>LAND400 calls for replacement of ASLAV and M113 in the Australian army
What new Armored Reconnaissance vehicle should be acquired?
What new IFV should be acquired?
Patria AMV
Can swim, best armor in wheeled category and has a huge range of mounting options
Yeah if the ADF has enough money for it, that one should be the go. However, they are considering an upgrade kit for the aslav.
>>27780413
>upgrade kit for aslav
they already have that RPG chicken wire shit
But it was acquired in the late 80s, its aging
>>27780401
>patria
>amv
>27t
thats not how your armored reconnaissance or fast deployment, aslavs were rekt in the harsh terrain of East Timor what would an even heavier 8X8 by like off road?
>>27780396
Panhard CRAB.
Because sex
>>27780435
I want that. How can I buy one?
>>27780435
>4x4
>offroad
nevermind trying to use it anywhere else in S.E. Asia
Anyway we have the Hawkei and Bushmaster for car sex
DEFTECH AV8
>>27780447
>DEFTECH AV8
>lego camo
>28t
>>27780447
ATGW variant with a LCT-30 turret with a bank of two Denel Dynamics Ingwe ATGM on each side
>>27780455
AV8 Driver's station.
>>27780455
30mm Turret version.
Multiple-level suspension and central tire control.
>>27780447
>>27780455
>>27780463
>>27780470
You shilled this Mongolian trash can last time there was this thread. It still doesn't tick the boxes for the requirements.
>>27780447
Fuck off kim, we're not buying your knockoff shit
>>27780396
>ASLAV
>>27780435
>tfw you will never operate in anarchy happening full government and state shut down rural America with one of those
I just found my dream bug out car
Hey guys, was just allowed to tour an aslav the other day. They can't even change the pressure of the tyres remotely, one has to plug a hose into the port on the outside and manually pump the tyres.. Oh and it had been commissioned in 1994 and is a currently serving vehicle.
>>27780502
its one of the 3 or 4 contenders
but the APC version is 25 tons
With a turret and autocannon you're adding another 2 or 3 tons
Also it is 2.99 meters wide
We have C-130 for tactical lift. Bay is 3.02 meters wide. Thats a tight fit.
Doesn't matter to Germany they're adopting the A400 Atlas which has a bigger bay but we have the newest model C-130 only about ten years old.
>>27780504
good luck when the roads break down
>>27780515
Can you post images of the other contenders? Nothing really beats German engineering but I'm curious.
>>27780504
What, like Detroit?
>>27780515
heres a list for the ASLAV replacement:
>BAE Systems/Patria: AMV35
>Rheinmetall/Northrop Grumman: Boxer with LANCE turret
>General Dynamics/Thales: LAV III upgrade
Anyone know of others?
>>27780515
>Doesn't matter to Germany they're adopting the A400 Atlas which has a bigger bay but we have the newest model C-130 only about ten years old.
If only we were the Marines. Then we could replace every other piece of equipment in order fit in a neat new gadget that doesn't even work
>>27780521
With the weight of the Panther and Boxer basic logistical military lift will beat you
>>27780544
If they dont go stryker crazy then the LAV III at 16 tons would do the job
But this upgrade might be the new one the Canadians want thats going to be 28t
>>27780548
>Dat feel when Australia does not have it's own Marines
Feels bad man.
>>27780562
2nd battalion will become a dedicated amphibious force
Part of the entire point of reconnaissance is that your enemy shouldn't know you are watching them. Driving around in a huge noisy vehicle kind of defeats that purpose.
Reconnaissance is one of the few times when infantry is sometimes the best option. The other times should use satellites/aircraft.
>>27780577
and a 30 tonnes distributed between 8 wheels is going to get rekt off road
>>27780573
What a lovely decorative ramp
>>27780602
>and a 30 tonnes distributed between 8 wheels is going to get rekt off road
hybrid role vehicles need to die
either make a fucking tank or don't
>>27780396
What about a modernized version of the Tatrapan?
>>27780609
good for any UAV
and the NH90 helicopters are pretty big they might need a rolling take off fully loaded
I think our LHDs and Japans 'helicopter destroyers' are built to handle F-35Bs so they can embark Marines for joint operations
>>27780618
>7.62mm protection
>>27780618
we already have the Bushmaster for motorized infantry
>>27780621
So yes, decorative.
>>27780621
>helicopters
You've got to be joking. That's not how rolling helicopter take-offs or translational lift works.
>>27780621
I'm pretty sure that's why we ordered so many F35Bs, because we don't need to modify any of our carriers to support them.
>>27780483
>>27780481
Yeah...So mature..Like a kindergarten kids.
>>27780649
Please stop, you're making us look bad. Even if you're being ironic.
>>27780618
dem shutter shades
>>27780573
>its landing craft cant carry Abrams
lolwut
>>27780691
they'll have to use the mexeflote motor rafts of the bay class landing ship :\
>>27780725
>British engineering
>>27780766
To be fair, its a RFA ship, so civillian standards if I remember correctly.
>>27780447
how did they manage to actually make a vehicle LOOK like its asian?
>>27780396
>extenda clips
>>27780848
What fuck u say racis monkey
>>27780680
[ ] impressed
[X] not impressed
>>27780504
>roads break down
>fuel is just a no go
>people will look at your car like a giant signal for "fuck me up"
You'll die in the first week, or lose the vehicle in the first days. But you will have fun.
>>27780766
Brits have LCU Mk.10 to put a tank ashore though, from the Bay-class ships or Albion-class
Mexeflotes are just a cheap way of transporting shit to shore and creating temporary docks once the landings are secure.
Aussies need a proper LCU
>>27780396
Armored recon?
Fucking Fennec, its not even a question.
I am an that arrogant South African asshole who thinks South Africa is the be all and end all of wheeled vehicle design, and even I must bow down before such a glorious design
Now... if you want ARMED armored recon, that is then a good question.
>>27780401
Based Badger
>>27780455
thanks for the money
Pity you were too pleb to buy the optics package, or the Chaka battle management system, or the Impi BLUEFOR trackers - all of which the turret was designed to house
>>27780602
>>27780614
i would hardly say so
Only really innabog that it becomes a problem
>>27781970
woops
>pic unrelated
Where are the TRACKED vehicles?
Buying WHEELED vehicle simply because they drive faster on roads or are more fuel efficient, on roads?
>>27780577
Formation reconnaissance is the role of recce vehicles. In many countries doctrine that actually requires speed, good communications and the ability to put up a fight. You find the enemy, keep as much distance as you can from anything bigger and kill anything that isnt. Send constant reports back to hq and call in air/arty on everything.
The UK has been one of the few countries who kept the idea of formation recce as a stealthy mission but they seem to have changed there minds recently with ajax. Though I guess Jackal is still around for very light stealth recce.
>>27783686
Idiot
>>27783686
Yeah land 400 is also looking at infantry fighting vehicles to replace the m113
>>27781970
Struth mate 4 wheels fucked off road
>>27781482
Bay class could only carry 1 lcu mk10
>>27786824
Not at all
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>2015
>land vehicles
get with the times.
>>27780396
Jaguar EBRC
>>27787135
You're a dumbshit
>>27787135
They're in the process of acquiring NH90s to replace their Blackhawks and Seahawks
Confirmed bidders are:
Patria/BAE Systems Australia with the AMV
Rheinmetall Australia with the Boxer
ST Kinetics/Elbit Systems Australia with the Terrex
GDLS/Thales Australia with an unknown offering, most likely LAV 6.0 (Canada) or Piranha V (Switzerland)
>>27780481
>>27780483
>>27780848
It's a Turkish PARS from FNSS licensed by Malaysia actually and not a contender besides the above four.
>>27789237
This ones looks futuristic as fuck. Let's go with that.
Promo video for the AMV 35.
AMV + the turret from the CV9035.
>>27789389
Whoops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEQcXcAHS8E
>>27789237
Based on PARS. But, it was a rebuilt to suit the Malaysian need.
>>27789424
You do know AFVs these days are modular.
And are to fit to how the customer wants it.
Finland's AMVs aren't going to be like Poland's which aren't going to be like South Africa's etc. But they're still AMVs regardless.
>>27789237
ah so I got them all except terrex
Piranha V is a monster
I've been reading that the LAV 6.0 will be around 28t
Why all LAV so heavy now?!
