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I kinda like this Macuahuitl. It's basically a wooden club with obsidian blades.
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This is my favorite
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>>27786373
Or maybe this
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>>27786389
Or even this
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most aesthetic dagger ever???
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>>27786315
Isn't that pretty much a piece of shit though? Like it only gives you a few good swings because all the blades snap off?
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>>27786315
Kind of reminds me of those Polynesian war clubs. I kind of wish they can make these. They would make great wall hangers.
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>>27786498
You don't need to worry about that when you're raiding to capture prisoners to sacrifice.
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>>27786315
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Macuahuitl's scare the fuck out of me, I don't know why.

Much more intimidating than a regular sword
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>>27786498
Obsidian is a very fragile material. Sharp but it breaks easily. I think they can be replaced after use (assuming they would make a bunch of obsidian blades). and just like>>27786519
mentioned, the Aztecs had a different type of warfare where their main objective is to capture prisoners for sacrifice.
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These are pretty cool too.
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>>27786535
Just saying they were kinda a shitty combat culture. Not to diminish on their spirit or anything but it's just interesting to see how they developed so poorly versus across the pond, same timeframe where people had proper steel, plate and mail armor, weapons that could be used against and again for prolonged warfare.
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>>27786609
Oxford University predates the Aztec Empire
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>>27786609
True. They never made use of iron (let alone bronze) for their weapons. It's also important to consider that the Aztecs had no competition in power as opposed to the Europeans that had to constantly innovate to keep up with enemy advances. For the Aztecs, these shitty weapons were good enough considering they used them to keep the smaller nations in check and didn't really engage in massive battles where these weapons would certainly break. It's one of the many reasons why the Aztecs were so easily defeated.
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>>27786642
Wow, had no idea, white man stronk.

>>27786656
Ah, that makes sense. Adversity breeds long term strength after all.
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>>27786315
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>>27786571
These will fuck a nigga up.
Maori weapon, right?
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>>27786669
well white man also dirty

disease killed more native american and south american cultures than any of the fighting ever did
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>>27786965
White man was like a reverse war of the worlds.

We earned our disease resistance through the plague.
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>>27786945
Hawaiian
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>>27786984
>Disease resistance
>One specific pathogen
Yeah, you don't science much, do you?
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>>27786498
They can be replaced easily, IIRC aztecs would carry around obsidian blades when the ones on their Macuahuitl shattered. It also made the weapon so dangerous to unarmored targets, all those obsidian shards would slice you up good.
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>>27786498
WE GON ROCK IT TILL THE WHEELS FALL OFF HOL UP ALL YOU NIGGAS WHO BE THINKIN WE SOFT HOL UP GET READY FOR THE NEXT EPISODE HEY HEY HEY HEY SMOKE WEED ERRDAY
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>>27786609
They ran shit in their neck of the woods, no reason to develop better means of combat when you can fuck up everyone else with what you got.
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>>27786609
By other standards they were pretty advanced, Tenochtitlan was comparable in size to the biggest European cities.
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>>27787148
Ooooh. You're original.
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>>27786389
I bet that stick is banned in California because of the pistol grip
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>>27786528

kek
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>>27787158
and it had plumbing too. Biggest thing the aztecs noticed about the spaniards? They stank
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>>27787321

Yes that emptied out into the lake it was built upon.

Very sanitary having all that crud floating around your city.
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>>27787355
that was actually one of the reason they farmed in that same lake, all their shit made good fertilizer
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>>27787148
>>27786400
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-human-fist-punching-evolution-males--20151021-story.html

It could be coincidental but this is interesting.
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>>27786315
You should watch deadland. The entire movie is a primitive weapons porn, and the fight are bretty good too.
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>>27786656
actually the aztecs fought off the spanish fairly well. the reason why the aztecs were defeated is actually because of disease that wiped out 2/3 of the population.

the spanish were wearing armor and laid siege on a city that was built on a lake, the aztecs threw them off and the spanish soldiers easily died. the aztecs also were extremely competent and fierce warriors, basically the vikings of mesoamerica. source: majored in cultural anthropology, specializing in mesoamerican studies.
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>>27788870
*threw them off land-briges into the water, is what i meant to say
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>>27788870
>source: i have no source
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>>27788870
Of course a Mesoamerican class is gonna talk up their achievements. And an anthropology class at that. That's gonna be heavily biased
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>>27788870
>actually the aztecs fought off the spanish fairly well
>disease wiped out 2/3 of the population
actually it sounds like they died like bitches
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>>27786535
>(assuming they would make a bunch of obsidian blades)

They mass-produced that shit. Like, there's a few production methods for the blades that have been reconstructed and it turns out that a single semi-skilled worker with simple tools can churn out several hundred of them in a day.
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>>27786656
The didn't make use of metal because south america is lacking in metal deposits that are easily accessible with the tools the south american civilisations had access to.

Pretty much every divergence they took compared to european civilisation is the result of adapting to the geography, climate and avaiability of natural resources in the area.
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>>27786480
pic related was the royal dagger of the Topkapi sultan. The gems in the handle (the large green parts) are pure emerald. admittedly the blade is obviously made of metal.

still impressive.
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>>27786480
You can't use knives as weapons! Some faggot on the Internet said so!
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>>27786498
Then you have a big ass club to bash motherfucker's heads in.
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>>27787020
WITNESSED
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>>27786571
>>27786913
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>>27787020
These all look like they would instantly break apart the moment you hit someone with them.
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>>27791791
>>27787128
>>27791606
Hey, here's an idea: Try reading the fucking thread.
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>>27791791
Many of them are ceremonial.

>>27792123
Here's a hint: Fuck Off.
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>>27792173
Answer: It's big, thick, and in your mother...
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>>27787180
is... is that a banana made of wood?
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>>27788899
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>>27790134
Stop being insecure white bread that can't deal with historical facts.
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>>27786480
Holy fuck that's beautiful.
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>>27788870
They didn't lack in capability, but in tactics they were used to flower wars as opposed to the kind of combat the Spaniards were used to
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>>27787020
Kahulua steel, swam over 10,000 miles
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>>27792441
The Ass Texs were clearly inferior. They essentially bullied their neigbors to high hell until the Spanish arrived and managed to support the smaller tribes to overthrow the Ass Texs. They planted the seeds of their own destructions. They were idiots.
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>>27792808
To be fair you're essentially saying that they failed because they didn't predict that a much more (martially) advanced society was just about to float on over and fuck all of their shit.

Also side question for those who know history a tad better than I: Wasn't there some kind of vast world ending plague that hit the Americas before the Europeans ever even got off of their boats?
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>>27788870
>source: majored in cultural anthropology
fucking kek. were art history and gender studies full? gobbling down jew dick and vomiting back up propaganda is not a source.
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>>27793218
I'm pretty sure the world-ending plague was from the Europeans. And the diseases spread both ways, but the Euros lucked out and only got stuff like Malaria or Syphilis, while the Americans got hit with influenza and shit.
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>>27794690
Is there a chance that smallpox arrived before the Europeans via asia from where alaska almost connects to Asia?
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>>27788405
It's bunk. Hands are fragil as fuck. Wrists are even more fragile.
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>>27794743

no it came with domestic animals like pigs and goats which the engines did not have

thats why they were so raped by it, yuros had been getting and living with smallpox for 10,000 years, it was not normally fatal for the, it was like a bad case of chicken pox or herpes

but the Indians had never built up any immunity at all and were nearly wiped off the face of the earth by it
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>>27786315
its not basically a wooden club with obsidian blades , it IS a wooden club with obsidian blades.
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