What do you people think about these reciprocating charging handles on AR-15 platform?
>>27798920
why the fuck would anyone want to add a reciprocating changing handle to anything?
the less external moving parts the better
>>27798942
>muh forward assist
>>27798942
Try charging an ar15 while prone
it would also allow you to use cheek raisers
Well having one of these stainless steel handles mounted to the bolt carrier group actually serves as a pretty good forward assist
>>27798920
>platform
Is that the carrier's cam path? Doesn't seem like something that should be exposed. Otherwise the idea seems fine
There are also these
>>27798920
Instead of attaching to the actual bolt, why not have one that locks into the gas key like on a normal rifle, and rides the same track. Just add a cut on the side where the handle normally goes and bam.
Having it move every shot is fucking stupid
Are you talking about those drop in left hand non reciprocating charging handles?
Could I put a 7.62x39 bolt into a side charging carrier? When I get around to putting together a x39 upper, I'd do that. Seems appropriate.
>>27799084
While we are at it we can use a button on the right side of the receiver to poke the carrier with a stick to force it forward into battery
>>27799084
nevah been done b4
https://gibbzarms.com/?product=g4-side-charging-upper-receiver
>>27799174
Their upper looks a little goofy but the CH looks nice
>>27799184
Was struggling to find the words earlier, but >>27799174 was what I had in my minds eye
>>27799166
Good idea m8. But what should we call it? Forward pusher?
>>27799174
And actually, the only issue I see here is the CH not being long enough if you have fat optics. Might smack your hand trying to charge it
>Reciprocating charging handle
Shit
>non reciprocating side charge
Pretty dank
>>27799084
The charging handle doesn't pull on the gas key. The gas key rides inside the charging handle. The charging handle actually pulls on the small flat spot in front of the cam pin.
This is why charging handles break where the gas tube comes through.
>>27799241
>>27799254
I know what you're saying m9. Am just a bit tired
>>27799225
>But what should we call it?
Nudge packer.
>>27799261
I regularly leave my dust cover open as well
>my dirty dirty girl
But srs, I wish it were like my FAL with the cover, but whatever
Gibbz had the right idea, but they either need to make it round or folding and not fuck ugly
>>27799240
There's a lot more room there than you think
>>27799282
what optic and why is it suddenly a right hand charge
>>27799282
Awesome.
>>27799266
Bolt pusher?
>>27799292
It's a Elcan OS4x and because it's a left handed upper.
>>27799307
Gibbz makes lefties?
Also
>didn't get the DR
>>27798974
yes. seeing as how the AR style of rifles are made in both standard and proprietary configuration, in multiple calibers, and in both non-NFA and full auto capability
>>27799320
Yes, and can't afford a DR :^(
https://gibbzarms.com/?product=g4-left-handed-side-charging-upper-receiver
>>27799297
Ram rod
>>27799350
bolt bumper
>>27799356
Carrier advancement unit
>>27799365
bam jammer
>>27799350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgQF9xLvN1E
>>27799365
carrier conker
>>27798920
But I actually like the T-handle...
>>27799518
Go Front Helper
Tubey pushy button
>>27798920
The solution of a generational problem.
>>27798974
When you have a rifle that shares features in which can completely change its role or function than it has become a foundation to build on, therefore platform.
>>27799404
00:38
Why do so many of these guys look super autismal when handling guns?
Neat device though. Would use.
>>27798920
Kinda just seems like another peniless gunsmith is trying to find a niche in a flooded market.
Its not a BAD idea, I just dont see any reason why Its needed.
>>27798920
>What do you people think about these reciprocating charging handles on AR-15 platform?
Side charging AR uppers are completely retarded.
>>27798961
>Try charging an ar15 while prone
Or you could, you know, already have a round in the chamber or, in the event that you're swapping mags, you can press the bolt release.
>>27799320
And you have what optic that gives you the right to question other people's choices?
>>27799730
>Or you could, you know, already have a round in the chamber or, in the event that you're swapping mags, you can press the bolt release.
Maybe a round failed to fire, or failed to eject, or double fed. Plenty of things could require using the CH.
>>27799775
And yet for all of these things you should immediately seek cover rather than trying to fix the problem out in the open. Even then, your statement is making the assumption that anyone on this board or in the real world will be carrying a side charging upper into combat where these 'advantages' would be in effect, but in reality the most use these things will ever see is a range toy or for rifle drills, meaning if shit jams then you just take your time to fix it because being fast doesn't matter.
I own a couple AKs
Why would I want an AR that acts like an AK?
>>27799862
because T-handle sucks ass.
but non-reciprocating left side is objectively superior to everything else.
>>27799915
I can see some slight reload process benifits but nothing incredible enough to warrant buying a brand new upper.
Also I really cant justify spending more money on something that will save me .5 seconds in a fire-fight when I myself do not get into firefights anymore, and in 99.9999999% likleyhood never will never need my AR for anything but range shooting.
>not buying one to make a poorfag scar
>>27800252
>polymer lower
>side charge non reciprocating upper
>big polymer stock
>piston gas system
New build time soon...
>>27798920
just one more path for dirt entry
I wouldn't bother getting a side-charging upper until this comes out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXFYUZB-hc0
Sadly, Mark Serbu's perfectionism means there's a chance that the fucking KelTec RDB will be cheaper and more available than this upper.
>>27799794
B-b-b-but muh SHTF
>>27799074
Firing pin retaining pin recess
>>27798942
So u can suck cock and charge ur at at the some time while giving a reach around with the other hand
>>27799730
>Side charging AR uppers are completely retarded.
up yours, nigger
>And you have what optic that gives you the right to question other people's choices?
Man u salty
>you will never own a charging carry handle A1
why live
>>27801245
>go to Nodak Spud
>buy trigger charging handle upper
>assemble gun
Tada
>>27798961
That's not even fucking hard
>>27800793
Lrn2rd
>>27801273
you have to move your head
>>27801631
Which you would already be doing anytime you use the charging handle.
There is no reason to be on sight with an empty gun, and if you have a malfunction you need to look to see what that malfunction is before potentially compounding the issue by just running the charging handle again.
>>27801651
>side charge
>can literally keep your head aimed down the sights while doing it
>>27801674
In what legitimate situation would you be on sight already and still need to charge the weapon?
>>27801178
Is this a thing? ASA uppers with samson handguard?
>>27801697
A 2-3 gun match? Hunting?
>>27801728
>A 2-3 gun match?
Our local matches start with hot chambers safety on. I can't speak for yours.
>Hunting?
This is how you spook the sounder or your buck this season.
>>27799350
Farva pls go
>>27799688
That would be valid but there are half a dozen or so manufacturers offering side chargers for years. Not to mention when it comes to ARs, being different in any little way is an advantage because everyone wants to be a snowflake
>>27798961
Non reciprocating side charging ar upper exist and they dont complex take down.
>>27798920
You have to unscrew the handle and screw it back on with dab of locite every time you disassemble and reassemble your ar.
No thanks non reciprocating side charger or regular t handle is superior.
check out ASA upper F A M
>>27799082
>Install on A1 upper with a Forward Assist.
>20" Barrel.
>Wood furnishings.
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter...
>>27800430
Serbu is a Perfectionist? I though his company just make compact shotguns...
>>27799374
>>27801957
CAR RAM ROD
>>27801245
>Use carry handle.
>Former firearms instructor sprints out of his house just to find you and yell at you.
>>27799174
I don't know shit about building ARs, but I want to do one shortly. Is a side charging upper interchangable with a regular one, like swapping Lego parts? Because that just looks great.
>>27802999
He fired his entire staff because they didn't do things exactly his way, fucking up the production schedule for the SU-15.
He also has a reputation for taking forever to get anything to market, although I'm not sure how hard it is to get his stuff once it's out, mostly because he hasn't put out anything I'm interested in before the SU-15.
>>27803062
Depending on the upper, you might have to get a custom BCG, but aside from that, standard parts should fit.
>>27801178
>up yours, nigger
If retards hate me, then I guess I'm doing something right. Side charging uppers are shit and there's no way around it.
>Man u salty
No, I'm just calling you out on not having a single decent optic, which means you have no right to call out anyone on buying something as nice as a Elcan OSx4 over a DR.
>>27800588
Pretty much the only argument that side charging faggots have, and that shows their mentality and why nobody should even bother listening to their suggestions.
>>27803323
As opposed to the arguments for the regular m16/ar charging handle.
>>27803866
Yeah, fuck having the easy to use standard charging handle, right?
>>27803323
eh, non reciprocating side charging handles have little disadvantage. mostly that it removes ambi use. even then its mostly just a preference thing/
>>27803890
>it's easy to use
>its standard
So if a non reciprocating side charging handle was the original design it would meet your needs. It's like complaining about paddle mag releases because you're used to your glock, they both have function and neither is worse once you get used to one.
>>27803960
If a non-reciprocating side charging handle were the AR's original design, then yes it would probably be better off considering it was implemented by the designer as compared to a third party company.
Also, it's really not a similar thing because it's less like a different mag release in a factory produced weapon and more like a completely different upper receiver with non-standard parts and a stupid design that you're paying extra for. The only charging handle changes that should be made to an AR are extended charging handle such as the BCM Gunfighter and the AXTS raptor.
>>27798942
NIGGER ARE YOU STUPID?!
The fixed side charging handle makes for less moving parts not more. STUPID FUCKIN NIGGER DIDN'T KNOW WTF TO DO.
>>27804710
Not even him but,
>external
>external
>external
What is into reading comprehension.
Nigger are you stupid?
>>27804000
Things aren't always designed right the first time. If they were then we'd still be flying planes like the one built by the Wright Brothers.
>>27805091
You're right, the original trigger charging handle on the AR-15 was a major pile of shit so they revamped it into the current model of charging handle. The current design works best for the AR-15. As for your comparison? That's not even remotely similar because a side charging AR-15 is an AR-15 derivative, whereas people didn't modify the Wright Flyer, they built their own designs. Your implication is also that the current AR charging handle is "wrong", correct? What a joke.
>>27805119
Outstanding
>>27803134
And what exactly is "his" way.
>>27798920
I feel like these will disallow the use of dust covers and allow debris to get in.
>>27798920
retarded idea that only a retard would buy into.
>>27806082
that's exactly what I thought when I saw that.
>>27805207
>What a joke
