Osorio tank
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Tell me about the Osorio. It was an MBT prototype made in Brazil. The Saudis tested it out in competition with the Abrams, Challenger and Leclerc and it beat them all. Despite this the Saudis bought the Abrams and the Osorio never went into production.
Why? Political shenanigans?
Trials are generally skewed, ranging from reasonably accurate to total bullshit
Abrams was adopted by the Saudis because it proved itself in actual combat.
>>27793693
I'd say trials are more accurate than combat. The others may well have done just as well or better than the Abrams in the same situation. So much depends on crew training, logistics, the enemy. A competition is a level playing field.
>>27793632
>tested it out in competition with the Abrams, Challenger and Leclerc
>Leclerc
AMX-40 and certainly not the Leclerc.
The Osorio used a lot of foreign-designed components ; French sights, German powerpack, British running gear, definitely not so Brazilian.
>>27793746
>The Osorio used a lot of foreign-designed components ; French sights, German powerpack, British running gear, definitely not so Brazilian.
probably why it was so good.
>take best elements of other design
>use in your design
>???
>Profit
A modern example would be taking a Leo2, slapping on Bong armor, Burger FCS and other systems and choosing the appropriate power pack... result would be a world beater.
Im pretty sure thats roughly what the Koreans did with the K2
>>27793632
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>>27793756
>A modern example would be taking a Leo2, slapping on Bong armor, Burger FCS and other systems and choosing the appropriate power pack... result would be a world beater.
>implying than the British composite armor and the US fire control system are better than the Germans ones.
>>27793746
The Abrams uses British armor and a German gun.
>>27793840
>A modern example would be taking a Leo2, slapping on Bong armor, Burger FCS and other systems and choosing the appropriate power pack... result would be a world beater.
>implying than the British composite armor and the US fire control system are better than the Germans ones.
>>27793850
winner
>>27793827
>What if we....what if.....
>What if we give one of our designers some steroids and told him go backwards and then crawl forward.
>>27793632
Osorio did not had FLIR.
Abe had.
one single feature, still, wouldn't you make the same choice?
>>27793632
Is the main gun going to be a vuvuzela? It's the only weapons Brazilians are good at using
>>27793948
those would be South Africans
>>27793958
I didn't realise there was a difference
>>27793850
The first reason is that the composite armor developed by the US Ballistic Research Laboratory was to heavier for the required protection level during the early 1970s.
They have caught up in the late 1980s by using indigenously developed depleted uranium-based composite armor.
The second reason is that the US dropped the development of a very promising 120mm smooth bore gun (the Delta gun) in the mid-1960s in favor of the Shillelagh weapon system (XM150).
When they came back to a more conventional design, it was too late for the Watervliet Arsenal to develop rapidly a new high-caliber smoothbore gun.
There were rumours at the time that the West Germans worked on the basis of the Delta gun (Delta gun development cancelled in 1964 and Rh-120 started in 1965).
>>27793840
>not taking a Jew tank with trophy
>slapping on a 120 mm L55 Kraut gun and engine
>Bong Armour
>Worst Korea Suspension unit
>Slav Explosive Reaction Armour shitbricks
>Burger FCS, network suite, misc. systems and autoloader
>crewed by burgers
>>27793897
>"I'M A STUPID CAPITALIST PIG WHO THINKS THINGS ARE COPIES BECAUSE THEY LOOK SIMILAR."
COUNT THE ROAD WHEELS PIGDOG! POKPUNG HO IS PURE KOREAN ADAPTATION AND IMPROVEMRNT OF EXISTING TANKS AND WILL CRUSH PUNY K2!!!!!
>>27793918
>Osorio did not had FLIR.
Bitch please, look behind the loader's hatch.
>>27793918
BS Osorio did have thermals made in the Netherlands from phillips. Osorio's sights and FCS was superior to all others because all the sights (also the thermal) were dual-stabilised in both axis.
>>27793980
It'd be the ugliest and most effective tank ever made. Like a giant brown box covered in smaller boxes.
>>27793972
there are several, one of them is the continents they are located.
>>27793980
>>Worst Korea Suspension unit
The K2 uses Model 3870 from L-3 Communications.
>>27793993
>>27793996
Phillips isn't FLIR.
bitch, go back making TV sets.
but yeah, it had thermals too, but then again we fall under the combat tested hardware. honestly I don't know enough to say if Osorio thermals were lacking or even above the ones muricans had.
>>27794045
>Phillips isn't FLIR.
Can you even read ?
"Stabilized thermal observation and aiming system"
>>27794042
>Model 3870
Not the suspension themselves but the suspension system.
I'm guessing the K2 Suspension system that can individually control each bogie track, is slightly more advance then the Japanese one, I could be wrong.
>>27794072
you are aware FLIR is a brand, not a category of sensor?
Osorio's FCS lay-out was adopted by the british for the Vickers Mk7.
> Leopard hull and engine
> 120mm smoothbore cannon firing one-piece munition with better munition compartimentalization
> Stabilized thermal sight
But instead the British went for the absolute shyte of a tank the challenger 2
>>27793918
>Osorio did not had FLIR.
>Abe had.
>>27794099
>you are aware FLIR is a brand, not a category of sensor?
The M1 Abrams used the the Hughes AN/VSG-X thermal imager.
>>27794045
The M1A1 themal imager is inferior than the M60A3TTS....
The philips is a 2nd gen. thermal
>>27794143
>Hughes AN/VSG-X
Flir is a brand.
damn, it used Hughes instead, that is a surprise.
>>27794156
is kind hard to find info like that, I will take your word on it.
>>27793850
>The Abrams uses British armor
It hasn't used British armor whose development was funded by the US since the early 80's.
>and a German gun.
Half true, a modified version of the Rhm. 120mm which is not interchangible. This is the primary reason the L/55 was not adopted as it would require extensive modifications.
>>27793984
P-please stop.
>>27794099
FLIR is also an initialization of "Forward Looking Infrared", so it is indeed a category of sensor in addition to being a company.
>>27794143
>Hughes AN/VSG-X thermal imager
that is on a Flir product catalog.
what are you trying to do here? http://www.flir.com/legacy/view/?id=51540
>>27794211
...please stop I don't even know what we are doing anymore.
>>27794205
HAHAHAHAHA NO ARGUMENT! ENJOY AMERICAN IMPERIALISM!!!!!!
>>27794378
>nork_dmz_space_marine.jpg
>>27794224
Hughes and Texas Instruments developed thermal imagers for ground vehicles in the late 1970s.
