Mosin Nagant
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I want to get a Mosin Nagant.
What should I know about it?
That your a little late to the party.. No more cheap nugz
That it's no longer cheap now. Neither is the surplus ammo.
>>27926402
190 instead of 100 isn't that bad considering other milsurp pricesq
>>27926404
>>27926402
Cabela's has them for $160, how is that not cheap?
>>27926389
Don't do it. They're not worth it anymore. The prices on the rifles and surplus ammunition have increased exponentially in the last months. Save your money and buy something nice. As for me I can't sell this meme, it's apart of me.
>>27926419
Check to see if your store has them. Mine did not and they said that they hadn't had them for a couple of years.
>>27926404
still isnt that expensive. got mine before it reallly went up luckily though.
>>27926389
Most Soviet Nuggets are literal and figurative shit. Look for a Finn M39 as babby's first nugget.
>>27926628
wartime 91/30s can be a little rough sure, but they arent bad rifles.
>>27926628
also, yes, M39s are nice.
>>27926676
>Finn Capture M91
All my jelly. Best I got is my wartime M39 from 1941; I should take some pics because she's beautiful, but man i'm jelly of your M91.
Most anything you could possibly want to know about a nugget can be found on 7.62x54r.net - a better version of this guide, an identification flowchart, and even guides to disassembly with pictures at each step.
What should you know? It's still pretty cheap for what it is, as is the surplus ammo if you can find it.
It's a bargain but that doesn't mean it's particularly great, although as some anons have already said not all nuggets are made equal.
If you buy one fresh from the crate getting the cosmoline out of it will be a pain in the ass.
>>27926704
A guy wants to trade my Sestroryetsk for his Tula M44... dont think im going to do it.
>>27926720
Also, all surplus ammo (as in: anything that costs less than $0.50 a pop) is corrosive.
This is not nearly as bad as it sounds, though. It just means you've got to neutralize the corrosive salts in the barrel after shooting, which can be done by running blackpowder eating agents down it. If you're cheap you can also use soapy water, or even just piss down the barrel. Just make sure you do it soon after shooting so the salts have minimal time to work at the barrel.
You will also occasionally pierce a primer; when this happens, you'll know because an evil cloud of gaseous yuck will issue forth when you open the bolt. This just means you need to take the bolt completely apart and clean it out as well after you're done shooting; this also helps fight sticky bolt syndrome, so it's a good thing to do regardless.
>>27926748
>You will also occasionally pierce a primer
Not if you headspace correctly. Most 91/30s will have a headspacing tool which, if used properly, will prevent any primer piercings. I've shot about a thousand or two rounds through my 91/30 and M39 and have never had any problems.
>>27926772
yes. check your firing pin protrusion. always.
guns cheap
ammos cheap
round is powerful
historical
shooting it is fun
its very loud
heavy recoil
bolt is hard to work
full size is long as fuck
surplus ammo is corrosive
fuck it up? buy a new one.
one of 37 million
>>27926419
A year ago, I saw them for $120 everywhere.
Save your money and get a nice rifle.
>>27926843
What is a nice rifle?
>>27926846
I don't know, what do you want to use it for? Do some research outside of /k/.
>>27926772
just fyi, firing pin protrusion is not headspacing. You typically can't fix headspace unless you know how to install a new barrel. You can try new bolts, but that's pure luck. Either way might as well get a new gun in if headspace is out of spec.
>>27926860
Changing out a barrel isn't difficult.
Vise, pipe wrench and a cheater pipe.
>>27926628
>Most Soviet Nuggets are literal and figurative shit.
i disagree. you must have had bad luck with yours. my 1938 Izzy is a dream to shoot. bolt throw is very smooth, rifling is strong, pretty much squared away
>>27926860
>Either way might as well get a new gun in if headspace is out of spec.
just like the Enfield bolt head, you can buy a few boly hrads and check them with a gauge
>>27926854
Or I could ask questions here...
killing coyotes in style.
Can we get a current pricing info? Or does such even exist
>>27926860
>firing pin protrusion is not headspacing.
I'll blame that mistake on the vodka, you're right. However, firing pin protrusion can be adjusted very easily if you're blowing primers - you shouldn't ever need a new bolt to stop blowing primers.
Picked up this Izzy its and ex dragoon dated for 1825.Its all matching with a matching baynoet.Got it for 220$.I wanna do a pu build but i would feel bad drilling this one.
But i know a guy with a 1943 izzy still covered in cosmoline that he will sale for 120$.But Accuracy between the two is gonna be the desideing factor for the scope.
>>27926934
>dated for 1825 goddamitt i need to stop drinking
>>27926874
without the right tools it'll won't be that easy nor pretty. I've never changed a barrel on a nugget though, only an AR. And the prices of a barrel vise and action wrench is already the same price as the rifle itself. A smith will probably charge you at least an hour worth of labor, which around me is 50-100 bucks. then there's the cost of a new barrel.
>>27926903
If you can find and try them before buying, sure, but buying a ton of bolt heads seems like a waste of money. They are around 30 bucks each before shipping.
>>27926921
I was talking about actual headspacing.
>>27926934
>>27926946
Listen closely you fucking nigger: don't you fucking dare even think of drill/tapping that ex-dragoon, you little fucking shit. First of all, if you're going to get a PU scope make sure all the parts are authentic and match, do research first. Second, keep your nigger fucking hands and power tools away from that fucking ex-dragoon. PU snipers were built on round receiver M91/30s so find one at your LGS with good rifling and you're good to go.
Also, don't you fucking touch that ex-dragoon, faggot.
>>27926988
The 1943 izzy im looking at has perfect rifling.Odds are its gonna be the one i mount the scope to sense its all matching to.The only reason id do it to the dragoon is if the 1943 is not accurate enough.This Dragoon is a tack driver.
>>27926988
get your own faggot.
Thankfully I bought my M44 for $100 privately. guy didn't know what he had. They aren't as cheap as they use to be.
>>27927238
Would it be worth picking M44 up still packed with cosmoline for 160?
>>27927255
Heck yeah. Especially if it's in good condition.
Embrace it.
>>27928343
Saved.
>>27926389
i got a russsian 91/30 and finn m39 i love them i paid 250 for my m39 no regrets there if you find a m39 there one of the best mosins out there
>>27926934
PLEASE DONT HURT THAT PEICE OF HISTORY ITS SO BEUTIFUL
>>27927255
You'd be stupid not to do that.
Even if you didn't like it you could sell it for at least $300.
Pic related was my m44 that I sold for $300, I miss it every day.
That they're garbage
>>27926389
Not bad rifles. They can still be had for good prices depending on where you look. If you're intent on getting one make sure you check the bore. If its got a lot of pitting I wouldn't go for it. Try to look for a hex receiver too. I got my all matching Tula hex with 20 rounds, cleaning kit, oil can, pouches and a sling for $250 at a gun show. Also check the action. Make sure its smooth and not all sticky.
>>27926404
.25/round for surplus ammo on sgammo. thats pretty fucking cheap.
>>27926628
My 33 tula is gr8 m8
>>27926934
Ex-Dragoon mustard race
It's a club that resembles a rifle that the great white slav emperor had semi-functional peasants whittle out of fenceposts and rejected locomotive wheels to hand out in staggeringly huge numbers to staggeringly untrained retard conscripts in hopes they could somewhat operate it in the general direction of Mother Russia's enemies. Co-opted by Bolshevik subhumans to shoot aforementioned emperor, as well as pretty much anything else that moves in every dank, dark corner of the world for the past hundred years. Will fling stupid huge bullet at minute-of-capitalist at a range no one can determine because its measured in arshins, which is a unit roughly approximate to a peasants years supply of potatoes laid end to end. Most found now will be packed in a petroleum like substance made from hell's sewage run off and the boiled down remains of enemies of glorious Russia, which requires JP-8 through a pressure washer to somewhat clean off. What else do you want to know?
>>27926934
http://www.armslist.com/posts/4873687/charlotte-north-carolina-rifles-for-sale-trade--1925-ex-dragoon-mosin-nagant-all-matching
Did you just buy that nigger?
>>27926389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifp3xOM7ZDg
very related
>>27926904
sks
>>27926389
I shot it once but my impression was that the recoil isn't all that bad, it's comparable to accidentally walking into someone. The bolt feels fucking awful though and the trigger felt like I was trying to drag it across sand paper.
>>27929659
>>27926904
Seconding SKS.
>>27929534
No.thats my add i put it up for shiggles.I like to see what kind of offers i get.
>>27929433
When I bought mine they said it was an ex-dragoon but how can you actually tell if that's true?
>>27926720
1000x this. pretty much the definitive source for Nugget information
>>27931397
If you have a Mosin in M91/30 configuration, dated before 1930, but with all the features of the common M91/30 like the flat tangent-leaf rear sight (introduced around 1929/30) and hooded front sight (introduced 1933) then there's a 99% chance your rifle is an ex-M91 Dragoon. There are some confirmed instances of M91 long rifles having their barrels cut down to Dragoon/M91-30 length, but they are quite rare.
>>27931571
Ok
mine is a 1932 so i guess they just thought a hex receiver = ex dragoon
>>27926599
Wow, you have a nice property
>>27931767
Yes, yours was built as an M91/30. They didn't stop making hex receivers until 1936.
>>27926402
I bought one yesterday "new" for $300 CAD. Which is about 230 in freedombux.
Never bothered looking up the price history. Did I get hoodwinked?
>>27926404
100 FMJ 7.62x39 surplus rounds for 25 USD up here in canada. What were they before?
>>27932062
That's not 7.62x54r
>>27926704
I know a guy selling a m91 Westinghouse fin capture if you interested
>>27932050
Can't speak for Syrup, but until Sandy Hook, Only very nice 91/30's (Hex/ExDrag) went north of $150, M44's $200, and everything else occupying the 2-500 range, with Snipers and Finns occupying the top rung.
>>27932108
I'm a retard
>>27932222
It's pretty much circling 200 with transfer for basic nugget now
>>27926389
1891 was designed as a spear that could sometimes be used to fire bullets.
1891/30 was designed as a club that could be fired a little more often.
Jokes aside, they are perfectly usable bolt action rifles, accurate enough, the triggers are nothing to write home about, but work.
Basically they are a bit crude, but reliable.
>>27931784
not my property, just where I was living. My new place has a similar backyard except im at the bottom of a hill instead of on the hill
I like how the Mosin is more like a poorfag's collectors piece than a rifle you actually go to shoot on /k/.
I have never once seen a range report with anyone's Mosin, seems like most owners don't even shoot it.
>>27926918
>Can we get a current pricing info?
$179 + figure on spending another $30 or so to get something hand selected:
>http://www.southernohiogun.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=mosin+nagant&x=0&y=0
Maybe 10 bucks more, still figure on paying extra for hand select:
>http://www.southernohiogun.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=mosin+nagant&x=0&y=0
You can also get pretty nice stuff from time to time at themosincrate.com, but you're gonna pay more.
>>27933148
I fucked up the second link, fixing it:
>>https://www.classicfirearms.com/lng-m91-30-nagant
Nice deal on hex receivers i found.
https://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=100001777&dir=700|701|1029
>>27933531
Out of stock tho.
>>27933836
fuck......
>>27926389
It's a very high end rifle and an antique. Expect to pay an upwards of $500 for one if you're lucky. I'll sell you mine for 400 just because we're friends.
>tfw still don't have a regular run-of-the-mill wartime mosin
>tfw spoiled by the ex-dragoon, pu sniper, and m39
>>27934115
pic related: my mosins
there is a local man selling his M44 for $120
Should I jump on that like a kid who got a trampoline for Christmas?
I would obviously look it over in person before buying it.
>>27934135
Bottom one is Finnish M39? How much ya paid for it?
>>27934362
yeah, its a sako. Got it from classicifrearms first batch at around 380$ Really nice rifle.
>>27934138
Yes.
>>27926389
Make sure it is not covered with shitty writing in marker from the importer, or filled with cosmoline. They are very accurate, even when rusty. Also make sure to use non corrosives
>tfw selling one of my m91s
It hurts a little, but the money goes to a good cause.
>>27926934
hey man just get a cheapo 91/30 if you wanna do a PU build
>>27934427
Just clean the fucking rifle after using corrosive ammo , it doesn't hurt to run a bore snake and some gun oil over your weapons after use.
>>27926389
I bought one just last week , good condition stock and the bore is brilliant , a 1938 M-91/30 Tula all matching numbers.
$450Au , which is a good price for Australia.
I remember back a few years ago when you could get them for $350 from Lawrance Ordnance , we should have been able to get them for about $99Au back when they were $79US.
No cosmoline to clean off and she's all good.
>>27932885
I shoot it, I shoot the hell out of mine.
I go to the range, drop 10 rounds in a minute, and enjoy seeing people stare at me like I'm crazy.
I enjoy some guy at the police range 50 yards away rattling out a mag from an M4 after, and then I enjoy firing one more just to yell louder.
Guns a gun, "collectors piece", shove a piece up your ass.
>>27932885
I actually shoot deer with mine.
I just don't feel like waving it around on facebook.
*I don't even use facebook
![mosin_nagant_with_archangel_od_green_stock_pic_1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3M119og.jpg "mosin_nagant_with_archangel_od_green_stock_pic_1[1].jpg")
I do not regret doing this to my nugget
>1938 tula
>>27936487
that's one ugly fucking fun
>>27929456
>>potatoes laid end to end
top kek
>>27926402
Just got a nice Izzy 91/30 for $125. It is in great shape, pristine rifling, arsenal refinished matching #s etc. Sling, bayonet, and a handfull of hand-loads. It's not like a few years ago when you were only paying $50 for a Mosin, but it is still really cheap for what it is.
>>27932050
>300$ for a nugget
Jesus was it at least an M44?
>>27932885
Or you could lurk more you fucking faggot. I posted range reports for a dozen nuggets over the years, including their accuracy with surplus, the issues each individual had, how to fix those issues (when fixable), as well as being blown away by the accuracy and level of refinement vs standard 91/30s that both of the authentic PUs had. I didn't see any range reports on any other rifle on /k/ today, so I guess my confirmation bias is telling me that there aren't any shooters on /k/.
Can I ask a bitch question for a second?
How can a rifle Invented in 1891 be dated back to 1825?
>>27938352
Moon shine does magical things to ones brain.
Mosin Nagant or SKS?
I just picked up some 7.62x54r
The BRASS has small dents in it, smaller than a pen cap
is this okay?
>>27939441
Id go with the sks.
>>27939984
Pics?
where can you find a good quality nagant?
are there any crates of mosins around?
>>27940357
www.themosincrate.com
>>27939441
Finn M27/M38/M38-30= PU Sniper > SKS > Russian M38 > Finn M91 > Russian M91 > M44 = 91/30 > Chinese T53
Prices also happen to go this way.
>>27940377
Oops, M39 should be up there with the other Finns and PU Sniper. My bad.
>>27940357
Crates, not really. I'd wait till Alden at The Mosin Crate has his new inventory in a week or two. He's a collector and shooter like us who usually puts up really high quality rifles at pretty competitive prices. Got my M39 from TMC, was cheaper than Classic and he details the quality with pictures and long descriptions for each weapon.
>>27940363
You know for a site named the mosincrate there isn't very many mosins for sale on it.
>>27940516
He doesn't keep inventory listed on the site, for the most part. He accumulates rifles, then publishes a list on the site a day or two before he puts them on sale. And they go fast, once that happens.
>>27926389
Not sighted with modern ammo.
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Ammo FYI: If you have Academy in your area, they dropped the price on 7.62x54R spam cans by $20 recently:
>http://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/monarch-762-x-54-r-185-grain-non-corrosive-rifle-ammunition?repChildCatid=1206277
>>27938352
>Dated back 1825.
Funny how an encased bullet was never invented back then ether.
Here's my Chinese M53. Bought this one b/c the full length mosin is just too damn long for my riflebags (I would have to use a tactical black sock to cover the exposed barrel).
Good little rifle. It has like five moving parts - dead simple to take apart and put back together.
Shoots a little to the left but i'm too lazy to bring a punch and hammer to the range to adjust the front sight. So I just aim a little to the right.
>http://www.amazon.com/Mosin-Nagant-Range-Buddy-Adjustment/dp/B00HTB32LM
Might not make sense if you only have one. But if you have more, it's handy.
>>27942885
Or even:
>http://www.amazon.com/Mosin-Nagant-Postwar-Chinese-Adjustment/dp/B00NU74QQE/ref=pd_sim_200_5/177-0673633-3589849?ie=UTF8&dpID=31HnBbf4t0L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1FTJ95Q6BCBGK00C607E
>>27942819
I want one of these just because I can and they are still cheapish.
>>27940377
Yeah, I have a PU and it's my baby.
There's a M44 Mosin Nagant Carbine at a pawn shop not far from me for $220, should I get it?
>>27926402
This
>See nuggets on sale for $120 earlier this year
>Wanna buy one at September
>Can't find one under $230
What the actual fuck happened
>>27943655
>Can't find one under $230
have you actually, y'know, looked?
http://www.armslist.com/posts/4701376/california-rifles-for-sale--mosin-nagant-crate
https://www.classicfirearms.com/lng-m91-30-nagant
http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=mosin+nagant&BuyNowOnly=1&Sort=4&Tab=2
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Mosin-Nagant-Model-Rifle/710007.uts
>>27943457
Talk them down for $200.
There's an SKS for $199 at my local Canadian Tire, even considering the history and still cheaper nugget, is that a good buy?
