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thoughts on suppressed slavshit?
>>27840692
Piston pop/10
Anu sneeki breeki
>>27840700
Gives me a hard on
>>27840692
they are cool
>>27840692
Better than any shit overpriced western shit.
I fucking love AKMSs with PBS-1s. Gonna build a Russian clone when I get the money together.
>>27840692
AK74 milsurp suppressors are nonexistent in the US market.
>>27841033
Where then ?
In eurokek silencers are assassin's weapons and anyone who buys them intends to commit crime in silence
>>27841116
>In eurokek silencers are assassin's weapons and anyone who buys them intends to commit crime in silence
Wat?
In Finland and Norway they are pretty standard when hunting.
Starting to become popular in Sweden too.
>>27840745
>>27840770
I'm absolutely baffled by their simplicity!
Suppressed anything is better than unsuppressed anything. So it's good.
>>27840745
That is a LOT of baffles.
>>27840783
Found the assblasted vatnik
>>27840692
read somewhere that AKs tend to have bore concentricity issues and are therefore hard to suppress.
Could be bullshit from the hurr-durr commie guns are shit crowd though.
>>27841116
Don't comment on things you know nothing about cock muncher.
>>27841258
No, that's a real thing. It's mostly an issue with the threaded FSBs, threaded barrels are usually fine. Most of the AK-specific suppressors on the US market are 14x1 L for that reason.
>>27841190
>>27841183
Belgium, France, UK, Lux, NL, Spain, ... you know the countries that matter
>>27841326
>Belgium, France, UK, Lux, NL, Spain, ... you know the countries that matter
come again please?
>>27841326
>cherrypicking
disgusting
>>27841116
completely dead wrong, in most european countries there is no legislation on silencers since they're seen as a good thing for reducing hearing damage, minimizing noise pollution, etc.
>>27840770
Is this really all there is inside a PBS2?
>>27841326
>Spain
>Matters
Choose only one
>>27840692
All slavs are suppressed by Americans forcing their opinions and revisionist history down our throats. We never get to talk and when we do we just get called "vatnik". From today forward, I am starting the Slavenist movement.
>>27841326
>UK
>Luxembourg
>matter
You act like they can manage to remove the throbbing Salafist cock from their collective rectums
>Spain
>Paella niggers mattering one iota since the mid-18th Century
>>27841489
Yes.
There's a reason they're completely shit at actually suppressing anything.
Hell the vaunted 9x39 subsonic through the mystical AS VAL's 2-foot-long integral suppressor is still louder than 5.56 from a 14.5" barrel unsuppressed, because it's literally 4 washers tack welded to the inside of a tube.
>independent testing shows that the AS VAL has a sound signature of 158dBa by normal testing procedures
>independent testing shows that military-issued SP6 ammunition had such poor quality control MV's ranged from 525fps to 1480fps (supersonic) from the same lot through the same gun
>>27840692
I went to a suppressor demo a couple of weeks ago at a gun club.
There were a couple of AKs there with 30cal cans on them.
I'm sure the ammo was still super sonic, but it was not even a little quiet.
Putting a suppressor on an AK is basically totally pointless.
It's a waste of time and money.
Contributing
>>27842297
>>27842371
>>27842222
>MV's ranged from 525fps to 1480fps (supersonic) from the same lot
What the fuck.
You almost have to TRY to fuck it up that badly.
>>27842411
I know. Which is a fucking shame, round is cool as fuck.
>am now wondering if all their "penetration tests" were done with super-hot, supersonic loads since the round's construction would indicate it shouldn't be able to penetrate rifle plates at subsonic velocities
Wonder if the SP5 has any stricter QC. Sadly I've not been able to find any independent testing on it and the very small amount of Russian-gov testing had it showing unrealistically consistent results (hey this round, despite being steel-cased and showing blatantly obvious variances in bullet uniformity that are so obvious it's clearly visible in these handfuls of standard-def YT vids, seriously have a less-than-half-m/s ES and 1/8th m/s SD across 10,000 rounds really guise plzbeliveus!)
>>27841025
More pics
>>27842517
>>27842233
does this include 5.45 and pistol caliber AKs?
>>27843036
the best indicator of if a weapon/caliber is worth suppressing is if it has sub-sonic ammo
Just like suppressing a 223/556 is pointless. Subsonic ammo for it ends up being worse than .22LR. Also, just good luck finding subsonic 223. At least 556 is quieter when shooting supersonic, but 762 out of an AK was still loud as fuck.
so for 5.45, I would say probs not
pistols are different, they are much easier to suppress
>>27843036
also, piston guns might also be louder due to more moving parts. The piston whacking probably makes noise.
a DI AR-15 on the other hand wouldn't have that
I have a 300 blackout SBRed AR. If you actually want quiet, this is what you should be thinking about, honestly. Not an AK.
>>27842222
>>27842463
where is your sauce mother fucker
SP-6 don't even have enough case volume to make it supersonic
>>27843107
this looks promising for 5.45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h_VvQBfK5A
>>27843327
>SP6 doesn't have enough case volume for supers
Unless they use a small flake or ball pistol/shotgun powder. Or are so fucking horribly inconsistent on their QC that projectile dimensions or case dimentions would allow some cases to have significantly more volume than others.
The latter is absolutely true, at least with SP6. Google 9x39 sectioned rounds and you can literally see the variances. The former is most likely true because that's what most heavy subsonic rifle rounds use (subsonic .308 typically uses Red Dot, a 12/20ga shotgun powder, most popular .300blk loads use H110 or Lil'Gun, a .410 shotgun powder, some use 3000MP which is a magnum pistol powder....).
>>27843416
Yeah that does.
The typical Russian suppressor, such as the PBS-1 (which is so old it would be like the US military still using a Maxim suppressor) or the integral cans on the VSS or AS Val, however, favored simplicity and durability over performance and weight (unlike American cans). They're fucking horrible at reducing sound signature but run almost a zero percent chance of a baffle strike and have pretty decent mounts.
With supersonic ammo it's really not much of an issue. The biggest benefit is they're the world's greatest flash suppressor, and as a main combat arm quiet is both relative and not that important.
However, it's a shame the suppressor on the VSS/AS Val is so shit though. That round has SO much potential to be extremely quiet, and then they use the cheapest, shittiest, longest, heaviest can they could on it.
>>27843482
well while were still on the subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbiKPBJVVVs&spfreload=10
>>27843538
Literally all of those were pure-T shit at actually reducing noise. Only one that was even noticeably quieter than the rest was the DTK "forest" with the FH extension. Notice of fucking big it is? And it's only -marginally- quieter than just the FH mounted to the muzzle.
Here's an American can (Liberty Mystic) on an SBR'd AK for comparison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9v4I5U2eXY
Note how the fucking TRIGGER RESET is nearly as loud as the shot.
>>27841489
Also rubber baffle in wide part. It doesn't matter though. PBS-2 had unsolved problem of unstable muzzle velocity and this suppressor and its 7U1 subsonic ammo were taken out of service.
Spooky.
>>27841326
Suppressors aren't illegal in bongland though.
>>27843107
>but 762 out of an AK was still loud as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDjt85IyWhY
>>27842189
>Implying there aren't hoards of slavaboos who will defend the cause
I'll admit that I am more sympathetic to Eastern Europe now than I was before I discovered /k/
>>27840745
>americücks need to spend over 500 after stamps for this
>>27843786
Name one country with better firearm law than the United States.
>>27841208
I actually dont know much about suppressors beyond the idea behind them. Dont more baffles translate to better noise reduction to a certain point?
>>27840692
Suppressing slavshit is like trying to silence the shrill screeching of your wife.
It's not really practical or effective, but it just feels right.
>>27841208
4 u
>>27843750
maybe he actually had subs?
>>27843798
Yemen.
>>27843416
not too bad
>>27843661
impressive
this has restored my faith that 7.62x39 and, from the vid above, 5.45x39 can be suppressed rather effectively as opposed to what
>>27842233
has said
>>27843661
That was pretty fucking quiet, I like it. How much do they run?
>>27841116
Polish law says: YOU'RE WRONG, FAG.
>>27843758
They are all down with Slav empowerment. We do events like million slav crouches, Walk a Mile in Tracksuits, and Coaching Bydlos into Gops. We also are starting a website called Kolbasr where we can come together and talk about our events and how to dismantle the Westernarchy. You know, the institutionalization of western power and abuse over Slavs.
>>27843798
Not a diff country, but Puerto Rico is basically operating with zero gun laws right now. They don't have to follow the NFA and in June this year a judge ruled the majority of their guns laws to be unconstitutional.
>>27842233
AKs are loud suppressor hosts, but you must have been in an indoor range to not hear the significant difference between a bare muzzle and suppressed .
>>27845669
negative. It was outdoor
>>27841116
Nice projecting considering that this is the case in the US where you actually need a tax stamp for silencer
>>27843482
>The biggest benefit is they're the world's greatest flash suppressor, and as a main combat arm quiet is both relative and not that important.
Listen to this guy.
At least in my country the armed forces don't even call them "sound suppressors", but rather "signature suppressors"
The reasoning behind this is that if you remove all the muzzle flash so that you are harder to spot while shooting, and as an added bonus get some sound suppression as well that is great news. (and also the recoil reduction of course)
I was shooting FA with an HK 416 equipped with an B&T suppressor last week without earpro. While I would not recommend doing this over a long period of time it shows that you get enough sound suppression that you may maintain verbal communication methods without screaming like a madman.
>>27843427
against, where is the sauce
>>27843869
maybe you're doing damage control
>>27840783
Oooh boy here come the self hating westerners. Please defect to Russia you communist fuck
>>27843798
Somali, Afganistan.
>>27841326
Suppressors are easier to get your hands on in France than in the US.
>>27847225
And UK (if I remember correctly)
And Sweden
And Norway
And Finland
MFW silencers are unregulated in Norway
I have a question regarding supressors that doesn't belong in its own thread. Now, take in consideration that I'm nogunz hailing from a country with poor gun culture, so I apologize if it sounds stupid. Anyway, how much use can supressors take? Do they have a durability cap like in the MGS series? Or will they last for thousands of rounds through it on end?
>>27847324
Old suppressor had disposable rubber wipes that would deteriorate quickly. Modern suppressors are all metal (stainless steel, inconel, titanium) and will last an extremely long time. Metals can slowly deteriorate but it takes thousands of rounds. But if you shoot full auto the heat could damage the suppressor.
>>27847324
Depends on the suppressor.
If they are made from steel/titan they can probably outlast your gun if you take good care of it.
If they are made of aluminium or something similiar (to obtain lighter weight) they will not last as long, and they will last even shorter if you do any rapid firing with them. (because of the heat)
22lr supressors can also last pretty long.
I remember one time I were shooting with a friend who had a semi-auto 22lr rifle with suppressor.
that suppressor had been in use both on the range and in the woods since the 70's and were still going strong. (a little less effective then the new one I had on my rifle, but still pretty good)
With that said I do not know if things are different with .338LM and similar caliber supressors.
>>27847352
honestly, if the suppresor was from the 70s, then design rather than wear might be an explanation for inferior suppression
suppressors have advanced a bit in the past several decades
>>27843798
Name one country you would want to live in with better gun laws. Fixed it for you anon you may now resume shitposting.
>Also suppressed slave shit makes my dogs diamonds if you know what I mean.
>>27847351
>>27847352
>>27847358
Thanks, anons.
Also, let's say I'm Brazilian and cops here don't give many fucks unless you're either poor, or black, or flaunt your power level around. How hard would it be to build and adapt a supressor to a pistol? Is it possible to fit one without treading the muzzle? I wanna shoot pic related without scaring the country home neighbors.
>>27840692
I don't believe there are any sexier guns than suppressed Russian ones.
>>27840736
This is probably old as hell but I laughed really hard as it is my first time seeing it.
>>27847358
Very good point, and that may actually be the case.
The supressor itself looked very solid, made of steel or something similar.
I find it really hard to imagine a 22lr rifle messing that up.
>>27841190
>not using carlos
>>27847371
Stick a wooden dowel in it and paint it black. That's what James Bond did.
>>27847371
Suppressors still make noise, anon. Especially with your Walther, suppressed blowback operated guns are a hell of a lot louder.
Also, capped at 50 rounds a month and you chose 32 ACP? I know everyone there uses it, but why'd you choose it over 380?
You could probably get a quick-detach suppressor and a permanent muzzle break, but it will be easier in every way to thread the barrel.
Again, blowback, but you should be able to find factory or third party threaded barrels for it.
>>27841116
Nope. Can't speak for the rest of Europe, but they're unregulated in the UK, in fact the government encourage their use to reduce noise pollution.
>>27847415
Didn't exactly choose it. It was my grandpa's and he left it for me. When I become of age I'll file in that trainwreck of a paperwork to get a Glock 25. Can't get anything .40 because I'm not a cop, .45 because I'm not military, and 9mm because I'm not a federal agent. Sure I could apply for a special license, but I wouldn't be able to carry said guns. Not with the current laws. Oh, I also have pic related, but I'm not much of a revolver guy.
>>27847415
>Suppressors still make noise, anon. Especially with your Walther, suppressed blowback operated guns are a hell of a lot louder.
It depends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv4WQb1hOp8
>>27847633
Stone fucking cold. What was the context?
>>27847633
>the chair fold itself
Russian engineering is strong
>>27847660
Gang of robbers hitting yet another store.
>>27840692
if i were to go through the paperwork and get approved for a supressor. What brand/type would i buy for my x39 AK?
>>27847828
Wrong, dumbass. The guy's a member of the Russian(?) mafia, hired to hit a rival organization member's family, iirc. The flowers are a calling card.
>>27847847
It was robbers gang nicknamed yellow chrysanthemum gang. True that flowers were their calling card to make people less suspicious with shooter actions (robbers have seen this in spy movies). This gang chose to leave no witness and always shoot managers of stores first during robberies. Also any other witnesses though they choose time and place accordingly and don't encounter many of them.
>>27847832
I'd personally go with a Silencerco.
The Omega offers the most sound suppression while also being one of the shortest (if you remove the muzzle brake on the front of the can), but is expensive.
The Specwar is only marginally louder while being half the price, but it's heavy and long. It would probably give the most accurate "feel" to a Russian suppressor.
All Silencerco rifle suppressors are available in the 14x1LH thread pattern that most AK's have.
>>27847832
None unless you check your bore concentricity.
>>27843798
Switzerland. Suppressors and full auto are a-okay with a permit. Hell you can even buy a rocket launcher if you do desire.
>>27842297
>>27842371
>>27842381
That's the sexiest Slav Pistol I've ever seen.
I usually hate Soviet shit but that is Sex. What kind of Mak or Mak Variant is that?
>>27849305
The Makarov PB pistol, based of the PM. Its integrally suppressed with an additional suppressor attachment.
what would happen if you fired an integrally suppressed weapon with the suppressor detached?
>>27841116
They are banned in Czechia and Slovakia for example, he is right.
>>27847172
>communist
implying Russia hasn't been imperialist since 1939
>>27849518
It would be louder.
>>27849518
Gun makes boom. Is noisy and bad for hearing.
>>27849518
Buttload of noise from ported barrel. Might not cycle if the gun is tuned to use the added pressure from the suppressor
>>27849518
It would be extremely painful
>>27850432
For a big guy like you
any oil filter pics/vids on AKs?
>>27853037
Yes. The one you just posted.
>>27848428
>Switzerland
>Can't keep ammo in your home has to be locked up at a gun club
>>27840692
MN here, new to the suppressor club. Lurking for interest for AK varmint hunting.
Anyone able to suggest some nice brakes or flash hiders for 7.62 14LH that are suppressor-friendly?
>>27849842
>It would be louder.
>>27854174
>>Can't keep ammo in your home has to be locked up at a gun club
Then why the fuck would they require every household to maintain a serviceable battle rifle?
>>27854203
he's chatting shit.
>>27847196
Ha! He got you there!
>>27854174
That's bullshit
>>27848428
>suppressors and full auto are a-okay
Bullshit, got a friend who lives over there. He says it's a lot harder to get a suppressor and a full auto- but it depends on your region. Even if you live in the most lax state in switzerland, you need a SPECIAL permit to own a suppressor, full auto, grenade launcher, etc. But you have to go through a shitload of loops. Now let's say you already have a special permit. The full autos cost A LOT. My friend said they are more expensive than the US. Now let's say you have enough money to afford one, you buy it, and you want to shoot it- OOPS YOU CAN'T SHOOT YOUR FULL AUTO/ASSAULT RIFLE WITHOUT PERMISSION LOL
On the demand, you have to mention where you go to fire, as well as the date and the hour. This authorization is valid for all full automatic weapons which you have, but only the day and the hour was mentioned on the authorization.
The violation of this rule (if you are taken) will cause dramatic consequences: all your firearms (all, not just full automatic) will be seized, without exception, and the ban on any future acquisition.
You ALSO have to pay for the authorization.
On top of that, you can't carry around weapons, whether it be concealed or open.
>he fell for the le swisserlen has better gun laws meme
:^)
>>27847371
Lol, I'm black and used to live in some pretty bad places and never got stopped by the police.
