam your base was attacked mortars during movie time and you freezed up and sat still in your chair until someone dragged you out of the room, that sounds real
Cleaning up dead bodies, the only thing traumatic is the horrid chicken shit/vomit smell
>>27938136
>you know, the more I hear about it, the more Im starting to think PTSD is bullshit
That's just because the concept is festering in your stupid excuse for a mind.
>>27938136
You just admitted you think PTSD is a thing.
>>27938136
>Cleaning up dead bodies, the only thing traumatic is the horrid chicken shit/vomit smell
Says someone who has never moved bodies.
>>27938165
what am I missing here?
>>27938136
Should tune down the edge there, anon.
Unless you've actually been through something worth mentioning yourself, you never really know.
Hell, saying PTSD is bullshit while copping those who actually suffer is like saying rape victims are not real.
Sure, a lot of scumbaggy people out there do claim PTSD or false rape for the wrong reasons.
It's just fucking sad that people exploit and fuck over those who really do need help.
>>27938191
well how many morticians complain of PTSD?
>>27938172
Human empathy anon, when you handle bodies, if you can't totally emotionally detach yourself (so, you internet badasses out there are fine) you tend to think about the people you're actually moving, when you add on traumatic cause of death (suicide, murder, children, etc etc) that shit starts to follow you. You put yourself into their shoes, you think about what happened to them or what they were thinking, how could this happen, being confronted with mortality on a constant basis is a fucking bitch.
Hell, I can't smell rotting meat/garbage without wanting to fucking wretch because I had to do a couple of moves while I was an EMT, sure, it isn't full blown PTSD, but I've seen that shit change people.
>>27938219
I wouldn't know since I don't know any.
I can tell you though that PTSD seems to be something that affects everyone differently.
Some say you're not human if fucked up shit like this really affects you.
In the end, talk is cheap. If you've ever been there physically standing next to someone you cared about and watched them die in any way - and you don't give a fuck, then good for you?
>>27938219
It depends, I wouldn't look fine if you asked me to move a dead body and as soon as I moved it the brain leaked from one hole. I'm no mortician.
>>27938245
this wasnt about loved ones dying, this was about cleaning up gruesome crime scenes
>>27938240
who said anything about not having empathy? Death connects everyone, we're all going to die
>>27938260
I used the loved ones dying perspective since being emotionally connected to someone would obviously affect you if they suddenly just up and die.
Cleaning a gruesome crime scene or not, PTSD is still something.
>>27938279
stop acting like a used car salesman to express an argument
>>27938297
>posts edgy post
>asked simple rhetorical questions in perspective
>"Stop trying to argue with me!"
>lol ok dumbass
>>27937753
underrated post
>>27936900
Found another angle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXg3V9Yp4zM
>>27938319
more like
>argue better faggot
appeal to emotion is liberal-tier stuff
>>27938335
Would you, or would you not be affected and traumatized from seeing a loved one of yours being shot in the fucking head, right now, anon?
Stop avoiding the question. You can't because obviously you would and have a form of PTSD from it.
It's common sense.
It's normal to not give a shit about the well being of anyone else except for the few you may actually care for.
If you're gonna bring liberal this and liberal that into this go the back to /pol/ edgy little bitch.
>inb4 mad
>>27938356
>cleaning up dead bodies doesnt sound horribly traumatic
>OH YEAH, WHAT IF YOUR MOTHER DIED IN HER SLEEP, YOU'D BE TRAUMATIZED THEN!!!!!!!!
>>27938378
I'm willing to bet you would be, considering she brings you your pizza bites for dinner.
Do we have any clear idea yet about how it all went down? Where they came in from, where they moved, what they did, etc.
>>27938395
Yeah, the Bataclan guys clumsily parked their car somewhere, sat around glowering at passers-by for a while, and then went in.
Some dude reported the suspicious car when they arrived, calling police many times, and a police car drove by but just kept driving.
>>27937142
Kekki breeki
>>27938476
Well, I meant when they got into the theater. Like did they fan out, if they threw grenades where and how effective. The details of the attack itself. I think it goes without saying that they sat around looking edgy before while reports of suspicious behavior went unacted on.
>>27936900
full auto, but if it wasn't they are pros at bump firing
>>27937242
Diversity: It's a Drag.
>>27938652
Sometimes it's like the captcha knows...
>>27938136
My dad did this sort of thing. You don't realize how much of a physical and emotional toll cleaning up bodies, guts, etc is until you're actually doing it. He always told me that he was re-living the last moments of their lives every day. Mind you, he did this sort of thing at the height of the drug war in Miami during the 80's and 90's.
He made a lot of jokes to help him cope with the trauma. He still makes a lot of jokes about dead people.
>>27938219
I worked at a coroners office for a while interning as a pathologists assistant. Wiping down bodies, taking inventory of personal items, taking pictures, observing/assisting during autopsies (weighing organs, taking notes, putting samples in formaldehyde), and checking out photos from the death scenes. Only had a few decomp cases where we had to use a secondary room with better ventilation. I'll answer whatever weird death questions people have, I observed a little over 30 posts and spent 150 hours there... saw a lot of suicides, automobile accidents, and overdoses primarily.
>>27938240
they didn't have a pickup guy from your local office take care of moves?
>>27938869
that's the joke.
>>27937242
>posting the edited version
Faggot
>>27938952
if they died in a bad automobile accident, are all their parts just stored in a bag?
wiping down the bodies and cutting out things to weigh sounds like the worst part
>>27939420
well the pathologists take out all the organs in one big block, then give them to me to weigh them, then dissect them individually. Wiping them down isn't that big of a deal, little spray and rag just to get dried blood off, it's not like an extensive sponge bath or something. And if they're not all in one piece, they just put it all in the body bags as best they can. One guy shot himself in the head with a shotgun, and they have to be measured, but his head was basically gone, so we just gave it our best guesstimate. After the autopsy, all organs are placed in a biobag, and that goes back in their emptied torso. Stinkiest part of a normal autopsy is probably cutting the intestines down when there's shit starting to form or using the bone saw on skulls, that shit stinks.
OP
Sounds like semi auto to me. The ''bursts'' could just be some one double or tripple tapping.
>>27937174
>they're drafting a proposal.
No, the proposal is old and now they are just using the attack as an excuse to push it through.
>>27940336
It's either full auto, or coincidental simultaneous fire.
It's way too quick and regular to be anything else.
Not unless they had a slide stock, or know how to bump fire two-shot bursts (lol)
>>27938332
Damn, that nigger on the left had some good reaction time.
Night clubs are such death traps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOzfq9Egxeo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZAECFkP6oA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxCU0o4WtpE
>>27941652
concert hall =/= night club
??? ?? ??
>>27941661
Uhh they both play music I guess? Sorry anon I wasn't thinking.
>>27941759
why the fuck are you posting on /k/ if you don't know the difference.
>>27941813
>/k/
knightclubs and koncert halls?
>>27941843
I would definitely go to a knightclub.
>>27941902
With the crew?
>>27938165
>Complaining about the smell.
>Not the purported Rectal Prolapse.
how did the band survive, i'm wondering, they were literally the centerpiece.
>>27942214
They were on the other side of the concert hall from where the Derpesh came in and had a crowd of people between them. They all escaped through a back entrance behind stage.
>>27939301
Posting the pic with cancer...tisk tosk
>>27938240
I'm an EMT as well, and to be honest I haven't had any kind of issues. Then again I've got deep rooted emotional issues with relationships and the like, so that's probably why I don't really react or connect to any of that shit.
>>27936953
Go buy Viscera Cleanup Detail on Steam.
Your role is the guy who has to clean up the space stations after the space marines and aliens finish fighting. It's oddly fun, trying to imagine how the fighting went down.
>>27936900
>Full auto, or multiple shooters shooting semi at once?
sounds to me like short bursts of fully-automatic fire.
>>27937919
>By the shooters?
No, retard.
This is a picture taken after the building was cleared. The wounded were dragged out of the hall first so that they could be treated immediately. The dead were left lying were they were for the time being and then removed last.
>>27938800
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=412_1448049221
Much better quality sound than the OP video
>>27943233
How can cleaning up the aftermath of videogame shootouts be so comfy?
>>27938952
Stories. Give us weird stories.
Pleaaase
>>27943385
sorry, left for my other job. What you read above is pretty typical to be honest, not a lot of crazy 'stories'. I read some fucked up suicide note 'texts' to family members that were sad but unremarkable. I could give you some vague stories, but I signed an NDA, so no local news clips to go along with anything. If you're still checking out the thread let me know, I'll be up for a bit.
>>27936900
one of the videos where a terrorist comes running out of an alley/doorway/arch and comes to a complete stop then backpedals firing about 10 rounds is a semi auto. the "oh shit" moment would have been priceless, be running through an alley and stumble out in front of 6 armed officers (too bad they were french and ran away)
sounds just like me shooting my AK on semi
vid related for reference, it's easier to tell with sound but it's pretty damn fast.
>>27944963
pay attention on the left here, that's the muzzle flash with a home made 3 prong flash hider
>>27943343
definitely semi
>>27944988
but at 1:12 they switch to full auto bursts
>>27944998
Agreed, that's full auto bursts, This was when the exit was being crowded up, it's also where most of the people died
>>27942730
If you look at those curtains on the bottom right, and past where the body is lying on the far left, those two points were chock-points where people were confined and slaughtered. The bodies you do see were the first to die.
Full auto at the faster shooting, most definitely. With an AK it's kinda easy to shoot one shot at a time even with the selector set on full auto, so dont let that distract you.
>>27938491
I'm new here, your comment has confirmed my stay.
A lot of loyalty for a hired terrorist.
>>27936900
Does anyone else smell copper looking at that picture?
>>27937782
Just google stuff like "crime scene cleanup" and look up any local companies
That probably won't get you put on any lists you aren't already on for posting here.
>>27945367
You must have served.
Thanks. No sarcasm. Zero. But no.
>>27945367
I can smell bronze, concrete dust, and copper, plenty of that. Rust too.
>>27942730
>cancer
Yes, those refugees sure are that.
>>27944963
You simply cannot get the kind of rhythm heard in this shooting without either full auto, telepathic fire coordination, or a slide stock.
Realistically, it's full auto.
If you're going to tell me you can fire two-shot bursts like the ones heard here >>27943343
at 1:11, I'm afraid I'm going to have to call you a liar.
In response to the pstd shitopsting iWas a volunteer firefighter till I picked up most of a baby early one morning. Just couldnt do it anymore. And I cant hold my neice anymore. Shit sucks
>>27943343
sounds like some had semi and some had auto
>>27946166
>sounds like some were shooting semi and some were shooting auto
ftfy
Also, it's pretty easy to shoot single shots out of an AK in the auto setting.
Vereybody come on ! enter !
>>27943362
Satisfies your OCD.
>>27936900
I didn't hear anyone scream Aloha Snackbar, or that "this is for syria".
Also, what's with the trails of blood? It's as though the corpses were dragged across the floor, as opposed to crawl.
>>27936900
sounds like the religion of peace
>>27938240
>while I was an EMT
ive never met an EMT that wasnt a bleeding heart faggot, its not the act of moving bodies its more of who you are.
exact reason why this guy isnt a faggot, hes an EMT but obviously an outlier. >>27943080
>>27936900
At some points it seems a bit slow for automatic fire, but then I hear bursts.
It seems to me like a single shooter, firing controlled bursts from a full auto gun.
>>27938165
Different anon but i
I've had to move horse fetuses. That shit is nasty yo. Enjoy this sweet pic of dead horses. I can only imagine how horrible it must be to spend hours and hours cleaning up the blood, shit, and guts of another human being.
>>27936900
>http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8eb_1447973168#XLMGbg7X0RQyqIlx.99
totally controlled full auto
that's not even a question
>tfw every liberal shitbox is praying over a bunch of edgy hipsters who died at a FUCKING DEATH METAL CONCERT.
>NOT IRONIC.
>>27947858
>these guys liked a type or music
>because of that, they deserved to die
watch out for that edge anon, it's razor sharp.
>>27947858
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLVLRpKtYc
>this is the band that played on nov 13
>go google : Kyuss; Queens of the stone age, and them crooked vulture
>then die untermensch
>>27936900
Why not just post the video of the attack itself instead of audio?
>>27936900
>Western imperialist scum getting a taste of their own medicine.
>>27946348
post-clearing, wounded taken out and the dead are what's left.
